I need to question why many these even exist and more so question the scale of negative as compared to other negative mood effects.
Ate off the ground -4
Observed corpse -4
... Why are these things equal, better yet why is eating off the ground even on the mood effects chart? They both stack too and have the same duration. In fact seeing a many dead bodies has a half stacking multiplier.
Wearing tattered apparel -5
Wearing frayed apparel -3
Naked -3
Explain this. This makes me think these negatives were made in a total vacuum. The clothing quality thing is newer then the naked thing.
A little bit crowded -5
Imprisoned -5
Are you kidding me? Nothing about these things is equal.
Mood effects need a major overhaul. I think quite a few have no place in the game in it's current state and others have overblown effect. Many don't make any logical sense. I also think ones like deaths shouldn't have stacking effects, like if you sister is a part of the colony and dies why are you getting both My brother/sister died and Witnessed ally's death.
The entire Mood system needs re balancing/re working. Please do this before Steam launch.
Edit:
Here's the chart for people interested.
http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Thoughts
Does no one have anything to say on the matter, not even on the glaring examples I presented?
So everyone that's read this so far is perfectly fine with the current numbers and doesn't think an overhaul is needed.
Basically yes. Mood system actually reasonably well done and I do not see mach need in changing it. Your examples are no good. They do not effect game balance and just show that you are very yang.
For example imprisoned -5. What wrong with it? Instead of trying to survive outside and struggle for life you got feed, protected..
Been imprisoned itself does not effect people that mach, we all have some freedom denied in one form or an other. On other hand if I have sit in cold cell naked with out food that really will piss me off. That mood system does, try not to feed your prisoners..
Penalty for dress? well really are you that mach upset about them when you try to survive? Unless i go to fancy dinner i do not care what I am wearing. Number assigned to each factor does not matter that mach, on other hand if my parka so bad it does not keep me warm i will get really unhappy seems I am bloody cold and i know what to blame.. Ob in addition, i believe - from that depends on number of no good clothes capped at -5.
Probably you're not getting any responses because people are just used to it. Of the many things that need fixing this doesn't get much attention.
Or maybe you just have it posted in the wrong forum. Try "Suggestions".
I suspect that the Mood system is more geared towards making interesting and eventful games rather than going for any kind of psychological realism.
That said, the upcoming Alpha is reportedly full of tweaks and rebalancing, so perhaps you will see some changes to Mood too.
Personally I've never let this bother me too much - too busy enjoying the game.
Only mood effect I have problems with is related to relationships; more specifically "disfigured". Now that I can't understand (for reasons mentioned many times elsewhere).
I created a complete list of mood debuffs in RimWorld by order of severity for people's reading pleasure;
Hungover (Slight) -2
In Darkness -3
Naked -3
Wearing Frayed Apparel -3
Uncomfortable -3
Witnessed Stranger's Death -3
Disturbed Sleep -4
Butchered Humanoid -4
Ate Off the Ground -4
Observed Corpse -4
Hungover (Strong) -5
Cold -5
Hot -5
Pain (Little) -5
Sick -5
A little bit crowded -5
Imprisoned -5
Wearing tattered apparel -5
Joy-deprived -5
Ugly Environment -5
Cramped Environment -5
Feeling Bad -5
Slept Outside -5
Slept on Ground -5
Someone's Organ Harvested -5
My Cousin Died -6
My Grandparent Died -6
My Kin Died -6
Cabin Fever (Mild) -7
Physic Drone (Low) -7
Very Cold -8
Wounded -8
Sharing bedroom -8
Hungry -8
Tired -8
Ate Nutrient Paste -8
A Prisoner Was Sold -8
Someone Was Executed -8
My Half-Sibling Died -8
Hungover (Pounding) -10
Freezing -10
Very Hot -10
Pain (Moderate) -10
Very Joy-Deprived -10
Very Ugly Environment -10
Very Cramped Environment -10
Feeling Terrible -10
My Father/Mother Died -10
My Nephew/Niece Died -10
My Uncle/Aunt Died -10
Colonists Left Unburied -10
Witnessed Ally's Death -10
Very Tired -12
Ate Raw Food -12
My Grandchild Died -13
Extremely Hot -15
Pain (Acute) -15
Cabin Fever (Serious) -15
Urgently Hungry -15
Hideous Environment -15
Physic Drone (Medium) -15
My Brother/Sister Died -15
Bonded Animal Died -15
Cooked Cannibalism -15
Was Imprisoned -15
Burning Up -20
Pain (Shock) -20
Very Crowded -20
Totally Joy-Deprived -20
My Husband/Wife Died -20
My Friend Died -20
Raw Cannibalism -20
Starving -25
Exhausted -25
Psychic Drone (High) -25
My Son/Daughter Died -25
My Fiance/Fiancee Died -25
My Lover Died -25
My Organ Harvested -30
Psychic Drone (Extreme) -50
Frankly, I read the subject and went "meh". As others have said, we're used to it, it's not that big of a deal, and this isn't the suggestions board.
Having said that, yeah, they do seem to be weighed strangely. I wonder how much it would affect the game if this was all rebalanced a bit. If it's not in the new alpha, it would be easy enough to mod.
Did you know "Ate a lavish meal" stacks with "Ate a fine meal" ? Eating lavish + fine is better than eating just lavish.
Quote from: Mutineer on June 23, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
Basically yes. Mood system actually reasonably well done and I do not see mach need in changing it. Your examples are no good. They do not effect game balance and just show that you are very yang.
For example imprisoned -5. What wrong with it? Instead of trying to survive outside and struggle for life you got feed, protected..
Been imprisoned itself does not effect people that mach, we all have some freedom denied in one form or an other. On other hand if I have sit in cold cell naked with out food that really will piss me off. That mood system does, try not to feed your prisoners..
Penalty for dress? well really are you that mach upset about them when you try to survive? Unless i go to fancy dinner i do not care what I am wearing. Number assigned to each factor does not matter that mach, on other hand if my parka so bad it does not keep me warm i will get really unhappy seems I am bloody cold and i know what to blame.. Ob in addition, i believe - from that depends on number of no good clothes capped at -5.
I'm bothered by the scale of one relative to the other. As given in my examples why is being naked equal or preferred to any degree of damaged clothing? You just seem to be taking each one in a vacuum and saying -5 in okay. It's okay relative to what exactly? Maybe reply to my entire post and not just the topic.
Edit your post I have no clue what "just show that you are very yang." means.
No degree of ripped up clothing is worse then being naked for a normal person. Either naked mood effect is under balanced or messed up clothing mood effect is over balanced.
No trip in a crowded elevator is equal to being imprisoned. And don't talk about claustrophobic people because that would be a trait.
As for all the other posts in here think about it. Steam players will bring these issues up because they aren't just used to them. The mood system has grown in every patch yet we've seen no overhaul or reworking of it. The only time Mood system was altered at all was when the fear system was removed. Steam players are going to bring this up.
Leaving in place a messed up mood system because "people are used to it" is the worse reason I've ever heard not to fix something.
Quote from: milon on June 24, 2016, 04:24:29 PM
Frankly, I read the subject and went "meh". As others have said, we're used to it, it's not that big of a deal, and this isn't the suggestions board.
Having said that, yeah, they do seem to be weighed strangely. I wonder how much it would affect the game if this was all rebalanced a bit. If it's not in the new alpha, it would be easy enough to mod.
I'm not suggesting something concrete or fleshed out, I can point out issues but not what solutions would be in terms of number. It felt like it'd be out of place on the suggestion forum. I always feel like things shouldn't be there if they aren't asking for something new or if they don't directly impact balance in a meaningful way. Maybe that's just a personal hangup.
<ThoughtDef>
<defName>Naked</defName>
<workerClass>ThoughtWorker_PsychologicallyNude</workerClass>
<nullifyingTraits>
<li>Nudist</li>
</nullifyingTraits>
<stages>
<li>
<label>naked</label>
<description>I'm naked. This is humiliating.</description>
<baseMoodEffect>-6</baseMoodEffect>
</li>
</stages>
</ThoughtDef>
It's -6.
This was reported a year ago, on A11 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=14113.msg147476#msg147476), and Tynan said it was fixed then so it was changed in A12 at the latest. The wiki hasn't been updated with that change.
As for the mood system in general, I think ChimpX is right that (from what Tynan says about A14) it's likely the numbers will be somewhat different, which means this kind of complaint should wait until after A14 when we can see what's changed. It's too late for the overhaul you suggest to be in A14 by now anyway; it would be in A15.
If I were to tweak one thing, it would be the "Ate Nutrient Paste" debuff. I mean how the hell is eating Nutrient Paste as bad as losing a sibling? I know from personal experience what it's like to have to force something down that tastes of the halitosis of the god of death, and it's not that bad.
I would make it a 4. That way it's still not good, but it's not as bad as getting food poisoning (As apposed to an 8, which is almost twice as bad as food poisoning).
Come to think of it, I've never even built a nutrient paste dispenser because it's expensive, absolutely massive and gives you a massive debuff.
First comment is, just looking at the mood offset doesn't give the whole picture. Thoughts last different amounts of time as well, which you should factor it.
Also:
Quote from: ChimpX on June 24, 2016, 09:01:09 AM
I suspect that the Mood system is more geared towards making interesting and eventful games rather than going for any kind of psychological realism.
Bingo.
Quote from: Tynan on June 24, 2016, 07:14:43 PM
First comment is, just looking at the mood offset doesn't give the whole picture. Thoughts last different amounts of time as well, which you should factor it.
Also:
Quote from: ChimpX on June 24, 2016, 09:01:09 AM
I suspect that the Mood system is more geared towards making interesting and eventful games rather than going for any kind of psychological realism.
Bingo.
I respect the hell outta you and never imagined you'd even read anything here, but I gotta push back on this.
People going crazy and having countless ways to snap doesn't make the game more interesting, I feel like colonists are all angry 16 year old girls that didn't get the gift they wanted for her sweet 16. Events make the game interesting, I've never once in the earlier builds felt that there weren't enough ways for people to snap via mood negatives or that the lack of those made the game less eventful/interesting.
Events make the game interesting, mood effects feel like a tacked on extra to add false drama. I don't mean all mood effects clearly, but many.
Relationships between colonists like/dislike/love/hate, these make the game more interesting because they are more real to me and not just someone flipping out because they ate without a table. The mood effects system in general however makes me feel like I'm fighting with game mechanics.
Survival of a colony on a distant Rimworld constantly under threat of pirate/animal/tribal and mechaniod attack, trying to survive and maybe even grow and thrive. But this room is too dirty/ugly and I woke up in a bad mood so time to flip out. How does that fit the game, why does reality not matter?
/rant
I guess I should just give up on it, I feel like it's gone in a crazy direction since I bought it. I don't think I'll be posting anymore.
I read things here all the time :)
Anyway, I'm trying to boil down your comments to understand what you actually want and I'm having a hard time. All I said was that the mood system isn't really about realism, but gameplay. But you don't really seem to disagree with that. Or do you?
Is it "realism" you want? What, specifically, would "realistic" look like? Would it mean that living in a filthy dark cave, eating off the floor, has no psychological impact? Do you want "ate without table" to be cut, or just reduced in effect? You want the mood system cut entirely? Or just made easier? What difficulty do you play on anyway?
It's obvious you've had some frustrating experience with the game as it stands, and are attributing that to the mood/mental breaks system. I just can't tell the change you're actually suggesting, or what specifically is the problem to be solved.
Quote from: Tynan on June 29, 2016, 10:10:00 PM
I read things here all the time :)
Anyway, I'm trying to boil down your comments to understand what you actually want and I'm having a hard time. All I said was that the mood system isn't really about realism, but gameplay. But you don't really seem to disagree with that. Or do you?
Is it "realism" you want? What, specifically, would "realistic" look like? Would it mean that living in a filthy dark cave, eating off the floor, has no psychological impact? Do you want "ate without table" to be cut, or just reduced in effect? You want the mood system cut entirely? Or just made easier? What difficulty do you play on anyway?
It's obvious you've had some frustrating experience with the game as it stands, and are attributing that to the mood/mental breaks system. I just can't tell the change you're actually suggesting, or what specifically is the problem to be solved.
Sorry, I muddied that up a lot.
Basically I really enjoy gritty and brutal elements of the game, I by no means want it easier but rather I'd like that hard time to be focused around the real intense events rather then what I'd describe as silly stuff. If your friend died in a battle right next to you do you care that you slept on the ground in the dark or even that you are hungry?
Examples of Major mood effects as I see them, things that would effect your emotional state deeply
- losing friend/ally
- losing a loved one
- people injured and close to death
- losing a bonded pet
These sort of events feel like they should be the lions share of breaking stress points. That stuff should break people, I love it that way. I feel like you should be preparing for these events as best you can.
The issue I have is the way mood is currently being applied feels almost oppressive on a steady basis because of the quantity of minor mood effect and their relative power. Sleeping on the floor in a dark cave and eating paste off the floor sucks no argument here lol, it might make you bad tempered/depressed and act like a total ass. These events shouldn't break people however. What bothers me is that seemingly minor and major mood effects stack. This again is not to suggest only lowering the minor stuff, but also raising the major events that effect mood.
This is just off the top of my head. Having a terrible day to day life should effect how hard/fast you work, the quality/quantity. Also the kind of conversations they have with other colonist. Maybe that'd also start more fights. Does mood effect the conversations? Maybe mood and mental breaks shouldn't be a single system, if mood impacted other things I mean.
Boiled down I think the minor effect should be much smaller and the major stuff should be tests of character.
- A bad day shouldn't make you get Dazed or go Berserk.
- A good day shouldn't allow you to shrug off Family/Friends and Allies dying.
Thanks for the reply, I'm glad I came back to check the thread. I hope this post made more sense, these issues have slowly driven me away from playing the game. I bought it in 2014 in around june'ish, played it like crazy back then so this has been building in my mind for some time.
It sort of sounds like you're just asking for all the smaller mood effects to be cut. (You've basically said they shouldn't have any effect, which leads to them being cut).
Would that be a fair summary?
Anyway, the obvious trouble with that is that it makes large segments of the game irrelevant. There's just no reason to make decent rooms or food or any of the normal trappings of a happy home, if the only things with actual psychological consequences are deaths and other extreme events.
So I really can't cut all the small mood effects, nor do I want to make them inconsequential and throw away a big part of the gameplay.
I suppose I could see some sort of complex way of combining thoughts, were big mood hits "shadow" small mood effects away and prevent them from applying. But that sounds both very complex and really, not realistic. I'm pretty sure a person is more likely to break down after their friend's death if they also have to sleep in a cold dirt cell eating nutrient paste, than if they have a luxurious warm bed and fine meals.
I guess I'm just not seeing a viable path to address your concern. I'm open to clarification though.
Quote from: Locklave on June 22, 2016, 01:57:46 PM
Ate off the ground -4
I'll admit, that one does bug me a bit. Only a slight bit though.
Colonists self inflict it on themselves, and there's no way of preventing it, unless you build furniture across the entire map. I do, some times, feel like yelling "have you never heard of a picnic?"
I get why its in there, to force new colonies to have a table, otherwise you know full well the majority of players wouldn't bother.
Maybe it can be done like the "Need something comfortable" thought? Where you get a negative mood for only having stools, but if you build some cloth chairs that negative thought goes away?
Quote from: Tynan on June 30, 2016, 01:56:20 AM
It sort of sounds like you're just asking for all the smaller mood effects to be cut. (You've basically said they shouldn't have any effect, which leads to them being cut).
Would that be a fair summary?
Anyway, the obvious trouble with that is that it makes large segments of the game irrelevant. There's just no reason to make decent rooms or food or any of the normal trappings of a happy home, if the only things with actual psychological consequences are deaths and other extreme events.
So I really can't cut all the small mood effects, nor do I want to make them inconsequential and throw away a big part of the gameplay.
I suppose I could see some sort of complex way of combining thoughts, were big mood hits "shadow" small mood effects away and prevent them from applying. But that sounds both very complex and really, not realistic. I'm pretty sure a person is more likely to break down after their friend's death if they also have to sleep in a cold dirt cell eating nutrient paste, than if they have a luxurious warm bed and fine meals.
I guess I'm just not seeing a viable path to address your concern. I'm open to clarification though.
I don't want any of minor mood effects completely removed or made meaningless because they are realism elements. It's the system they are attached to. There is the productivity thing I suggested, a number of the mood effects could be moved into a new category that directly impacted how fast your people worked and the quality of said work. Because a number of them were added to create a reason for higher quality rooms/beds/knickknacks. Those could effect pawn productivity.
The whole a happy worker is a hard worker thing. Those minor mood effects would certainly matter if they effected productivity both positive and negative. By no means am I suggesting all minor mood effects be added to this, clearly some would be impacting your emotional state.
Someone with high ranks in crafting would be as important to have as someone with high ranks in social.
Emotional state
- Sleeping on the floor
- Sleeping in the cold
- Starving
- All things related to basic needs of a person
- Some traits
- All the death/injury and sickness stuff
Effects productivity
- Ate in impressive dining room
- Own impressive bedroom
- Did joy activity in impressive rec room
- Basically everything related to object value/quality
- Being hungry on any level but starving (not sure on this one)
- Food quality
- Ugly/dirty places
- Ate with no table
- Some traits
I get that I'm being a pain in the ass now, I just basically asked you to make a new system in the game. :-\
Assuming this idea is in any way workable it would make the whole psychological break thing less of a day to day issue being that there'd be less negatives/positives in total potentially effecting it and keeping all the features like room/item quality/value relevant.
Again thanks for the reply.
Hi! First time posting. I love this game. For real. Probably the best game I've played in a long time. I thought I would way in on this as I find mood is a major factor of the game.
I like the posters idea of having some mood effects affecting productivity instead of leading to a poor or terrible mood. I think though any of the current mood effects could lead to a dazed colonist, but maybe of differing lengths or severity. I don't think that for everything a colonist should strip naked and wander the wilderness. On that note, why are their stripped items forbidden? Ive lost some good gear because I couldn't see where they dropped it and my haulers didn't pick it back up because it was forbidden.
Another related idea, I think berserk colonist should be toned down. A couple ways I had in mind are making only some mood effects lead to berserk e.g. family, friends, or pets dying. Or at least some types of colonist should be impervious to berserk and likewise some should almost always go berserk when in a terrible mood e.g. sanguine, optimist, strong willed, etc. shouldn't go berserk ever. Volatile, nervous, depressive, etc should berserk a lot.
Maybe I don't care that much. I do like the productivity suggestion though.
Great work Tynan! Thank you for an awesome game and your continued progress on improvement.
What I understood from OP point of view is that not all the thought debuffs/buffs should count for the mental break threshold. Some of them should impact less on it and more in pratical issues.
From the top of my head (All examples):
"Disturbed Sleep" should count as a -5 Sleep each time.
"Slept on the ground" 50% of sleep effectiveness.
"Tired" Impact in the mental Threshold.
"Ate off the ground" Gives a debuff on the threshold
"Pain (little)" Reduce manipulation and movement also Mood debuff
"Impressive bedroom" Buffs sleep effectiveness and gives a buff on the threshold.
That is what I understood from OP.
Also, Another option could be that some of this thoughts will bring the Break Threshold % up, like Neurotic and Too Smart do. Say my brother Died, My break threshold that was 10% go to 25%. While the other thoughts would make the blue bar move like always.
^this is good as well
Quote from: Flying Rockbass on June 30, 2016, 01:15:23 PM
What I understood from OP point of view is that not all the thought debuffs/buffs should count for the mental break threshold. Some of them should impact less on it and more in pratical issues.
From the top of my head (All examples):
"Disturbed Sleep" should count as a -5 Sleep each time.
"Slept on the ground" 50% of sleep effectiveness.
"Tired" Impact in the mental Threshold.
"Ate off the ground" Gives a debuff on the threshold
"Pain (little)" Reduce manipulation and movement also Mood debuff
"Impressive bedroom" Buffs sleep effectiveness and gives a buff on the threshold.
That is what I understood from OP.
Also, Another option could be that some of this thoughts will bring the Break Threshold % up, like Neurotic and Too Smart do. Say my brother Died, My break threshold that was 10% go to 25%. While the other thoughts would make the blue bar move like always.
BTW, i believe it is about 50% efficiency from sleeping on the ground. That why it is very helpful to build a bed for your colonist as soon as possible. you will notice how mach less time your colonist sleeping.
Okay, I've done some rebalancing for A14 overall.
Yay! Let this thread go on, maybe some helpful suggestions will pop up.
Also, maybe this thread should be transfered for suggestions
Quote from: Flying Rockbass on June 30, 2016, 05:55:55 PM
Yay! Let this thread go on, maybe some helpful suggestions will pop up.
Also, maybe this thread should be transfered for suggestions
I've put in a request to move this to suggestions.
And thanks to the people posting that tried to understand the muddled mess in my OP, hopefully I've cleared up my thoughts enough to make some logical sense now lol.
Just my thoughts on how to mix it up, stealing a bit of everyone's ideas quite heavily and would be a lot of work so I doubt it would happen.
But, remix the mood system into major and my minor, maybe one is just the colonists mood, the other is their emotional/psychological health.
The minor stuff is the food, sleeping in a dark cave all those sucky things. This affects work speed, social, but doesn't lead to breaks. However, it puts a soft debuff on the break point.
Now the major stuff is people dying, being captured, etc etc. This affects work speed and social, emotional state too. However, it also has the break point.
So what happens is, either your colonist is happy and their friend dies, they may be emotionally despondent (dazed) for a time, and they're depressed etc, but also have this sense of "our colony is great, look at what we have, we are lucky, and he died fighting to protect that" compared to if they have a really poor mood and go berserk or leave (and one suggestion of suicide in a pervious thread) where they're now feeling "what did my friend die for? What is the point of living in conditions like this if all that happens is we get murdered and enslaved?"
In short. Minor debuff affect break threshold, not actually leading to breaks, major events lead to breaks depending on the overall mood of the colonist. Live in a dirt hole with raw meat or nutrient paste, your threshold is 1 but a friend dying is a debuff of 20, living in luxury, your threshold is 50, your friend dying is still 20
Quote from: Locklave on June 30, 2016, 01:10:30 AM
Quote from: Tynan on June 29, 2016, 10:10:00 PM
I read things here all the time :)
Anyway, I'm trying to boil down your comments to understand what you actually want and I'm having a hard time. All I said was that the mood system isn't really about realism, but gameplay. But you don't really seem to disagree with that. Or do you?
Is it "realism" you want? What, specifically, would "realistic" look like? Would it mean that living in a filthy dark cave, eating off the floor, has no psychological impact? Do you want "ate without table" to be cut, or just reduced in effect? You want the mood system cut entirely? Or just made easier? What difficulty do you play on anyway?
It's obvious you've had some frustrating experience with the game as it stands, and are attributing that to the mood/mental breaks system. I just can't tell the change you're actually suggesting, or what specifically is the problem to be solved.
Sorry, I muddied that up a lot.
Basically I really enjoy gritty and brutal elements of the game, I by no means want it easier but rather I'd like that hard time to be focused around the real intense events rather then what I'd describe as silly stuff. If your friend died in a battle right next to you do you care that you slept on the ground in the dark or even that you are hungry?
Examples of Major mood effects as I see them, things that would effect your emotional state deeply
- losing friend/ally
- losing a loved one
- people injured and close to death
- losing a bonded pet
These sort of events feel like they should be the lions share of breaking stress points. That stuff should break people, I love it that way. I feel like you should be preparing for these events as best you can.
The issue I have is the way mood is currently being applied feels almost oppressive on a steady basis because of the quantity of minor mood effect and their relative power. Sleeping on the floor in a dark cave and eating paste off the floor sucks no argument here lol, it might make you bad tempered/depressed and act like a total ass. These events shouldn't break people however. What bothers me is that seemingly minor and major mood effects stack. This again is not to suggest only lowering the minor stuff, but also raising the major events that effect mood.
This is just off the top of my head. Having a terrible day to day life should effect how hard/fast you work, the quality/quantity. Also the kind of conversations they have with other colonist. Maybe that'd also start more fights. Does mood effect the conversations? Maybe mood and mental breaks shouldn't be a single system, if mood impacted other things I mean.
Boiled down I think the minor effect should be much smaller and the major stuff should be tests of character.
- A bad day shouldn't make you get Dazed or go Berserk.
- A good day shouldn't allow you to shrug off Family/Friends and Allies dying.
Thanks for the reply, I'm glad I came back to check the thread. I hope this post made more sense, these issues have slowly driven me away from playing the game. I bought it in 2014 in around june'ish, played it like crazy back then so this has been building in my mind for some time.
sorry if i'm late but its not just one thing making them go berserk its a bunch of things.
Quote from: Tacopaco on July 03, 2016, 04:31:09 PM
sorry if i'm late but its not just one thing making them go berserk its a bunch of things.
Please read the rest of the thread, that wasn't the point or really relevant to the central issue.
Everyone, what do you think of the mood rebalances made for A14?
Right now, It became better to identify what made someone break but, for me, it became very difficult to observe how the was the mood of the colonist. Sometimes, it seems that the colonist breaks even before the "Poor mood" alert triggers.
Quote from: Flying Rockbass on July 21, 2016, 10:21:15 AM
.. Sometimes, it seems that the colonist breaks even before the "Poor mood" alert triggers.
So I'm not utterly crazy!!!