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Title: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Omenpapa on December 19, 2014, 04:38:37 PM
Is it intended that "friendly" visitors just decide to take my food and eat it ? I'm pretty sure they don't pay or work for it, so this is pretty much stealing.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Cimanyd on December 19, 2014, 04:43:10 PM
Are you sure they're taking your food? Since A7, anyone that shows up (visitors, attackers, etc.) carries one meal, and eats it when they get hungry. Visitors leave before they get hungry again.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: baronjutter on December 19, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
I've absolutely seen visitors come in and eat my food.  One visitor never left, he just kept eating my food, sleeping on the floor when exhausted, and generally being a mooch.  He really wasn't much of a problem but after locking the main base door during a siege he went on a tantrum (due to no food) and broke some things outside.  Ended up having to wall him in and let him starve to death :(

I can't wait to get more meaningful interactions with visitors.  Actually invite them in and give them hospitality, trade, all that fun.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Cimanyd on December 19, 2014, 04:55:37 PM
Quote from: baronjutter on December 19, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
I've absolutely seen visitors come in and eat my food.  One visitor never left, he just kept eating my food, sleeping on the floor when exhausted, and generally being a mooch.  He really wasn't much of a problem but after locking the main base door during a siege he went on a tantrum (due to no food) and broke some things outside.  Ended up having to wall him in and let him starve to death :(

You sure it was a visitor? It sounds like someone that crashed, but you ignored instead of rescuing, and they recovered.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Omenpapa on December 19, 2014, 04:56:08 PM
I'm not entirely sure if they ate my food. Since I didn't see them having any food, I assumed they grabbed mine. It is entirely possible that they just ate their 1 and only food which magically appears when they sit at my table.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Cimanyd on December 19, 2014, 05:01:05 PM
Quote from: Omenpapa on December 19, 2014, 04:56:08 PM
I'm not entirely sure if they ate my food. Since I didn't see them having any food, I assumed they grabbed mine. It is entirely possible that they just ate their 1 and only food which magically appears when they sit at my table.

It shows up in their inventory in their "gear" tab, and it's randomly a simple meal, fine meal, or packaged survival meal. You might notice dead enemies dropping those if they attacked immediately, and visitors eating them at your table.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Fernbhoy on December 19, 2014, 05:20:02 PM
nah they defiantly seem to be eating our food again

seems to be when they can't leave the colony for some reason.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Mikhail Reign on December 19, 2014, 08:46:47 PM
Yup. It seems if the outside temps are unsafe they will just mooch at ya base. Not all a group always - but so far I had one guy stay on for over a year. In the end I considered him an honorary member of the colony. Tried a couple of mods to make a bed for him - no luck.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Cimanyd on December 19, 2014, 08:49:56 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Reign on December 19, 2014, 08:46:47 PM
Yup. It seems if the outside temps are unsafe they will just mooch at ya base. Not all a group always - but so far I had one guy stay on for over a year. In the end I considered him an honorary member of the colony. Tried a couple of mods to make a bed for him - no luck.

And it was a visitor from a faction, not a crashed spacer?
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Mikhail Reign on December 19, 2014, 11:03:30 PM
yup. I was actually working on making a story board on it, so I have screen caps of the whole thing. He eventuallyhad a mental break due to starvation because 'reasons' (I think there was a blight and I didn't notice my packed freezer went to empty and I didn't notice) and wondered off into the snow - not a problem tho! His factions next visit left me with 3 or so new moochers.

(http://s2.postimg.org/6ojbg7y45/screenshot21.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6ojbg7y45/)
"Who's this new guys that's been here for a while, and never cleans the dishes?"

(http://s24.postimg.org/higv8j5td/screenshot42.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/higv8j5td/)
"Great! Now the guy who sleeps on the couch is having partys!"

(http://s10.postimg.org/6usdbwtc5/screenshot66.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6usdbwtc5/)
"Wait, I have to pay for this shit?"

(http://s18.postimg.org/scky6s15h/screenshot67.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/scky6s15h/)
"Well screw that, I'm going home!"
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: John_Bigless on August 26, 2016, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: baronjutter on December 19, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
I've absolutely seen visitors come in and eat my food.  One visitor never left, he just kept eating my food, sleeping on the floor when exhausted, and generally being a mooch.  He really wasn't much of a problem but after locking the main base door during a siege he went on a tantrum (due to no food) and broke some things outside.  Ended up having to wall him in and let him starve to death :(

I can't wait to get more meaningful interactions with visitors.  Actually invite them in and give them hospitality, trade, all that fun.
Well, if you want to make a room for guests and make them happy, you can get the "Hospitality" mod wich is currently up to date. Also note that if i see a visitor eating my meals wihout permisson, i'd order my guards to restrain him, unless that visitor is too strong or is a special guest.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Andy_Dandy on August 26, 2016, 01:23:08 PM
New bed category: Hotel bed.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: lowdegger on August 26, 2016, 03:08:45 PM
This is still a problem in A15. Playing yesterday, visitors walked into my store-room, picked up survival meals, and ate them.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: MikeLemmer on August 26, 2016, 04:13:55 PM
Quote from: Cimanyd on December 19, 2014, 04:43:10 PM
Are you sure they're taking your food? Since A7, anyone that shows up (visitors, attackers, etc.) carries one meal, and eats it when they get hungry. Visitors leave before they get hungry again.

I've had it happen myself. One of my new colonies nearly starved to death because a dozen tribalists visited us without carrying any meals. They completely devoured my remaining survival packs instead.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 26, 2016, 05:07:59 PM
Raiders on the other hand leave tons of food behind sometimes.
The last tribal raid dropped 3.5k of pemmican on my doorstep.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: boates on August 26, 2016, 06:50:41 PM
Here's a solution.... Just kill'em. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: night777 on August 26, 2016, 07:02:39 PM
I really like the Hospitality mod.

Visitors mooching my food and stuff, but I can build guest beds for them to sleep in (and therefore create a guest room).

And with the mod, visitors often leave items as "thank you for your hospitality" moves. 100 silver here, a limestone club there, so its adequate compensation. The only problem being when multiple groups come, and large groups come, and they stick around for ages and eat a bunch of food and my people or animals are starving before Winter ends!
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: s22190 on August 26, 2016, 09:36:11 PM
I consider them like in-laws. You guys remember having those over when you were kids ? They would eat your food, break your toys and fucken hog the nintendo all the time. Worst of all is when they went overboard and you started complaining, your parents would tell you to '' be nice''. Yeah. So I started a cannibal colony and I'm eating my visitors. Screw them.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: RemingtonRyder on August 26, 2016, 10:17:27 PM
Visitors don't really care what the ingredients of the meal are when they're grabbing it, do they?

Good. GOOD.

Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: MikeLemmer on August 27, 2016, 04:26:44 AM
Yep, even in the latest build of A15, I had half of an Outsider group visiting eat my meals. I think they drank my last beer, too.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: John_Bigless on September 01, 2016, 03:25:31 AM
Quote from: MarvinKosh on August 26, 2016, 10:17:27 PM
Visitors don't really care what the ingredients of the meal are when they're grabbing it, do they?

Good. GOOD.
Are you thinking what i am thinking?
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: John_Bigless on September 01, 2016, 03:26:42 AM
Quote from: SpaceDorf on August 26, 2016, 05:07:59 PM
Raiders on the other hand leave tons of food behind sometimes.
The last tribal raid dropped 3.5k of pemmican on my doorstep.
That's a harsh plot twist.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Deimos Rast on September 01, 2016, 03:48:59 AM
so in the Hospitality mod, there is, a JobGiver (iirc, not at right pc), that says a guest is supposed to get food when he visits. I commented out this line and it solved the problem. Now all my guests joyfully starve when they visit. Might want to try the same. 8)

edit: duty def, my bad.
<li Class="JobGiver_GetFood"/>
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: SpaceDorf on September 01, 2016, 11:09:25 AM
Quote from: John_Bigless on September 01, 2016, 03:26:42 AM
Quote from: SpaceDorf on August 26, 2016, 05:07:59 PM
Raiders on the other hand leave tons of food behind sometimes.
The last tribal raid dropped 3.5k of pemmican on my doorstep.
That's a harsh plot twist.

Luckily I could sell it of before it all decaid, because I had neither enough storage space nor hauling capacity  :(
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Serenity on September 01, 2016, 11:47:21 AM
I wouldn't mind the food really unless I'm low. But I'm drawing the line at beer.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Deimos Rast on September 01, 2016, 01:39:51 PM
Quote from: Serenity on September 01, 2016, 11:47:21 AM
I wouldn't mind the food really unless I'm low. But I'm drawing the line at beer.
and the blunts; especially when you have it forbidden from your own colonists....
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Mr.Cross on September 01, 2016, 01:51:52 PM
If all goes well in my current mountain colony, No visitor shall ever see my food or drugs
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: ThiIsMe007 on September 01, 2016, 02:25:38 PM
Quote from: Serenity on September 01, 2016, 11:47:21 AM
I wouldn't mind the food really unless I'm low. But I'm drawing the line at beer.

I am glad to see that some people manage to preserve some standards even when enduring the harshest torments on some lost planet.

I raise my mug to you, friend.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: MikeLemmer on September 01, 2016, 02:26:28 PM
Will visitors go through doors forbidden to your colonists?
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: Mr.Cross on September 01, 2016, 02:27:01 PM
Quote from: MikeLemmer on September 01, 2016, 02:26:28 PM
Will visitors go through doors forbidden to your colonists?

Yup
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: MikeLemmer on September 01, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
Quote from: Mr.Cross on September 01, 2016, 02:27:01 PM
Quote from: MikeLemmer on September 01, 2016, 02:26:28 PM
Will visitors go through doors forbidden to your colonists?

Yup

Damn mooches.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: MeowRailroad on September 01, 2016, 08:54:00 PM
I'd make a decoy fridge at the end of a long hallway and then brick it off once they are inside. During this time I'd also brick off the regular one so they wouldn't go there. The colonists would just be a bit hungry.
Title: Re: Visitors eating my food
Post by: John_Bigless on September 02, 2016, 08:40:19 AM
Quote from: MikeLemmer on September 01, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
Quote from: Mr.Cross on September 01, 2016, 02:27:01 PM
Quote from: MikeLemmer on September 01, 2016, 02:26:28 PM
Will visitors go through doors forbidden to your colonists?

Yup

Damn mooches.

We need the ability to assign a colonist as a locksmith and have him make keys to lock doors.