Am I the only one that has noticed that Casandra gives really shit colonists? Like, 1 or 2 in crafting or art with skilled and dumb labor disabled, so effectively everything is disabled except maybe art, then they are a pacifist or have 0 in shooting/melee. I am kind of surprised no one has talked about this and also surprised no one has a made a mod that the no dumb labor/skilled labor colonists stop appearing.
I suspect it's more that you remember the really terrible colonists. I've started dozens of colonies and still remember the two or three times I've gotten truly useless people who are either social time bombs or literal time bombs.
Reverse order.
2) Those mods do exist. Seriously. Just look a little harder - you should have no trouble finding them.
1) Yes. I don't think it's just Cassandra, I think it's more of the RNG. Every colonist is good at something, usually, but it's very rare that you get one who's good at things you want them to be doing.
The terrible colonists make the story richer. There's nothing quite like crash landing with a demented, arthritic, cataract ridden, trigger-happy grandma to protect you.
I could be wrong because i haven't tested, but I also think the difficulty affects the quality of colonists you get too. I'm currently playing on Intense:Cassandra and I've certainly noticed lower quality colonists.
There are no bad colonists. There is a colony manager, who can't find a niche for them in the colony :P
Quote from: lighthoof on January 17, 2017, 02:36:27 AM
There are no bad colonists. There is a colony manager, who can't find a niche for them in the colony :P
I see your claim and raise you an Abrasive Chemical-Fascinated Pyromaniac Convent Child/Sheriff.
I haven't read a word from OP's post but I do like his use of Times New Roman.
Quote from: Trylobyte on January 17, 2017, 02:47:54 AM
Quote from: lighthoof on January 17, 2017, 02:36:27 AM
There are no bad colonists. There is a colony manager, who can't find a niche for them in the colony :P
I see your claim and raise you an Abrasive Chemical-Fascinated Pyromaniac Convent Child/Sheriff.
Even pacifist with every skill except combat ones blocked is a good use for a colony. Voluntary donor, perhaps ? :D
They all good. I used one on suicide caravan to start the war with a tribal faction. I want those raids. I'm addicted to raids.
the reason I use phobe chillax not only long break times from raid, visitors, passerbys and other events you also have better colonists
Quote from: Trylobyte on January 16, 2017, 11:55:26 PM
I suspect it's more that you remember the really terrible colonists. I've started dozens of colonies and still remember the two or three times I've gotten truly useless people who are either social time bombs or literal time bombs.
Strangely colonists I get are both social and actual time bombs, I don't trust them with guns because neurotic/nudist on ice sheet doesn't go well.
Quote from: dv on January 16, 2017, 11:55:44 PM
Reverse order.
2) Those mods do exist. Seriously. Just look a little harder - you should have no trouble finding them.
1) Yes. I don't think it's just Cassandra, I think it's more of the RNG. Every colonist is good at something, usually, but it's very rare that you get one who's good at things you want them to be doing.
2) Do you know of any mods, or keywords to search on the releases fourms.
1) I have shit luck. Somehow a bullet managed to brain dead a colonist JUST after a quick save even though he head a helmet.
Quote from: lighthoof on January 17, 2017, 02:36:27 AM
There are no bad colonists. There is a colony manager, who can't find a niche for them in the colony :P
What if all niches are filled by a guy that can at least haul, clean and has like 15 artistic/crafting with full bionics? Braindead colonists aren't really useful for me since they take to long to clean. Then everyone flips out with *
unnecessary* cannibalism so....
Quote from: Headshotkill on January 17, 2017, 02:57:48 AM
I haven't read a word from OP's post but I do like his use of Times New Roman.
Thank you.Quote from: jmababa on January 17, 2017, 07:12:05 AM
the reason I use phobe chillax not only long break times from raid, visitors, passerbys and other events you also have better colonists
I do want colonists, but not colonists that mentally implode into a unrecoverable state when they see a corpse because they keep wandering out to the raider pile when dazed. Also phobe, I have yet to use, and is apparently way to easy.
I currently have a nudist who commands 20+ bears and is has 19 in mining.
I am trying to avoid useless colonists. If they come from a crashed pod, i strip them down, take they stuff and let them die. Those "escaping from raiders" ones are different, you can't tell if its good or bad. Well if its is some kind of a teacher, i know its bad. But even if its a sheriff, it can be also pretty useless. If i have few of them in my colony, i just treat them different. Babs the pacifist, Johnson the noblist (he had 21 research at some point) but hes pretty useless, he just wanders around because he can't do shit, but i keep him only because he has a pretty decent shooting. But those crappy colonists have only herbal med, they are last for rescue, in case of Johnson, first i haul his weapon and let him bleed for a while, and if someone wants to rescue him, ok, but i never prioritize such thing. The silly thing is, he always gets the smallest wounds, he is resistant to diseases, etc, even if i send him alone to kill a timberwolf. He just wont die... Now, when he did all research he could, i think i send him alone to attack raiders, maybe they kidnap him, and at some point he will come back as a raider and i can shot hes useless head off with pleasure :)
If its Cassandra, and a colony is small, she will throw a bunch of escape pods to increase the population. Its the best moment to avoid useless colonists.
Many people bring this up, actually. You also don't need to keep crap colonists.
Prisoner? Don't recruit.
Wanderer? Euthanize.
Escape pod? Let 'em bleed out.
Don't forget that all useless colonists make excellen Lynx feed. Just dump them in the freezer and let your kitties chow down.
Quote from: Shurp on January 17, 2017, 04:42:45 PM
Don't forget that all useless colonists make excellen Lynx feed. Just dump them in the freezer and let your kitties chow down.
I was just wondering about how you get rid of colonists who are an actual danger to everyone around them. I read somewhere that you can actually execute people, but that doesn't seem to be the case from what I know.
Quote from: CptEgo on January 17, 2017, 07:02:43 PM
Quote from: Shurp on January 17, 2017, 04:42:45 PM
Don't forget that all useless colonists make excellen Lynx feed. Just dump them in the freezer and let your kitties chow down.
I was just wondering about how you get rid of colonists who are an actual danger to everyone around them. I read somewhere that you can actually execute people, but that doesn't seem to be the case from what I know.
Health > Operations > Add bill > Euthanize. Small mood penalty for a short time, gets rid of a chemically fascinated sheriff. Worth.
Quote from: Sola on January 17, 2017, 03:17:27 PM
Many people bring this up, actually. You also don't need to keep crap colonists.
Prisoner? Don't recruit.
Wanderer? Euthanize.
Escape pod? Let 'em bleed out.
Such a waste of precious donor organs ...
I've seen my fair share of bad colonists. In my agricultural colony I have a default of 3 idle colonists because basically the only thing they are good in is fighting (one is indeed called Sheriff). Yesterday I had a true medieval noble showing up in a drop-pod in my mining colony. Only capable of Social(9) and Art(3). She now runs the Muffalow fleet between the mining colony and main base.
Current (and first) game setup: Storryteller; Cassandra( year one) then Iron Dan (to escape the population softcap and have a bit more challenge), main mountain base (15 souls, 8 years old or so) running low on steel, mining colony (6 souls, first year) mining the crap out of adjacent tiles and an agricultural colony/waystation (12 souls, 3 years something) half-way to the nearest settlement of two friendly factions. Current goals: regular trade with friendlies on their home turf and maybe raid an enemy base or two. Also hoping someone gets a good spaceship mod going ;)