THEGENTLEPACK
ZE NON-GENTLE PACK
ALSO KNOW AS THEGENTZPACK
AND AS ZEGENTZPACK
AND ALSO AS ZEGENTLEPACK
DON'T FORGET ITS ALSO KNOWN AS UOMREBOOTED
ANY BUGS ARE TO BE REPORTED HERE.ANY ISSUES ARE TO BE REPORTED HERE.IF NOT REPORTED HERE THEIR IS A GOOD ALMOST 100% CHANCE THAT I'LL NEVER NOTICE THEM AND YOU WILL NEVER GET THE SUPPORT YOU NEED.PLZ READ THE MANUAL UNDER THE README, CHANCES ARE THAT ANY/ALL ISSUE YOUR GETTING IS DUE TO A FAULTY INSTALL.TGP IS POWERED BY:(http://tinyurl.com/pd78ovl) (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16599.0)
(PIC IS LINK... duh...)
Semi-Stable Versions: https://gitlab.com/RimGentzCo/TheGentzPack-Main/tagsNote: Even Majors mean release builds, odd ones mean development builds.Note: If you don't grab a Semi-Stable version (but instead go to the links bellow) then please write down the commit ID of the version you downloaded so in case of future bugs I can know what version you were using.LATEST DEV BUILD: https://gitlab.com/RimGentzCo/TheGentzPack-Main/tree/developLATEST RELEASE BUILD: https://gitlab.com/RimGentzCo/TheGentzPack-Main/tree/masterMAIN PAGE: https://gitlab.com/RimGentzCo/TheGentzPack-MainLICENSE: https://gitlab.com/RimGentzCo/TheGentzPack-Main/blob/master/LICENSEISSUES: https://gitlab.com/RimGentzCo/TheGentzPack-Main/issuesSOURCES FOR DLLs: https://gitlab.com/RimGentzCo/TheGentzPack-Sources/tree/masterVISIT MY PAGE ON MARVIN'S MOD SITE: http://rimworldmods.omniloth.net/modpacks-modpack-pages/gentz-pack/
Permisions received:
minami26 (Dissect away!)
kexici
Katavrik
ItchyFleas
JuliaEllie
Latta
Kirid (I asked for Biodiversity only)
E (1000101) (mountain temp, smooth wall, CCL)
skyarkhangel (His mods, not from his modpack)
Kyos
pidggit (I asked for Biodiversity only)
Orion
Sam_
Haplo
Shinzy (I asked for Biodiversity only)
Telkir
eatKenny
Fluffy (l2032) (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16120.0)
Igabod (FastFloors + Biodiversity)
MarvinKosh
EdB
Jaxxa
rooki1
Ninefinger
BangUDie
Brunayla
blaze7736
isistoy
colony_freezer (Link to it & no donations)
Alistaire
Random nuggets to remember:
-noimageavailable offered CR patch for PA
-Miscellaneous mapgenerator not compatible with outpost mod & seeds please mod
-Compatibility patch for outpost mod in help folder
-Compatibility patch for seeds please mod in UOM
-Haplo Offered to help
-Rimfire V1.8 under curent licence
-Rimfire must come with CC BY-NC-ND 4.0, include "Rimfire", "by Alistaire", the version number of Rimfire "v1.8"
-List all changes to Rimfire
-If license for Rimfire gets updated must ask for permission again.
-CCL should remain seperate, although not required.
-Don't know the source of many textures. If someone notices thier from a mod which I don't have permission for, I should take em' down and replace em' or ask permission for em'
RESERVED
RESERVED
Bookmarked ;)
Nine's mod pack was the only reason I have really been playing Rimworld...
Not the individual mods as such, but all the implemented mods working together leading to the experience it gave.
Something which just isn't the case when downloading them individually (if they work together that is)
It's a shame it panned out this way, such is life....but Kudos for taking on the challenge ;)
Also bookmarked! Sucks how it all panned out... This modpack is what keeps me coming back to rimworld, goodluck on maintaining this beast! PS: add combat realism 😝
Like others, this modpack was what made me continue play Rimworld.
I won't be able to help in modding or balancing at all, but if you want technical help with Github or other stuff like that don't hesitate. ;)
Btw, will the new modpack be from scratch (with the same spirit as the UOM) or a direct continuation of the work of Nine ?
So when are you planning your first release? Days? Weeks? Ect. Just curious :)
Quote from: SoundReaper on September 30, 2015, 11:14:57 AM
Like others, this modpack was what made me continue play Rimworld.
I won't be able to help in modding or balancing at all, but if you want technical help with Github or other stuff like that don't hesitate. ;)
Btw, will the new modpack be from scratch (with the same spirit as the UOM) or a direct continuation of the work of Nine ?
EDIT: Scrach
Quote from: Herc18 on September 30, 2015, 01:59:15 PM
So when are you planning your first release? Days? Weeks? Ect. Just curious :)
Few weeks, curent ETA is is 2 months, ya know, permisions and stuff.
bookmarked, good luck man
It is a little sad that nine finger is disappearing. He may have been controversial and wasn't perfect, but the UOP made my experience and the experience of many others far better and more convenient. The work of juggling mods manually would have consisted of hundreds of hours if everybody had to do it on their own, and the mix of possible mods would have been poorer and less varied. He spent a great deal of time trying to make a compatible and balanced experience for everyone, and mostly succeeded.
RIP ninefinger, may your contributions and controversies in the end ultimately prove to sum up positively for the rimworld community, as I believe it shall. He did a hella of work clunking things together and I'm amazed my computer doesn't literally die every time I load things up.
*Turns notifications on*
I hope this all pans out for you TheGentlmen, kinda a shame to see Nine go, but well... Yeah... that all happened.
good luck great gentz ;)
Another shell-shocked refugee form the UOP old thread....when I saw it was gone I had a minor panic attack, and i am concerned for Nine :( , but it is awesome to see the banner taken up by TheGentleman :)
Reserved first page and bookmarked.
Good luck TheGentlmen ;)
May the force be with you, TheGentlemen!
Are us less interested in combat people going to hate your version, TheGentleman? :P
Quote from: Pheanox on October 01, 2015, 08:11:19 PM
Are us less interested in combat people going to hate your version, TheGentleman? :P
Nay, not including TF bigger raids and similar
I am including my storyteller tho, but then agian, he is kinda easier the RR.
I'm just giving you a hard time anyway. Good to know.
Great! I only started getting into modded gameplay very recently and enjoyed trying out the original pack, just to see it all come down in flames. Now I don't know any of the people involved or the previous arguments as I really only come to the forums when there's a gameplay issue. But just from reading your posts and plans, I suspect that your way of communicating and going about things (such as asking permission first) might lead to a more long-time sustainable project than the... hm, ideosyncratic approach of the original compiler.
So, good luck, and I'm looking forward to the release!
I have released my copy of UOP, it has a few extra mods, like mountain temp, and smooth wall, it has ALMOST all the paches (Not including no seeds please & no darkness), a custom version of darkenses and is missing alien ants and miner's helmet.
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Nice!
You can use my texture pack, I will notify you when it's updated. Or even better if you could make a git repo. :)
Anyways, good luck!
nice to see someone still contiune this amazing modpack, one thing to this because in last build i cant see this ( older version have alpha 10), can you add droids to this modpack i know for some people this is usless but try build base in place where - 80 is standard tons free food and no free hands to take all ( or burn all).
Good Luck with it ! i only just recently discovered it and it`s great fun. Thank you for dedicating your time to continue it !
Quote from: halcyforn on October 02, 2015, 12:11:59 PM
nice to see someone still contiune this amazing modpack, one thing to this because in last build i cant see this ( older version have alpha 10), can you add droids to this modpack i know for some people this is usless but try build base in place where - 80 is standard tons free food and no free hands to take all ( or burn all).
Droids? Hrm, mabey... Was it the mod Miscellaneous? If so then yes.
Hey Gent I found the No Seeds patch and No darkness if they help you.
Sorry for my English
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I wanted to throw some thanks to Gentleman. It comes with a heavy heart that I have to report I have banned Ninefingers after all the drama he's caused and the problems he's made for everyone. I don't do this peacefully mind you all, Nine was a good guy... he just made poor decisions. Gentle brings to the table a different spin with a lot of heart ready to make a pack that the every-player can really sit down and enjoy. Lets try to make sure we don't bog the poor guy down with crazy requests or problematic posts!
Good luck brother!
Quote from: regenesis on October 02, 2015, 11:18:15 PM
Hey Gent I found the No Seeds patch and No darkness if they help you.
Sorry for my English
Ty
Quote from: Ramsis on October 02, 2015, 11:24:10 PM
I wanted to throw some thanks to Gentleman. It comes with a heavy heart that I have to report I have banned Ninefingers after all the drama he's caused and the problems he's made for everyone. I don't do this peacefully mind you all, Nine was a good guy... he just made poor decisions. Gentle brings to the table a different spin with a lot of heart ready to make a pack that the every-player can really sit down and enjoy. Lets try to make sure we don't bog the poor guy down with crazy requests or problematic posts!
Good luck brother!
Thank you.
not miscelaus. when he add thsi this name droids or something like that yopu produce specialized droids what do one job like clean and haul, cremaotry gardening etc. this is very usefull when you have arctic base. this 2 small bots form miscelause are to slow and to fast need recharge for now 5 colonists have poroblem to clean map 500 bodies on map. about mai i have problem becuase on last version before website was deleted, colonists dont want build this mai. old droid was build on smithing table and need ai core in that mod.
Quote from: TheGentlmen (GENT) on October 02, 2015, 10:00:55 AM
I have released my copy of UOP, it has a few extra mods, like mountain temp, and smooth wall, it has ALMOST all the paches (Not including no seeds please & no darkness), a custom version of darkenses and is missing alien ants and miner's helmet.
snipped legal jargon
New to modding. First heard about UOP yesterday, when it was already too late :(
I downloaded your copy of UOP. Installed on a fresh install of RW (12d) (extracted mods to mod folder, copied modconfig to appdata). Got ~20 red errors. When in-game, missing loads of graphics. Anyone else getting this, or is it just me?
Gentle i believe the person mentioning droids is referring to the droids from MD2 (they weren't added previously due to apparently being incompatible with the mods and there was no patch made at the time)
Yeah MD2 droids isn't A12 compatible yet, I think I read that its being re-written... but MAI Robots is pretty cool anyway.
Sorry to add to your woes but it appears the 'noseedsplease' patch doesn't actually work, I've had to manually disable the 'seedsplease' mod entirely, although so far that has worked effectively (on new maps/worlds only obviously) without causing a bunch of error messages.
many thanks for your work and that you posted it for us !
Quote from: Jakey52 on October 03, 2015, 07:27:09 AM
Gentle i believe the person mentioning droids is referring to the droids from MD2 (they weren't added previously due to apparently being incompatible with the mods and there was no patch made at the time)
Thier bieng rewriten...
Quote from: Praetorian on October 03, 2015, 08:52:45 AM
Sorry to add to your woes but it appears the 'noseedsplease' patch doesn't actually work, I've had to manually disable the 'seedsplease' mod entirely, although so far that has worked effectively (on new maps/worlds only obviously) without causing a bunch of error messages.
Yes it does:
"This patch allows you to safely remove seeds please. This patch MUST be applied LAST and Seeds Please Mod must be disabled manually in game." -Old website
Without the patch, when ya disable the mod the game bugs out and stuff.
Quote from: Praetorian on October 03, 2015, 08:52:45 AM
Sorry to add to your woes but it appears the 'noseedsplease' patch doesn't actually work, I've had to manually disable the 'seedsplease' mod entirely, although so far that has worked effectively (on new maps/worlds only obviously) without causing a bunch of error messages.
If you have "no seeds" listed as a mod, then you probably didn't unzip it correctly.
When unzipping it (last) it should overwrite some files. Then you only have to disable the seeds please mod, there is nothing to enable
I'm still running with the 216 build of UOP with Glitter-tech, no seeds & tools for haul, since it was the last one I had downloaded..
I have the rimsenal patch too, but that was downloaded with build 191, not sure how much changed in UOP's last few days of being online.
Nice job gentleman, wish you the best of luck.
TheGentelmen,
Please pick a direction for your mod pack, and stick to it, don't let it get bogged down with request after request. UOM had become bloated, and due to the huge lag, was becoming unplayable.
You can try to please all the people, and add everything, which will upset everyone along the way, or pick a direction, and stick to it.
And if your small mods are any indication of where you will be going, then I will not want your modpack... and that is my choice, nothing against you, but you seem to like the hard impossible challenge. I prefer the challenge of building the base/colony, and running of the colony, and keeping the colonist happy.
I wish you luck, and a thick skin.
Quote from: TLHeart on October 03, 2015, 05:03:29 PM
TheGentelmen,
Please pick a direction for your mod pack, and stick to it, don't let it get bogged down with request after request. UOM had become bloated, and due to the huge lag, was becoming unplayable.
You can try to please all the people, and add everything, which will upset everyone along the way, or pick a direction, and stick to it.
And if your small mods are any indication of where you will be going, then I will not want your modpack... and that is my choice, nothing against you, but you seem to like the hard impossible challenge. I prefer the challenge of building the base/colony, and running of the colony, and keeping the colonist happy.
I wish you luck, and a thick skin.
I plan to make it relatively challenging (Slightly less then HCSK), where the only way to live is to automate everything, a foundation of this will be the research web, something like the one in Civ 5. That means you can reach your goals in multiple ways.
But my main goal is simple quality of life things, vein miner, edb interface, research info, health tabs, HILCAH and similar.
I don't plan to make a wooden skyscraper on a marsh that will crash down in the slightest touch. I plan to make a small room, a modpack-lite with a good foundation.
So basically my version of SC + things like MIA and droids with a few random mods here and thier, mods which you will never notice.
As for my 'fun' mods, they'll must like be not included... and if they do they'll be in the form of patches.
Edit:
On a thurver note, I'm not going to try to cater to everyone, its not called TheEveryonePack, its called TheGentlePack. Its thery hard to convince me to do something. If I think the earth is flat, it will take you weeks for you to make me even CONSIDER that the earth isn't. So I'll leave it on this:
_Random Person WWSIHNPTA*_ | _ME_ |
Will you listen to my every command? | Is it on my list. |
Yes. | I don't see it, try again. |
It will make you a better person. | I like being horrible. |
It will make you a more liked person person. | I like being hated. |
It will make you rich. | I am already rich in happiness, my modpack gave me all I want from it. |
You will be cursed. | I am always cursed, cursed with the gift of entertainment. |
You are evil. | I am always always evil, I was so evil that I made this modpack to entertain you. |
I will spam you. | I love spam, it make me know that people care. You wouldn't bother spaming me if you didn't care. |
I will strip your fame. | You will strip nothing, I'm having no fame, never had any fame and never will have any fame. |
I will steal your modpack, change it as I please then claim its all mine. | I'd love to see a derivative of my work. It will make me know that my work was soo cared for that someone decided to put in the effort to insure that if I give up thier will always be something for overs to play! |
*Who Wants Something I have No Plan To Add
Quote from: Toosa on October 03, 2015, 05:32:41 AM
Quote from: TheGentlmen (GENT) on October 02, 2015, 10:00:55 AM
I have released my copy of UOP, it has a few extra mods, like mountain temp, and smooth wall, it has ALMOST all the paches (Not including no seeds please & no darkness), a custom version of darkenses and is missing alien ants and miner's helmet.
snipped legal jargon
New to modding. First heard about UOP yesterday, when it was already too late :(
I downloaded your copy of UOP. Installed on a fresh install of RW (12d) (extracted mods to mod folder, copied modconfig to appdata). Got ~20 red errors. When in-game, missing loads of graphics. Anyone else getting this, or is it just me?
Did you add the modconfig?
This isn't really related to the Gentlepack, because this is an issue with the original UOP.
Where are all the added backstories to be found? A couple are in Backstories Core, a couple in PreTranscended, and a couple in BetterTribals, but I don't know where the rest are. The gratuitous overuse of restrictions in some of the backstories is annoying me (why would an urbworld humanitarian be unable to face fire?), and I feel like manually editing a few things.
Quote from: NuclearStudent on October 03, 2015, 07:28:39 PM
This isn't really related to the Gentlepack, because this is an issue with the original UOP.
Where are all the added backstories to be found? A couple are in Backstories Core, a couple in PreTranscended, and a couple in BetterTribals, but I don't know where the rest are. The gratuitous overuse of restrictions in some of the backstories is annoying me (why would an urbworld humanitarian be unable to face fire?), and I feel like manually editing a few things.
/shrug
Ask Nine...
If you know the names of the missing backstories search for it.
I'm using the file from the third post in the thread, but it seems a number of things are missing textures, such as bars and copper ore. Should I simply wait for the new version instead?
Quote from: Nanao-kun on October 03, 2015, 10:02:44 PM
I'm using the file from the third post in the thread, but it seems a number of things are missing textures, such as bars and copper ore. Should I simply wait for the new version instead?
Quote from: FX2K on October 03, 2015, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Praetorian on October 03, 2015, 08:52:45 AM
Sorry to add to your woes but it appears the 'noseedsplease' patch doesn't actually work, I've had to manually disable the 'seedsplease' mod entirely, although so far that has worked effectively (on new maps/worlds only obviously) without causing a bunch of error messages.
If you have "no seeds" listed as a mod, then you probably didn't unzip it correctly.
When unzipping it (last) it should overwrite some files. Then you only have to disable the seeds please mod, there is nothing to enable
I'm still running with the 216 build of UOP with Glitter-tech, no seeds & tools for haul, since it was the last one I had downloaded..
I have the rimsenal patch too, but that was downloaded with build 191, not sure how much changed in UOP's last few days of being online.
Err, my fualt.
UOM adds a few textures into the core folder and I didn't put a core folder... sorry.
Reuploading.
Should be fixed now! ;D
The only reason I ever played RimWorld was for UOM and Ninefingers. I'm sad to see him go. I guess this isn't really a continuation of UOM since you are starting from scratch, but I hope it adds the elements of entertainment we got out of UOM. I'll keep checking in on ya from time to time and see how it's progressing.
Goodluck TheGentlmen
Quote from: SlightlyTilted on October 03, 2015, 11:23:23 PM
The only reason I ever played RimWorld was for UOM and Ninefingers. I'm sad to see him go. I guess this isn't really a continuation of UOM since you are starting from scratch, but I hope it adds the elements of entertainment we got out of UOM. I'll keep checking in on ya from time to time and see how it's progressing.
Goodluck TheGentlmen
Al ought I'll be starting from scratch, I'll be stripping many things from the modpack, most noticeably textures...
Is anyone else missing the alternate mine options (vein and such)? Perhaps they simply aren't in the pack?
The Chop Wood image when selecting a tree is also missing.
Quote from: Nanao-kun on October 04, 2015, 01:06:42 AM
Is anyone else missing the alternate mine options (vein and such)? Perhaps they simply aren't in the pack?
The Chop Wood image when selecting a tree is also missing.
Err.. ops
When making the gent pack I took the vienminer out of the file... forgot to put it back... fix soon!!!
As for the tree symbol, that was in the original UOM, I reported to Nine and he said he couldn't repo it. I experience it too and I'm unaware of its cuase...
Sheesh you people... why do you keep pointing out the things I do wrong...
Uploaded fix.
Quote from: TheGentlmen (GENT) on October 04, 2015, 01:23:58 AM
Sheesh you people... why do you keep pointing out the things I do wrong...
But if we don't, you'll become complacent and stop improving! :P
Sucks too see nine go. He did a lot of great work even though others made the mods he did do a lot of work putting them together. Out of all the versions and alphas I don't think I had 1 bug from his modpacks if there was they were fixed very fast. Stuff happens though, glad someone is picking this up!
Quote from: Nanao-kun on October 04, 2015, 01:20:09 PM
Quote from: TheGentlmen (GENT) on October 04, 2015, 01:23:58 AM
Sheesh you people... why do you keep pointing out the things I do wrong...
But if we don't, you'll become complacent and stop improving! :P
But I'm sopoused to be workin' on the new version... not fixing the things I do wrong in the old :P
You can pooint out all the thing all you want when the new version comes out.. which is a long way away...
1&2- Check compatabilites & Fix Incompatibilities <---Here
3- Make Research Web mod
4- Make charts for it
5- Add stuff to help section
6- Contact Youtubers for tutorial & simular
7- Setup GIT
8- Make graphic stuff, like logos
9- Format Fourm
Like its just so far away...
Hello mr Gentleman :)
I have a small question. Will you be balancing the various things from the diffrent mods you use? like the stats of some weapons compared to others? or pieces of armor or things like that. By balancing i mean balancing them in the context of your mod, or are you forbidden by the various contributors of said "stuff" to do so ?
Quote from: Wild Card on October 04, 2015, 02:52:48 PM
Hello mr Gentleman :)
I have a small question. Will you be balancing the various things from the diffrent mods you use? like the stats of some weapons compared to others? or pieces of armor or things like that. By balancing i mean balancing them in the context of your mod, or are you forbidden by the various contributors of said "stuff" to do so ?
Currently the only building I add are a doormat, snow machine, soil, bones maker thingy and a mini reactor... theirs not much to balance really. The rest are all UI enchantments and other minor things...
If I need to balance I am allowed by the molders, although Alstiare requires me to list the changes for his mod that shouldn't be a problem.
Mostly i mean weapons and apparel ;)
You have inherited a monster task there.
I have only been playing rimworld cause of this modpack. As it wasn't finished (was waiting for mipens bots), i haven't even played the Alpha 12 at all yet.
I do hope you can get a modpack up and running that may be a worthy replacement. Quite bummed that i may have to wait even longer now till i get to see the A12 version.
Really hope you may include mipens mods, as for me those bots were amazing ;).
Would say for me the best mods of the old pack have been the bots, the advanced power generators from bunkertech (at least i think bunktertech added them?), the enclosures from eazy defence, and the glitterworld stuff.
You mentioned it is a restart, and that you will keep the overall number of mods lower. Curious to learn what your selection will be. I for sure loved the old pack, and am sad that things went the way they went.
I don't use UOP and I'd probably won't use TheGentlePack either, but I just want to wish you better luck, TheGentlmen. I have it in good authority that TheGentlePack is hard :D Yes, I saw that post in the locked thread.
Good luck with your project man. I hope it goes well, I'll likely play it as long as prepare carefully is included and I can start with 5 cybernetic advanced androids xD (I like to cheat apparently :P)
The king is dead long live the king! :o
Good luck to you sir, i look forward to your hard work o7
Here is a link for a bunch of patch files aswell as the latest UOP up to 29/09
(EDIT) -Snip- (Edit)
Quote from: coolmoo on October 06, 2015, 02:54:38 PM
Here is a link for a bunch of patch files aswell as the latest UOP up to 29/09
--SNIP--
Oh my...
Quote3- Make Research Web mod
4- Make charts for it
5- Add stuff to help section
6- Contact Youtubers for tutorial & simular
7- Setup GIT
8- Make graphic stuff, like logos
9- Format Fourm
none of this is really important. we want a mod pack so we don't have to manually merge every mod together ourselves. don't break your back doing something that will be glanced at once and forgotten about.
it should take you a week or so to have up what people want. prioritize!
I also added the 27/09 Version before this war began I believe? If you need any more help I have versions all the way back till 21/09 sadly that was when i first fell in love with it so i didn't get any of the older ones but hey at least we got most of it right xD
Quote from: Probe1 on October 06, 2015, 07:58:18 PM
Quote3- Make Research Web mod
4- Make charts for it
5- Add stuff to help section
6- Contact Youtubers for tutorial & simular
7- Setup GIT
8- Make graphic stuff, like logos
9- Format Fourm
none of this is really important. we want a mod pack so we don't have to manually merge every mod together ourselves. don't break your back doing something that will be glanced at once and forgotten about.
it should take you a week or so to have up what people want. prioritize!
Well... Then DAT meens I could release it now.
But I won't. Any noob could release it like dis. I want to make something new. A.k.a. I will make the Research Web mod. After that I'll consider if I release or not.
Edit: RWeb mod is not minor. It will NOT be overglanced. It IS gonna be like SC. If you do over glance you won't find my MP fun. You'll have missed dozens of tables of a ton of researches.
Quote from: coolmoo on October 06, 2015, 08:27:47 PM
I also added the 27/09 Version before this war began I believe? If you need any more help I have versions all the way back till 21/09 sadly that was when i first fell in love with it so i didn't get any of the older ones but hey at least we got most of it right xD
Nah, its fine.
I really don't like this part of my role as an administrator but the link you've provided links to a version of the modpack that breaks rule 4 of the mod release rules.
You have 24 hours to resolve this by either obtaining permission to use the mods included, or moving the unlicensed mods from the modpack.
Quote from: ItchyFlea on October 08, 2015, 08:46:32 AM
I really don't like this part of my role as an administrator but the link you've provided links to a version of the modpack that breaks rule 4 of the mod release rules.
You have 24 hours to resolve this by either obtaining permission to use the mods included, or moving the unlicensed mods from the modpack.
Done.
Take your time and leaves us stable job Gent!
Thank you Gent for doing the UOP Rebooted! I just wish it would be finished now and not in a few months ;)
I´m still sad it had to end this way. Nine as his modpack made up a large portion of why I loved this game so much. The re playability was endless and I probably spent over 100 hours using his mod pack. And all the work he put into making everything work together, it´s just so sad... :(
I'm oddly hype about the research web. Webs mean spiders! We get to be spiders! Nonlinear dynamic spiders!
spiders
Quote from: NuclearStudent on October 10, 2015, 06:20:47 PM
I'm oddly hype about the research web. Webs mean spiders! We get to be spiders! Nonlinear dynamic spiders!
spiders
Lol. You get no spiders. :)
No Spiders, Burn Spiders With FIRE!!!!!
So dear TheGentlmen,
I want to ask when we actually can back to play a rimworld with the good modpack again? Because no mod packs to play except crappy and bugged hardcore SK.
Current goal is Dec 31, 2015.
You can see the progress here:
https://gitlab.com/RimGentzCo/TheGentzPack-Main/milestones/2
Gits cleared the modpack out. At this pace expect it by feb at the latest.
You can get the dev build now. Full release scheduled for sometime in Feb.
So the research web mod is the new Superior Crafting? It worried me a bit when I can't find SCA in your mods list. I always think SCA is kinds of the core of UOM that link every other mods together.
Take your time to get everything on your list done and quality up to your bar, since you will get huge pressure once you release it. ;D Everyone can still play the old UOM and A13 won't drop any time soon, so we'll be fine.
Thanks for picking up where Ninefingers (he will be missed) left, and good luck with your modding.
Well goodbye for awhile then, Rimworld. Ultimate was the only reason i came back. i come to install NINEFINGER'S UOP, only to find it is not here. Good luck with modding and and I'm sorry to see such a great thing go. Lets hope the creator of this game can incorporate some of the great mods into the full game. Good luck with this endeavor.
Quote from: StinkyFinger91 on October 18, 2015, 07:59:09 AM
Well goodbye for awhile then, Rimworld. Ultimate was the only reason i came back. i come to install NINEFINGER'S UOP, only to find it is not here. Good luck with modding and and I'm sorry to see such a great thing go. Lets hope the creator of this game can incorporate some of the great mods into the full game. Good luck with this endeavor.
But bro, you an use Gent's dev build, which is almost the same as 9fin's UOP!
Quote from: NuclearStudent on October 18, 2015, 01:02:44 PM
Quote from: StinkyFinger91 on October 18, 2015, 07:59:09 AM
Well goodbye for awhile then, Rimworld. Ultimate was the only reason i came back. i come to install NINEFINGER'S UOP, only to find it is not here. Good luck with modding and and I'm sorry to see such a great thing go. Lets hope the creator of this game can incorporate some of the great mods into the full game. Good luck with this endeavor.
But bro, you an use Gent's dev build, which is almost the same as 9fin's UOP!
Nope, it ain't. The Dev build is miles away.
Is the build which you can download from Github without any errors?
Quote from: losinator501 on October 18, 2015, 03:25:12 PM
Is the build which you can download from Github without any errors?
You can get it from Gitlab under the develop branch.
In its current state its buggy, unfinished and unbalance. I'll be honest and tell you that you shouldn't lets play it in its current state.
Quote from: TheGentlmen (GENT) on October 18, 2015, 03:46:24 PM
Quote from: losinator501 on October 18, 2015, 03:25:12 PM
Is the build which you can download from Github without any errors?
You can get it from Gitlab under the develop branch.
In its current state its buggy, unfinished and unbalance. I'll be honest and tell you that you shouldn't lets play it in its current state.
What about 'Let's Drunk' s?
Question if we find anything that looks buggy that isnt on your github want us to report it or just enjoy playing it like i am so far :P
Quote from: coolmoo on October 18, 2015, 06:42:29 PM
Question if we find anything that looks buggy that isnt on your github want us to report it or just enjoy playing it like i am so far :P
GITLAB... aug... :)
Yes, please do report. My testing ain't exactly good.
Zug Zug!
Hell yeah! Can't wait for this.
Hey GENT,
great to see you working on this Project.
I'm really curious to see what you're mixing together ;).
Greetings from Germany
Love it! Thank you and please keep working on it :)
Quote from: Sinza on October 28, 2015, 09:25:53 AM
Hey GENT,
great to see you working on this Project.
I'm really curious to see what you're mixing together ;).
Greetings from Germany
Quote from: Ekko on October 28, 2015, 06:06:13 PM
Love it! Thank you and please keep working on it :)
Quote from: illmatix on October 27, 2015, 03:47:50 PM
Hell yeah! Can't wait for this.
Ty.
On a thurver note, 1.1 is out.
Install instructions and stuff:
GentzPack Modpack. V1.1 A12
Install: Extract everything under 'Mods/'. Download and install the latest CCL user release. Run 'SetModConfig.bat'. HUZZA!
Versioning System: VX.Y A(Z)
X= Major, even meens stable build, odd meens dev build Y= Minor, Minor/hotfixes Z= Alpha, every new alpha X and Z reset to 0
Hello mr Gent
Just curious , are you planning on adding Shizny`s mods to the pack, like Aparello, and the faction packs ?
Quote from: Wild Card on November 01, 2015, 05:13:35 PM
Hello mr Gent
Just curious , are you planning on adding Shizny`s mods to the pack, like Aparello, and the faction packs ?
Project Armory and Apparelo is no. They cuase too much lag when spawning pawns.
Faction probably.
Been awhile since I've been here, kinda took a break after the all of Nine's stuff disappeared and I decided to google Ultimate Overhaul (Finding this.)
Its nice to know Project Armory and Apparelo are getting the axe, as they added way too much clutter and lag to the pack. As a note to this, are you planning on adding any weapon mods to mitigate the removal of PA? I know there were several different weapon packs in UOM, but I can't remember all of them.
Also, forgive me for not reading through everything, but are you going to do a similar sourcing style to what ninefinger did? IE: Listing all mods and providing links to said mods on one of the original postings / reserved spots? It was really nice to have them all in one location to look through.
As for the research tree, the only suggestion I had to it when Nine was still working on it was that the researches for certain things should be spread out more. The only one I can think of right now in particular is storage. IE: All storage research was locked behind Construction 4, when it would have made much more sense for the research to be staggered. I made a similar suggestion for medicine but can't remember my formatting for it aside from fixing some of the prosthetic stuff. Example Below.
Construction 2 = Storage 1
Construction 2 + Storage 1 = Storage 2
ect.
EDIT:
Oh wow, I only have this post because all of the ones I made on the old page were removed, I look like a newcomer now lol.
Quote from: WinterFlare on November 01, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
Been awhile since I've been here, kinda took a break after the all of Nine's stuff disappeared and I decided to google Ultimate Overhaul (Finding this.)
Ooo... googles leads to me? Cool...
Quote from: WinterFlare on November 01, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
Its nice to know Project Armory and Apparelo are getting the axe, as they added way too much clutter and lag to the pack. As a note to this, are you planning on adding any weapon mods to mitigate the removal of PA? I know there were several different weapon packs in UOM, but I can't remember all of them.
I'll be getting something like Rimsenal or Rimfire. Not something major, or huge. Currently leeing to getting Rimsenal then getting NIA to patch it for me... he did offer a patch for PA, so I'm sure he will do a patch for something smaller. Anyways, not now, but soon (TM).
Quote from: WinterFlare on November 01, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
Also, forgive me for not reading through everything, but are you going to do a similar sourcing style to what ninefinger did? IE: Listing all mods and providing links to said mods on one of the original postings / reserved spots? It was really nice to have them all in one location to look through.
Yes, but on stable release (V2.0 A12). Soon(TM)
Quote from: WinterFlare on November 01, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
As for the research tree, the only suggestion I had to it when Nine was still working on it was that the researches for certain things should be spread out more. The only one I can think of right now in particular is storage. IE: All storage research was locked behind Construction 4, when it would have made much more sense for the research to be staggered. I made a similar suggestion for medicine but can't remember my formatting for it aside from fixing some of the prosthetic stuff. Example Below.
Construction 2 = Storage 1
Construction 2 + Storage 1 = Storage 2
ect.
I don't plan to have generic things like 'Consturction 1', but instead small researches for each building, forming a web (So you could go to things throu multiple paths to get something, kinda like whatz in the latest CIV.) Then have each research have minor researches going off of em (Like for example a powered smelter only smelt steal bars unwell you unlock the minor research 'Plaster smelting' or something.).
Quote from: WinterFlare on November 01, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
EDIT:
Oh wow, I only have this post because all of the ones I made on the old page were removed, I look like a newcomer now lol.
Heh... lol.
Quote from: TheGentlmen (GENTZ /'jen(t)z/) on November 01, 2015, 05:41:04 PM
Quote from: Wild Card on November 01, 2015, 05:13:35 PM
Hello mr Gent
Just curious , are you planning on adding Shizny`s mods to the pack, like Aparello, and the faction packs ?
Project Armory and Apparelo is no. They cuase too much lag when spawning pawns.
Oooh, so that's why raids always froze the game for a few seconds in UOP.
My main problem with the pack was Nine introducing too many crafting gates instead of sticking to raw materials. Basically all of the guns in the game were changed to a new system that required loads of crafting instead of using raw materials, and he was going to extend it to everything else when crafting already took way too much time.
His system went like this:
Steel Ore > Steel Bar
Copper Ore > Copper Bar > Copper Wire
Steel Bar + Copper Wire > Gun Parts
Gun Parts > Gun of Choice.
Copper Wire was also introduced to most electronic, lighting, and power systems, which with the limited early game storage options (and PA/ Apperalo filling every storage cell) made base creation difficult, considering it was a non-high stack item. (75 instead of 250-500)
Basically as I understand it, he was steering it towards Hardcore SK where crafting takes forever instead of focusing on bug fixes and compatibility issues.
My question with this, is that once you fix the research tree, are you going to revert this change, or keep it. My issue wasn't as much with the Copper being introduced as much as it was the guns being increasingly difficult to craft (along with primitive weapons needing to be researched before you could get ahold of them), which made zero sense to me. I also found that bludgeoning people to death with sticks/logs was more effective than crafting clubs / shivs / anything from the primitive table.
TL:DR, Are you going to tone down the focus on crafting, and as a side note, will being able to craft primitive weapons IE: Bows, arrows, and clubs, be easier?
Quote from: WinterFlare on November 05, 2015, 07:38:43 PM
My main problem with the pack was Nine introducing too many crafting gates instead of sticking to raw materials. Basically all of the guns in the game were changed to a new system that required loads of crafting instead of using raw materials, and he was going to extend it to everything else when crafting already took way too much time.
His system went like this:
Steel Ore > Steel Bar
Copper Ore > Copper Bar > Copper Wire
Steel Bar + Copper Wire > Gun Parts
Gun Parts > Gun of Choice.
Copper Wire was also introduced to most electronic, lighting, and power systems, which with the limited early game storage options (and PA/ Apperalo filling every storage cell) made base creation difficult, considering it was a non-high stack item. (75 instead of 250-500)
Basically as I understand it, he was steering it towards Hardcore SK where crafting takes forever instead of focusing on bug fixes and compatibility issues.
My question with this, is that once you fix the research tree, are you going to revert this change, or keep it. My issue wasn't as much with the Copper being introduced as much as it was the guns being increasingly difficult to craft (along with primitive weapons needing to be researched before you could get ahold of them), which made zero sense to me. I also found that bludgeoning people to death with sticks/logs was more effective than crafting clubs / shivs / anything from the primitive table.
TL:DR, Are you going to tone down the focus on crafting, and as a side note, will being able to craft primitive weapons IE: Bows, arrows, and clubs, be easier?
I'll change steel to generic metal then do this:
Metal Ore > Metal Bar
Oil > Plastic + Synth Fibre
Metal Bar + Synth Fibre > High Grade Metal Alloy (HGMA)
Metal Bar + Plastic > Low Grade Plassteal (LGP)
LGP + HGMA > Plassteel.A.k.a a total of 7 resources, should be manageable, and certainly toned down relative too HCSK. If it becomes to hard, I'll tone it down some more, only time will tell...
As for primitive weapons, they'll be made around a fireplace, with your grass/mud wallz and hunting grounds... basically I plan to make you as primitive as ze tribalz ;D
Edit: Lets not think too far ahead, I still got many things to do... like getting weapons to work with CR...
PS: I'm lookin' at you, NIA... soon you'll have a list of weapons/turrets to make compatible..
The biggest thing with it was probably storage and the crafting time / ratios at which things were crafted, you'd have people working around the clock cutting clothing into textile strips, or you would have them making batches of 10 materials at a time when they could easily double that and not have to run around your base as much to drop it off over and over again.
IE: They would make 20 steel and 20 copper into 10 gun parts or something.
I'm just voicing my concerns as how the pack handled before so it doesn't get ridiculous this time around. It seems like it was made in mind for colonies that had no problems with defence and 10-20 people managing it, but I tended to keep my colonies small, and I'd rarely have turrets running.
For version 1.1, the Turret Collection is included, but has no spot on the modconfig. Is it not supposed to be used? Also, are the CCL Vanilla Tweaks unnecessary?
Quote from: WinterFlare on November 05, 2015, 10:11:25 PM
The biggest thing with it was probably storage and the crafting time / ratios at which things were crafted, you'd have people working around the clock cutting clothing into textile strips, or you would have them making batches of 10 materials at a time when they could easily double that and not have to run around your base as much to drop it off over and over again.
IE: They would make 20 steel and 20 copper into 10 gun parts or something.
I'm just voicing my concerns as how the pack handled before so it doesn't get ridiculous this time around. It seems like it was made in mind for colonies that had no problems with defence and 10-20 people managing it, but I tended to keep my colonies small, and I'd rarely have turrets running.
Hehehe... You guys gonna have REAL trouble with defence by V6 at the late-ist...
Quote from: Nanao-kun on November 05, 2015, 11:04:40 PM
For version 1.1, the Turret Collection is included, but has no spot on the modconfig. Is it not supposed to be used?
Yes, their not sopoused to be active... you
could activate it, but it doesn't use the CR bullets and stuff...
Quote from: Nanao-kun on November 05, 2015, 11:04:40 PM
Also, are the CCL Vanilla Tweaks unnecessary?
Nay. You shouldn't have em'
Edit: Speeking of CR, could anyone go thou all the weapons and see which ones don't use CR? It would save me a stupendous amount of time...
Quote from: TheGentlmen (GENTZ /'jen(t)z/) on November 05, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
Quote from: Nanao-kun on November 05, 2015, 11:04:40 PM
For version 1.1, the Turret Collection is included, but has no spot on the modconfig. Is it not supposed to be used?
Yes, their not sopoused to be active... you could activate it, but it doesn't use the CR bullets and stuff...
Edit: Speeking of CR, could anyone go thou all the weapons and see which ones don't use CR? It would save me a stupendous amount of time...
It's easy to see which thingDefs don't use CombatRealism (CR) classes since the large amounts of text added through the comps CR requires are easily spotted in the text file. Turret Collection (TC) could be made into a CR mod by mimicking CR Defense which adds turrets of its own - granted I don't know whether TC uses custom ThingClasses and such.
Quote from: Alistaire on November 06, 2015, 03:42:26 AM
Quote from: TheGentlmen (GENTZ /'jen(t)z/) on November 05, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
Quote from: Nanao-kun on November 05, 2015, 11:04:40 PM
For version 1.1, the Turret Collection is included, but has no spot on the modconfig. Is it not supposed to be used?
Yes, their not sopoused to be active... you could activate it, but it doesn't use the CR bullets and stuff...
Edit: Speeking of CR, could anyone go thou all the weapons and see which ones don't use CR? It would save me a stupendous amount of time...
It's easy to see which thingDefs don't use CombatRealism (CR) classes since the large amounts of text added through the comps CR requires are easily spotted in the text file. Turret Collection (TC) could be made into a CR mod by mimicking CR Defense which adds turrets of its own - granted I don't know whether TC uses custom ThingClasses and such.
I'll see when I'm done with wallz... which should be today or tommorow.
what are the differences between this modpack and the modvarietypack? the content for both seemed vaguely described so just want to know what content there is between these :P
Edit: I know both are being worked on and having more added over time, just curious to know which to go with for the time being :)
Quote from: deadlydullahan on November 09, 2015, 10:20:45 PM
what are the differences between this modpack and the modvarietypack?
This modpack is mine, the other one belongs to Simon... ;)
Quote from: deadlydullahan on November 09, 2015, 10:20:45 PM
The content for both seemed vaguely described so just want to know what content there is between these :P
This is a bunch of mods I like crammed together with no care for balance... then I'm grabbing rolls of ducktape and spending 2+ weeks on just wallz...
Top notch prioritization... :P
Quote from: deadlydullahan on November 09, 2015, 10:20:45 PM
Edit: I know both are being worked on and having more added over time, just curious to know which to go with for the time being :)
Run both... it will be !FUN!...
Df fun... but instead my bugs kill ya... ;D
Seriously tho... MINES BETTER.... why? Cuase it has mah name on it... 8)
K... mabey not... just try both, see what ya enjoy... report a few bugs... make me proud...
Quote from: deadlydullahan on November 09, 2015, 10:20:45 PM
what are the differences between this modpack and the modvarietypack? the content for both seemed vaguely described so just want to know what content there is between these :P
Edit: I know both are being worked on and having more added over time, just curious to know which to go with for the time being :)
obvious one is the modvariety pack is playable.
As gentz say, his bugs will kill you.
I am having trouble getting the Gentz pack to work. I put all the mods in the mods folder, then ran the .bat file. I don't know what CCL is. When I try to run the game it says the mods are for a different version of the game or corrupted and they get automatically disabled. Also I read that I should overwrite anything but I'm starting with a fresh install of the game. Am I supposed to have the old UOP first?
Yeah I spent an hour or so trying to get this pack to work and couldn't get anything going.
Had exactly the same issue as you.
Using the mystical search function and searching for CCL would after a little scrolling get you the ccl fourm post...
Huh... have people really become this lazy?
Anyways:
TGP IS POWERED BY:
(http://tinyurl.com/pd78ovl)
(https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16599.0)
(PIC IS LINK... duh...)
Community Core Library is required, and downloaded from the CCL link.
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16599.0
MY EYES
Seriously, why do people on this forums suck so bad at creating a post that is simple, informative, and isn't obnoxious?
Quote from: Makropony on November 23, 2015, 07:29:53 AM
MY EYES
Seriously, why do people on this forums suck so bad at creating a post that is simple, informative, and isn't obnoxious?
Love the color scheme? I plan to make EVERYTHING using it.... Your eyes will be safe with me!
I disabled the crash landing mod and played a few hours only to realize that doing so broke the smooth walls mod (the button never shows up after researching stonecutting). Enabling crash landing fixes the missing button but then all this free stuff falls from the sky and quadruples my wealth. No thanks, I'll keep playing with it disabled but who knows what else is borked.
It would be nice if crash landing was optional. Thanks for your hard work!
Quote from: Brofius on November 24, 2015, 04:22:07 PM
I disabled the crash landing mod and played a few hours only to realize that doing so broke the smooth walls mod (the button never shows up after researching stonecutting). Enabling crash landing fixes the missing button but then all this free stuff falls from the sky and quadruples my wealth. No thanks, I'll keep playing with it disabled but who knows what else is borked.
It would be nice if crash landing was optional. Thanks for your hard work!
Odd. Are you aware of what version your using?
Edit: Also could you check to see ya have the latest CCL?
And upload the outlog when CL is removed.
And after removing CL from ingame could you please run the GetModconfig.bat and upload the Modconfig.xml file?Tested on latest Feature Branch, worked fine after removing CL.
Try updating CCL and removing CL from the in-game menu, not tho the modconfig bat stuff.
If that doesn't work, try grabbing off the latest commit on the feture branch. I don't think it will help you since I haven't touched CL or Smothwalls, but maybe.
If that doesn't work, use the 'grabmodconfig.bat' and them upload the 'modconfig.xml' under 'mods\'. Then upload the outlog (not a screenshot of it).
Ps: Photo of me getting it to work with no CL:
(http://s12.postimg.org/qgay1vgjd/Screenshot_223.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qgay1vgjd/full)
I'm using CCL v0.12.4 and your semi-stable V1.1_A12. If disabling CL worked fine for you then I must have screwed up something on my end, i'll re-download everything and try on a clean install. TY
EDIT: Re-installing fixed my issue. I just saw the line in your main post in angry colors which said "ANY/ALL ISSUE YOUR GETTING IS DUE TO A FAULTY INSTALL."
I'm enjoying ze pak
Quote from: Brofius on November 25, 2015, 02:32:00 AM
I'm using CCL v0.12.4 and your semi-stable V1.1_A12. If disabling CL worked fine for you then I must have screwed up something on my end, i'll re-download everything and try on a clean install. TY
EDIT: Re-installing fixed my issue. I just saw the line in your main post in angry colors which said "ANY/ALL ISSUE YOUR GETTING IS DUE TO A FAULTY INSTALL."
I'm enjoying ze pak
Heh... well enjoy!
Quote from: Makropony on November 23, 2015, 07:29:53 AM
MY EYES
Seriously, why do people on this forums suck so bad at creating a post that is simple, informative, and isn't obnoxious?
I couldn't agree more.
Sorry "TheGentlmen (GENTZ /'jen(t)z/)" but it's well... see for yourself.
I guess most use the default theme though, but even then, why so large.
I know.. I know.. .if I don't like it... blah blah.. but just trying to point out that it really doesn't need to be so 90's :)
(http://i.imgur.com/mE9QbrT.png)
Quote from: FX2K on November 29, 2015, 10:35:24 AM
Quote from: Makropony on November 23, 2015, 07:29:53 AM
MY EYES
Seriously, why do people on this forums suck so bad at creating a post that is simple, informative, and isn't obnoxious?
I couldn't agree more.
Sorry "TheGentlmen (GENTZ /'jen(t)z/)" but it's well... see for yourself.
I guess most use the default theme though, but even then, why so large.
>>I've shrunken it down. Ps: I didn't know their was other themes o_0
I know.. I know.. .if I don't like it... blah blah.. but just trying to point out that it really doesn't need to be so 90's :)
>>But the 90's were cool-ish!
[img]http://i.imgur.com/mE9QbrT.png[ /img]
Just for the record, you're using an outdated version of quick start that spews out more debug messages than it should. (works perfectly fine tho).
Quote from: Fluffy (l2032) on November 30, 2015, 04:22:41 AM
Just for the record, you're using an outdated version of quick start that spews out more debug messages than it should. (works perfectly fine tho).
Ty.
Edit: Seems like I got the latest on the feature branch.
Sorry to bump a dead post but any word Gent? I am cool with waiting for your pack but just curious.
Got bored, moved on. Oh well.
On the other hand, I recommend MVP. They've done almost everything I either wanted and better!
Gentlemen I can't find anywhere to contact you, so I tried here. Sorry for bumping an old post.
I have had the same error as this guy
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=17099.15
For over a year and it has destroyed my will to play. Recently I found the above thread where you fixed this guys problem. The link you sent to him has expired and I have no way of getting the two bat files you were talking about. Is there anyway you still had that link or file? I'm desperate. Thanks in advance.