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Title: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: SzQ on March 08, 2018, 04:38:20 PM
Release date unknown
Might happen, might not
~ SzQ 25 April 2018

(https://i.imgur.com/zhdebsA.png)

Description:
  In the world where everyday you can get an bullet into the chest, arrow to the knee or claw to the eye, people know only few ways of protection. They could make only armor vests and power armors. Until group of mad scientists discovered that it is possible to make various defensive apparel.
This mod aims to fill that hole between: no armor>armor vest>power armor.
Features:

Leather armor....☑ done
Metal armor........☐ in progress
Combat armor....☐ in progress

Screens:

(https://i.imgur.com/NjmVflb.png)

Download:

soon


My first Rimworld mod and first graphics. I appreciate feedback on these 'textures'.
Once these 3 armors are plausible along with 2 helmets i will release mod. However it wont be complete. Here is what i wish this mod to become:
Then i will consider the main part complete and start working on little addon.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Vlad0mi3r on March 08, 2018, 04:50:47 PM
Those textures look really good.

Any chance of making a shield to go with the armour. If you could that would make this mod a winner.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: SzQ on March 08, 2018, 05:11:59 PM
I can paint shields but someone will have to code them.

I think that leather armor will be crafted at tailoring bench. I wont it to be early accessible for tribal players. I am thinking about creating weak metal vest that would be crafted at smith and could be wear along with the leather and metal armors.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: wwWraith on March 08, 2018, 05:56:45 PM
1. <techLevel>Medieval</techLevel> or even Neolithic may be more appropriate for leather armor.
2. I think armor values should be nerfed. They can be further increased when crafted from harder leather types.
3. Same for insulation. 7/-15 looks too much if it's not some "fur" armor.
4. <MoveSpeed>-0.7</MoveSpeed> looks too severe comparing to vanilla equipment. Maybe it's just a typo and it should be -0.07?
5. <layers><li>Shell</li></layers> should be changed to Middle as it is for vanilla armor vest, otherwise wearing both these armors together will be possible.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: SzQ on March 09, 2018, 03:25:01 PM
Thank you wwWraith
1. I think about Medieval but what does it actually change in gameplay? It determine if certain enemies can wear it?
2. Yea i just threw them from armor vest and lowered a little. I will nerf them as well as point 3.
4. I was looking at parka and other apparel and somehow set it to 0.7. Will fix.
5. These armors are going to be shell. They are not meant to have parkas/dusters/jackets on them. So i guess it have to go with "middle" level as well too not be too op. I thought about letting it be wear along with armor vest but i guess it wouldn't be possible to fit armor vest under such armor. You know... immersion.
Thank you for these points. After these armors are done i plan to make some winter equivalents.

I have a question though. If i want set specific workshop to have the recipe how do i set it?
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Harry_Dicks on March 11, 2018, 08:38:44 PM
Awesome!!! Congrats SzQ, I'm loving everything you've put out so far :)

BTW-If you are really considering doing shields, then I would recommend at least looking at what Jecrell is doing with the LotR mod/Jecs Tools; off the top of my head, I think all of the stuff is available to use from it's license, too. Recently there was support added in for shields, they don't count as apparel I believe. This way they can actually protect the whole body, maybe? But I'm not sure, I haven't really looked into it that much, but rather just watching as the updates come along. Either way, since shields were being discussed, I thought it was worth mentioning. Good luck!
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Mitz on March 15, 2018, 02:45:19 PM
very excited for this mod. now if this could slightly replace medieval time's armour so i don't need their ugly socks and boots...
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Vlad0mi3r on March 15, 2018, 07:46:21 PM
Yeah the whole boots and gloves is a layer not needed IMO.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Harry_Dicks on March 17, 2018, 08:47:42 PM
Quote from: Vlad0mi3r on March 15, 2018, 07:46:21 PM
Yeah the whole boots and gloves is a layer not needed IMO.
Agreed.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Mitz on March 18, 2018, 07:58:29 AM
oh! if you need help and everything is just XML's and png/jpg's you have an extra teammate to help out!
i have minor experience with making graphics for rimworld, but i can easily understand XML's. don't expect assemblies from me please...
please don't abandon this, it's gotten so much support, more than my other silly projects.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Ser Kitteh on March 19, 2018, 10:09:09 AM
This reminds me of Fallout's armor! Cool stuff!

If you can get some helmets for the mod, I'll be sure to download it too!
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: SzQ on March 19, 2018, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: Ser Kitteh on March 19, 2018, 10:09:09 AM
This reminds me of Fallout's armor! Cool stuff!
Didn't expected someone to find so quickly my inspiration. Guess i am painting good enough then.
Helemts are on my list too.
(https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/fallout_gamepedia/f/f3/COMBA2A.gif?version=f96529515d8995d42f69346b1c2b6e8d)
Thanks

@Mitz
Thanks for suport, it helps me to motivate myself to continue. XMLs are really small deal in case of simple apparel.
I have problems with body side view. I often resigne because i can't get it right. Soon i will post metal armor.

Once these 3 are complete along with 2 helmets i will release mod. However it wont be complete. Here is what i wish this mod to become:
Then i will consider the main part complete and start working on little addon.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Mitz on March 19, 2018, 04:45:33 PM
i'm trying to think of advice, the armour already looks good though i can suggest to go into your paint program, select the top part, and size it up a bit, but i do suggest afterwards to blend it together again. i'll try to make a fix if you need help! i can give you a head start on design if you like.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Vlad0mi3r on March 19, 2018, 05:20:01 PM
My advice would be focus on 1 to 3 and then release it for players to test and give feedback.

Remember there are a lot of mods out there and there will be things that players want or really good ideas that will help.

Keep going.  :)
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Harry_Dicks on March 19, 2018, 09:05:17 PM
My advice is keep being awesome ;D
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: SzQ on March 20, 2018, 06:02:21 PM
Quote from: Mitz on March 19, 2018, 04:45:33 PM
i can suggest to go into your paint program, select the top part, and size it up a bit, but i do suggest afterwards to blend it together again. i'll try to make a fix if you need help! i can give you a head start on design if you like.
I'm glad you want to help Mitz but you need to express yourself better because i am not sure what are you talking about here.
Maybe it is because i am not native English speaker but i don't think so.

I guess you are either talking about the head image:

(https://i.imgur.com/JdyfM2j.png)

Or it could be the middle part of my leather armor?

Anyway once upon a time i will rework Leather Armor and the demonstrative images will be upgraded with metal armor which might be tomorrow.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Mitz on March 20, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
oh, i'm so sorry, i heard trouble about the sides, the sides didn't look like they were placed on so i thought that idea.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: SzQ on March 20, 2018, 06:30:50 PM
Yea, by the sides i mean the side body view.
Like this one guy in the middle from Chicken Plucker mod.
(https://i.imgur.com/uYVBkPf.png)

I'm going on short leave next week so i will have more time to paint. Hopefully :)
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: The-Eroks on March 21, 2018, 11:26:25 AM
This is fantastic! Keep up the great work  ;D
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: SzQ on March 21, 2018, 06:51:27 PM
No full metal armor today. Updated first welcome image:
(https://i.imgur.com/zhdebsA.png)

Next update will come approximately at Tuesday.
This is where i am with Metal Armor:
(https://i.imgur.com/MdoYmRT.png)
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Mitz on March 22, 2018, 03:29:17 PM
looks great so far! the bottom right's sizing for the armor should be standard for all angles. it looks better than the rest due to being oversized, like comparing real life armor to an average size body.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: SzQ on March 22, 2018, 07:24:29 PM
Thanks Mitz. To help me you need to mark on the picture which part is as it should be and which isn't. Note though that THIN and HULK bodies are just resized standard MALE body type to safe time. They will be repainted in the future.
Soon i will post testing version for download. We will need to start figuring out what the stats should actually be.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Gerrymon on March 22, 2018, 08:09:20 PM
Hey, new mustache!

Really like the pauldron. It fits so well with hulk body. I suggest to switches female and thin's pauldron shape tho,because thin's pauldron looks squashed, while female body shape fits better with the slanted pauldron angle, if you know what i mean.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Mitz on March 23, 2018, 07:22:57 AM
whoops. meant left. auto-type. i type fast while i can't read over well
bottom left was good i meant. heh - i understand the resizing now.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Call me Arty on May 16, 2018, 03:54:30 PM
 Winter armor? Finally! I'm sick and tired of my soldiers freezing in my favorite biomes. Love this QOL stuff you'd figure would've been in the game earlier.
I know you're still developing it actively, but I'm just going to put an idea out for insectoid-chitin armor.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: SzQ on May 25, 2018, 05:47:37 AM
I don't think i will ever make it. I haven't play any game since like 3 or 4 months.
Maybe one day i will sit and draw it but for now there's no time for it.

If someone want i can give the files i made so far. Be warned though, I used GIMP and most of the graphics have multiple layers which are not named.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Chicken Plucker on May 25, 2018, 07:38:23 AM
Hey SzQ! Getting busier and busier I see, nice work with all you have done so far, shame to see you getting delays too

I hope you don't get discouraged from the hobby because you are good 8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Mitz on May 25, 2018, 10:27:45 AM
i'd take up this mod but i'm too busy...
but working in spare time is purrsible.
Title: Re: [B18] Simple Armors
Post by: Silas_ on May 31, 2018, 01:12:19 PM
SzQ, sorry to hear that you're too busy.  C'est la guerre.  If you linked your files, I for one would appreciate it.  No pressure, take care!