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Title: Precious weapons
Post by: Wex on August 14, 2016, 03:18:47 AM
I bought an awful silver mace for 560 silver.
I smelted it for 750.

I don't know how this works, but I'd like to know more.
As in: what awful items are worth buying?
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 14, 2016, 09:24:14 AM
Thanks, nice to know ..

Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: MisterSpock1 on August 14, 2016, 09:59:27 AM
Thx for this notification

market valua depends on the quality: http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Quality

at the least quality, its less worth than its materials.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: Wex on August 14, 2016, 11:33:26 AM
Are we talking about sculptures too? I mean, an awful gold small sculpture, still costs a lot.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 14, 2016, 11:53:29 AM
Well with 70 ingredients x 20 it would be made from 1400 gold.
I don't know how much smelting returns and if sculptures can be smelted.
But with a base market value of 15 silver we would be talkting about 21000 Bucks of Materials used.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: cultist on August 14, 2016, 01:35:16 PM
You can't smelt art, only weapons, armor and slag chunks.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 14, 2016, 01:36:54 PM
So don't buy crappy art :)

True since forever.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: Wex on August 14, 2016, 01:56:18 PM
You can dismantle though, for the same result.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 14, 2016, 02:25:03 PM
Cool, that leaves the question at which quality level it is viable to sell weapons because they are more worth than the resources used :)
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 14, 2016, 07:55:18 PM
Well I bought an awful silver spear for 778 and smelted it for 450 .. :(
not what I expected after this discussion
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: Vegtamr on August 14, 2016, 09:09:55 PM
Quote from: SpaceDorf on August 14, 2016, 07:55:18 PM
Well I bought an awful silver spear for 778 and smelted it for 450 .. :(
not what I expected after this discussion

spears -> 90 ingredients -> x20 silver = 1800 silver

when u smelt u get 1/4 -> 1800 /4 -> 450 silver :C
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 14, 2016, 09:35:09 PM
Thanks, I am just researching smithing, so I could not check ingame for myself.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: Wex on August 15, 2016, 09:27:22 AM
I bought a silver knife for 285 and got 400;
I vought a longsword for 1067 and got 1200;
I bought a silver mace for 560 and got 750.
You get 3/4 of the material.
I have a 16 social colonist doing the buying.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: cultist on August 15, 2016, 10:33:05 AM
Quote from: Wex on August 14, 2016, 01:56:18 PM
You can dismantle though, for the same result.

That's true. Although I have never tried dismantling a bought statue, I imagine it works the same way as the ones your pawns make. And unless I'm mistaken you get a good amount of materials back from dismantling, something like 3/4.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: Vegtamr on August 15, 2016, 12:30:11 PM
Quote from: Wex on August 15, 2016, 09:27:22 AM
I bought a silver knife for 285 and got 400;
I vought a longsword for 1067 and got 1200;
I bought a silver mace for 560 and got 750.
You get 3/4 of the material.
I have a 16 social colonist doing the buying.

:O, i check myself and i get 1/4 ... maybe in low difficult u get 3/4?
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: Wex on August 15, 2016, 12:44:35 PM
I play on rough, I don't really know
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 15, 2016, 01:23:07 PM
I play on Randy Extreme :) So maybe even less :)
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 15, 2016, 02:31:06 PM
So how long does the game need to notice a change in difficulty.

I did some Science with a Awefull Jade Shiv, and no matter what I did, I got a constant 25% return ( 50 Jade ).

From Phoebe Basebuilder to Randy Extreme,
Crafting Skill 6, 10, 16
Shiv Condition 86% or 100%

Nothing Mattered. 50 Jade was what I got.

I fear it may be mod related.

--- Edit ---

Quality does not matter either.

The Legendary Golden Spear I had lying around gave me 450 gold ( 25% )

Damn you skully :)
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: Wex on August 15, 2016, 03:20:44 PM
Have you any mods on? I play vanilla.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 15, 2016, 04:04:55 PM
Yup, I have. Lots of them :)
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: Vegtamr on August 15, 2016, 04:10:27 PM
I play vanilla challenge and always got 25% no matters what
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: mumblemumble on August 15, 2016, 06:40:04 PM
Considering the labor costs involved, and the need to haggle, I think this is perfectly fine and realistic...recycle plants can turn a profit for this VERY reason.
Title: Re: Precious weapons
Post by: SpaceDorf on August 16, 2016, 01:37:11 AM
Yeah, with 25 % there is no profit.
The only positive thing is, that smelting gives more ressources in silver value than selling the weapon for silver.