Permanently silence those mofo's while still allowing them to chew food.
*flips you off*
*makes stroking motions towards his own groin while grinning at you*
*Glares at you*
*smirks mockingly when you trip and fall*
These are why this would not work, you ever met someone who was a mute? they can be assholes too.
Also, with A13, abrasive does not automatically mean 'insults everyone'.
In my previous colony, my abrasive colonist had +50, 60 rep with everyone, while my non-abrasive, not greedy, no-negative trait colonist had -10, 20 rep with everyone, got into fights, and insulted the abrasive colonist more than the abrasive colonist insulted them. The abrasive colonist was the one that tolerated her the most. Possibly because she was her mom.
They may not insult everyone but might want to read this....
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=18735.0
They can kill an entire group of people with words.
That seems more like bad RNG than abrasive.
There just happened to be an argument between colonists who where very skilled with melee, which happened to result in death, and the dead colonists just happened to be bonded with a animal which went crazy when it's master died.
instead of operations or straight up arresting them, what about various punishments like tongue removal but also ration restrictions, temporary imprisonment, forced hauling/cleaning instead of joy activities.
Lobotomies?
I also feel like the options for dealing with troubling colonists are somewhat limited, especially when it comes to fights, there's just not much you can do to try and make sure that colonists don't kill each other or rip out each other's eyes or whatever.
You pretty much have the options to let them duke it out and maim each other, arrest the people and have them be in prison for just one little fight, or have someone else move in to assist one party or another.
One cool function might be the ability to restrain colonists until they calm down so they can't hurt others, same could be used for when they go crazy and start going after everyone.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of brawls and drunken fights, but when they try and rip out the other guy's eyes it can be a bit ridiculous, and kind of unrealistic. Maybe fights could be quicker, a couple of hits and the guy's down. And rather than scarring eyes and shattering ribs, maybe there could be specific brawling injuries that are more temporary, like black eyes, fat lips, dislocated bones, things like that that could be treated or mended fairly easily, but still serve to show that it got violent or whatever and those colonists have to recover before reaching peak efficiency again.
I think it should be implemented that if there are colonists around that are friendly with both parties involved, they will try to break up fights or mediate arguments.
That way you only have these kinds of ridiculous dysfunctions when there is actual factionalization within the colony's relationships, i.e. when you get two groups of friends but not very many friends in between.
In fact maybe I should make a thread for that, I think it would really benefit the game.
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Quote from: something776 on April 13, 2016, 11:36:41 AM
Maybe fights could be quicker, a couple of hits and the guy's down. And rather than scarring eyes and shattering ribs, maybe there could be specific brawling injuries that are more temporary, like black eyes, fat lips, dislocated bones, things like that that could be treated or mended fairly easily, but still serve to show that it got violent or whatever and those colonists have to recover before reaching peak efficiency again.
I love this idea and it's way more realistic for the majority of unarmed brawls. In real life the average unarmed brawl between two people rarely results in death or such crippling injuries like scarred eyes, multiple shattered ribs, torn off fingers/nose, etc. Unless every colonist with 5+ points in melee is some kind of hard core MMA competitor deadly/permanently crippling injuries from unarmed combat really shouldn't be at frequent.
I agree, fights should often hault on much less pain / damage than a death match, also, We absolutely need a way to restrain / break them up, the fact i cannot arrest either one to even try to break it up is a giant problem for me. And since no weapons do less than fists, there's literally nothing i can do that won't make it worse. This upsets me more than anything, is im helpless when it happens, 2 pawns in danger, and not useful at all, and i can only watch and hope that nobody dies or gets an eye crushed.
Quote from: mumblemumble on April 14, 2016, 02:11:25 AM
We absolutely need a way to restrain / break them up, the fact i cannot arrest either one to even try to break it up is a giant problem for me.
Actually you
can arrest one/both of the colonists. Draft a colonist not involved in the melee, then right click on one of the two that are brawling and choose "arrest" it should allow you to split them up and throw one of them in the brig. 8)
Really? For whatever reason i tried that, it didn't work. Guess I'll try again.
People can resist arrests, so you might need a couple tries.
Here's a thought: build a room with no doors around the abrasive person. Walk away.
Problem solved. No more fights.
If you wanted to kill them, or even just get rid of them, there are easier solutions.
does no one put them on the night shift? or confine them in their own zone somewhere
I haven't had the misfortune of having abrasive colonists yet so I haven't had to deal with them yet. I don't usually try and recruit people who have bad traits.