Any eta? Im still new to the game and am wondering.
I'm going to Europe for half of May (holiday) so it may actually be in June.
Quote from: Tynan on April 22, 2014, 09:05:23 PM
I'm going to Europe for half of May (holiday) so it may actually be in June.
Are you sure it wouldn't be a better idea to release it a few days *before* you leave for holidays, even if it's shorter on features then you want it to be?
That way you get peace on the holidays, feedback when you return, and fresh ideas to work with/tweaks to apply
Quote from: porcupine on April 22, 2014, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: Tynan on April 22, 2014, 09:05:23 PM
I'm going to Europe for half of May (holiday) so it may actually be in June.
Are you sure it wouldn't be a better idea to release it a few days *before* you leave for holidays, even if it's shorter on features then you want it to be?
That way you get peace on the holidays, feedback when you return, and fresh ideas to work with/tweaks to apply
yes sure release Alpha 4 without even having a new feature yet! GREAT IDEA!
EDIT: BTW i'm being sarcastic...
More like: if there is a bug in A4, I would either have to leave it until my return (awful) or somehow try to fix it on vacation (also awful).
Also, didn't A3 JUST come out? I think 'June' is pretty exciting considering the gap between earlier versions (though I know a lot of back-end work was done to delay those)
Quote from: Tynan on April 22, 2014, 09:05:23 PM
I'm going to Europe for half of May (holiday) so it may actually be in June.
Wait, are you saying you're a real human being and not some kind of robot that sits in a darkened room programming all day long?! (Totally not something I've done. (http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/images/smilies/shifty_eyes.gif))
Enjoy your vacation. :)
Quote from: ItchyFlea on April 23, 2014, 01:39:22 AM
Quote from: Tynan on April 22, 2014, 09:05:23 PM
I'm going to Europe for half of May (holiday) so it may actually be in June.
Wait, are you saying you're a real human being and not some kind of robot that sits in a darkened room programming all day long?!
Hey now, he never said THAT! :P
I'm pretty sure that he IS in fact a robot and only uses this "vacation" to hide it! :D But I have no problem with the next release in June, the only question is: Begin, middle or end of June (1-10, 10-20, 20-30)?
"It's done when it's done" - Some guy, 2013
The month is generally just a rough estimation, especially with indie titles such as rimworld, could come sooner, could come later.
Just be patient. it'll come eventually
coming to the UK?? dunno why ya would.... weather sucks :p
June? Well, I guess if it's six months sooner than the next Dwarf Fortress update, you're still doing pretty good.
Yeah, or you can manage to become tester so you have the minor-releases #ProTip
on the other hand we could do a long period of testing on the alpha 4, while you are out for vacation so we have a more precise report, as we can still play for fun if we want the more reliable alpha 3 for fun. and alpha 4 be a sort of experimental pre release.
I don't think it's a good idea. Game released to the public is a game released to the public - nobody cares if it's called alpha, beta or final release. If someone new will download A4 and won't be able to play it because of some bug or gameplay would be seriously lowered because of bug, do you think, that he will still be interested in such a game?
Early release is maybe good for current community, current players, but imho it's a bad move if we are talking about new players. And this tread shows, that Tynan is interested in new players: http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3082.0
big bold letter... saying EXPERIMENTAL RELEASE! will fix it.
I think you guys are setting unrealistic expectations for getting A4 out - the last patch for A3 just released less than two weeks ago and he's going to be on vacation for half of next month. One month to get A4 finished, tested, and released is really pushing the envelope - let the man have his rest!
im just saying as an option if possible, althou I dont really care, cause im sorting out some issues with the texturepack.
Also bear in mind that if I put out A4 before my holiday, that just means A5 will be delayed the two weeks instead. In the long run there is no avoiding that delay.
yeah... guys be patient for a release... we don't want to see a rushed update that is very Buggy... we don't want the Alpha 3 Incident happening again do we?
No we sure do not.
Dont force Tynan to work like crazy so we can play. I like steady aproach and every new patch is better and better (not like some steam early acces games, which are nearly finished and looks and plays worse than Tynans alphas). Give him time to work, I rather wait like a year for good game, istead of crap game, which was done faster. For example Planet explorers, devs wants and stated to finish game asap, even though there is lots of stuff missing - this is what can ruin good looking games. And I dont want to see that happening to Rim world, be patien pls.
Im not asking to rush or anything. I just joined the community a few days ago and was wondering when it would be because i didn't know when alpha 4 came out and i don't know the update schedule.
Quote from: Zemaus on April 23, 2014, 06:13:15 PM
Im not asking to rush or anything. I just joined the community a few days ago and was wondering when it would be because i didn't know when alpha 4 came out and i don't know the update schedule.
Well the forum is the correct place to ask, but I in the future include that in the title that you are just curious as you are a new member to the community, people will generally be more understanding and not see it as:
"OMG gimme new relese now, old one only cam out lst wek bt I don kaar.. plskthx"
Not saying you would do something like that, but this is the internet..
I vote we take the delay now, let Tynan have is vacation and have fun with A3. then when we gets back from vacation he will be well rested and ready to work 22 hours a day.. right?.. right guys?.. guys?..
Agreed, but 22 hours? You give him way too much free time, let it be like 23 hours at least ;D.
Quote from: Peacekeep3r777 on April 24, 2014, 05:18:29 AM
Agreed, but 22 hours? You give him way too much free time, let it be like 23 hours at least ;D.
well I figure he can sleep 2 hours a night and he does need to eat.. and if he eats while programming it could land in his keyboard making him unable to work till he gets a new one, which would cause a delay again..
Quote from: Plasmatic on April 23, 2014, 06:31:16 PM...
"OMG gimme new relese now, old one only cam out lst wek bt I don kaar.. plskthx"...
lol, but ya, in all sincerity a worker(tynan) will do much better at their job(rimworld) after R&R(cooler game).
Quote from: Tynan on April 23, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
Also bear in mind that if I put out A4 before my holiday, that just means A5 will be delayed the two weeks instead. In the long run there is no avoiding that delay.
Are you planning to bring on additional developers for Rimworld?
Quote from: porcupine on April 24, 2014, 05:05:19 PM
Quote from: Tynan on April 23, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
Also bear in mind that if I put out A4 before my holiday, that just means A5 will be delayed the two weeks instead. In the long run there is no avoiding that delay.
Are you planning to bring on additional developers for Rimworld?
I believe that is a matter of who is showing up on his doorstep to apply :-)
http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=1703.0
Quote from: Pirx Danford on April 24, 2014, 07:16:04 PM
Quote from: porcupine on April 24, 2014, 05:05:19 PM
Quote from: Tynan on April 23, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
Also bear in mind that if I put out A4 before my holiday, that just means A5 will be delayed the two weeks instead. In the long run there is no avoiding that delay.
Are you planning to bring on additional developers for Rimworld?
I believe that is a matter of who is showing up on his doorstep to apply :-)
http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=1703.0
Yes, it's a matter of finding someone. I'm afraid I haven't been putting a ton of time into recruiting. It's really a new kind of challenge for me and I don't have a repeatable methodology set up for it.
It's also kind of scary. I have issues trusting people with creative or intellectual work. I want to maintain very high quality standards for Ludeon. I want a strong generalist or someone with potential to become one. It's hard to find people in the top 1%. Hiring employee #2 at a company is very risky. All together, there is a significant wall to get over before someone can be brought on.
Quote from: Tynan on April 24, 2014, 07:43:09 PM
Quote from: Pirx Danford on April 24, 2014, 07:16:04 PM
Quote from: porcupine on April 24, 2014, 05:05:19 PM
Quote from: Tynan on April 23, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
Also bear in mind that if I put out A4 before my holiday, that just means A5 will be delayed the two weeks instead. In the long run there is no avoiding that delay.
Are you planning to bring on additional developers for Rimworld?
I believe that is a matter of who is showing up on his doorstep to apply :-)
http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=1703.0
Yes, it's a matter of finding someone. I'm afraid I haven't been putting a ton of time into recruiting. It's really a new kind of challenge for me and I don't have a repeatable methodology set up for it.
It's also kind of scary. I have issues trusting people with creative or intellectual work. I want to maintain very high quality standards for Ludeon. I want a strong generalist or someone with potential to become one. It's hard to find people in the top 1%. Hiring employee #2 at a company is very risky. All together, there is a significant wall to get over before someone can be brought on.
Its good to be not too trusting, but its much more important to be ready to act appropriately and do the tough call of letting someone go.
In our company we were a small team of three coders and we ignored the signs about the third of us having quite some troubles.
Finally he had to leave, but we took well over a year to recover the project he was working on from the shambles it was in and we are still having "fun" with it. Its a shame because if it would be in a better state it would be quite interesting for our customers.
So... be ready to trust someone early on, but check the work results and be ready to draw consequences without much delay.
Its harsh, but losing money and recovering bad work is harsher.
I would rather wait longer and get an alpha 4 that has more features to test/look for bugs than get a rushed alpha that is littered with bugs and has half finished features. I think one of the things people are forgetting here is that this game is still in alpha and that we have bought the game to support Tynan as he develops the game and to test it for bugs. This game hasn't even been released yet and it may seem as if you are playing the game but not only that we are also testing it and its barriers, if we go for a rushed alpha it just negates the point if there are numerous bugs that could have been ironed out easily if given more time. The releases need to come out as they are ready and when Tynan decides so we don't spend 3/4 of our play time on the bug reports forum complaining about broken game mechanics.
Considering Star Citizen's delays, what does a month count? :D
I do not think that we can compare Star Citizen's 44MILLION dollar budget to Rimworlds budget.
It's not the budget, what i want to compare. I just wanted to show, that 'we' are waiting for SC for more than a year now and only got the Hangar module and several promises.
With rimworld 'we' got a fully playable game, which is moddable and regularly updated, so why bothering when alpha xy comes out?
Quote from: Blackjack1000K on April 23, 2014, 12:10:13 PM
yeah... guys be patient for a release... we don't want to see a rushed update that is very Buggy... we don't want the Alpha 3 Incident happening again do we?
Alpha 3 incident?
Tynan if I could I would help you with programming. And you do need to take your rest so that you later on can work at 100% speed to get the Alpha 4 safe'n sound to the rimworld players
Alpha 3 incident:
APRIL 15 UPDATE: Silently updated to Alpha3f.
APRIL 13 UPDATE: Silently updated to Alpha3e.
APRIL 12 UPDATE: Silently updated to Alpha3d.
April 11: Alpha 3a, 3b and 3c
April 10: Public build 408 - Alpha 3
So the alpha 3 incident is just some silent updates?
Quote from: Bodog999 on May 06, 2014, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: Blackjack1000K on April 23, 2014, 12:10:13 PM
yeah... guys be patient for a release... we don't want to see a rushed update that is very Buggy... we don't want the Alpha 3 Incident happening again do we?
Alpha 3 incident?
Where were you the time Alpha 3 came out?
anyway here's the Alpha 3 Incident :P
Quote from: Neone on May 06, 2014, 11:01:37 AM
Alpha 3 incident:
APRIL 15 UPDATE: Silently updated to Alpha3f.
APRIL 13 UPDATE: Silently updated to Alpha3e.
APRIL 12 UPDATE: Silently updated to Alpha3d.
April 11: Alpha 3a, 3b and 3c
April 10: Public build 408 - Alpha 3
Quote from: Bodog999 on May 06, 2014, 11:03:08 AM
So the alpha 3 incident is just some silent updates?
No they were buggy silent updates until Alpha3F came out,
Alpha3F still has some bugs in it but its not major.