Hey guys, I just found a "SAME" game on steam called Keplerth, that has bout 99.8% similar art style, 99.9% similar system design with Rimwolrd. Does anyone know is that matters? I actually feel really angry about this game because it just paste everything rimwolrd has to their game, what a shame.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/747200/Keplerth/ (http://store.steampowered.com/app/747200/Keplerth/)
It's NOT identical; in fact, it has some features I'd like to see in RimWorld, to be frank. Very similar? Sure. But RimWorld also has some strong similarities to other games, such as Dwarf Fortress and Gnomoria (minus the Z-levels).
It is what it is. From the look of it — I haven't actually played the game — There isn't much Ludeon could do about it, beyond an expensive (and NOT guaranteed) legal battle. Honestly, more competition in the "colony sim" genre is a good thing, in my opinion.
Did you watch the trailer or just read the description and look at the screenshots?
I does not really come out well in the Description but from the trailer you are directly controlling a single character, so the game play does not look very similar to Rimworld.
While not identical, the game looks VERY similar to Rimworld. Some of the text in the description is also worded in a very similar way to Rimworld's.
The problem here is that it's walking a very thin line. It's not unfair to assume that this game is going to confuse some people and make them think it's a game by the same developer or in the same series. I'm guessing it's a mobile app developer. In that market, it's pretty much the standard to copy something popular and pass it off as your own.
There are different ideas in this game, and since I haven't played it I can't say how similar it is to Rimworld. But the way the Steam page is set up (screenshots, game's logo, wording of the description) makes it look like he's trying to trick people into buying his game when they think they're getting Rimworld.
I don't think this game is actually much like Rimworld. I think it's a mediocre game that they're trying to sell by associating it with something more popular.
It looks more like terraria x rimworld to me.
It's not even a colony management sim. I don't know what drugs you take but I want some
Quote from: cultist on April 21, 2018, 06:31:00 AM
But the way the Steam page is set up (screenshots, game's logo, wording of the description) makes it look like he's trying to trick people into buying his game when they think they're getting Rimworld.
I don't think this game is actually much like Rimworld. I think it's a mediocre game that they're trying to sell by associating it with something more popular.
I don't see how they're trying to mislead people into thinking that it's associated with rimworld. Expect this kind of art style to get more popular since it's easier to do then others, plus we're saturated with pixel art indie games. I also anticipate more top down games since there's so much potential that hasn't been tapped in yet. At some point there will come a game where it's pretty much like Rimworld, and to be honest I welcome it as long as they're not stealing code/assets. I'm still waiting for a FTL clone.
You mean, you all are saturated of this:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS3XGqMQkU1HAj_BBlmQTZSyrJ57KyVexj22Rk6FK2EbGAHCKcS)
And not of this:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a0/35/81/a0358176424be164a342f0ae99b0ebf9.jpg)
There's a big difference here. It's like saying "we're saturated of 3d", when there's shit 3d and good 3d.
Quote from: Jibbles on April 21, 2018, 04:59:27 PMAt some point there will come a game where it's pretty much like Rimworld, and to be honest I welcome it as long as they're not stealing code/assets. I'm still waiting for a FTL clone.
You may enjoy the remake of Space Rangers 2, I think, called "Space Rangers HD: A War Apart (https://www.gog.com/game/space_rangers_hd_a_war_apart)" if you haven't tried it yet. There's an option to play the game as a roguelike =).
"Hey, can I get Rimworld, but with more Chinese Mobile Game in it please?"
"I see you found the 'secret menu' online, huh? Alright, one Keplerth coming right-up."
I definitely see that it took a massive bite off of the Rimworld apple, but it looks like it's taking the Starbound (http://store.steampowered.com/app/211820/Starbound/) approach to Terraria (http://store.steampowered.com/app/105600/Terraria/). Early days, you could call it a clone, but now they've both developed beyond the Coke-and-Pepsi relationship they previously had. I play both for very different reasons. I think Keplerth has some merit, and I hope that it continues into this Don't Starve (http://store.steampowered.com/app/219740/Dont_Starve/) + Rimworld + Realm of the Mad God (http://store.steampowered.com/app/200210/Realm_of_the_Mad_God/) (which - holy shit - is still being updated!) direction it's heading, while Rimworld continues on it's Dwarf Fortress (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/) + Prison Architect (http://store.steampowered.com/app/233450/Prison_Architect/) + FTL (http://store.steampowered.com/app/212680/FTL_Faster_Than_Light/) direction it's going on. Best case scenario, Tynan has the same spiteful bone I have and feels the need to beat it to the punch, with this own new playable races and - while not strictly speaking Z levels - zones and layers to the map. As Bozobub mentioned, a bit of competition could be better than nothing. If it completely shadows Rimworld (which it won't, like how The Witcher didn't kill Skyrim)? Well, we have a better game to play.
this looks like DF adventure mode in rimworld im mean its about controling an individual in an rpg sense there ripping more off of minecraft then anything
It's such a rip off of Rimworld it's not even funny.. You can't compare Gnormia or whatever and DF to Rimworld. Rimworld is one of the first of its kind, and this little "Kleperth" crap even uses the same map generator.
Disgusting.
Quote from: Klitri on April 24, 2018, 08:42:16 AM
It's such a rip off of Rimworld it's not even funny.. You can't compare Gnormia or whatever and DF to Rimworld. Rimworld is one of the first of its kind, and this little "Kleperth" crap even uses the same map generator.
Disgusting.
From the store page for Rimworld
QuoteRimWorld is a sci-fi colony sim driven by an intelligent AI storyteller. Inspired by Dwarf Fortress, Firefly, and Dune.
Also, you're right. There is absoulutely nothing in common between four games in which you are in control of a group of people (exceptions to DF adventure mode and Keplerth) in an uncaring world, while managing their health, food, and other needs, in addition to fighting off fantastical beasts in a grid-based world. Nope, nothing in common there.
I watched someone who mainly plays RimWorld stream this game. Calling it a rip-off of any one game is a knee-jerk reaction and utter nonsense.
Some of the assets are similar to RimWorld, much like how RimWorld has a similar graphic style to Prison Architect. Some of the music is similar. The gameplay is very different.
- The goal and general gameplay remind me of Terraria/Gnomoria/Starbound.
- The dungeon combat reminded me of Stardew Valley.
- The crafting reminded me of [insert generic crafting game here.]
Inspired by? Maybe. A rip-off? Definitely not. It's something else: It's a cute and fun game that can stand on its own.
I'll agree that the artwork is rather similar, so is the perspective.
I don't know enough about the game to make a judgement call, but a quick look at the description and reviews, and I think this is a different concept from Rimworld.
Nah, it's not a copycat by any means.
That is the game industry. Not all work is original, not all ideas come from the author, and that is fine. "Why are so many games similar?" well, sometimes it is a good thing.
Let's talk about a game called "Rogue", if this game didn't allow "copycats" we wouldn't have a genre called Rogue-like that manly translate to "a difficult game with semi-random generated content on each level" This games genre brought forth excellent games, like Spelunky, FTL, Hands of Fate, Darkest Dungeon, Rogue Legacy, Don't Starve, Rimworld (kinda), and many many more.
To bestten what has been created thus far, is an admirable gol for a game studio in 2018.
Quote from: Listen1 on April 25, 2018, 07:08:48 AM
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This games genre brought forth excellent games, like Spelunky, FTL, Hands of Fate, Darkest Dungeon, Rogue Legacy, Don't Starve, Rimworld (kinda), and many many more.
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Sorry to be
that guy but Don't Starve and Rimworld aren't Roguelikes. It's really hard to define, but it's a very specific genre. Rimworld does not meet the criteria, as changes to the Rimworld don't affect any other Rim (same for Don't Starve: You're not going to find your camp on another continent). There are a couple other tangential things to highlight, but this isn't a Rogue-like discussion thread, so I'll hold-off.
-Guy who really likes Rogue-likes/lites.
Quote from: Call me Arty on April 25, 2018, 10:35:34 AM
Quote from: Listen1 on April 25, 2018, 07:08:48 AM
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This games genre brought forth excellent games, like Spelunky, FTL, Hands of Fate, Darkest Dungeon, Rogue Legacy, Don't Starve, Rimworld (kinda), and many many more.
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Sorry to be that guy but Don't Starve and Rimworld aren't Roguelikes...
Yeah, the (kinda) was because of these two games. The definition of rogue-like is thrown alot, and it is really hard to pinpoint what it exactly is (except game that are Like-Rogue). But I use the version of Mark Brown from GMTK that says "Roguelike can be boiled down to Procedural generation and Permadeath" and with that, you can put this characteristics in many genres and it will improve the experience.
I like to think about it this way.
I really don't understand the more hate filled side of this topic? Are people not aware that RimWorld doesn't have some direct claim over similar genres, art directions, sound efforts, etc? Unless someone is misusing the RimWorld name or any of its direct assets I can't fathom there being any sort of issue. Welcome titles that you feel might be a tiny bit similar, don't just shirk them and be disrespectful. I actually bought a copy of this game after reading this thread so lets see how this plays out! :)
Quote from: Ramsis on April 26, 2018, 01:48:09 PM
I actually bought a copy of this game after reading this thread so lets see how this plays out! :)
Day 5, my player character was attacked by several rabbits who went mad for no discernible reason. I have lost three toes, one arm, and a lung. After that, they became infected and died in extreme pain, as there was no-one to administer anesthetic for the surgery. I still don't see why you guys are comparing this to Rimworld. /s
Hah thanks Arty, no honestly I enjoy the game for what it is. Little rough around the edges but find me an early access title that isn't. Its just another survival building game with very small rpg elements to it, game might go somewhere in the next year but for now I feel like I got my initial investment after about an hour or so of playing.
Quote from: Ramsis on April 26, 2018, 03:21:07 PM
. . . might go somewhere in the next year but for now I feel like I got my initial investment after about an hour or so of playing.
Ah, Heat Signature (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifgjEMIqRO4) syndrome, got it. (Cool concept, but once you've boarded one ship, you've boarded them all).
Quote from: Ramsis on April 26, 2018, 01:48:09 PMI actually bought a copy of this game after reading this thread so lets see how this plays out! :)
I didn't go that far, but I did put it on my Wishlist and Follow list on Steam. Looks interesting enough to keep an eye on it for sure!
Quote from: Call me Arty on April 25, 2018, 10:35:34 AM
Quote from: Listen1 on April 25, 2018, 07:08:48 AM
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This games genre brought forth excellent games, like Spelunky, FTL, Hands of Fate, Darkest Dungeon, Rogue Legacy, Don't Starve, Rimworld (kinda), and many many more.
. . .
Sorry to be that guy but Don't Starve and Rimworld aren't Roguelikes. It's really hard to define, but it's a very specific genre. Rimworld does not meet the criteria, as changes to the Rimworld don't affect any other Rim (same for Don't Starve: You're not going to find your camp on another continent). There are a couple other tangential things to highlight, but this isn't a Rogue-like discussion thread, so I'll hold-off.
-Guy who really likes Rogue-likes/lites.
I would argue that Don't Starve can be technically classified as a roguelike, though I do admit that it stretches the definition. I think that a roguelike not only has permadeath and procedural generation, but also a specific end that you're trying to achieve, rather than go on forever. And Don't Starve does have a story with an ending. There's also a meta-progression system in place, which most other modern roguelikes have.
Just noticed that came on Steam, and really got me enraged. Not by the fact that its a knock-off, by far RimWorld will stay as the most popular title in this war, but the fact that countless sprites and textures have basically been stolen from RimWorld. Now it's really sad to see when someone who has made mods or was some other kind of insider for Rimworld, decided to make profit from it. While we acknowledge what games has Rimworld rooted from, this Chinese unidentified developer doesn't even bother to give credit of where he got those ideas.
Its a question of views.
Quote from: RyanRim on April 29, 2018, 06:15:25 AM
Just noticed that came on Steam, and really got me enraged. Not by the fact that its a knock-off, by far RimWorld will stay as the most popular title in this war, but the fact that countless sprites and textures have basically been stolen from RimWorld. Now it's really sad to see when someone who has made mods or was some other kind of insider for Rimworld, decided to make profit from it. While we acknowledge what games has Rimworld rooted from, this Chinese unidentified developer doesn't even bother to give credit of where he got those ideas.
Its a question of views.
I doubt any of that is true. If you look up a few posts you'll see the admin of these boards purchased the game and played it. He didn't seem to think anything bad was going on.
The artwork certainly is very similar to Rimworld, but after looking at the trailers and reading some early steam reviews it seems quite different on many things but the visual style. However, even if it were similar I wouldn't mind. Why? This statement will undoubtedly ruffle feathers but I think developer interest in Rimworld is dying. If it is were to be similar to Rimworld then all the better, Kerplerth at least has fresh new life in it and dev activity/interest.
Why do I think dev interest Rimworld is dying? New mod content of course is continuing (and thank god it is), but I've been noticing less and less dev interest in the game for many months now. Even before the last announcement back in January that the game would be made 1.0 the developer (and player) activity on this forum has been waning. The devs hardly announce anything on the forums or want to discuss new ideas. Equally the changes/added content from version A17 to B18 were hardly ground breaking, and I think I read somewhere that the move to final version 1.0 would also not add content.
Tynan and the other devs may well be busy providing updates on reditt and twitter as they have done before, I don't know, but on the game's dedicated forum it is like a ghost town. If I were buying Rimworld today as a new customer I'd be pretty disheartened joining the game's dedicated forum and seeing how little is going on. I certainly expect interest to drop after version 1.0 has been out a while, but not before.
I don't necessarily blame the devs for having a lack of interest. This game has been in development for over 4 years and they probably do want to move on and do new things, which I understand. However for me as a player this saddens me, as they have a really great base game and so much more they can add. If a similar looking game like Kerplerth has recently come out, and has attracted quite a lot of new players in the process, then it does seem to indicate players are still interested in this format of game. The devs you think would capitalize on this interest in order to drum up more sales and promote the game, but instead just seem happy being silent and letting the modders carry their game forward, again suggesting to me they have a lack of interest. Shame, as this was honestly one the best games I've played in years and I'm sad to see it fizzle out.
Keplerth may be similar, and it may unashamedly borrow some art, content and (maybe) even ideas, but at £8 I'm happy to try this given that the interest in Rimworld is drying up.
I think you are merely disillusioned by the transition to "finished product". As any game transitions from Alpha to Beta to Release, updates inevitably occur less and less often. Does that mean development has *stopped*? Not even close, but there are fewer bugs and fewer *major* mechanics changes, as time goes by. But the game is now considered largely "feature-complete", and any changes will, of necessity, largely be relatively minor; you don't destroy the entire framework of a mostly complete game for shits and grins. This will last for an indeterminate period of time =).
Literally any game you care to mention, you'll find this was/is the case. Relax. Tynan IS still active, on Reddit and elsewhere. Your mountain is the abode of moles, Sir/Madam.
Let me stop you all (and future repliers) right in your tracks.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/747200/discussions/0/1698294337772121774/
TARO has already explained that the artstyle RimWorld used is far simpler for them to build off of considering there's only 3 people to their team. That said, very [few] things look similar to RimWorld. Yes, pawn and NPC design/movements look similar and rock blocks look similar, but that's where it ends. It plays far differently than RimWorld in that you control [ONE] pawn personally (you even have attack animations) and do everything yourself. This plays close to Forsaken Isle more than anything else with a fairly similar look to RimWorld. Let's also not forget about RimWorld's inspirations so calling Keplerth a copy-cat or a rip-off is highly illogical and senseless in the entirety of their definitions. RimWorld was [not] the first to use this artstyle (nor will they obviously be the last) and Ludeon does not have a monopoly on the texture design.
Again, it's a stepping stone to make things easier on TARO given their 3-man team as they've already been transparent about. I also don't want to hear about more complex games looking "different" or "better" being developed by one person. TARO likes this style. It works for their vision. They even plan to include MP down the line and as we all know, 3/4 of RimWorld's playerbase wants that featurette that they're not going to get. So, a game that looks relatively close to RimWorld but with MP? You can see where I'm going with this.
Calm down and let TARO do their thing.
Didn't Rimworld get its art from Prison Architect anyway? So... Rimworld is already a copy. I think they did some commercial arrangement, but you get my point. This game may has done the same thing.
Quote from: saulysw on May 02, 2018, 10:33:44 PM
Didn't Rimworld get its art from Prison Architect anyway? So... Rimworld is already a copy. I think they did some commercial arrangement, but you get my point. This game may has done the same thing.
Rimworld used the same style as PA, not the actual art.
I agree with you that that game is totally like Rimworld. Non creative and boring.
So bizarre to see a bunch of people dumping on a random EA game on Steam because of superficial similarities to Rimworld. Is this some sort of tribalism? Camp Rimworld? Chill out.
It's aesthetic may be, probably is inspired by Rimworld, but that's not the same as plagiarism. And it's clearly not the same game; it's an RPG, not a colony management sim.
I remember when DOOM came out, and then there were other first person shooters. Should Id have had a monopoly on first person shooters?
Rimworld didn't even originate it's art style, and Rimworld itself is a synthesis of other games (Dwarf, Fortress, Prison Architect, probably some others I'm unaware of). But, that doesn't matter, because a great game is always better than the sum of its parts.
Game looks interesting, thx for mentioning it!
(The only legit question is: did it use any of the art assets that is owned solely by Rim world?)
Quote from: pktongrimworld on May 09, 2018, 09:24:22 PM
(The only legit question is: did it use any of the art assets that is owned solely by Rim world?)
No, it did not; that's already been explained in this thread.
Seems more like a gameplay mix between Don't Starve, Minecraft, and Terraria. Other than blocks and walls, most of the artwork looks original and has a very old school MMORPG esque to it.
Other than a bit of art, NOTHING is similar to Rimworld. Both serves a completely different experience. One provides a colony sim with tons of drama while the other provides RPG with base building elements.
The game looks very interesting though, although the art is putting me off, looks too...rough and unpolished.
Rimworld forms
Most games you can say are copycats of other games even though most popular games are inspired by other games and their mechanics like take for instance fortnight which if you go down the line went from coping the general idea of PUBG which was from H1Z1 king of the hill or now just (king of the hill) which then you can say copied from DayZ (I don't know if it goes any farther) since H1Z1(or now just survive) is a zombie apocalypse game. (I used fortnight since it's really gaining popularity) Another example would be The Watch dogs series and GTA series. Since both games are still somewhat popular it was kinda of natural to for some people to assume that Watch dogs were trying to copy GTA's approach to open world and the occasional fights between your character and the cops. Other then that that was it for the Similarities, Rimworld and K(sorry forgot how to spell this game we are arguing about lol) yes their art may be similar and the "we need to survive" aspect is also the same, but really the two games are as similar as watch dogs series is similar to GTA series. If people aren't allowed to become inspired from other games to create their own games what is the point of any future game to be created if the creative part of it is shattered since they couldn't use the mechanics or art style of another game.
I read through this thread and just shake my head multiple times over how toxic and disrespectful multiple members of our community are being over a single game on Steam that has a similar look to RimWorld despite:
1. Not having any point for point RimWorld graphics
2. Literally nothing of ours was stolen
3. The game is closer to Don't Starve in terms of actual gameplay (I bought the game)
Most of the negativity in this thread has been a swirling vortex of undeserved hate and drama and I must admit I don't care for it in the slightest bit. Chill out, there is no need to go hating on a sister title in the indie market that is just being itself. They didn't hurt us, they didn't try to do anything to disrespect RimWorld, leave 'em alone.
Sorry If my comment seemed in any way negitive just trying to prove a point
Blindly calling Kleperth a copy-cat of RimWorld is akin to blindly calling a caucasian a copy-cat model of bleached-white Africans.
Just because something appear SIMILAR doesn't automatically means its the SAME.
Besides, if one is sincerely expect 'original' ~ DO create THAT 'original' instead of bitching about nothing significant and non-constructive.
At the least, I still DON'T see a stable MOD for RimWorld that can do what Kleperth does ~ and its already 2019.
Quote from: eddie00000000 on January 01, 2019, 08:22:53 PM
its already 2019.
You know that this post was made in April 20, 2018...
Basically kinda Necromancy by Necroposting here...
Besides Keplerth is more of a game in the blood of Don't Starve, Minecraft and Single player Survival Games... The Workshop Page in Steam is small with some mods, but that doesn't mean its a bad game, it has some good stuff like playing different types of races like elves for example...
Some people just want riff off stuff that are Copy-Cats even though they are similar or inspired, and I remember the Games in the PS3 known as Infamous and [Prototype] and fans of of those games started calling the other Ripoff, And Fans of them don't want you get the other one, But i did anyways for my PS3 and both of them are Good games with strengths and weakness in terms of gameplay and storytelling, Depends on the person or the player's taste...
I do wonder where these one-hit necromancer wonders come from.
Normally I would chalk it up to a spambot / advertiser / phisher / hacker, except I don't see anything actually dangerous in eddie's post.... just a random rant. Is it possible AI has gotten so good that it can imitate an ordinary drunk forum poster?
Quote from: Shurp on January 02, 2019, 09:14:31 PM
I do wonder where these one-hit necromancer wonders come from.
Normally I would chalk it up to a spambot / advertiser / phisher / hacker, except I don't see anything actually dangerous in eddie's post.... just a random rant. Is it possible AI has gotten so good that it can imitate an ordinary drunk forum poster?
It's possible a spambot posted, eddie saw the thread and replied, then a moderator deleted the spam post.
No, eddie is certainly the necromancer in question -- one post, no other activity, not even online for a full minute. I just can't figure out why.
Don't forget for guests or new people all postings are new.
Unless they are took a closer look on the date they maybe don't notice it is an older posting.
Or he just decide his answer is worth it (maybe he is a fan ok Keplerth) to revive it.
Quote from: Canute on January 03, 2019, 05:21:32 AM
Don't forget for guests or new people all postings are new.
Unless they are took a closer look on the date they maybe don't notice it is an older posting.
Or he just decide his answer is worth it (maybe he is a fan ok Keplerth) to revive it.
Oh there's a thought. Maybe he works for them and has visuals on link information, and saw that there was a link to it from here, and decided to set us straight :)
Yea i'm now starting to think that some Troll or Bot outside of this forums kinda gave Eddie a link to this post... Only to do some Necromancy and got mislead by some spambot linking to this post...
No harm feelings done to Keplerth it's a Good and Fine and Dandy Survival Game with some of it's merits like being a Fantasy with a mix of Sci-Fi...
Now Can we get a Moderator to Lock this Post before another unfortunate soul or someone else accidentally "Necroposts" here?
I totally agree. This was discussed enough in this post and necroing doesn't really help.
If someone really wants to discuss it again, please open a new topic as I'll lock this one for now.