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Title: death of children
Post by: fuzzlewhack on August 04, 2016, 03:06:22 AM
I thought it was illegal to portray the death of a child in a video game (in America, at least).  Rim World colonists that are <18 show that secondary age thingy that's greater than 18 so it's sort of a loophole for the current system.  Sort of hard to present the idea a newborn is 19 years old in planet XYZ years though.

(I'm not 100% on this.  Anybody else wanna verify?)
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: Pax_Empyrean on August 04, 2016, 08:09:07 AM
Quote from: fuzzlewhack on August 04, 2016, 03:06:22 AMI thought it was illegal to portray the death of a child in a video game (in America, at least).  Rim World colonists that are <18 show that secondary age thingy that's greater than 18 so it's sort of a loophole for the current system.  Sort of hard to present the idea a newborn is 19 years old in planet XYZ years though.

(I'm not 100% on this.  Anybody else wanna verify?)
I can verify that this is not correct.
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: milon on August 04, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
This was split from Pets: The pros and cons of your animals #2! (HELP NEEDED CHECK POST FOR DETAILS) (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=22626.0)

I have no idea what OP thought the relevance was...
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: Kagemusha12 on August 04, 2016, 02:53:14 PM
Well, AFAIK film and game producers often voluntarily avoid killing children in games/movies because they think it would create bad PR (and maybe a higher MPAA rating)
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: b0rsuk on August 04, 2016, 06:51:42 PM
In many European countries you're considered an adult if you're 18+. Yes, this includes beer.
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: Kagemusha12 on August 04, 2016, 08:06:48 PM
Which is why OP mentions colonists that are younger than 18, I guess ;)
(not that it would matter, as Pax_Empyrean already answered OPs question (i.e. that death of children in videogames isn't forbidden))
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: mumblemumble on August 05, 2016, 05:14:33 AM
Don't think so, fallout 1 and 2 are available for sale, and you can kill children in them...Or just kick them in the nuts so the little shits quit stealing from you..
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: TastyMints on August 05, 2016, 05:35:55 AM
Uh, no, it is not illegal. There are plenty of novels, movies, television shows, and videogames that portray the deaths of teenagers and children as a narrative element. Making it illegal would be a violation of the First Amendment as it would be abridging free speech. I don't know why you would think it's illegal. The only thing that stops videogames from including graphic depictions of violence against minors is the ESRB and the policies that videogame retailers impose.

Depicting the graphic death of children is generally a straight ticket to an Adults Only rating from the ESRB. Most major retailers like Gamestop do not carry AO videogames which means that, in the mainstream market, any game that gets an AO rating usually censors itself. Examples are Manhunt 2, a game where filters and camera angles were used to tone down the vividly depicted murders. As a digitally distributed PC game Rimworld is outside the purview of this system, and any depiction of violence against children or teenagers within the game can hardly be labeled as graphic.
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: CannibarRechter on August 05, 2016, 08:59:29 AM
TastyMints has summarized this situation perfectly. It is not at all illegal, but manufacturers generally choose not to do it, for marketing reasons.
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: Naeem on August 05, 2016, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: milon on August 04, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
This was split from Pets: The pros and cons of your animals #2! (HELP NEEDED CHECK POST FOR DETAILS) (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=22626.0)

I have no idea what OP thought the relevance was...
OP?
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: Kagemusha12 on August 05, 2016, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: Naeem on August 05, 2016, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: milon on August 04, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
This was split from Pets: The pros and cons of your animals #2! (HELP NEEDED CHECK POST FOR DETAILS) (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=22626.0)

I have no idea what OP thought the relevance was...
OP?

Overpowered ...
well, in context of Threads: Opening Poster ... i.e. the poster who created the first posting in the thread
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: ZestyLemons on August 05, 2016, 09:29:34 PM
It's not illegal, but most people who make media (from writing, to movies, to games) find the death children in poor taste. More of a taboo thing.
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: Wex on August 05, 2016, 09:34:21 PM
Have you ever seen "The last of us"?
Title: Re: death of children
Post by: fuzzlewhack on August 05, 2016, 11:09:29 PM
Ok yeah good stuff.  I originally thought so because I don't think I've (ever?) seen child death in video games, and more so it seems big time game devs tend to dance around it (i'm thinking of the fallout series where you can blast a kid right in the face with a minigun but it just knocks him down for a minute or two.)



Welll shit.  If there's nothing stopping Big T, lets get some child-rearin' up in this game!  It's not hard enough without a few more deadbeats hanging around!