Will Rimworld be on steam?
I'll definitely try my hardest to make that happen.
Greenlight is likely, which will mean community voting, which will mean I'll ask you guys to go and vote! It's not up yet, though.
Zero doubt you will pass.
The question with Greenlight is usually not if a game will pass or not if it's reasonably backed, but when will it pass. Valve is very clear about your current ranking, backing-wise, but it's a little more foggy about when the next batch will be published, and what games will be included in. I'm hoping the best for Rimworld, though, and I'll be sure to back it when it will be available on Greenlight :)
This screenshot made me go digging for a greenlight, which ofcourse doesnt exist yet... :(
(http://ludeon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/titlescreen.jpg)
What does greenlighting do, other than more attention from the community?
It's just Valve's way of filtering people trying to get on steam. It gets you on steam, that's it.
The thing with greenlight is that it usually takes a small campaign to get pushed into the top 50 which can take up a lot of the developers' time, especially if it is a one man team, as is the current situation.
Quote from: Tynan on September 18, 2013, 03:11:43 PM
I'll definitely try my hardest to make that happen.
Can we hope to have it available *out* of Steam as well (ideally GoG, but just about anything else, really) ?
Quote from: Brtt on September 20, 2013, 05:09:13 AM
Quote from: Tynan on September 18, 2013, 03:11:43 PM
I'll definitely try my hardest to make that happen.
Can we hope to have it available *out* of Steam as well (ideally GoG, but just about anything else, really) ?
Not a fan of steam?
What gave me out ? ::)
I really don't care about Steam existing, but what really irks me are the "exclusivities".
If I don't want to use a system, I surely don't want to be forced to use it either...
So it's very sad when I find a promising title, and it's not available out of Steam (or Origin, for that matter, but Steam has been there much longer): it ultimately means no money for the devs even though I'd love to shower them with it (don't go crazy, that's a figure of speech).
Don't worry, Steam generally doesn't ask for exclusivity so I'll almost certainly sell the game through other channels (including straight download off ludeon.com).
The problem is not as much Steam asking consistently for exclusivity (doubtful for indie productions anyway, I'd wager) than devs not bothering with anything else, I suppose.
Anyway, you made my day, so I'm preparing the operation so I can have your babies.
(just in case: figure of speech yet again, sorry folks :P)
Steam takes a cut; I'd actually rather just sell it myself. But Steam also provides access to a huge number of customers, and a lot of people like the ease with which it allows you to manage your games. It's really for those reasons that I'll work to get on Steam.
As I mentionned earlier, did you consider GoG (http://www.gog.com/indie) as well ?
It does have some visibility, and I'm sure I'm not the only one only swearing by it...
you should also bid your game at Desura (http://www.desura.com/)
Quote from: xTAMERx on September 21, 2013, 05:45:30 AM
you should also bid your game at Desura (http://www.desura.com/)
Indeed, Desura is a pretty good platform for indies.
Hmmm, the way I understand it, Desura *is* a client you have to use, which means I'm not touching it either.
Quote from: British on September 21, 2013, 07:54:24 AM
Hmmm, the way I understand it, Desura *is* a client you have to use, which means I'm not touching it either.
You don't like clients? They're the future and most online games use them.
There's clients and clients.
I don't mind a client for a specific game (and after all, multiplayer games are all clients... and sometimes servers, but please stop making my thoughts go adrift), but what I *do* mind is a mandatory client for a distribution platform.
Quote from: British on September 21, 2013, 09:05:50 AM
There's clients and clients.
I don't mind a client for a specific game (and after all, multiplayer games are all clients... and sometimes servers, but please stop making my thoughts go adrift), but what I *do* mind is a mandatory client for a distribution platform.
Huh, that's an odd opinion to have but each to their own I suppose. ;)
Yeah, I'll be getting the game up everywhere I can. Desura, GoG, Steam - the more exposure, the better.
Quote from: Tynan on September 21, 2013, 01:25:31 PM
Yeah, I'll be getting the game up everywhere I can. Desura, GoG, Steam - the more exposure, the better.
Oh yea, if you set up the kickstarter at the same time as the greenlight, you should get a decent boost to the votes.
Quote from: Tynan on September 21, 2013, 01:25:31 PM
Yeah, I'll be getting the game up everywhere I can. Desura, GoG, Steam - the more exposure, the better.
You might have seen or heard of it already, but there's an article on RPS regarding IndieGameStand (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/09/25/indiegamestand-launches-store-as-alternative-to-steam/), that might be worth looking it.
While GoG is my go-to place when I want to buy games, it doesn't have that many indie games yet, so IGS might be interesting in that regard (that, and the fact that most of the games there are DRM-free, and there's no client)...
Informations for developers: https://indiegamestand.com/developers/
If Rimworld is put on Steam Greenlight I know a crap ton of people who love playing new games that are still in development.
Quote from: williamknox on September 30, 2013, 12:05:13 PM
If Rimworld is put on Steam Greenlight I know a crap ton of people who love playing new games that are still in development.
Not enough for an auto win on the greenlight.
Yea Valve can be a bit figity now and then :P
Quote from: williamknox on September 30, 2013, 12:13:06 PM
Yea Valve can be a bit figity now and then :P
Indeed, fuck greenlight. ;)
Edit: Huh, 1000th post.
Quote from: Yarkista on September 30, 2013, 03:15:18 PM
Quote from: williamknox on September 30, 2013, 12:13:06 PM
Yea Valve can be a bit figity now and then :P
Indeed, fuck greenlight. ;)
Edit: Huh, 1000th post.
Pretty awesome to have 1000 posts around here already. Congratz on catching it Yark.
I'm not jealous or anything, but the 1000th message to have been posted is this one (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=95.msg1000#msg1000) (notice the 1000 in the URL). Yours takes into account deleted messages, so it's more like the 1000th post still standing.
And I probably have better things to do than to nitpick over the 1000th post on this forum. :-X
Quote from: Hypolite on September 30, 2013, 03:42:30 PM
I'm not jealous or anything, but the 1000th message to have been posted is this one (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=95.msg1000#msg1000) (notice the 1000 in the URL). Yours takes into account deleted messages, so it's more like the 1000th post still standing.
And I probably have better things to do than to nitpick over the 1000th post on this forum. :-X
Huh, jelly? ;)
Yea, the forums are coming along nicely atm.
Quote from: Yarkista on September 30, 2013, 04:04:48 PMHuh, jelly? ;)
Nope, just an unhealthy taste for precision in facts. If it was a french board, I would be all over people making language mistakes. ;)
Quote from: Hypolite on September 30, 2013, 04:10:37 PM
Quote from: Yarkista on September 30, 2013, 04:04:48 PMHuh, jelly? ;)
Nope, just an unhealthy taste for precision in facts. If it was a french board, I would be all over people making language mistakes. ;)
Vu le vu ah se en om wah?
My french is impeccable.
I can't even.
And the off-topic stops here. Steam or stream.
Heyooo! I browse he greenlight and early access categories on Steam a LOT. There's always that hope you might find a hidden gem somewhere and if you're lucky, not many have caught on yet. Curiously enough, though, you're never first to the punch. In fact mostly never since so many people do the same thing. So yeah. To some margin, this game making it to Steam's early access should absolutely result in a good amount of attention for this game. Haters gonna hate, but the way I see it is that Steam has a mutually beneficial relationship with those developers. Especially the self-publishing ones.
Indeed, Steam is a good push. A ton of gamers use Steam. It is a fact that Steam exposes out a lot of indie games with greenlight and the early access program. The cost to a developer to go the Steam route is minimal compared to throwing together their own marketing campaign and wasting time posting as many places as possible where there is potential for their postings to get buried.
Desura is also a good option. It always has the new alpha-funding games section (which I use to browse before I needed to start saving money). I found a ton of sweet games through that as well.
while steam is the topic:
what about SteamOS? Unity supports Linux, may SteamOS(which is based on Linux afaik) be an option in future?
Quote from: garg1 on October 03, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
while steam is the topic:
what about SteamOS? Unity supports Linux, may SteamOS(which is based on Linux afaik) be an option in future?
He likely has no idea at the moment, i suspect we'll have wait a bit longer till it's ported to steamOS
Quote from: Yarkista on October 03, 2013, 05:45:38 PM
Quote from: garg1 on October 03, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
while steam is the topic:
what about SteamOS? Unity supports Linux, may SteamOS(which is based on Linux afaik) be an option in future?
He likely has no idea at the moment, i suspect we'll have wait a bit longer till it's ported to steamOS
Yes I'm utterly clueless.
Quote from: Tynan on October 03, 2013, 06:28:57 PMYes I'm utterly clueless.
There, there. *pat on back*
I'd hope that anything that works on Linux works just fine on SteamOS.
Not that it matters much to me, anyway. All I'm gonna use early SteamOS for is to stream. Since game support is such a high priority for SteamOS, I'm sure it will only get easier to run games on it as they develop it.
My hope is that Valve collapses and everything related to Steam dies in a horrible and painful fashion...
Also, having Steam, which is all about control in a self-contained environment, on Linux, which is the epitome of openness, makes me cry tears of blood.
But yeah, that's just me.
And yes, I have to vent once in a while, more so when I see people going all mushy about Steam :-[
Quote from: garg1 on October 03, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
while steam is the topic:
what about SteamOS? Unity supports Linux, may SteamOS(which is based on Linux afaik) be an option in future?
SteamOS will just be another Linux distro - So basically if it'll run on Linux, it is SteamOS compatible. It's all about making the game Controller compatible if you want to make it a "proper" SOS title though. :)
Quote from: British on October 04, 2013, 04:33:41 AM
My hope is that Valve collapses and everything related to Steam dies in a horrible and painful fashion...
Also, having Steam, which is all about control in a self-contained environment, on Linux, which is the epitome of openness, makes me cry tears of blood.
But yeah, that's just me.
And yes, I have to vent once in a while, more so when I see people going all mushy about Steam :-[
D':
Damn man, you realy hate steam hah ;)
Quote from: Yarkista on October 04, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: British on October 04, 2013, 04:33:41 AM
My hope is that Valve collapses and everything related to Steam dies in a horrible and painful fashion...
Also, having Steam, which is all about control in a self-contained environment, on Linux, which is the epitome of openness, makes me cry tears of blood.
But yeah, that's just me.
And yes, I have to vent once in a while, more so when I see people going all mushy about Steam :-[
D':
Damn man, you realy hate steam hah ;)
wow what a hatred of steam indeed d-;
I on the other hand think its one of the most awsome sites ever.
I buy my stuff from keysites and add it on steam. I can now play wherever and whenever i want.
Quote from: Semmy on October 04, 2013, 11:20:31 AM
Quote from: Yarkista on October 04, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: British on October 04, 2013, 04:33:41 AM
My hope is that Valve collapses and everything related to Steam dies in a horrible and painful fashion...
Also, having Steam, which is all about control in a self-contained environment, on Linux, which is the epitome of openness, makes me cry tears of blood.
But yeah, that's just me.
And yes, I have to vent once in a while, more so when I see people going all mushy about Steam :-[
D':
Damn man, you realy hate steam hah ;)
wow what a hatred of steam indeed d-;
I on the other hand think its one of the most awsome sites ever.
I buy my stuff from keysites and add it on steam. I can now play wherever and whenever i want.
Just to play devils advocate here, what if steam for whatever reason goes offline permanantly, what will happen to all your games?
Quote from: Yarkista on October 04, 2013, 11:48:35 AM
Quote from: Semmy on October 04, 2013, 11:20:31 AM
Quote from: Yarkista on October 04, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: British on October 04, 2013, 04:33:41 AM
My hope is that Valve collapses and everything related to Steam dies in a horrible and painful fashion...
Also, having Steam, which is all about control in a self-contained environment, on Linux, which is the epitome of openness, makes me cry tears of blood.
But yeah, that's just me.
And yes, I have to vent once in a while, more so when I see people going all mushy about Steam :-[
D':
Damn man, you realy hate steam hah ;)
wow what a hatred of steam indeed d-;
I on the other hand think its one of the most awsome sites ever.
I buy my stuff from keysites and add it on steam. I can now play wherever and whenever i want.
Just to play devils advocate here, what if steam for whatever reason goes offline permanantly, what will happen to all your games?
by the time steam has run out my usseless summersale money investments its about 2123
and ill be dead d-;
Quote from: Yarkista on October 04, 2013, 11:48:35 AMJust to play devils advocate here, what if steam for whatever reason goes offline permanantly, what will happen to all your games?
That's a valid question, and I was reluctant at first to be tied by Steam's ability to provide the games I bought, coming from a cardboard video game box background.
But I found out that I wasn't playing anymore with my old physical games anyway, be it because there was incompatibility with my newer OS or because I grew tired of them. That's why even though I found GOG amazing, I never bought more than a few games. I like that there is so many games I played available on GOG, but they'll probably stay as a memory.
Now for the new games available via Steam, if that platform vanishes (which is possible as everything else), I'll continue buying games from somewhere else, probably not the same games as I did (or didn't do) with my physical support video games.
All in all, I enjoy the overall Steam experience, and I'm not attached to a virtual property that I know I wouldn't care to lose access to like I lost access to my physical games before that.
Just dropping in to note that we're still doing well on Steam. That little green line in the bottom left? The last point rises over the course of the day until it creates the next point at the start of the next day. And there are still hours left in today for it to rise :)
(http://puu.sh/4Hrou.png)
Quote from: Semmy on October 04, 2013, 02:08:20 PM
man your doing awsome
Quoting huge
stuff is not awesome, though.
Quote from: British on October 04, 2013, 02:16:35 PM
Quote from: Semmy on October 04, 2013, 02:08:20 PM
man your doing awsome
Quoting huge stuff is not awesome, though.
Sorry british you are completely right.
I tought i deleted the big stuff but my iphone must have fubarred
Muhaha.
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Quote from: Tynan on October 05, 2013, 02:10:28 AM
Muhaha.
(http://puu.sh/4HX9z.png)
i think this is good? :)
Yes that is really good.
It means the game will pop up more often and steam will be notified about it and almost wont be able to get around adding it to greenlight.
With a quality game it's almost just a matter of time before it gets greenlit, it seems. Right now it just looks like RimWorld will have to wait a lot less time. :)
MUHAHAHA!
(http://puu.sh/4IkMI.png)
Quote from: Tynan on October 05, 2013, 02:37:09 PM
MUHAHAHA!
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That looks awesome! How far away is the game from the top 100? Also, is that the point where the game will be allowed on Steam or do they have other criteria?
Quote from: YBenjius on October 05, 2013, 03:15:58 PM
Quote from: Tynan on October 05, 2013, 02:37:09 PM
MUHAHAHA!
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That looks awesome! How far away is the game from the top 100? Also, is that the point where the game will be allowed on Steam or do they have other criteria?
It's an arbitrary number that gets you onto greenlight and steam, valve chooses things with high votes but that's no guarantee that the game will be accepted.
Nope, there's never a guarantee, you are correct. Still, it's encouraging progress.
Quote from: Tynan on October 05, 2013, 04:32:29 PM
Nope, there's never a guarantee, you are correct. Still, it's encouraging progress.
Oh yes, we have a good amount of votes so far.
Quote from: Yarkista on October 05, 2013, 04:28:30 PM
It's an arbitrary number that gets you onto greenlight and steam, valve chooses things with high votes but that's no guarantee that the game will be accepted.
Never knew it worked like this, ah well I think I understand why they don't instantly allow games with a high number of votes. I'm sure RimWorld will make it to Steam :D
Off to a strong start!
I really don't know who that #5 is. Any guesses?
(http://puu.sh/4K50k.png)
Well, just looking at voter-friendly titles that went up on Greenlight not long after RimWorld I'd guess The Mandate, as it looks really good and already has some good change on Kickstarter.
How is going the greenlight? Having the public alpha on steam in time (december 2013 or january 2014 i think) would be fantastic.
It's going well :)
(http://puu.sh/4PeU6.png)
Well fuck me, that's a great result, no.9
Was just able to ask about Greenlight. Fantastic progress.
dammmm. steam cant get around this i think.
lets hope the greenlight soon
This is very interesting. Congrats Ty!
I wonder what the other top 10 games are.
:D :D :D
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Quote from: Tynan on October 16, 2013, 02:49:36 PM
:D :D :D
big picture
Like WOW.
gratz man... good luck with sorting it all out