Energy Turret
Unfortunately I haven't been keeping up with this mod, despite wanting to work on it, I haven't had the time. So I have given permission to a couple of people to integrate this mod into theirs if they so wish. If anybody else wishes to include my energy turret as-is, or with some balance changes, feel free to do so. Just mention that my name in the credits somewhere. :)
- This mod by Kilroy232 (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3075) has included my energy turret among the many new, and pretty awesome sounding, turrets he has added. You can find it here: Turret Package (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=2349.0)
- This mod by Vas (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2872) also includes my energy turret, along with several other awesome turrets. You can find it here: Vas's Mods (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=2537)
Description:This adds 4 new research topics that lead to allowing you to build a vastly better turret. Research all 4 new research topics to unlock the Energy Turret.
Each research project is unlocked by researching the prerequisite, starting with one simply named Energy Turrets
Mod Team:
- ItchyFlea (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=959)
Download:
Download from ludeon forums: | (http://i.imgur.com/KwibIVn.png) (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2159.0;attach=956) |
Screens:How to install:- Unzip the contents and place them in your RimWorld/Mods folder.
- Activate the mod in the mod menu in the game.
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Ah this mod is insane, and makes sense. thanks.
A mod that adds more research topics? I wouldn't even care if this was horribly unbalanced and buggy, this is awesome and needed.
Any pictures?
I tried it out and loved. Two of these were able to hold off 20+ raiders in a hallway trap, so they may be a little OP.
They are a little OP, but really well done. You might want to change the energy rounds from matt blue dots to ones with a proper texture, but otherwise everything looks really good. Maybe you could make an in-between turret like a HMG, and a laser one.
So the Energy Turrets will only be available after the fourth research? Hmm, what about maybe after the first one, but then further research makes it better, such as strength, rate of fire or range.
Technically the research topics do nothing to the turret. I've added them mainly as justification for why it's the way it is.
In the future I suspect Tynan will open up the possibility of being able to have research affect new content, but in the mean time, it seems the benefits of research (faster mining, etc) are hardcoded.
Will the Energy Turret replace the normal Turrets, or will it be available side-by-side? Either way, you could code multiple turrets, each with their own strength/speed/range definitions, and make them available as the research for it is done.
Hah, I see you decreased the explosive range on these, too. 8)
Personally, I feel an energy turret like this should explode much more violently than a traditional turret, but I've got my mod running to decrease the blast radius of turrets even further than this turret decreases it, so these numbers work fine for me.
PS: I'm in favor of StorymasterQ's suggestion, above. Security tab is looking a little empty at the moment... don't think anyone would mind a bit of mod-spam cluttering it up until proper research integration is available/understood.
This mod keeps the improvised turret in the game.
I will make a few more turrets in a few days. At the moment I'm finishing up my Wood Economy mod, of which I have just uploaded the first test release. (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=2162.0) :)
I do Enjoy these turrets; i set up a defence line, with the embrasures and armoury mod; then used the dev console to see how many enemies it would take to kill me... and well; this says it all:
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Thanks for posting your release, please update your downloads links. You can find our mirror here:
(http://www.modsaholic.com/forums/site_pics/downloadbut.png) (http://www.modsaholic.com/forums/index.php/files/file/514-energy-turret/)
What do you mean by 'please update your downloads links'?
lol sorry mate, I meant put our download link on your release page too :P
I like the turrets themselves, but they are extremely powerful. Building one single turret will end the game in immediate victory because no raider wave will ever kill you ever again. I placed just 2 of these at the front gates then spawned 5 packs of 1000 point raiders with dev mode. None of them ever made it. That's like 50+ dead bodies all over the place, some even tried to hide behind trees and rocks, that didn't save them. It was carnage to the maximum. It does need balancing before I can make a video involving it. xP I was about to make a youtube video with the mods I had collected and balanced and was going to link everything once done. I can give it a little more time though, if you want to take a look at a bit of balancing? Perhaps it's just because I was already 120 days into the game when I started this turret and it's research. I'll try a new file real fast and see how it goes and report back but I am still pretty sure it's overpowered. Maybe slow down it's rate of fire or something. xP
I also have tried 5 1000 point raider spawns against a defence base of my design with a large number of the energy turrets and it did need several of the lava pumps power supplies and two nuclear power plants, BUT the only ones that got away retreated when the leading bunch of the raider group died, and it even was shooting down two layer stone walls to get the raiders
Make the turrets consume energy when they fire, much like advanced artilery in Total anihilation. That's the balance.
Quote from: Darker on March 05, 2014, 02:39:14 PM
Make the turrets consume energy when they fire, much like advanced artilery in Total anihilation. That's the balance.
I don't think this should be too difficult using a DLL Flea. You got this down?
At the moment I don't know how to make .dll files. (Rather, I don't know how to code in C#)
This will probably change by the time Alpha 3 comes around. Although at this stage I'm going to stop working on this mod, as the amount of free time I have might be lowered drastically by the end of this week, and I'd like to use the remaining spare time to focus on my Wood Economy mod.
Of course if that isn't the case, I'll eventually get around to balancing this some more.
Quote from: ItchyFlea on March 05, 2014, 03:40:47 PM
At the moment I don't know how to make .dll files. (Rather, I don't know how to code in C#)
This will probably change by the time Alpha 3 comes around. Although at this stage I'm going to stop working on this mod, as the amount of free time I have might be lowered drastically by the end of this week, and I'd like to use the remaining spare time to focus on my Wood Economy mod.
Of course if that isn't the case, I'll eventually get around to balancing this some more.
If I find a good balance to the turret in this, I'll send you the files and let you check it out. I was going to mod my version some till I found something I liked. The research topics before Energy Turrets, what do they do, nothing right now?
They don't actually do anything. They are there as my way of justifying why this turret is OP.
Yeah, as far as I've seen for myself and heard other modders say, research definitions are implemented in xml, but research effects are not. IE, you can define research topics, and structures can define those topics as prerequisites for their construction, but the effects (such as turret cooling letting you fire 4 shots instead of 3) are still hard-coded.
Can't wait to see that change, though. My mod would make a lot more sense as an upgrade than as an override...
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=236029102 - Hah. :P All thanks to 3 turrets.
(previous poster's image, for users too lazy to click on links)
(http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/3316078793944692175/54C1376A8D965C947A5C91866983ABFE4F81C678/1024x536.resizedimage)
I am discontinuing this mod due to a lack of time. Thank-you everybody who used this turret and gave advice for improving it.
If you wish to use this turret in your own mod, feel free to do so. Also feel free to change/balance the turret as you see fit. All I ask is that you mention my name somewhere in the credits. :)
Again, thank you all for using this mod.
If you wish to see where my time is being spent, it's on this mod: Wood Economy (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=2162.0)