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RimWorld => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mikhail Reign on April 14, 2016, 03:49:44 AM

Poll
Question: How do you see your pawns?
Option 1: Survivors votes: 56
Option 2: Colonists votes: 118
Title: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Mikhail Reign on April 14, 2016, 03:49:44 AM
EDIT: POLL RESULTS DISCUSSION: https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=19296.0

If everyone that voted would like to head over to this post for a discussion of the results (quick recap at this point -21/04- roughly 70% colonist 30% survivor) that would be great.


Everyone that has voted I thank you very much. I would also like to thank the many people that voted without posting - over 100 people. This is another reason that I love this game - the community. Just think - I asked broadly, on the internet, for people to do something which was very easy to NOT do, and the VAST majority complied. This isn't calling out the few people that posted - honestly I should have made a discussion post as well.

Please continue to vote/bump for as long as you feel it is relevant.

First off - lets try and not have any post. Just vote. If you vote, maybe just post a '.' or something to keep the topic up top as long as its relevant. This is so that an unbiased opinion of how everyone views the game. I feel that this is a key part of the test - so please keep posting to a '.' or something similar if you vote (for bumps) - :D cheers people

This is a long time erk of mine.

Half of the game descriptions describe the pawns as colonist, implying a colony
Colony synonyms:   territory, possession, holding, dependency, province, dominion, protectorate, satellite (state), settlement, outpost. All words with somewhat permanent implications.

The other half of the game describes them as survivors - they are survivors of a crash. I dont really know what kind of settlement survivors would build so I cant quote a description or anything. Some of the parallel are, most obviously, the inital crash landing, as well as a lot of the in game flavor.

I have not real problem with it either way, but obviously being one or the other structures the game - survivors would be less interested in crafting lasting alliances, while colonists would. Survivors would be more likely to devote time and resources to build a ship to enable them to leave the planet, while colonists would use those resources to better their current location.

Anyway, how does everyone see the pawns in this game?

EDITED: I felt the description of survivors felt a little biased, which I'm not. As I said, I feel the game could do either way. Added a little more to it.

EDITED: This has gotten a good amount of votes, so I feel it is a relevant topic. Since I feel that mod post (cheers by the way) might prevent spontaneous bumps, I have bumped it for a second run. Will keep this to very minimum.

EDITED: The last bump got another 10+ votes, so I feel that it is worthy of bumping again. As soon as there is a noticeable lack of votes I will stop bumping the thread. I'm trying to keep it to a minimum and allowing it to fall to the 4th or so page before bumping it again. This seems to take about 2 days.
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists?
Post by: milon on April 14, 2016, 11:46:07 AM
Per Mikhail Reign's request, all other posts have been removed.  Please do not reply to this topic, other than to "bump" it to keep it visible.  (Yes, I am making an exception to our usual rules.)  The point of this thread is simply to vote, and to see the results.  Mikhail wants the voting to be a "pure" as possible, without any prior discussion swaying opinions.  You may discuss this issue in a separate thread if you wish, but please do not post your thoughts here.  I would lock the thread, but it may disable the voting and it would definitely cause the thread get lost.
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists?
Post by: Mikhail Reign on April 15, 2016, 08:00:16 AM
bump
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Mikhail Reign on April 17, 2016, 09:03:49 AM
Bump
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Mossy piglet on April 17, 2016, 01:04:45 PM
A
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Shurp on April 17, 2016, 04:53:32 PM
burp
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Mossy piglet on April 17, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
Get up there
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Nictis on April 20, 2016, 06:00:42 AM
Beep Boop Son
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Shabazza on April 20, 2016, 12:50:51 PM
Colonists that try to survive long enough to get away and become true survivors in a new colony on a safe planet.  ;D
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: keylocke on April 20, 2016, 01:57:31 PM
"safety" is a relative term. it's subjective. if something is not safe, then make it safe. the "wild west" is a good example. it was not safe, yet people still colonized it.  :P

nothing is really "safe". the peace that most nations enjoy are due to the military forces that protects them from invaders. the safety from crime is mostly due to the efforts of the police force. military and police did not materialize from nothing. these institutions were built by society to create this illusion of "safety".
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Mathenaut on April 20, 2016, 02:06:22 PM
I'm not sure if I see the conflict here.
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Boston on April 20, 2016, 02:24:53 PM
Quote from: keylocke on April 20, 2016, 01:57:31 PM
"safety" is a relative term. it's subjective. if something is not safe, then make it safe. the "wild west" is a good example. it was not safe, yet people still colonized it.  :P

nothing is really "safe". the peace that most nations enjoy are due to the military forces that protects them from invaders. the safety from crime is mostly due to the efforts of the police force. military and police did not materialize from nothing. these institutions were built by society to create this illusion of "safety".

What is funny is that the "Wild Wild West" .... wasn't actually all that wild. Settlers actually tended to cooperate and trade with the natives (and vice versa), up until after the Civil War. After the Civil War community-and-state militias were replaced by the Federal Army, and the Gov. had to justify spending all that money. So, they "flexed the muscle", so to speak.

http://www.independent.org/publications/tir/article.asp?a=803
http://www.perc.org/articles/old-west-violence-mostly-myth
http://www.unpopulartruth.com/2009/04/myths-of-old-west.html
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: rmurdocci on April 20, 2016, 02:45:48 PM
^bump
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Post by: Headshotkill on April 20, 2016, 04:15:02 PM
Opinons man, can't supress mah visions... (even though my post was deleted ;( )

*oh and this serves as a bumb*
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Malachi_Draven on April 23, 2016, 02:14:47 PM
Haven't you ever seen The 100? Everybody crash lands back on Earth, thus being survivors. Then they go about trying to build a settlement called Arkadia, complete with farms, prison, and hospital. Then they (badly) attempt to build relations with the various other factions like the Grounders and the Mountain Men.

They're both survivors and colonists. And it's literally the exact same scenario in RimWorld. Basically, The 100 is like if somebody simply made a TV show about their playthrough of RimWorld. Hell, there's even diabolical AIs now.
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Mikhail Reign on August 09, 2016, 08:32:07 AM
I just feel that this is kinda relevant again now that it's been released on Steam...
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Post by: Naeem on August 09, 2016, 11:33:05 AM
Bumb
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Post by: Juan el Demgrafo on August 10, 2016, 09:45:08 PM
Bump
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Post by: Kagemusha12 on August 11, 2016, 03:45:47 AM
Bump, so it gets above the korean spam
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Mikhail Reign on August 11, 2016, 03:53:19 AM
I wouldn't stress. A mod will wipe it all in a day. But cheers anyway man.
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Mikhail Reign on January 22, 2017, 03:18:23 AM
Bump - re:new updates that add world exploration.
Title: Re: Survivors or Colonists? - Vote
Post by: Thyme on January 22, 2017, 02:28:00 PM
haha, necrobump!