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Mines (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases) ~ A balanced approach Pawns working at these mines collect $7.523 silver/hour in resources. You pick the resource, and the pawn will work for enough time to earn it. Build as many as you like for all your miners. Downloads Mines on github (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases) Incompatibilities Interactions with Help tab and Improved Work Bench produce errors when used with Mines mod

License
Public Domain - do with it as you please
Mod packs and alternate download sites are welcome.

Update (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases)
Corrected an error in the price of uranium ~ set to 3.40 silver/unit. Pawns mining uranium take the appropriate amount of time to dig it up, about half an hour (0:28).

Also, the Rimworld mechanics treat compacted machinery as a mine-able resource in a way that creates a lore similar to Oblivion (https://onethirdfilm.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/oblivion1.jpg?w=625&h=428), Fallout (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/a/a8/Fallout3_1_lg.jpg) and Borderlands (https://images.g2a.com/images/1024x768/1x1x0/2b47ea1779da/590db32f5bafe393695da243). At $21 silver/unit, components would be the most expensive mine-able resource, taking 2.8hr (2:50) to extract one.

Can you please put some images? Is a placeable object? =O

https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/blob/master/Textures/Mineshaft.png

It's a placeable object.  Similar in principle to the quarry mod or the deep core drill but more specific and lower tech.

Ok ok thank you :D i'll give a try.

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Legacy2_3641.jpg)

Picture added, and yes they're place-able buildings with a spot for someone to work at. Also updated the mod to include mining compacted machinery from the depths of Rimworld's ancient history.

Very nice !!
Too bad minions still can't work at these.

For some reason my colonist will always prefer to go across the map to mine steel rather then going to the mine behind their homes pls help

Can you use sprites for mines from you first post, and do mine size 5x4 or something like that ?

And btw, very nice idea :D

Very cool mod! thx :)

Does it mine cupro's alloys?

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Quote from: GngBngBus on July 06, 2017, 10:57:53 AM For some reason my colonist will always prefer to go across the map to mine steel rather then going to the mine behind their homes pls help Today's update (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases) When pawns think about doing a mining job they'll consider going to the mines with a higher priority. Quote from: Lerin on July 06, 2017, 11:19:33 AM Can you use sprites for mines from you first post, and do mine size 5x4 or something like that ? Incorporated clipart from first post as the in-game image for the mines, and increased the size to occupy a 3x3 space.

Quote from: leeadriancatfox on July 06, 2017, 09:55:14 PM
Does it mine cupro's alloys?

Added as feature request (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/issues/1), so that mining can extract the base resources Copper, Lead, Tin and Aluminum.

Umm, how do you set priorities? i'm a total noob at this game

The priority referenced above is an under-the-hood part of the way pawns think about stuff; it's one input hint from the mod developer to the pawn about how to choose their next task.

Players also have a priority system to give input to the pawn's thinking about what to do next, the Work Tab.
(http://i.imgur.com/FJnaaSs.jpg?1)

Here's a video of Fluffy's Work Tab (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hO8CtsYH2o).

never mind i had most of the stuff at 1 :p now it's working

After playing the game for a while with the graphic set to 3x3, it seems still too small. So here's two images to choose between:

5x5	7x7
(https://s6.postimg.org/ecbv8cwup/5x5Mine.jpg)	(https://s6.postimg.org/k1s3so30x/7x7Mine.jpg)

Which seems the better fit?

6*6 ;)

Also may I suggest to make its colors more like on the first picture? I don't know how to say it precisely, more pale? less red?

5x5, better fit the size of the pawn.

What do you think about another alternative
a 3x2 mineshaft only placeable on mineable stones. Even an flat map there should be enough spots for that.

Quote from: Canute on July 08, 2017, 01:10:53 PM
What do you think about another alternative
a 3x2 mineshaft only placeable on mineable stones. Even an flat map there should be enough spots for that.

makes sense if you are digging for rock .. anything else does not, since it would clash with the lore of the deep drills,
beneath the earth is still rock and other ressources.

And I too prefer the size of 5x5. It's one of those rule-of-thumb sizes in Rimworld that always feel right somehow. Not to small like 3x3 and 7x7 allready feels to big ..

forgot to ask but how do you mine components from the mine? 'cause it's not showing up on the bills tab

I think the 5x5 is the best option, its feel more "natural"  ;)

Would it be possible to add the ability to mine the different types of stones? Or maybe just the ones present on the map?

(https://s6.postimg.org/6u1wr7k9d/mines.png)

Art update (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases) Pawns will path around the mine instead of moving really slow through it's tiles Mines are big enough to block wind if placed in the path of a windmill

QuotePawns will path around the mine instead of moving really slow through it's tiles

Damn pathing, I want better pathfinding back !! :-(

Currently the pawn working at the mine like a workbench, it is possible that they disappear during work, because they are somewhere in the underground to mine.

Quote from: Canute on July 08, 2017, 01:10:53 PM
What do you think about another alternative a 3x2 mineshaft only placeable on mineable stones.

I think that limiting where a player may put the mine would create filtering problems when selecting a biome, such as a desert or a swamp, or something yet to be invented.

Quote from: Canute on July 09, 2017, 03:08:00 AM
Currently the pawn working at the mine like a workbench, it is possible that they disappear during work, because they are somewhere in the underground to mine.

That could be an interesting mechanic, useful for vehicles, riding beasts, ships, working inside pods and other chamber types. Maybe have a face overlay for seeing the pawns 'using' a given thing, and for selection/navigation. It seems like a worthy project, something that will require dedicated coding effort that is somewhat outside of this mod's field of endeavor.

Quote from: platypus on July 08, 2017, 04:09:34 PM
Would it be possible to add the ability to mine the different types of stones? Or maybe just the ones present on the map?

Yes it would, and I'll add that to the feature requests (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/issues/2). I'd like to implement it as digging up rock chunks that can then be further processed into blocks through other game mechanics and mods.

Btw how do you mine components from the Mines? it is not showing up in the Bills to Mine it

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Quote from: GngBngBus on July 09, 2017, 12:56:30 PM how do you mine components from the Mines? it is not showing up in the Bills to Mine it Working fine for me. The question appears to have two possible interpretations, only one of which has any meaning for maintaining this mod. Are you seeing something different from the image at the left? If yes, then I'd like a copy of your config file to sort out mod conflicts and compatibilities If no, then the problem is outside my domain

Is this What you want ? https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/32a606df3ee27d73dab73081d640d9ff

What about ores from other mods? Will it need a patch?

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Quote from: Nanao-kun on July 10, 2017, 06:37:16 PM What about ores from other mods? Will it need a patch? Yes, at our present place in the IRL tech research tree it will need a manual patch file. I'll put something together for including Cupro's Alloys tomorrow.

I wanted to say a nice thank you.

I love that you took the Western-Style approach for the look of the Mine instead of something technical.

(https://s6.postimg.org/bn99cyrf5/Cupro_s_Alloys.png)

Cupro's Alloys patch (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines-CuprosAlloys-patch/releases) A previous post made mention of an issue that seems to have clarified itself as what might best be described as "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." There is a mapping between compacted machinery and components that is to some an increase of detail, but to others an unnecessary layer of indirection. To address this issue requires some compromise from both camps. I've added the mapping to the work bills so that the detail remains but can be ignored by those who find it cumbersome.

AngleWyrm,
i don't have much knowledge about modding here, but couldn't you made it that mines search for all thingCategories ResourcesRaw Metallic  and stones and made them mineable ?
So the mines auto. expand their mineable resources depend on the installed mods and wouldn't need a patch for any mod ?

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Why are there many computer languages? Because each one makes it easy and natural to see solutions present in a given domain, a paintbrush for each kind of job. Due to the way xpath is written, it's simple for one mod to make edits to another mod, but not simple to make edits to itself based on the existence of another mod. So including a patch file that edits Mines to add new resources (rather than a separate patch mod) is best done from the perspective of the mod adding those resources. Pretty much a copy/paste from the Cupro's Alloys patch.

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Searching function update (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases) At game startup, Mines search through the game for any mineable resources, and generate work bill recipes for them. Thanks to dburgdorf's (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=68849) invaluable assistance with C# which made this possible.

Well done !

I got maybe an issue.
Currently i am playing with Crystaloid race which add the crystal. Crystal ore is on the map and mineable, but it don't appear at the mine. Tryed to move Mines before and after Crystaloid but nothing change.

And i think you should remove the ability to mine components, this would made the research for component assemble absolent. And made it too easy to get components.

The crystal resource from Crystaloid alien mod doesn't appear to be a mineable resource; that is to say, it doesn't appear in deep clusters for mines, drills and other tools to dig up from deep underground. I've posted a mention of this to the Crystaloid thread, and the mod's author AtomicRavioli (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=59979) has stated an update is in the works (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=26852.msg352753#msg352753)

The cost in time spent mining for anything drawn from these mines is specified by the market value of the item being mined. Components are currently the most expensive resource that can be dug up from deep underground, with a price of 21 silver each which translates to almost three hours of pawn mining (2:47) to get just one component.

I haven't made any cost comparisons to researching and using a component assembly bench, or any of the mods that provide alternatives. If they produce more than the rate of a mine then they offer a cheaper solution, and if they are more expensive to use then the mine is a more effective method. There may also be trade-offs involved in other mods where pawn labor can be exchanged for other costs such as research, energy consumption or resource usage.

Yes, a good  crafter can made componets faster at the assembly then a miner at the mine. But the mine don't need steel and no power.

Compact mashinery isn't a natural resources, they are remains from some ancient cultures. And i don't think they don't appear that deep, hmm dwarfen, alien ants hmm ok, they can appear that deep.

Quote from: Canute on July 17, 2017, 01:56:01 PM
Yes, a good  crafter can made componets faster at the assembly then a miner at the mine. But the mine don't need steel and no power.

Compact mashinery isn't a natural resources, they are remains from some ancient cultures. And i don't think they don't appear that deep, hmm dwarfen, alien ants hmm ok, they can appear that deep.

This arguement also fits plasteel which is also not a natural ressource.

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Multi-lingual support (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases) This update adds language translation support. Note: Searched for resources derive their names from the mods that create them.

<LanguageData>
<Mineshaft.defName>Mineshaft</Mineshaft.defName>
<Mineshaft.label>mineshaft</Mineshaft.label>
<Mining>Mining {0}.</Mining>
<Mine>mine {0}{1}</Mine>
<LogMessageFoundResource>[Mines]Found something to mine: {0}</LogMessageFoundResource>
<LogMessageAddedRecipe> -- added recipe for {0}</LogMessageAddedRecipe>
<Excavate>Excavate_{0}</Excavate>
</LanguageData>

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Language Update (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases) Changed all resources to be found by the search method, so that the language translations may proceed in an orderly fashion for every entry. (https://blzgdapipro-a.akamaihd.net/game/unlocks/0x0250000000000B46.png) Added Russian translation I've used google translate; if there are further improvements that can be made for the translations, post them and I'll include them in the next update.

<LanguageData>
<Mineshaft.defName>штольня</Mineshaft.defName>
<Mineshaft.label>шахта</Mineshaft.label>
<Mining>Добыча {0}.</Mining>
<Mine>добывать {0}{1}</Mine>
<LogMessageFoundResource>[Мины] Нашли что-то для моего: {0}</LogMessageFoundResource>
<LogMessageAddedRecipe> -- добавлен рецепт для {0}</LogMessageAddedRecipe>
<Excavate>рыть_{0}</Excavate>
</LanguageData>

Quote from: AngleWyrm on July 14, 2017, 07:02:05 AM

(http://cgwall.cn/upload/2014/03/0326BO5Sm3G1dhyziyN-1.jpg)

Searching function update (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases) At game startup, Mines search through the game for any mineable resources, and generate work bill recipes for them. Thanks to dburgdorf's (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=68849) invaluable assistance with C# which made this possible.

There is something that i probably miss cause i only get the bills for the standard metals without cupro's alloys patch.
Should i use the cupro's alloy patch with the new version or not ?
Thanks in advance .

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Quote from: Sirsim on July 19, 2017, 01:48:47 PM There is something that i probably miss cause i only get the bills for the standard metals without cupro's alloys patch. The patch (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines-CuprosAlloys-patch) was for an older version of Mines, before implementing a search feature. The patch is depreciated as no longer necessary. This is the list of mine-able resources that I see in-game when using Mines version 17-7-19 (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases) with Cupro's Alloys version 17.10 (https://github.com/cuproPanda/CAL/releases) Are you using the Help Tab (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=33593.msg342712#msg342712) mod? There's an incompatibility between the two (noted in the first post) that makes searches fail. A couple possible solutions: Use an older version of Mines, and create a patch that adds the latest resources from Cupro's Alloys Deactivate Help Tab

Quote from: AngleWyrm on July 19, 2017, 02:10:11 PM

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Quote from: Sirsim on July 19, 2017, 01:48:47 PM There is something that i probably miss cause i only get the bills for the standard metals without cupro's alloys patch. The patch was for an older version of Mines, before implementing a search feature. It is depreciated as no longer necessary. This is the list of mine-able resources that I see in-game when using Mines version 17-7-19 (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases) with Cupro's Alloys version 17.10 (https://github.com/cuproPanda/CAL/releases) Are you using the Help Tab (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=33593.msg342712#msg342712) mod? There's an incompatibility (mentioned in the first post) between the two that makes searches fail.

A-ha! The help mod. I tried everything (many things to try with 98 mods installed) till i started to feel stupid (blind seems that fits better) and retreated to old version+patch.
Thanks again.

I am getting multiple errors when i try to load a game with mines build on it and game does not load. When i load a save before i build them everything is ok. It is is strange as i didn't have errors with the new version till now.
I attached a screenshot of the errors. 

EDIT 1
I loaded mines as the only mod, i started a game , build a mine and set a bill of gold.
Saved and can't load the game . I am getting the same errors as above but this time with gold in it.

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It appears to be a recent removal of the mods that create those resources (EXP_Lead, Ind_Copper).

A couple options are:

• re-install those mods (looks like Cupro's Alloys and maybe Industrialization)
• quit to desktop and restart to clear out recent configuration data

Rimworld seems to maintain some old/outdated information even after a mod has been removed.

Does this mod support Glittertech? Aka, Titanium? or would that require a patch?

Using the quick and dirty update of core drill atm, but it's doing some funky stuff with pawns and jobs (can't speak to traders anymore after working on it)

Looks like this could be the mod to replace that one :)

All I want is the ability to mine the base resources, Stone, and Titanium.

(https://s6.postimg.org/xo8mo1akx/glittertech.png)

Quote from: Plasmatic on July 25, 2017, 06:06:59 AM Does this mod support Glittertech? Aka, Titanium? or would that require a patch? Yes it supports GlitterTech out of the box with no patching necessary; this mod searches for mine-able resources at game start and adds them to the mining bills, so it should support any mod that adds things that can be mined from deep underground. The screeny on the left is with Glittertech and Cupro's Alloys installed.

good mod but it theres a big problem where the save wont load after building a mine
and using it

Quote from: Reoxur on July 26, 2017, 06:44:16 AM
The current graphic / artwork of the mine is a little too cartoony and perspective is off, would be better if it fit the art style of Rimworld.

Don't listen to him .. rather add animals and tumble-weed.

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Quote from: raisermrk2 on July 25, 2017, 10:50:21 PM
good mod but it theres a big problem where the save wont load after building a mine
and using it

I have the same problem and forced to uninstall the mod although i love how it 'transforms' mining.
Something got corrupted cause i can't load a game with a mine build in it.

Quote from: Sirsim on July 26, 2017, 09:03:50 AM

Quote from: raisermrk2 on July 25, 2017, 10:50:21 PM
good mod but it theres a big problem where the save wont load after building a mine
and using it

I have the same problem and forced to uninstall the mod although i love how it 'transforms' mining.
Something got corrupted cause i can't load a game with a mine build in it.

How unfortunate.
I can only work on issues that I can reproduce, so please attach your ModConfig.xml that I may look into the matter.

Quote from: AngleWyrm on July 26, 2017, 01:10:06 PM

Quote from: Sirsim on July 26, 2017, 09:03:50 AM

Quote from: raisermrk2 on July 25, 2017, 10:50:21 PM
good mod but it theres a big problem where the save wont load after building a mine
and using it

I have the same problem and forced to uninstall the mod although i love how it 'transforms' mining.
Something got corrupted cause i can't load a game with a mine build in it.

How unfortunate.
I can only work on issues that I can reproduce, so please attach your ModConfig.xml that I may look into the matter.

Having this issue as well. Set it up to mine steel. Now the game won't load:

Could not load reference to Verse.RecipeDef named Excavate_Steel
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.ScribeExtractor:DefFromNode(XmlNode)
Verse.Scribe_Defs:Look(RecipeDef&, String)
RimWorld.Bill:ExposeData()
RimWorld.Bill_Production:ExposeData()
Verse.ScribeExtractor:SaveableFromNode(XmlNode, Object[])
Verse.Scribe_Collections:Look(List`1&, Boolean, String, LookMode, Object[])
Verse.Scribe_Collections:Look(List`1&, String, LookMode, Object[])
RimWorld.BillStack:ExposeData()
Verse.ScribeExtractor:SaveableFromNode(XmlNode, Object[])
Verse.Scribe_Deep:Look(BillStack&, Boolean, String, Object[])
Verse.Scribe_Deep:Look(BillStack&, String, Object[])
RimWorld.Building_WorkTable:ExposeData()
Verse.ScribeExtractor:SaveableFromNode(XmlNode, Object[])
Verse.Scribe_Collections:Look(List`1&, Boolean, String, LookMode, Object[])
Verse.Scribe_Collections:Look(List`1&, String, LookMode, Object[])
Verse.Map:ExposeData()
Verse.ScribeExtractor:SaveableFromNode(XmlNode, Object[])
Verse.Scribe_Collections:Look(List`1&, Boolean, String, LookMode, Object[])
Verse.Scribe_Collections:Look(List`1&, String, LookMode, Object[])
Verse.Game:LoadGame()
Verse.SavedGameLoader:LoadGameFromSaveFile(String)
Verse.Root_Play:<Start>m__84F()
Verse.LongEventHandler:RunEventFromAnotherThread(Action)
Verse.LongEventHandler:<UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent>m__84C()


Exception in FinalizeLoading(): System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at RimWorld.Bill.GetUniqueLoadID () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.LoadedObjectDirectory.RegisterLoaded (ILoadReferenceable reffable) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.CrossRefHandler.ResolveAllCrossReferences () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.ScribeLoader.FinalizeLoading () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.ScribeLoader:FinalizeLoading()
Verse.Game:LoadGame()
Verse.SavedGameLoader:LoadGameFromSaveFile(String)
Verse.Root_Play:<Start>m__84F()
Verse.LongEventHandler:RunEventFromAnotherThread(Action)
Verse.LongEventHandler:<UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent>m__84C()


Exception from asynchronous event: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at RimWorld.Bill.GetUniqueLoadID () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.LoadedObjectDirectory.RegisterLoaded (ILoadReferenceable reffable) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.CrossRefHandler.ResolveAllCrossReferences () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.ScribeLoader.FinalizeLoading () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.LongEventHandler:RunEventFromAnotherThread(Action)
Verse.LongEventHandler:<UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent>m__84C()



Could not execute post-long-event action. Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at Verse.Map.get_TileInfo () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.Map.get_Biome () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at RimWorld.AmbientSoundManager.RecreateMapSustainers () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.LongEventHandler.ExecuteToExecuteWhenFinished () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.LongEventHandler:ExecuteToExecuteWhenFinished()
Verse.LongEventHandler:UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent()
Verse.LongEventHandler:LongEventsUpdate(Boolean&)
Verse.Root:Update_Patch1(Object)
Verse.Root_Play:Update()



Not sure if a full list of my 194 mods would help so I'll refrain from posting it for now.

Update: I can reproduce the error with nothing but this mod, Hugslib and Mod List Backup.
Just started a new game, set down a mine, set a bill to mine steel. Save. On load it throws the error.

Quote from: mrsebseb on July 27, 2017, 07:45:02 AM
Not sure if a full list of my 194 mods would help so I'll refrain from posting it for now.

Not sure if I can help without that that file attachment so I'll refrain from further comment for now.

Quote from: AngleWyrm on July 27, 2017, 08:39:46 AM

Quote from: mrsebseb on July 27, 2017, 07:45:02 AM
Not sure if a full list of my 194 mods would help so I'll refrain from posting it for now.

Not sure if I can help without that that file attachment so I'll refrain from further comment for now.

OK, since you clearly missed it:

Quote from: mrsebseb on July 27, 2017, 07:45:02 AM
Update: I can reproduce the error with nothing butthis mod, Hugslib and Mod List Backup.
Just started a new game, set down a mine, set a bill to mine steel. Save. On load it throws the error.

Or do you want a "ModsConfig.xml" that'll tell you the exact same thing?

Quote from: AngleWyrm on July 25, 2017, 03:19:14 PM

(https://s6.postimg.org/xo8mo1akx/glittertech.png)

Quote from: Plasmatic on July 25, 2017, 06:06:59 AM Does this mod support Glittertech? Aka, Titanium? or would that require a patch? Yes it supports GlitterTech out of the box with no patching necessary; this mod searches for mine-able resources at game start and adds them to the mining bills, so it should support any mod that adds things that can be mined from deep underground. The screeny on the left is with Glittertech and Cupro's Alloys installed.

So you can mine chemfuel but no compacted machinery (aka components)? What a weird mod  :o

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Quote from: Ichimatsu on July 28, 2017, 12:14:25 PM So you can mine chemfuel but no compacted machinery (aka components)? What a weird mod  :o Quote from: Canute on July 17, 2017, 09:54:52 AM And i think you should remove the ability to mine components, this would made the research for component assemble absolent. And made it too easy to get components. There's some disagreement of opinion on what is desirable, so I've gone with the rule that if a resource can be mined from deep underground then it will appear in the list. In technical terms, that is specified by including a <deepCommonality> tag in the resource definition.

Is it just me that after loading a game with a mine & bills i can't see the previous set bills and i can't set any more bills? Only solution i found is to remove the mine and/or make another one.

Edit:

Possible solution, i have noticed that if i delete all the mine bills before a save next time i load the game i can add bills without any problem.

Did you add some mod between the safe ?
Or do you got alot a new mineable resources that the bill menu can't show them all maybe ?

Quote from: TheWrongColonist on July 28, 2017, 10:00:23 PM
Is it just me that after loading a game with a mine & bills i can't see the previous set bills and i can't set any more bills? Only solution i found is to remove the mine and make another one.

It's not just you; I've seen this in a heavily modded game, and it wasn't present in a sparsely modded game, so it seems possible there's some mod we both used that should be added to the doesn't-play-well-together list.

Quote from: Canute on July 29, 2017, 02:43:04 AM
Did you add some mod between the safe ?
Or do you got alot a new mineable resources that the bill menu can't show them all maybe ?

I don't have any new mineable resources, what happens is when i press Bills nothing pops up like it was locked.

This happens with my game too,

and only rebuilding helps.

Strangely enough, I have no additional minable ressources in my game.

If that's a bug report, I'll need an attached modConfig.xml to act on.
Otherwise I'm just gonna forward it to voice-mail in the complaints department.

It was mostly a complaint and validation of the post before me, that he is not the only one with that problem.

But I gladly show you my ModList, AngleWyrm  ;D

It is mostly free of Incompatibilites and only a few minor def complaints.



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This mod have a little bug, after load a game, my pawns cant work on the mine anymore because the bills get a bug, i have to destroy it and build again.

same bug with the bills i only can save the mine removing the bills before saving

Quote from: KLk on August 11, 2017, 01:59:33 PM
same bug with the bills i only can save the mine removing the bills before saving

Same reply to the mod incompatibility problem: attaching your active modsConfig.xml will produce a population of those files that will narrow down the incompatibility.

So far there is one file. Care to contribute yours?

slightly different modlist, still the same bug.



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@AngleWyrm

If you have a working modlist, would you mind sharing yours so I can do a bit of testing myself ?

Quote from: SpaceDorf on August 12, 2017, 03:36:16 PM
slightly different modlist, still the same bug.
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If you have a working modlist, would you mind sharing yours so I can do a bit of testing myself ?

XML files can be drag/dropped into a spreadsheet for easy analysis, and so I've attached such a workbook. On the first page is my config, also included as an xml object on the page. On the second page is your config, represented in the same way. Both configs result in the odd menu displacement error when used in-game.

On the third sheet is the combination of the two, with duplicates highlighted in orange. It seems likely to me the problem is an incompatibility between two mods, Mines and some unknown member of that orange collection.

By combining the two lists, the resulting group has been narrowed down to 24 mods (half the duplicates list). The maximum number of trials necessary to locate one problematic mod out of a set of 24 is the ceiling of log(24)/log(2) = 5 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=ceiling(+log(24)+%2F+log(2)+)).

So it should take a maximum of five tests to sort it out, by testing half the remaining set at a time.

Caveats:
* mod folder renaming will result in failing to discover duplicates.
* workbook generated with WPS Office Portable (https://mega.nz/#!MYRxSZKQ!jJh0HlB8XjxLgDDDnBILVbkoOwYTIlEFsaE7MZZ36sc), runs quite fast in that app, but sluggish in MS Excel 2010.

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Your incompatible mod might be improved workbench management, or i am having a completely new error,

I can't load a save using only huglibs, improved workbench management and your mod.
Exception in FinalizeLoading(): System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at RimWorld.Bill.GetUniqueLoadID () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.LoadedObjectDirectory.RegisterLoaded (ILoadReferenceable reffable) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.CrossRefHandler.ResolveAllCrossReferences () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.ScribeLoader.FinalizeLoading () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
More error in the outputlog attached.

To reproduce:
- Start a new colony
- Plop a mininshaft with godmode
- Set some bills in it (silver, gold and plasteel)
- Save the game when a pawn just get to it to work
- Exit the game
- Restart the game and load the save file
- ERROR

Maybe your mod is not saving the bills? that is only speculation, i know nothing of coding xD

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This could be the case. The mod is in the list of mods AngleWyrm and I both use.
But the behavior you describe is something complely different.

Quote from: faltonico on August 12, 2017, 10:48:00 PM
Your incompatible mod might be improved workbench management

A trial with just the set of 24 shared mods plus removal of improved work bench seems to have worked. Will try a full loadout next, with that exception and see how that goes.

Quote from: AngleWyrm on August 12, 2017, 10:01:24 PM
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By combining the two lists, the resulting group has been narrowed down to 24 mods (half the duplicates list). The maximum number of trials necessary to locate one problematic mod out of a set of 24 is the ceiling of log(24)/log(2) = 5 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=ceiling(+log(24)+%2F+log(2)+)).

So it should take a maximum of five tests to sort it out, by testing half the remaining set at a time.

It only took me one try... i looked for possible candidates, those being the changing bills mods, and Improved workbench management was the one doing the most changes.

(http://img14.deviantart.net/881c/i/2011/046/f/4/final_fantasy_group_by_raimundo91-d39m6rs.jpg)

Team awesome has done it! Attached is my working mod list. It was the improved work bench mod that was creating a weird build menu interaction. I've added it to the incompatibles list in the first post.

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Bug fix for save games not loading (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases)

The recipes created during setup with RecipeDefs.Add(recipe) weren't being recognized during save game loading operations. Why is still a mystery.

To correct the problem, I've reverted the recipe mechanism to using Defs/recipes.xml; this fixes the bug with loading saved games, but eliminates creating recipes on the fly, which means only the vanilla recipes are available out of the box.

It's an unfortunate change, but breaking save games is a critical error that had to be quickly addressed.

Quote from: AngleWyrm on August 11, 2017, 04:19:20 PM

Quote from: KLk on August 11, 2017, 01:59:33 PM
same bug with the bills i only can save the mine removing the bills before saving

Same reply to the mod incompatibility problem: attaching your active modsConfig.xml will produce a population of those files that will narrow down the incompatibility.

So far there is one file. Care to contribute yours?

i don't think is a mod problem it worked fine untill i updated the mod... And i ont know how to do what you want from me, tell me how and i will give it to you (TNXS)
PS the bills still there but i can't see them or the pawns work, with new bills (i can start new one) it looks like it put one in the queue but the pawns cant work so it doesn't matter

Quote from: KLk on August 17, 2017, 09:59:53 AM
i don't think is a mod problem it worked fine until i updated the mod... And i don't know how to do what you want from me, tell me how and i will give it to you

Do you have the mod Help tab or the mod Improved Work Benches installed? There were compatibility issues with those two mods. Since the reversion those issues might no longer be present, but I haven't tested for that.

You going to add the ability to mine other mod's minerals?

Quote from: AngleWyrm on August 17, 2017, 10:15:00 AM

Quote from: KLk on August 17, 2017, 09:59:53 AM
i don't think is a mod problem it worked fine until i updated the mod... And i don't know how to do what you want from me, tell me how and i will give it to you

Do you have the mod Help tab or the mod Improved Work Benches installed? There were compatibility issues with those two mods. Since the reversion those issues might no longer be present, but I haven't tested for that.

noope, just prothesis
http://imgur.com/a/B13sE (http://imgur.com/a/B13sE)

Possibly I placed it in a wrong area but when I click bills, nothing is in the section. It's empty. I wanted to try this mod and compare it to Quarry. If it's a research.. man I guess I need to dig a little further and try to find it.

Quote from: PixelBitZombie on August 17, 2017, 02:05:31 PM
Possibly I placed it in a wrong area but when I click bills, nothing is in the section. It's empty. I wanted to try this mod and compare it to Quarry. If it's a research.. man I guess I need to dig a little further and try to find it.

There seems to be something lacking in mines.xml def file.
There are no recipes defined for the building, I added the recipes similar to the older versions of the mod and everything got fixed and also my modded material recipe which I added the patch for got added too.

Adding this to the mines.xml under inspectorTabs fixed the issue for me:

      <recipes>
         <li>Excavate_Steel</li>
         <li>Excavate_Plasteel</li>
         <li>Excavate_Uranium</li>
         <li>Excavate_Silver</li>
         <li>Excavate_Gold</li>
         <li>Excavate_Jade</li>
      </recipes>

Added CyanSam's bug fix

Quote from: CyanSam on August 17, 2017, 02:50:10 PM

Quote from: PixelBitZombie on August 17, 2017, 02:05:31 PM
Possibly I placed it in a wrong area but when I click bills, nothing is in the section. It's empty. I wanted to try this mod and compare it to Quarry. If it's a research.. man I guess I need to dig a little further and try to find it.

Put those in the xml file and worked, thanks bud!
There seems to be something lacking in mines.xml def file.
There are no recipes defined for the building, I added the recipes similar to the older versions of the mod and everything got fixed and also my modded material recipe which I added the patch for got added too.

Adding this to the mines.xml under inspectorTabs fixed the issue for me:

      <recipes>
         <li>Excavate_Steel</li>
         <li>Excavate_Plasteel</li>
         <li>Excavate_Uranium</li>
         <li>Excavate_Silver</li>
         <li>Excavate_Gold</li>
         <li>Excavate_Jade</li>
      </recipes>

Quote from: AngleWyrm on August 17, 2017, 07:19:56 PM
Added CyanSam's bug fix

Its great to know its fixed, but i have used an older verion and now i cannot load my quite long savegame.. any way to open it without the mod or with the updated version? i get this error if i use the new version instead of the old:

Could not load reference to Verse.ThingDef named Mineshaft

(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

SaveableFromNode exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at Verse.Thing.ExposeData () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.ThingWithComps.ExposeData () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at RimWorld.Building_WorkTable.ExposeData () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Verse.ScribeExtractor.SaveableFromNode[Thing] (System.Xml.XmlNode subNode, System.Object[] ctorArgs) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Subnode:
<thing Class="Building_WorkTable"><def>Mineshaft</def><id>Mineshaft64016</id><map>0</map><pos>(128, 0, 133)</pos><health>80</health><stuff>WoodLog</stuff><faction>Faction_20</faction><billStack><bills><li Class="Bill_Production"><recipe>Excavate_Plasteel</recipe><allowedSkillRange>0~20</allowedSkillRange><ingredientFilter><disallowedSpecialFilters /><allowedDefs /><allowedHitPointsPercents>0~1</allowedHitPointsPercents><allowedQualityLevels>Awful~Legendary</allowedQualityLevels></ingredientFilter><repeatCount>1</repeatCount><targetCount>10</targetCount><repeatMode>RepeatCount</repeatMode><storeMode>BestStockpile</storeMode><unpauseWhenYouHave>5</unpauseWhenYouHave></li></bills></billStack></thing>

Quote from: zomb1 on August 27, 2017, 08:59:05 AM
but i have used an older verion and now i cannot load my quite long savegame..

All versions of the mod can be downloaded from the github release page (https://github.com/AngleWyrm/Mines/releases). So if you need a copy of an older version, it's available.

In addition, the version numbers are the date of release, so that can help identify when your save game was saved and so which version number was just prior to that date.

Will this mod work with Beta 18?




Edited to add:  Nope!  So . . . could we get an update for this for Beta 18?

Id love this mod even more if the graphics where more vanilla friendly

Update please?

Please update this mod!  :)  I miss it.

Is this planned to be updated or abandoned?

hi, the mod has been updated on steam, i do not know if the author will update it outside it.
you can check it here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1545681321 (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1545681321)