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RimWorld => General Discussion => Topic started by: gormack82 on December 23, 2016, 08:48:59 AM

Title: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: gormack82 on December 23, 2016, 08:48:59 AM
I've been browsing games the past few steam sales and I noticed Rimworld never joins in the sale? I'm just wondering why not.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: skullywag on December 23, 2016, 08:51:53 AM
Cuz Tynan doesnt do sales. Hes stated so in the past. Its not that it wont ever happenj ust not very likely.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: dosemeter on December 23, 2016, 09:11:59 AM
You're better off spending $30 on this than $60 on some others....trust us!  ;)
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: ChaosChronicler on December 23, 2016, 10:34:23 AM
Ludeon Studios isn't a big development or publisher like E.A or some of the other big names out there. I fully support paying full price for Rimworld or any other game from inde-developers cause the money would help grow the company. E.A and the rest already make millions so doing sales is nothing.

Also funny that I get miffed when ever I see an indie-game that's on sale
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: Lerin on December 23, 2016, 11:12:30 AM
Same crap about sales everywhere, i am ready pay another 30$, to motivate Tynan for big content DLC, this game is worth it.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: pktongrimworld on December 23, 2016, 01:17:00 PM
I got more hours out of it than .. well, I think it cost me about 0.01 cents per hour at this point.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: Tammabanana on December 23, 2016, 03:01:02 PM
Quote from: dosemeter on December 23, 2016, 09:11:59 AM
You're better off spending $30 on this than $60 on some others....trust us!  ;)

Was it really only $30? I can't remember anymore. Best $30 I've ever spent, videogamewise. Yeah, think of it as a $60 game perpetually 50% off.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: DNK on December 23, 2016, 03:41:02 PM
If he's going to do a sale, why would he do it before he's even finished the game?

There's no telling how many more alphas we have. Tynan I believe has more than enough cash now to maintain development for the foreseeable future of the process. Then there will be a major gold release. After that, I suppose, is when you would want to do sales, to pick up any potential extra customers who just wanted to give the game a chance on the cheap.

But there's little point now in doing that. The game has reached mass awareness, it's still selling well, it doesn't need a big inrush of attention.

Furthermore, there's a good principled reason to avoid sales, as it's very much a "race to the bottom" for a lot of devs. Tynan doesn't need to compete in that race at this point, and maybe it's a bit more financially advantageous to do so, but maybe he also doesn't think it's worth selling out the industry as a whole.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: Sirportalez on December 23, 2016, 06:41:52 PM
When no mans sky is on sale it costs 50. just saying.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: XeoNovaDan on December 23, 2016, 08:06:11 PM
The game's well worth the base £23 cost anyways, and even worth the £30 if you choose to go that little bit further and get the name in game pack

Besides, Ludeon doesn't get as much money if you get RimWorld through Steam compared to if you get the DRM free version
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: LordMunchkin on December 23, 2016, 10:36:45 PM
I have gotten hundreds of hours of play out of Rimworld over the years. I'm usually a bit wary about recommending indie games but I can say with confidence that this game is worth every penny. It just... works...  :D
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: Jarwy on December 24, 2016, 12:25:46 AM
I guess the real reason is that the game isn't out yet. I suppose if you had a complete lack of trust in your game you would but it on sale regardless and maybe add some DLC too while you're on it.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: mumblemumble on December 24, 2016, 05:55:01 AM
Games take money to develop, and rimworld is something special, so I dont mind. Consider the hours of fun / money spent when looking at games...most triple A games dont match rimworld when looking at it that way.

... To be honest, I wouldn't mind spending another 30 if tynan could make an original xcom type game. Looking into it, the old game was much deeper than the new ones, but its old and archaic in a few ways, and needs dosbox.

Would love to see someone redo that formula in all its depth.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: milon on December 24, 2016, 10:32:29 AM
Frankly, I don't understand the Everything Must Go On Sale consumer mindset we've built for ourselves. There are circumstances where it makes sense for a vendor to mark down a certain product, but that's at their discretion and should never (IMO) be expected/demanded by the consumers.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: niklas7737 on December 24, 2016, 10:58:58 AM
I've bought most of my games for the full price and often they went on sale shortly afterwards.
It makes me feel stupid and also gives the feeling I paid too much, since the developers don't seem to consider their game worth its price.
Nowadays when I spot something interesting on Steam, I put it on my wish-list and wait for a sale. You usually don't have to wait long for about 30-40% off.

Tynan however made it quite clear that he was not going to do such a thing, so I bought RimWorld the day it was released on Steam. I did not regret that.
Honestly, I think the price should probably increase once RimWorld is finished and never - even on sale - go down below what it is now. I might just be "selfish" though.

Warning: OffTopic  :o
Has anybody ever thought about the modders who obviously contribute so immensely to RimWorld's value? Seems strange, seeing how much money it should have made for Tynan by now.
And yes, I know he's not just bathing in dollar bills. ;D
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: Thyme on December 24, 2016, 03:18:12 PM
Quote from: niklas7737 on December 24, 2016, 10:58:58 AM
[...] since the developers don't seem to consider their game worth its price. [...]
That is exactly the reason why I don't understand sales. At all! Sales always give me the feeling that a product isn't worth the normal price. (this accounts for every product that comes to your mind: games, lettuce, furniture, wine). Wine-maker talking here: You won't ever get a sale on our wine. It's worth its price, otherwise we would sell it for less. You might get a discount if you buy often tho, but that's a different story ;)
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: viperwasp on December 24, 2016, 03:41:21 PM
If Rimworld ever goes on sale I hope it's long after the final release. But even if it never goes on sale there is nothing wrong with that. If the time comes were Rimworld is no longer bringing in any income worth while.(Years from now.) Then a sale allows more people to buy the game that may not buy it at full price. And those people who do buy it on sale will suddenly tell there friends and family about the game and then more people will buy it on sale or even at full price once the sale ends. 

So sales don't always mean that the product is not worth full price. If Tynan moves onto another game and Rimworld no longer has any updates or any real income at that time I don't see why a sale should not happen. However at the end of the day sale or not the game is obviously worth full price and it's almost always going to get new buyers for a long time to come.
Title: Re: Why this game never go on sale
Post by: BugPowderDust on December 25, 2016, 11:15:06 AM
I've had 7 emails in the last 24 hours, telling me a game on my wishlist is on sale. This is why we expect sales, because they happen a lot on Steam

I have paid full price for RW, and I'd recommend people who are undecided do the same and not wait on the off-chance it goes on sale.