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Title: [1.3.3067] Disabling cutting in growing zone does not work
Post by: Desivy on July 21, 2021, 05:25:21 PM
Started playing the game after the new small update.

Noticed a pawn started cutting in a growing zone that had cutting disabled.
Tried clicking the "allow cutting" button a few times/remaking growing zone. Didnt work.

Disabled all mods and started a new game with Dev mode enabled.
Created a new growing zone, disabled cutting, grew a few potatoes and grew them to maturity.
Pawns immediately started cutting grown potatoes.
Title: Re: [1.3.3067] Disabling cutting in growing zone does not work
Post by: meathelmet2001 on July 22, 2021, 11:46:35 PM
I have the same issue as well.
Title: [1.3.3074] Farmers Cutting plants in grow zones with cutting disabled
Post by: Vizibl3 on July 29, 2021, 05:54:03 PM
The circumstances/what happened: I was growing rice and psychoid plants but already have enough in storage so i wanted to leave the plants uncut as a sort of living storage but my farmers are ignoring that the plants are in grow zone that only has sowing allowed and are cutting fully grown plants regardless
What I expect to happen: I was thinking that by disabling cutting that my pawns would leave the fully grown plants alone until they were either destroyed or died from age.
Steps you can follow to get the bug:
1) make a grow zone and grow I think anything but I tested with corn and psychoid plants.
2) disable cutting either by highlighting multiple grow zones or by selecting them one at a time
2.5) save and load the game maybe?
3) let the plants grow to 100% and make sure your farming pawn is prioritized to grow and cut

Work around: Remove the grow zones until you want to cut the plants then replace the grow zone which is kinda work intensive.

here's a link to a google drive with my save file https://drive.google.com/file/d/1THGTA5DlTz0IUDsYw8mxRHLK2C2XH7Le/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: [1.3.3074] Farmers Cutting plants in grow zones with cutting disabled
Post by: Anarcraft on July 31, 2021, 08:10:58 AM
This isn't "Cutting" that is happening, it's "Harvesting".  You'd need a mod that lets you disable harvesting.
Title: Re: [1.3.3074] Farmers Cutting plants in grow zones with cutting disabled
Post by: Ark on July 31, 2021, 10:37:08 AM
It is, however, a confusing issue. I also thought "Cool, they have added a do-not-harvest button.". I could have used it today.
It is actually an allow-cutting-of-trees-that-are-on-or-next-to-the-growing-zone button with "cut plants" icon. Right next to the allow-sowing button. To appease the tree-huggers.
Having allow-sowing, allow-harvesting and allow-clearing-of-trees buttons with appropriate icons would be much clearer. There is a tooltip, but the difference between cutting and harvesting can be a bit hazy.
I'm thinking of an icon of a green sapling, the existing "harvest" icon and an icon of wheat, tree and an axe.

More confused people:
Plant Cut not selected but colonists harvest the plants (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=55026.0)
[1.3.3067] Disabling cutting in growing zone does not work (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=54634.0)
Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=55282.0)
Title: Plant Cut not selected but colonists harvest the plants
Post by: Banditzz on August 01, 2021, 01:16:13 PM
So i create an area for haygrass to grow, allow sow but disallow cutting.
this is for my animals, i leave it and next thing i know the colonists are cutting the plants.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Plant Cut not selected but colonists harvest the plants
Post by: Canute on August 01, 2021, 01:33:59 PM
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=54958.0
Title: Re: [1.3.3067] Disabling cutting in growing zone does not work
Post by: top2000 on August 03, 2021, 09:49:43 PM
same here, vanilla client
pls fix
Title: Re: [1.3.3067] Disabling cutting in growing zone does not work
Post by: Ark on August 04, 2021, 03:03:07 AM
You guys didn't search or read three pages back, but you are proving a point.
[1.3.3074] Farmers Cutting plants in grow zones with cutting disabled (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=54958.0)
Title: Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work
Post by: Scarfish on August 16, 2021, 03:15:50 PM
I try to manage my growing zones with the allow cutting option but it seems not working properly. My farmers keep cutting my fields no matter what I choose.

Buggy or me stupid ?

Title: Re: Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work
Post by: Canute on August 16, 2021, 03:30:21 PM
Does your farmer cut or harvest the plant's.
Disallow cutting only prevent "plant cut" job not harvesting from "grow" job's.
Title: Re: Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work
Post by: Scarfish on August 17, 2021, 09:31:00 AM
He harvests.

Is there a way not to allow to harvest but allow to sow ?
Title: Re: Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work
Post by: skullywag on August 17, 2021, 09:34:29 AM
In what scenario would you NOT want to harvest?
Title: Re: Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work
Post by: Ark on August 17, 2021, 09:47:57 AM
Colonists prioritize harvesting over sowing. If you have an ample supply of food and fields of ripe corn, they go harvest the corn while neglecting to sow the healroot which you sorely need.
Or perhaps the field is a bit distant and you want to avoid walking back and forth as plants ripen at slightly different times.
It's very confusing when you put "sow" and "cut" buttons next to eachother when they are not quite related.
Also: [1.3.3074] Farmers Cutting plants in grow zones with cutting disabled (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=54958.0)
Title: Re: Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work
Post by: Canute on August 17, 2021, 09:56:41 AM
Quote from: Scarfish on August 17, 2021, 09:31:00 AM
Is there a way not to allow to harvest but allow to sow ?
Use mod's like
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1499848654
Title: Re: Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work
Post by: skullywag on August 17, 2021, 10:01:55 AM
I would say grab the worktab mod and then you can set the prioritys of the individual work types and have people who do sowing before harvesting (those with low plant skill) and have some who harvest first etc.
Title: Re: Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work
Post by: Ark on August 17, 2021, 10:21:14 AM
Worktab (which is an absolute must have) and toggle harvest mods are excellent solutions of course, but that doesn't stop newbies from scratching their heads in confusion and reporting this as a bug yet again.
Title: Re: Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work
Post by: Locklear on August 17, 2021, 10:59:04 AM
Quote from: skullywag on August 17, 2021, 09:34:29 AM
In what scenario would you NOT want to harvest?

The hay field inside my animal pen when I have too much hay stockpiled already.
Title: Re: Stop "Allow cutting" doesn't work
Post by: skullywag on August 17, 2021, 02:18:11 PM
Quote from: Locklear on August 17, 2021, 10:59:04 AM
Quote from: skullywag on August 17, 2021, 09:34:29 AM
In what scenario would you NOT want to harvest?

too much

I never have this problem :D
Title: Re: [1.3.3067] Disabling cutting in growing zone does not work
Post by: Pheanox on October 06, 2021, 06:47:39 PM
I'm reviewing this and I'm not sure a clarity pass is needed here.  The text of disable cutting is: "When disabled, colonists will never cut plants in this zone. They will sow new plants in spaces that are already empty, and harvest." (Emphasis mine)

What can be done to make this more clear that this disables cutting plants other than the crop?