Well it looks like our favorite mod creator who is famous for his mod load order mod, colonist bar mod, and finally his most popular (though it may just be my opinion) Prepare Carefully mod is leaving the mod creation game :'( :'( so I thought to make this topic so people could show him how much he will be missed I know I will miss being able to customize my colony to survive those harsh winters Truly EDB thank you from the bottom of my gamer heart and i hope you enjoy life ;D 8) ;D
for me the game is almost unplayable without prepare carefully. modders, get on it and make a new version!
Quote from: quxzcover on July 16, 2016, 01:12:28 AM
for me the game is almost unplayable without prepare carefully. modders, get on it and make a new version!
I was about to say the same thing. I can't play without Prepare Carefully anymore. Having that single "randomize" button just feels like an insult at this point...
Why not add the Prepare Carefully customizing functionality to vanilla like the colonist bar? It only makes sense. I guess I won't play Rimwold until that happens or some other modder picks up development on this. :(
So long, and thanks for all the fish, EDB. The game wouldn't be what it is today without you.
Quote from: Playbahnosh on July 16, 2016, 02:38:26 AM
Why not add the Prepare Carefully customizing functionality to vanilla like the colonist bar? It only makes sense. I guess I won't play Rimwold until that happens or some other modder picks up development on this. :(
i felt the same way with a13. i didnt even touch it until prepare carefully was updatd. but now that edb has retired, i may have to leave the game for awhile in hopes for that when i come back, a version of prepare carefully will be created.
What? And here i was just about to get back to the game. No way that's happening without Prepare Carefully, the last time i started the game with three random colonists was many, many alphas ago.
Huge thanks to EdB for the mods!
Quote from: warden on July 16, 2016, 02:47:54 AM
What? And here i was just about to get back to the game. No way that's happening without Prepare Carefully, the last time i started the game with three random colonists was many, many alphas ago.
Huge thanks to EdB for the mods!
You get some control over your starting colonists, and all pawns that spawn on the map, with the new Scenario Creation system. Its a bit different of an approach than EdB had done, but similar effect. It doesn't let you specify everything about the starting pawns, but you can force them all to have particular traits.
As for EdB leaving ... I thought they were just retiring the particular mods now that they've more or less been integrated into vanilla? Are they going to stop making mods entirely? That would be a shame, they clearly have talent, but I know some very talented creators in a variety of media who go through phases of losing their muse. :/
Quote from: Chibiabos on July 16, 2016, 02:53:15 AM*words*
Scenarios is more about editing the game's conditions and rules, Prepare Carefully is about customizing your colonists, that's two different things. Sure, you can set some traits or ban some actions or whatever in scenarios, but it's either all colonists or none of them, you can't set individual traits, skills, appearance, colors, clothes, gear, etc. That's what's PC is all about and I always play with a starting story and characters in mind, I have a lot of saved profiles for different starts with different crews. The scenario system would've been a great ADDITION to that, but without Prepare Carefully, it's just feels like playing with a bunch of lemmings. Bland and pointless.
monuments will be made. =(
I agree with everyone. I'm not going to stop playing A14 or Rimworld but it will NEVER be the same without EDB. However I understand that people lose interest and move on. If he really wants to stop I won't get the least bit up or anything at him. He has already changed Rimworld and the Devs and all of us should be forever thankful. But could we maybe hire him to continue to make Prepare Carefully? If he won't do it for free because of interest maybe some greenbacks can help! Actually I don't think that's the solution I just said it more for a joke. But seriously I understand why Vanilla Rimworld may not ever have the full functions of Prepare Carefully implemented. Another modded needs to pick up this mod or maybe Tynan can implement these features strictly as a Dev Mode "Must be on" to use them? Like if Dev Mode is enabled then during the character screen it has all or most of the Prepare Carefully options?
Only issue is I don't even want to wait for A15 for a Vanilla Prepare Carefully I need it now! lol Well I will say my final thanks to EDB and all modders really.
Thanks EdB for all your hard work, its much appreciated and i wish you luck and success in your future endeavors. This PC was always the second mod i installed. The first was EdB mod order.
WOW, man idk if will be able to play the game without EDBPC MOD, Like others have said... This is the end of an :'(
I appreciate all of the kind words.
I am still going to be stepping away from RimWorld modding, but I've been feeling bad about what must have seemed liked an abrupt decision for Prepare Carefully. I've spent some time today open-sourcing the code for the mod to better prepare it for others to take it over or to create their own mods based on it.
In addition, I completed an initial Alpha 14 version. It should be considered a beta and definitely has some bugs, but it seems to mostly work. More information can be found here:
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6261.msg234876#msg234876
I'm not entirely sure what's next regarding a final Alpha 14 version, but I feel like the mod is at least now better-positioned to live on in one form or another.
I agree with some of the above.. without Prepare Carefully mod.. the game is nearly unplayable for me. I just prefer making my own custom starting colonists and their looks. If that means I will have to play earlier versions.. then so be it.
Though to be honest I am sure some mod author will take over and create something similar.. it's too popular a mod to lose.
Thank you for all your hard work, and for open sourcing the mod, EdB. You will be missed!
Ok...
From what Ive seen, Prepare Carefully was a pretty cool mod and all.
But to say "this game is unplayable with out it" is straight up bull donkey.
Honor the mod maker, but don't do so at the expense of the game dev.
Tynan has made a perfectly playable and fun game even mod-less.
It's not 'unplayable' from a technical aspect.. just that the mod really enhances gameplay for many. The game is perfectly playable either way.
I personally could never like the prepare carefully mod. It felt like cheating to have my first three colonists just so happen to be three skilled survivalists each specializing in a different but necessary aspect of colony construction. "Gee, its a good thing we got a herbalist, a commissar, and an engineer all between the ages of 20 and 30 with no injuries on hand to build this colony! What are the odds of that?"
That said, sad to see such an integral part of the rimworld community retire.
Quote from: erdrik on July 16, 2016, 09:41:55 PM
From what Ive seen, Prepare Carefully was a pretty cool mod and all.
But to say "this game is unplayable with out it" is straight up bull donkey.
Honor the mod maker, but don't do so at the expense of the game dev.
Tynan has made a perfectly playable and fun game even mod-less.
I agree. Mods can easily become a disheartening addiction. And frankly, most games play well without them.
My Skyrim, and Cities Skylines used to be a bug ridden mess of endless chaotic mod lists, until I wiped everything keeping only a select few including the HD texture packs. Needless to say I never looked back I'm a lot happier for it.
i also agree that edb's prep carefully mod was my most fave mod. i've played with it for almost every alpha.
i think the only real reason why it didn't get fully integrated into rimworld, with tynan opting to use the scenario system instead, was because there are some game backers who already payed for creating their custom characters, which might seem unfair to them, coz using edb's prep carefully mod practically allows players to do something similar for free.
at least that's my guess.
You made the game a much better experience for me.
Now your work ended up in the vanilla version, what a success full mod! :D
Whatever you end up doing next, I hope you have fun!
Thanks for everything EdB!
Cya
My goodness! An I the only person who didn't use Prepare Carefully?
Quote from: Sponge on July 19, 2016, 03:00:40 PM
My goodness! An I the only person who didn't use Prepare Carefully?
Apparently just me and you :)
Although I did use and love Interface/Colonist bar and the Mod Order mods.
Prepare Carefully, while not vital for me, was extremely useful, if only for the 'save preset' function, so I could scout maps without having to spend another hour hitting randomize each time there's a single tile of marsh in the middle of my perfect base, or all the geothermals are on the edges of the map.
Was a great mod, and I hope that the option is picked up one way or the other so we can still min-max as we like.
And thanks for all the work you've done EDB!
Quote from: EdB on July 16, 2016, 09:11:20 PM
I appreciate all of the kind words.
I am still going to be stepping away from RimWorld modding, but I've been feeling bad about what must have seemed liked an abrupt decision for Prepare Carefully. I've spent some time today open-sourcing the code for the mod to better prepare it for others to take it over or to create their own mods based on it.
In addition, I completed an initial Alpha 14 version. It should be considered a beta and definitely has some bugs, but it seems to mostly work. More information can be found here:
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6261.msg234876#msg234876
I'm not entirely sure what's next regarding a final Alpha 14 version, but I feel like the mod is at least now better-positioned to live on in one form or another.
Thanks for opening the mod for others to take it over and admittingly I'm sad to see you leaving the modding field but fully understand from past modding experience with another game. Prepare Carefully is also my most anticipated mod because I love starting with the same pawns. <3
The new scenarios are really fun, I started with the rich something, the one that you start with a lone colonist with a pulse rifle and lots of money.
I gave the colonist my name, and I am using him as my main character, I already lost an arm, and lost the bionic replacement army during the install surgery the almost killed me!
If he dies I will probabily start a new colony.
But Prepare Carefully was very useful because I wanted a colonist that looked likes me, and there is no option to do it in game! I would also start a new tribe game with my pawn named as my family and with family bounds with them!