Transgender discrimination in pharmacy access rights (rights to have
drugs provided solely by a transgender representative) and some
immigrants being deemed transgender illiterate deviants according to
psychological evaluations?
That may depend on who gets elected this fall in the USA. :P
Next : "Right" for any store-clerk to refuse to serve gay, less or trans do stuff against their religion ?
LGBT being preemptively considered as multi-recidivist sex-criminal for safety ?
Tax for LGBT people to finance some "increased medical expense" ?
Obligation for couple with Children-care job to conform to Gender-role "Husband and submissive Wife" nuclear-family ?
Requirement for any women whishing to abort to get 10 costly medical check-up and husband authorization ?
Recent news clearly demonstrated that some bigot will actually try to pass laws like that under an obscure forms
My guess would be the legalization of pedophilia, sadly, somewhere down the road will be pushed
Theres already "discussions" about how it is "normal" and how "they are just attracted to something different than you".
This would be horrific if it would happen, mind, and not many will even want to admit this is possible. But, there's already discussions, similar to the ones in the 90s around gays
Also keg, what? Laws, and federal pushes for this are completely going against what you are saying. SC is a minority for its bathroom law against trans, and they get MAD pressure not to do it. Paypal leaving, NBA leaving, tourism, ect (I really should travel there though, for this reason)
Though to be honest, there's evidence supporting most of those actually beneficial...besides the expensive medical check ups, but getting husband consent I think makes PERFECT sense. Its a decision by 2 people to make it (unless rape) so getting rid of it should be too.
So the solution would be to have non-gendered bathrooms.
Or to not give a fuck .. women bathrooms are a question of safety and hygene for women.
And since there are only stalls anyway, who cares. If it looks like a woman he/she/it should go to a womens bathroom.
If he/she/it messes up the place he/she/it is an asshole. This holds true for male and female bathrooms.
And concerning Laws. Anything that gives Religions or Gender Issues a grip in politics is wrong.
In my oppinion both are nothing more than freedom of speech. You are allowed to have them and express them while everybody else is allowed to disagree with you.
If your job brings you to a point where this issues affects the job you are doing you may have the wrong job.
This is true for every job. No matter if you are a Politician, Priest or Gasstation Clerk.
I do suppose those bathrooms could work, possibly, but more likely in an armed society...armed society is a polite society.
In Texas, it just got (temporarily?) prevented
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/23/us/transgender-bathroom-access-guidelines-blocked-by-judge.html?_r=0
I saw that, thank god.... Hope its permanent. way too many issues with it, and really, transition is a CHOICE, unlike race. No amount of wishing I was another race would make me another race =)
Pff... the bigot are getting desperate. All they can do is throw spanners in the working of democracy to prevent progress because they know nobody would support their baseless hates & dogma. If we let ultraconservative impose their rules, slavery and skin-color discrimination would still be a things and womens would be second-class citizen (if not property) only good to be "mama role model".
You simply can't pretend to protect freedom and Human right's if you discriminate based on social dogma disconnected from reality.
It's just a shame America can be short-circuited by unelected bureaucrat. Like the global-warming negationism, everything that need to be done will happen to late to save the planet.
Another stupid "What's next ?"
-> religious judge will claim that transgender shouldn't be allowed to wear clothes not made for their birth-gender
or
-> religious judge will claim that transgender shouldn't be allowed to get surgery that make them look something else than their birth-gender
that or some religious fuck will claim that rape can't happen within marriage and that women can't abort at all without her husband approval.
Well someone should remind them of the seperation of state and church. ( thats at least on paper in most democratic countries )
IMHO decissions based on the religion of the deciding party should be instantly dismissed and the party be removed from office.
Or else the opposing party should be allowed to invoke the invisible flying spaghetti monster to support their own claim. ( to bad it is still no official religion .. )
Never really understood why it was a big deal to begin with. People who were trans were and already are using what ever rest room they want. This law was meant to prevent discrimination against less than 1% of the total pop.
Quote from: KillTyrant on August 24, 2016, 09:50:05 PM
Never really understood why it was a big deal to begin with. People who were trans were and already are using what ever rest room they want. This law was meant to prevent discrimination against less than 1% of the total pop.
The big deal is that
"Creating a problem where there was none" is what the North-Carolina law-maker try to do.
They knew they would get no support saying "Transgender are to be considered as sex criminal and discriminated against", so they phrased it another way "We (pretend to) want to protect women and will do so in a way that make Transgender life hellish by implying they are hiding sex criminal".
It doesn't matter if it doesn't actually reduce crime, all that matter for them is that they look like the one trying to prevent crime and that Transgender get bashed in the process.
Furthermore,
Even if it's ridiculously impossible to enforce their anti-trans law (scanner in front of every toilet), they know that if they managed to add a law they could pass other discriminatory laws based on "a law that exist, so it must be working".
Quote from: Kegereneku on August 25, 2016, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: KillTyrant on August 24, 2016, 09:50:05 PM
Never really understood why it was a big deal to begin with. People who were trans were and already are using what ever rest room they want. This law was meant to prevent discrimination against less than 1% of the total pop.
The big deal is that "Creating a problem where there was none" is what the North-Carolina law-maker try to do.
They knew they would get no support saying "Transgender are to be considered as sex criminal and discriminated against", so they phrased it another way "We (pretend to) want to protect women and will do so in a way that make Transgender life hellish by implying they are hiding sex criminal".
It doesn't matter if it doesn't actually reduce crime, all that matter for them is that they look like the one trying to prevent crime and that Transgender get bashed in the process.
Furthermore,
Even if it's ridiculously impossible to enforce their anti-trans law (scanner in front of every toilet), they know that if they managed to add a law they could pass other discriminatory laws based on "a law that exist, so it must be working".
So you agree with me that its not a big deal. Im not sure if you are arguing with me becauss you misunderstood my point or if you are trying to pick apart my chosen turn of phase. If its the latter than I dont really care for pedantic arguments based on personal interpretation.
when i was a kid, i used to fantasize about pamela anderson, like putting her inside a sack and then running away towards the sunset beach.. so if she suddenly teleported in front of me wearing a lifeguard swimsuit bikini, i would've totally banged her 24/7 if she'd let me.
but in a hypocritical society, old folks would've labeled me as a "victim" and if pamela anderson would've allowed me to bang her, they'd call her a pedophile and get her banhammered for life.
what a silly world we live in.
Quote from: keylocke on August 26, 2016, 02:23:21 AM
when i was a kid, i used to fantasize about pamela anderson, like putting her inside a sack and then running away towards the sunset beach.. so if she suddenly teleported in front of me wearing a lifeguard swimsuit bikini, i would've totally banged her 24/7 if she'd let me.
but in a hypocritical society, old folks would've labeled me as a "victim" and if pamela anderson would've allowed me to bang her, they'd call her a pedophile and get her banhammered for life.
what a silly world we live in.
3 things.
First. Cool Story Bro
Second. Did you still your "dream" from Borat?
Third. How in the heck does that statement even relate to the OP's question?
i'd say borat stole it from me (no, not literally. duh). but i really did fantasize about pamela anderson (among many other females like demi moore or winona ryder) when i was a kid. coz that is sexy, shabadadoo.
but the sack thing was indeed a borat reference.
secondly, my reply was about mumblemumble's earlier statement. just as your reply was about my post, which also has nothing to do with the OP. (it's a minor tangent of convo. like in a party where a bunch of guests are talking about sports and another bunch decided to talk about pokemon go.. but they're all attending the same party. multitasking and stuffses)
also, just as the title says : "what's next?" <---- that is a pretty open-ended topic. i could throw in cannibalism instead of burial to solve world hunger, and i don't think it would be "off topic"
tru story.
Quote from: KillTyrant on August 25, 2016, 08:38:41 PM
So you agree with me that its not a big deal. Im not sure if you are arguing with me becauss you misunderstood my point or if you are trying to pick apart my chosen turn of phase. If its the latter than I dont really care for pedantic arguments based on personal interpretation.
I'm not being against you, I was just sharing what I consider to be the "bigger deal" in the whole conundrum because you phrased it like a question.
Just to be clear :
- I don't consider a big deal that moron tried to pass an anti-constitutional and inapplicable law against transgender. Morons happen, it was going to be reversed at the highest level.
- What is a much bigger deal is the way they passed it on the fly and the way they hide their true anti-LGBT agenda.
So, sorry if you felt I was telling you are wrong on this.
Quote from: keylocke on August 26, 2016, 10:45:31 PM
also, just as the title says : "what's next?" <---- that is a pretty open-ended topic. i could throw in cannibalism instead of burial to solve world hunger, and i don't think it would be "off topic"
Well, myself I took the "What's next?" as in "What's the next stupid & unacceptable laws that will try to pass" but I do think you can have it as "What's the next laws/debate that will force us to redefine our moral quadrant ?" easily.
Cannibalism actually sound like a reasonable and practical idea. As long as the meat is well cooked (since virus wouldn't even have to jump species), but I'm no nutritionist, maybe making fertilizer would be a better idea. [/serious business]