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Title: ate without table?
Post by: zandadoum on December 17, 2016, 05:28:19 PM
Heya,

so I have a colonist who CONSTANTLY has the "ate without table" debuff...

but... he is the frigging COOK!!!! he barely ever leaves the kitchen and the dining table (which everyone else uses) is right there! his work schedule is the same than the rest of people, his bedroom is even closer than other people... and I don't get why he just can't at the table like the rest of people?
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: Canute on December 17, 2016, 05:34:38 PM
1. which version ?
2. did you watch the pawn when he want/need to eat. What happen at the table ?
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: SF4iQue on December 17, 2016, 07:26:15 PM
Yeah like the exact same problem
http://steamcommunity.com/app/294100/discussions/0/1843493219428738769/
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: Ashiver on December 18, 2016, 08:32:40 AM
It could be he is working so much that he works until he is starved to the point that the game makes him eat his meal standing.  It could also be that you just don't have enough chairs.  It is an annoying debuff, I always wind up building either an extremely long dining room or several to make sure there are always tables and chairs, pawns will often eat standing otherwise.
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: Spdskatr on December 18, 2016, 05:21:03 PM
No, a colonist's 'find table to eat' radius is around 15 from when they decide to eat, and colonists often take a meal into their inventory, so these two combined makes it really annoying for colonists to eat at tables unless you provide multiple dining rooms, especially if the kitchen is far away from the dining room. If only there was a mod...

Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: Canute on December 19, 2016, 05:01:05 AM
Yeah these Survivial meals should have a buildin table&stool for outdoor use ! :-)
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: Sirportalez on December 19, 2016, 05:52:37 AM
Survival meals eaten without a table shouldn't create a debuff.

@op: I bet you haven't enough chairs.
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: lilymortis on December 19, 2016, 11:58:24 AM
I was getting the same debuff with my prisoner, who would stand next to the table and eat. The stool was directly between the wall and table. I moved the stool around the table and now he's using it. I've moved the table in the kitchen away from the wall also, so there is at least one square between the chairs and the wall.
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: milon on December 19, 2016, 02:40:16 PM
Regarding tables & chairs:
- the chair must be adjacent to the table
- the chair must be facing the table (diagonals don't count)
- the table square must not be claimed by another colonist already:


oooo
o####o
o####o
oooo

o = chair
# = table

If 2 colonists try to use the north-west corner of the above table, one will "eat off the ground".  This next table is much better:

oooo
####
####
oooo
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: Grishnerf on December 19, 2016, 02:46:17 PM
i think the most common issue for pawns eating not at a table is the food Need and no time for colonists to "idle" around to fill that.
the answer is to give them 1-2 more free/joy hours around the day so they can eat before they get under the critical Food need mark. sometimes only 1 freehour between work schedules is not enough for everyone to get to the table/Food.
also if the table it is too far away they will eat what is nearest.
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: milon on December 19, 2016, 02:48:54 PM
Yeah, being "out in the field" with no tables nearby often causes them to eat without a table too.  I like the freetime idea, and I've already been enforcing 1-2hrs/day to keep mood up, but that's another reason to enforce joy time.
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: Hieronymous Alloy on December 19, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
I've seen this on colonists who were actively sitting and eating at a (small) table. Either the duration of the debuff is oddly long or it doesn't reset until the eating task is complete or small tables don't coibt or something.
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: milon on December 19, 2016, 04:08:36 PM
It must be a duration thing. Small tables do count, as long as the colonist can actually sit on a chair facing the table and the matching table cell isn't already in use.
Title: Re: ate without table?
Post by: GiantSpaceHamster on December 19, 2016, 08:42:44 PM
Quote from: Sirportalez on December 19, 2016, 05:52:37 AM
Survival meals eaten without a table shouldn't create a debuff.

@op: I bet you haven't enough chairs.

I agree, with this caveat: The survival meal itself should provide a debuff (don't they already?)