I really like the idea of Xenohumans in Rimworld. Some of the first mods I installed were the Cactacae (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=974612964), Apini (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=31076.0), Leeani (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1240151337), and Crystalloid (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=26852.0) mods, which undoubtedly set in place my necessity for them even after several updates. The small bits of culture snuck into backstories, design, unique researches, and even small details like comfortable temperature added so much more depth than "get the greedy guy the nice bedroom" and "we have a valuable pawn who's a pyromaniac; start replacing the wooden floors". That being said, I will now highlight all of the confirmed Xenohumans that we know of in the canon as it currently is.
The best definition we have of Rimworld's brand of xenohumans is provided by the Ordo Historia in the
Cryptosleep Revival Briefing (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fUO3KKbAbTxMP1lqphnnodY0NPoOVblCUkDw-54MDUc/pub) (think of it to the closest thing we have to an Encyclopedia Rimtanica at this point in time). It is described in the section "The biology of humanity" as such:
QuoteOrdo Historia records list thousands of reported contacts with alien life. However, in every case that has been thoroughly investigated, Ordo inquierers have discovered that the alien was, in fact, simply another branch of humanity.
Beyond the technological diversity of our species, there is also a broad biological diversity. Some populations have evolved under the selection pressures of pre-industrial life or on a world of great heat or cold, or high or low gravity, or even worlds bathed in the toxic residue of hyper-destructive wars. Though almost all such xenohumans (as they are called) are recognizably descended from the original Earth stock, their morphology is highly variable. Some are giants; other are tiny or squat. Some are dark; others pale as snow. Some are hairy like animals; others perfectly smooth. Diets, dispositions, and chemical and radiological tolerances vary significantly.
More alien are those xenohumans that carry genetic traits that were engineered instead of evolved. Across the long history and thousands of cultures of humanity, people have applied a dizzying array of modifications to themselves. Some were created to adapt people to a specific environment. Others were made to create better soldiers, pilots, or generals. Some were engineered to satisfy a bizarre fashion trend in a society where bioengineering is available to anyone with money. Such modifications are rarely seen in their original form by anyone besides the culture that created them. However, they live on in their descendants long after their originating culture was erased by planetary catastrophes.
For example, records tell of an entire world repopulated by the descendants of a small group of bio-engineered soldiers; the only survivors of a planetary nuclear war. Everyone on this world carried an obsessive sense of duty, minimal sexual impulses, and little sense of creativity. This culture became dominated by a conservative pan-planetary religion with little interest in technology. It lasted eleven centuries in this state until it was invaded by a stellar neighbor (who wisely avoided ground combat in favor of orbital bombardment).
This gives us a couple things to go off of. Firstly, there are two types of xeno: Evolved and Engineered. Secondly, it is possible for a population of humans to progress far enough from another population that the resulting changes to their bodies are enough to be seen as alien, rather than human. Thirdly: All xenos are based on a human form, meaning our "aliens" are probably closer to "painted humans" (Klingon, Twi'lek, Asari) than not (Gorn (http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Gorn), Hutt (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hutt/Legends), Krogan (https://masseffectandromeda.wiki.fextralife.com/Krogan)).
Beyond that, we have only a handful of those thousands of xenohumans known to us, which I have divided into two groups: The explicits (plainly explained and understood) and the speculatives (we only have bits and pieces of them).
Let's start with the Explicits. SoldiermorphsEngineered humans similar to the Spartans of Halo. They're military pawns intended to listen to orders, execute them with brutal efficiency, and eventually be replaced with the latest model. Additionally, they are composed of two classes: The Grunts and the Commanders, with commanders differing in their superior intelligence and calculating skills.
QuoteSoldier variants carrying any of a large number of traits that various militaries have seen fit to bestow upon their people. Typically, they have large muscles and perfect eyesight. Some have minimized metabolisms made to digest a single kind of long-lasting nutrient solution, to make army logistics easier. Their lifespans are short - usually between ten and thirty years - and they grow up very fast. But the most significant differences are psychological. Engineered grunt soldiers are obedient, sense pain only in a distant way, obsessed with learning about weapons and war, and carry a strong need to be part of something larger than themselves. They are deliberately lacking in abstract intelligence and creativity. Engineered commanders are highly analytical, fascinated with military history, utterly cold under pressure, and masters at spatial visualization.
Gravity "Elves"/DwarvesAn evolved group of xenos, their physiology is based upon their home planet. "Elves" (not called elves, I just like that term) are products of weak gravity. This is reflected in their relative twigginess compared to humans. G-Dwarves, on the other hand, are stockier and smaller than humans, thanks to originating from higher-gravity planets.
QuoteGravity variations create new body structures. People from low-g adapted populations are lighter, taller, and weaker than those from weightier environments. The most extreme examples are the gravity dwarfs, 3-foot-tall xenohumans from worlds of over 2g of gravity. Their short and stocky shape lets them live and work in comfortably in such oppressive g-pulls. They even have a noted preference for short and underground dwellings. It's unresolved whether this preference is cultural or genetic in origin.
Designer MatesEngineered at birth to the eventual owner's tastes. Their main distinguishing features are odd colors and an ingrained submissiveness similar to the soldiermorphs. Unlike soldiermorphs - or any other xeno, for that matter - have almost no useful skills or talents. Maybe it would be worth feeding them and keeping them safe to sell them off later?
QuoteSome worlds engineer their idea of perfect mates for the rich and powerful. Such specimens are created with bodies to match the fashions of their homeworlds and the tastes of their owners. They tend to be obsessively submissive and devoted, totally without jealousy or self-regard, artistically inclined and endlessly cheerful. Such traits do not last long in an unrestricted evolutionary environment because they are so easy to exploit, but engineered mates are sometimes kept in cryptosleep long after their creation, to be traded into a post-catastrophe market that can no longer create them. The main contact most of us will ever have with such specimens is through their descendants, who, while they have most of the traits of the original in only a very diluted form, still occasionally express Mendelian traits like impossible eye shades, streaks of multicolored hair, or artistic patterns on the skin.
Now, for the speculatives. Fashion GenesEngineered. What you'd probably find in a low budget Sci-Fi B-movie. Essentially: "Let's put what we could find in the makeup room after the latest star wars finished production on somebody and call them non-human." Could essentially just be the humans we have, except with purple skin or a taller "thin" body type.
QuoteFashion-driven genetic modifications are often applied during later life instead of prenatally, and are most often cosmetic and skin-deep. Variations in hair and skin color are common. More exotic modification add shining crests, color-changing skin and eyes, reshaped or elongated bodies, and colored nails, feathers, or fur.
Atmospheric Adaptants. Those native to Africa are naturally a tad better at living there (darker skin for constant sun exposure, longer eyelashes for dust and sand in the air, taller bodies to better distribute heat) than others (Caucasians are far more prone to skin cancer and sunburn, brighter eyes more sensitive to light, more compact bodies hold heat too well). Similarly, xenohumans adapted to fit their environment, but in fare more extreme cases than more sunshine. We might expect those in the extreme deserts to have leathery skin and a more reptilian physiology to deal with the intense heat, for example.
QuoteAquatic-adapted strains who can withstand breathing very high gas pressures and even survive days of immersion by exchanging oxygen through the skin (no true permanently-aquatic fish people have ever been confirmed).
Speculatives found in Backstories RaidersThe vaguest of the xenos, there's not really any detail on them. We can assume, however, that they were either tough or influential enough to justify the use of Special Forces. Whether it's one "breed" of xeno, or an organization akin to Halo's Covenant, we don't know.
Source: Special Forces backstory.QuoteGive me a reason to kill - a good reason! NAME was a soldier and a skilled one - so skilled that he entered the special forces to battle militants and xenohuman raiders. He never imagined himself a lone hero, but he played his part in the group well.
AbductorsOnce again: vague . . . but now we at least know these guys have a goal of some sort. The abductors - I assume - are into abducting and experimenting humans to better understand their genetic structure, but can be assumed to not be physically strong (a growing human being capable of dealing with and escaping multiple of them). This leads one to believe that they are either so far removed from humans they forgot what it was to be one, or simply see them as "other". Perhaps similar to the Roswell Grey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_alien) (abduction, experimentation, physically weak while mentally superior, observers). Could also just be
Gravity Elves, who are essentially weaker than humans in every degree other than reaching for things off the top shelf. This would explain why they were overpowered by a human who's anywhere between adolescent to a young adult. They'd probably be real interested in finding a way to make themselves human-strong.
Source: Abductee backstoryQuoteNAME was abducted by xenohumans when he/she was still a baby. They experimented on him/her to understand his/her genetic structure. As he/she grew up, NAME grew a little bit too big and strong for his/her captors and eventually escaped.
Gnomes.Whether they're the garden, fantasy, or some other variety, they are - apparently - a kind of human.
Source: G-Nome Sculptor backstoryQuoteNAME was engineered in a lab as part of the G-nome Project. He/She was implanted at birth with encyclopedic knowledge of all aspects of xenobiology.
The G-nome scientists nicknamed him/her Gizmo and occupied him/her with sculpting. He/She developed a love of sculpting gnomes and gnome accessories.
Hillbillies.Furred and adapted to colder environments. Seemingly violent, whether it is due to their specific psychology or lack of cohesion with humankind is unknown. May very well just be fuzzier humans. Can be assumed as capable of operating banjos and partaking in alcohol that humans could.
Source: Hillbilly Prodigy backstory.QuoteBorn on a cold hillbilly planet inhabited mainly by furred xenohumans, NAME grew up to the sound of bar fights and shootouts. Though his/her childhood was spent playing the banjo and working as a mechanic, his/her abnormal intelligence made him want something more; he/she entered medical school at age twenty.
Now, brief Q & A.
Q: Do you honestly expect any of these to make it into the game?
A: No, probably not. Tynan's already got to deal with not breaking what he has, in addition to other long-requested additions such as vehicles, new forms of power generation , and pawn behavior that's probably going to provide far more flavor to the game than a pawn with some slightly tweaked stats and a fresh coat of paint. Plus, the modders can already do some impressive things with races. Modifying the game itself to something that plays completely different? That's more Tynan's thing.
Q: What did you procrastinate on to write this?
A: My English paper due in three and a half hours. I'm pretty passionate about my xenos.
Q: Why should we care about these filthy xenos?
A: Variety is the spice of life. Currently, the biggest gameplay changes we get in colonies are due to traits and the tile you spawned in. The issue is that all colonies start to look the same after a certain amount of time. Desert, tundra, temperate forest, hell, even modded biomes like caves and nuclear wastelands! Every colony has a patch of renewable energies that is always one or all of the three we currently have, there's a big fridge, some hydroponics because you can't trust nature to be reliable and fast, heating and cooling - either due to climate fluctuations or to balance each other out. Meanwhile, some of the best xeno mods out there make you change how you play in major ways, or they atleast give you a viable alternative. I take this moment to praise the Apini and the Crystalloid mods mentioned above, and really need more attention.
The Apini -if you didn't click the above link like some kind of savage- are, well, bee people. They're sweet and peaceful. They don't like mountains, which us players do. "Well then, how do you make them viable? No stone, no steel, what're we supposed to do?" Beeswax! They take wood and some sort of organic material (haygrass, smokeleaf, etc) and turn it into a usable material for construction and weapon crafting. Eventually, this leads to honey production, a highly valuable commodity that sells for a lot, and makes your colonists -bee or otherwise- real happy. Their backstories are naturally inclined to reflect this less turtley, more social/growing based community. Sure, you'll lack defenses, but the ability to make such a large volume of silver and beeswax walls combined with an inclination to animal husbandry can supplement this.
The Crystalloids are special in that they can force you out of your usual habits of playing. How? They've got pretty neat brains, in that they've got a "psionic node". This means that their consciousness is ramped-up a fair amount (making them faster at pretty much everything), though they're far more sensitive to psychic events and pain. Your super-worker could be crippled like a human with the wimp perk. Plus, they've got a special relationship with crystals. There are special psionic hotspots around the map that can produce free, infinite energy, just not a lot of it (similar to geothermal vents). These areas also boost the capabilities of Crystalloids. This generally promoted sprawling bases that took more advantage of the map than the mountain-covered edges or the absolute center.
Neither of these quick summaries, of course, fully encapsulate how much I love the xenohuman mods I've played with or my affinity for the general idea of them. Regardless, they exist in the canon (as I've well layed-out) and have been observed in community content to add a lot to the game that terrain and traits really can't without either going extreme. We don't even need anything too crazy or game-changing, either. A human with brighter hair or more bluish skin than normal could be seen as trivially easy to implement, a gravity dwarf would be a matter of a few new textures and messing with existing numbers (we don't even need more backstories, it's almost certain that a civilization settled on a planet with stronger gravity). If decidng what kind of features you wanted to add to xenohumans was too much, then CHJees's Androids (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=35663.0) mod does a great job at making a new type of pawn without stretching the realms of believability or imagination.
In summary?
Aliens are cool. I hope you all agree, or were at least enlighted to some information you didn't previously know.
Really interesting. Makes me want to draw xenos.
Ugh. No thanks.
Foreign human cultures are alien enough, and i dont see the need for xenohumans to be added to the mix. Flesh out the currently HILARIOUSLY-underdeveloped rimworld cultures before adding more shit, please.
Not to mention that the soldiers described in thr fiction primer would be hilariously uneffective as soldiers, but what-have- you.
I think Gravity-Elves should be called "Tallmen" instead.
Elves or Tallmen are better off at being scientists or artists etc. Since the low-g adapted environments made not only them tall but lighter and also brittle. They are better off in the rims being workers doing the crafting or the cooking and other tasks that are not dumb labor but in combat there better off using long ranged weapons such as sniper rifles in vanilla since in melee or in a firefight they can almost fall down quicker than a colonist with a wimp trait. But i can see having a tallman working at the colony cleaning or being a cook or crafting masterwork weapons or art.
Designer Mates do not last long in an unrestricted evolutionary environment as said in the fiction primer making them mostly useless in everything except to their partners being completely loyal to them.
Will not get them into my colonies.
Quote from: Boston on May 01, 2018, 06:59:17 AM
Not to mention that the soldiers described in thr fiction primer would be hilariously uneffective as soldiers.
Kind of funny. But i at least i can say that they can tank hits or take a beating out of them making them tanks or punching bags.
I can say that a unmodified human can beat one if it was using a high quality weapon and wearing power armor.
i would use Soldiermorphs to haul junk in the colony though and throw them to fend off raids. Since they make good bullet sponges :P
I've always wanted xenohumans in Rimworld. My modlist has LTF, Cutebolds, Early Man Races, and stuff like that, in order to have a unique story, and awesome ragtag colonies.
I see the potential in many of these races you suggested, even Perfect Mates
Soldiermorphs:
I keep thinking of a xenomorph in a tank, but sadly that's not what Tynan was thinking. Shame. Anyway, having their blood clot fast and making them real beefy, as well as a higher break threshold, would make them valued members of my colony. Close combat units who don't get one punched by a kobold would be nice.
Grav Elves:
I like the idea of tall, brittle geniuses who can get their ass handed to them by anyone. They would be arrogant (thinking themselves as the elves of legends), but skilled at finer things, like crafting and medicine.
Grav Dwarfs:
Strong armed and livered smallfolk would be cool, and I think it would make mountain bases a even better concept.
Mates:
These are tough to like, in Rimworld they would die fast. However, The Primer said something like "They may seem obedient and naive, but in a harsh environment they lose it quickly. Maybe they can toughen up and do some grunt work, while also providing slight mood boost to everyone in range: maybe even the raiders will hesitate to strike them? (Nah, who am I kidding, all thoughts of mercy went out the window once one of them came back without a left lung.)
Raiders:
Very vague. I wonder what kind. The orky kind or the pirate kind?
Greys:
I can't help but see an opportunity to use hypersensitive pawns to our advantage, like these Greys being able to talk through them and buff them up.
Quote from: KozmoD on May 01, 2018, 01:38:30 AM
Really interesting. Makes me want to draw xenos.
Do it. If you get something exciting enough to grab attention or plausible enough to get added to the game, it could mean a lot, especially if you put it in the art topic (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=13372.0) for extra publicity.
Quote from: Boston on May 01, 2018, 06:59:17 AM
Ugh. No thanks.
Foreign human cultures are alien enough, and i dont see the need for xenohumans to be added to the mix. Flesh out the currently HILARIOUSLY-underdeveloped rimworld cultures before adding more shit, please.
Not to mention that the soldiers described in thr fiction primer would be hilariously uneffective as soldiers, but what-have- you.
Don't you see, my friend? The addition of these xenohumans
is fleshing-out the Rimworld cultures. Keep in mind, we're playing Rimworld, not Glitterworld, Urbworld, or Midworld. What do we have from glitterworlds? A couple backstories and some medicine. If we added any number of the engineered xenos, we have more to go off of then just some quality medicine. They'd have foreign ideals, and really look like something out of the rest of the universe. Otherwise, how fleshed-out are those listed backstories without the xenos they mention? "Oh, yeah, there are entire majority-xenohuman planets out there, and they have enough influence to threaten baseline humanity, but it's chill because we don't let them on ships that may veer of-course and onto a remote Rimworld with no hope for rescue."
Also, where do you get the idea that soldiermorphs would make for poor soldiers? I've rarely -if ever- had a soldier that dropped from blood loss or dismemberment before pain just made them fall down while writing "kidnap me" on their forehead. Plus, their obedience probably means no more "I ate some insect meat without a table earlier today, I'm just going to sadly wander into a firing line." If anything, they'd suck as standard workers, since they're mentioned as only being able to eat one kind of food, and suck at anything intellectual.
Quote from: Kirby23590 on May 01, 2018, 09:14:53 AM
I think Gravity-Elves should be called "Tallmen" instead.
. . .
Designer Mates do not last long in an unrestricted evolutionary environment as said in the fiction primer making them mostly useless in everything except to their partners being completely loyal to them. . .
Will not get them into my colonies.
Now, while I support the "Tall Men" suggestion, I would ask that you withhold judgement on these designer mates. Say we bond them to a colonist, like an animal. They get a relationship, and a massive mood boost. Now that they're obedient to someone, say that colonist ask them to, say, recruit a raider. Picture it: You've been stuck on this Rimworld for years. Even if someone took a liking to you after you returned with some prisoner covered in blood, and even if you did get to see what they have under all the scrap-metal armor, animal skins, and dirt, there isn't exactly an abundance of moisturizer and Brazilian wax kits laying around the Rim. Now, imagine this person with an otherworldly beauty walks into your cell. They smell like flowers, their hair is a fine lavender color, and they have the cutest doe-eyes you ever did see. Don't you think that'd have a better effect on you than the one-eyed guy carrying a rifle and a couple fewer fingers than the average human should have?
-or, y'know, you could just feed them before selling them or their art for some relatively high-price, like the masterwork clothes you have that you don't want to waste on a pawn who's only going to get it all bloody and internal-organy.
Quote from: Jackalvin on May 01, 2018, 01:31:28 PM
I see the potential in many of these races you suggested, even Perfect Mates
. . .
Greys:
I can't help but see an opportunity to use hypersensitive pawns to our advantage, like these Greys being able to talk through them and buff them up.
Oh, no, these aren't suggestions. As you can read in my book, all of these xenos are mentioned in the game, I simply wanted to raise awareness for them and hopefully get some other people interested.
I like your idea for the Greys. Maybe they've been permanently warped by one of the ancient artifacts we haven't encountered yet amongst all of the mental soothers and psychic shock lances? Maybe they were the first to try contact or colonize one of the ascendant worlds (also mentioned in the fiction primer). If a single shot from a single one of those could put you in a state of bliss or cripple you, imagine what an entire planet made out of that tech could do to change a population?
Quote from: Call me Arty on May 01, 2018, 03:40:18 PM
I would ask that you withhold judgement on these designer mates. Say we bond them to a colonist, like an animal. They get a relationship, and a massive mood boost. Now that they're obedient to someone, say that colonist ask them to, say, recruit a raider.
Don't you think that'd have a better effect on you than the one-eyed guy carrying a rifle and a couple fewer fingers than the average human should have?
-or, y'know, you could just feed them before selling them or their art for some relatively high-price, like the masterwork clothes you have that you don't want to waste on a pawn who's only going to get it all bloody and internal-organy.
Huh didn't thought of that.
I can use a perfect mate pawn to my weird abrasive or a depressive colonist who lives in the corner but is my only good doctor and the one who crafts high quality items since his pet cat got killed by a raider from a few hours ago and make sure the perfect mate makes sure that he doesn't go in a insulting spree or a worse mental break. ( I don't know if they could take an abrasive colonist's words and not get too upset or something like that. )
And that they have an area of effect that gives a mood bonus similar to the Psychic emanator coming from Jackalvin's idea.
Maybe i prefer fighters or productive pawns or those who could haul things? Maybe i could see if i could get a lot of silver if it's better than selling thrumbo and elephant horns or organs coming from a least favorite raider or colonist.
Quote from: Kirby23590 on May 01, 2018, 09:14:53 AM
Will not get them into my colonies if they appear. for a while... Depending on the situation if tommy the colonist is about to break or something like that. Despite the mood debuff for doing so...
Arguably don't we already have some of these in game already? Normal pawns but the clues are in their backgrounds they aren't pure humans.
We have vatgrown soldiers and I think I saw a 'super soldier' once. Plus I did have a vatgrown sexslave pawn and genetically engineered prostitute in the same colony once.
Indeed, certain backstories for pawns already imply that they are these, most notable are the vatgrown, organ clone, and super soldier backgrounds. However, like all backgrounds, they are very unnoticeable especially considering most of us have game time in the hundreds of hours.
It would be cool however, to see this as DLC down the line. Considering the amount of robots, aliens and other creative stuff the community has made, having more pawn types with pros and cons would be great.
Quote from: Ser Kitteh on May 23, 2018, 06:27:59 PM
Indeed, certain backstories for pawns already imply that they are these, most notable are the vatgrown, organ clone, and super soldier backgrounds. However, like all backgrounds, they are very unnoticeable especially considering most of us have game time in the hundreds of hours.
It would be cool however, to see this as DLC down the line. Considering the amount of robots, aliens and other creative stuff the community has made, having more pawn types with pros and cons would be great.
People (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=37944.msg389429#msg389429) (one link of many) have wanted backstories to mean more for a while, since there comes a point when a barkeep and a sex slave could both become the key diplomats of your colony over positions like entrepreneur and counselors due to a passions or childhood hitting the wrong skills. Sure, I can ignore things like the behavior researcher - who is specifically mentioned to have researched canines and other animals - having no bonus "train canine" modifier, or even
any animal bonus, it's a whole other thing to completely ignore the blatant mention of Xenos. If you were told that Master Chief didn't like tuna and saw him eating a tuna sandwich, you chalk it up as an oversight it. If the game still had Needlers and Plasma Rifles but no covenant? Yeah, that wouldn't go so smooth.
You do realize that you are pulling a lot of this from a mixed bag of vanilla and kickstarter backstories right? There's no real coherence between them because they're written by a bunch of people with different intentions, which is one of the main reasons the game's lore is kind of a mess. If you go through enough backstories, there are enough contradictions that none of it make any real sense. Aliens exist and don't exist, xenohumans are common but never seen in the game, medieval worlds are cut off from other planets but also starships land there. Vanilla backstories leave a lot of things vague (intentionally, probably) but many of the custom ones go into detail about things never mentioned anywhere else. Some of them are just straight-up joke backgrounds like the super baby one.
Quote from: cultist on May 25, 2018, 07:06:42 PM
You do realize that you are pulling a lot of this from a mixed bag of vanilla and kickstarter backstories right? There's no real coherence between them because they're written by a bunch of people with different intentions, which is one of the main reasons the game's lore is kind of a mess. If you go through enough backstories, there are enough contradictions that none of it make any real sense. Aliens exist and don't exist, xenohumans are common but never seen in the game, medieval worlds are cut off from other planets but also starships land there. Vanilla backstories leave a lot of things vague (intentionally, probably) but many of the custom ones go into detail about things never mentioned anywhere else. Some of them are just straight-up joke backgrounds like the super baby one.
Firstly, it doesn't seem like Tynan will add just anything to his game. Credit to the guy, he's lovely, but the Name in Game Access pack isn't doing too hot (https://store.steampowered.com/app/367680/RimWorld_Name_in_Game_Access/), lots of people angry about not getting their name in. Maybe he had less of a filter on backstories due to the fact that people paid so much for them, maybe he had a strict one because of how central they are to the game, I can't say because the page isn't up anymore. Point is, Tynan probably wouldn't break his own rules just to make a buck.
I Ctrl-F'd the backstories page for "Super baby" and didn't find anything. If you meant the aforementioned "Abductee" backstory
QuoteNAME was abducted by xenohumans when he/she was still a baby. They experimented on him/her to understand his/her genetic structure.
As he/she grew up, NAME grew a little bit too big and strong for his/her captors and eventually escaped.
Then I think I did an alright job logic-ing that up in my original post, plus, y'know, Captain America expirements'll do that to yah.
Otherwise, you might be referring to the Dreaded Baby backstory.
QuoteNAME was found as a baby in a crashed spacecraft. According to the ship's data records, he/she invented the nuclear device that powered this ship. Apparently, he/she also invented the sky and the hamburger, and is said to have fathered a race of tasty golden kittens.
Nowhere does it say that the pawn actually did do that as a newborn. If anything, it reminds me of a certain world leader. (https://www.ranker.com/list/craziest-things-north-korean-leaders-have-claimed/nathan-gibson)
There's a difference between quirkiness and outright jokes. Fallout isn't a comedy game, it's just wacky at times. In one mission, you're sending a bunch of disillusioned radiation zombies wearing vintage sci-fi space suits into space using old rockets to the tune of Frank Sinatra's "come fly with me. (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Come_Fly_With_Me)" That's goofy. It's not a joke, though. Still a funny part of the game. Then, you get other quests, like attempting to help a female soldier recover from the trauma of sexual assault at the hands of a pyromaniacal cannibalistic fiend (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/I_Don%27t_Hurt_Anymore). Balance is needed to not make the game a miserable slog or care-free gag-game. That's why G-nome Sculptor has it's place with Labor Camp Orphan.
Oh, and on a final note, the medieval world thing. In addition to the Medival/Tribal worlds having some pretty decent backstories in comparison to their lower weapons technology (a bunch of guys with pulse rifles need slaves, think they're going to a Glitterworld?), those for-the-most-part unprocessed worlds could mean a lot of valuable resources. I know from personal experience as a bunker-lover, I can end-up swimming in steel in the early game, thanks to the fact that some organization with laser drills (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=14711.0) didn't get there first.
On the finalest note, aliens don't exist in the Rimverse, period. The literal only time you find any mention of "aliens" in any backstory is when it's mentioned in a child's fantasies. Anything else non-human is a xeno, which is just a modified human.
I think you're missing my point. You're trying to force coherence between snippets of text written by all sort of different people who don't know each other and are not actively working together to achieve anything in particular. Yes, Tynan filters the backgrounds but that doesn't mean it all adds up to something that makes sense.
Quote from: cultist on May 27, 2018, 05:21:01 AM
I think you're missing my point. You're trying to force coherence between snippets of text written by all sort of different people who don't know each other and are not actively working together to achieve anything in particular. Yes, Tynan filters the backgrounds but that doesn't mean it all adds up to something that makes sense.
Real life doesn't make sense.
Ever hear of Mad Jack?
QuoteLieutenant-Colonel John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming Churchill, DSO & Bar, MC & Bar (16 September 1906 – 8 March 1996), was a British Army officer who fought throughout the Second World War armed with a longbow, bagpipes, and a basket-hilted Scottish broadsword.
Bears and Piglets are cool. Ever hear about Tardigrades?
QuoteTardigrades (also known colloquially as water bears, or moss piglets)[2][3][4][5] are water-dwelling, eight-legged, segmented micro-animals.
Weird stuff, doesn't seem like they'd both fit in the same world at all. But y'know what? As Fighting Jack Churchill was crawling through an abandoned drain pipe in Sachsenhausen concentration camp, he was probably covered in the things.
The key factor in Rimworld's universe - I believe - is distance. There's a reason nobody's getting on their cellphone to just call-up a Glitterworld. The whole reason we have the Glitter-Rim dynamic in the first place is because Glitterworlds are where all the technology began, led to more technology, and repeated. Moving that tech off of a planet will take time. Everything takes time because of this sub-ftl travel. That's why there are kings and mob bosses and special forces specializing in killing xenos. . . it's all the chaos of our existence except widely spread and mutated!
The issue is, it would be weird if we knew that Tardigrades lived in moss, moss was common in drain pipes, Jack Churchill crawled through a drain pipe, and he didn't make contact with a Tardigrade or two, because we know they exist in that manner. Similarly, it would be odd if we knew that firearm technology existed in the Rimverse, trade ships came from technological hubs, and we never saw any guns. Same deal with the fact that Medival Worlds are likely a stopping point on the way to a Rimworld (Medival worlds being at the end of technology's spread, and Rimworlds being at the end of colonization spread), and the idea that no peasant ever got on a ship or two.
The game doesn't "need" xenohumans. They could be included and interesting, especially if they interact different from normal pawns mechanically. I can picture them fitting into Rimworld similar to a lot of potential mechanics if done properly so I'm not opposed to the idea, but the game could also never implement them and be fine as well.
Quote from: TheMeInTeam on May 28, 2018, 10:14:45 AM
The game doesn't "need" xenohumans. They could be included and interesting, especially if they interact different from normal pawns mechanically. I can picture them fitting into Rimworld similar to a lot of potential mechanics if done properly so I'm not opposed to the idea, but the game could also never implement them and be fine as well.
Personally, even with all the amazing stuff we've received in updates and the majesty that might be 1.0, I'd feel like the game was incomplete without them. I might have agreed with you on the point that I'd be fine if they were never added (-though it'd be neat if they were), I can't, not after playing with all the mods for it that I have. Some of the best ones (for me, Crystalloids (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=972897322) and Apini (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=31076.0), though you could throw in Androids (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=35663.0) in too if you're being lenient) just add so much culture, challenges, unique items, and special ways to have to build and customize your playstyle from colony to colony, it feels like it's missing from vanilla.
Quote from: TheMeInTeam on May 28, 2018, 10:14:45 AM
The game doesn't "need" xenohumans. They could be included and interesting, especially if they interact different from normal pawns mechanically. I can picture them fitting into Rimworld similar to a lot of potential mechanics if done properly so I'm not opposed to the idea, but the game could also never implement them and be fine as well.
Well you might be right with that but... I kind of like a bit of variety rather than just cannibal colonies or psychopath only colony or evil colonies. Well sure they are the same but i like to have a gravity dwarven mountainhome colony mixed with soldiermorphs in cyrosleep in case of emergencies or raids.
But would want to see them appear from time to time in normal gameplay in raids where pirates would throw me elite mercenary soldiermorphs or a tallman outlander trader visiting to sell his wares or rarely tribals in a raid using solidermorph berzerkers.
I could play the game without them but they would be a nice addition to the game in 1.0 but one could dream about what they could do :)
Quote from: Kirby23590 on May 29, 2018, 09:45:03 AM
Well you might be right with that but... I kind of like a bit of variety rather than just cannibal colonies or psychopath only colony or evil colonies.
That's definitely it. Play around with traits all you want, but you've still got baseline humans by the end of the day. Sure, you could "make" a soldiermorph by giving a pawn Careful Shooter, Psychopath/Bloodlust, and a hit of go-juice once a day, but those requirements are just so specific. The chances of getting a second pawn like that are near minimum, too, so you'll never get to the point where you have to play different as a result of your pawns.
For example: pyromaniac. Unless you're the nervous type, you don't really need to necessitate full stone buildings after you get one. The grand majority of your colonists are firefighting-capable, and can deal with one pyro. Three pyromaniacs? That's a risk, might even mean you actually research firefoam poppers for once, but still fairly manageable. Meanwhile, Cactaceae are a modded race of cactus people who -as a result of their physiology - tend to have pyrophobia (they flee from fire and are outright incapable of firefighting). A fire starts, and you're screwed. Now, firefoam is far more vital as research, and wood is pretty frowned upon. I've had colonies made out of lots of them that became very dependent on other races to keep the place from burning down, which is a real interesting thing.
Apini are bee people. They
hate mountains, and the race has a unique form of claustrophobia (Claustrophobia Apinis, credit to the mod author for being so thorough!) that develops far quicker and is far quicker than standard claustrophobia. This is a pretty great deterrent to bunker-builders. Additionally, they can't wear more than an apron . . . six legs, wings, and mandibles after all. Thus, they don't do well in the cold. "Well, great, now I've got a bunch of neolithic-level pawns who don't have access to the reliable resources and protection of a mountain, and they need lots of structure to deal with coldsnaps and snow, why would I ever play this?" That's the thing, they're highly agricultural and diplomatic. They (and only Apini) can plant a special crop for making pollen, and thus beeswax (which also require plant matter). This stuff is prettier than most other materials in the game, and can be made en-masse in maps with enough plant life. This means decent weapons, beautiful architecture, and even honey (it's like insect jelly: high value and joy-abundant!). It's due to these elements that it actually becomes viable once to have excellent trade relations: your statues are the prettiest, your lodgings are the most comfortable, and your food is the tastiest! Buying mass amounts of steel, stone bricks, pawns, and other pawns is an essential part of the playstyle, which changes things up a lot. If you wanted to simulate that in vanilla, you'd need a bunch of green-thumbed nudists with the self-imposed "no mountains" rule, and that's just not too feasible.
Plus, the bees are real cute.
You certainly gave a lot of thought into this heck never even heard of xenohumans until reading this post. ;D I even tried looking on google for what that is and it brought me straight back into this post. It would be extremely interesting to see a bit more diversity in 1.0 as they try to slowly get up there and to be honest, I would never even try to read any type of dialogue in the mods or my whole head gets a bit mixed in trying to connect it all.
Seeing different races within the human race would add some more variety but will also come with its own complexity since while your ideas are pretty thought out about what you see humans turning into something and how they will react later on. (also bee people should have a have a hive like mind for obvious reasons relating to there queen and their nature of protecting the queen) the one thing I see that could become a problem is how far are you willing to dwell into each race and how there. Mood, eating, habits, back stories, traits, how diseases affect each race differently such as one disease that could live inside a xenohuman could be extremely deadly to the other Xenohuman since their region didn't have that disease, stuff like that.
I am interested in seeing how many races you have in mind for the Xeohumans If you can show how many races of Xeohumans you are thinking about let me see them whether they are extremely bizarre or very realistic. It will help me see how far you are willing to create such a vast amount of new human races.
Funny thing and speaking about dwarves, well
gravity dwarves to be precise.
In the fiction primer or universe backstory. It said that
gravity dwarves have a noted preference for short and underground dwellings.
Meaning they are better in mountain bases or staying in their bunkers or shelters in the colony. What i mean is that they might not suffer Cabin fever mood debuff or thought. I don't know the opposite of cabin fever or the inverse of it, maybe Agoraphobia?
Gravity dwarves loves being in or staying in their safe mountains or colonies that keep them boxed in from dangers. But if they go outside though and for a few hours they might get a mood debuff, minus from vomiting because of them being nauseous from the bright sun. While being better at mining and being hard to hit at ranged combat because of their short structure unless when at close range. While also being a bit slower at movement speed than their average humans and xenohumans.
Soldiermorphs being main soldiers rather than workers having a lower global workspeed (Though they can haul stuff.). They are better at using weapons in ranged and melee combat than their average human or other xenohuman counterparts, being able to take more hits and attack more efficiently. To counter this, their lifespans are short meaning after a few years and they start becoming old and getting diseases since they are not mean't to live that long since they are mostly used as soldiers and fighters, but they have a better mental break threshold than others and might not be disturbed at the sight of death though lacking the pawn's bloodlust trait unless they have it.
Quote from: Tober6fire on May 30, 2018, 01:50:42 AM
You certainly gave a lot of thought into this heck never even heard of xenohumans until reading this post. ;D I even tried looking on google for what that is and it brought me straight back into this post. It would be extremely interesting to see a bit more diversity in 1.0 as they try to slowly get up there and to be honest, I would never even try to read any type of dialogue in the mods or my whole head gets a bit mixed in trying to connect it all.
You should read the RimWorld universe backstory (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fUO3KKbAbTxMP1lqphnnodY0NPoOVblCUkDw-54MDUc/pub). It contains the lore of rimworld's universe and stuff that might come or not in the future of the game in v1.0. Some of it is intriguing and interesting stuff. ;)
*Melodramatically* No mention of Orassans? I am wounded so!
Quote from: Diana Winters on June 21, 2018, 03:14:22 PM
*Melodramatically* No mention of Orassans? I am wounded so!
TL;DR: They're cat aliens, not xenohumans. They were not made by nor born from humans, thus aren't xenohuman (same reason I didn't highlight the Elder Things. Also, I've never played with them, and wouldn't want to speak on something I have no experience with.
Respectfully, I've just never played your mod. I don't intend offense, they're biology is based off of a webcomic I devoted a lot of time to, they're really well thought-out, and have had a pretty big impact on the modding community. The issue is. . . I'm picky. As an example, I like Cactaceae because of how little they do. They match the artstyle, and vary enough from humans that
a sizeable population of them can alter how you make your base, or you could just drop them in with humans with little difference, same for the Elder Things, or Logann. I like the Apini, as they're "Simple Tier Xeno+". They
require a bit more work to make them happy, meaning changing up your base a fair amount, and having tangible effects on your playstyle (now that you have honey and beeswax to work with, and Apini
not liking mountains at all). Same thing for Androids. Beyond that - on a tier of their own - are the Crystalloids. They match the artstyle, they have
a unique physiology, they've got a special material to build with, and really neat psychic fields that not only
give an incentive to really change-up your base, because they give bonuses to your pawns and power new generators for cool new structures. A colony devoted to Crystalloids plays nothing like a standard colony, even though it might not even be the best choice, just an alternative. That's why I've tried to get my mitts on those mods for every version of the game.
Once again, respectfully, your Orassans mod just doesn't hit those same notes, at least for me. Their textures don't fit too well with the rest of the game, being fine in the cold doesn't change more than how many heaters you have in a base, and don't seem to promote too big a change in playstyle (keep in mind, the only thing I have to go off of is the Steam and Forum page), though the Betharian stone seems to be an interesting thing, like the psychic fields. There's also the issue, however, of them being a self-admitted highly-advanced futuristic space empire. While I like the idea of that, I commend Tynan keeping the Glittertech to a couple items and the occasional trade ship. Too much power and not a lot of struggle just doesn't appeal to me. . . which is kinda the point. You've got a well-made mod that I just don't like the concept of. . . plus, they're cat aliens.
Rimworld's lore doesn't have aliens. Some might call it arbitrary, some might call it restrictive, but it doesn't. To mention Orassans would be like bringing-up Elder Things or the Logann, which is something I'm not ready to try to argue to the developers. Once again, I highlight Cactaceae as a perfect example in their simplicity. They're just modified humans intended for harsh arid environments. They can't shoot spines, they don't have any agave-powered energy weapons, they just do better in the aforementioned environment: They need less food (which would be hard to get in, say, an extreme desert), they are more comfortable in extreme heat, and are a tad hardier than a human. You could see them added for the same reason we have muffalos and dromedaries instead of just, say, cows.
P.S. Did you know that the only videos I could find of your mod were from some German lady from, like, three to four updates ago? I was trying to get more info on the thing I wrote a couple paragraphs about without playing, didn't find a whole lot.
Quote from: Call me Arty on June 21, 2018, 10:25:44 PM
Quote from: Diana Winters on June 21, 2018, 03:14:22 PM
*Melodramatically* No mention of Orassans? I am wounded so!
TL;DR: They're cat aliens, not xenohumans. They were not made by nor born from humans, thus aren't xenohuman (same reason I didn't highlight the Elder Things. Also, I've never played with them, and wouldn't want to speak on something I have no experience with.
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Don't worry, I'm not actually offended. And yes, I knew about the lack of videos. In any event, the orassans are supposed to be from Stellaris, which is why they have nice tech. Playing as them is more for casual players (unless you use the storyteller that comes with them at a high difficulty! Then you'll need the increased firepower ;)). The main playstyle differences if you're going to really roleplay as them are morality restrictions and a very high starting population, but I haven't really implemented these sort of things yet. Sadly you can't make scenarios starting with more than 10 colonists.
Some minor differences are that orassans (without their technology) are much more fragile than humans and will go down in a gunfight quite quickly, but they're fast and tend to be great at melee combat.
P.s. as much as I like twokinds, I only started reading the comic
after I made orassans. Orassan biology (and society) is quite different from Kiedran biology... at least internally. Their anatomy, especially their posture, is quite similar though. That is why I used the picture that I did.
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/947/666/5d7.jpg)
>Version 1.0 is being tested.
>We have waterwheels.
>No mention of xenos.
>mfw
Pretty Darn Nice
I personally really only care about xenos that are vastly different from humans (for example, i'd love to play as a race **similar** to xenomorphs, using prisoners as a way of reproduction, carnivores) and consider races like "bee people" pretty meh. Though that kinda races take a lot of effort and possibly game-changing features, so, all that being said, i'd be happy with just sub-xenos, like g-dwarves or g-elves, etc. Or even something as minor as people with various bioengineered backstories having more effective body parts and different capabilities - Engineered soldiers could be tougher (body parts with more HP) etc. For example, bioengineered miners who can only see in the dark - and are blinded during the day. That kinda stuff wouldn't take much to implement but would also really flesh out the colonists and lore.
Quote from: Adamiks on June 26, 2018, 05:06:33 AM
Pretty Darn Nice
I personally really only care about xenos that are vastly different from humans (for example, i'd love to play as a race **similar** to xenomorphs, using prisoners as a way of reproduction, carnivores) and consider races like "bee people" pretty meh. Though that kinda races take a lot of effort and possibly game-changing features, so, all that being said, i'd be happy with just sub-xenos, like g-dwarves or g-elves, etc. Or even something as minor as people with various bioengineered backstories having more effective body parts and different capabilities - Engineered soldiers could be tougher (body parts with more HP) etc. For example, bioengineered miners who can only see in the dark - and are blinded during the day. That kinda stuff wouldn't take much to implement but would also really flesh out the colonists and lore.
Though I am frankly offended by your disparaging of my beloved Apini, I like the idea of a way to convert others to be more like your colony (you can make a colony with all cannibals/psychopaths/night owls, and 100% of your colonists have it. . . in your colony of three). Xenomorphs would fit the bill. It's also a way to differentiate xenos from traited-up humans. Xenomorphs (despite being aliens) couldn't be recreated just by giving humans the jogger and bloodlust trait. You'd be missing acid blood, sword-like tails, and would have to take responsibility for keeping them from doing any complex tasks and keeping them from wearing clothes or using weapons. No offense, but assuming you add nothing else, soldiers with tougher bodyparts could just be somebody with a high shooting skill and the "though" trait. The miners could just have some kind of photosensitivity or be night owls. On the other hand, soldiermorphs are nearly physically perfect, can only eat one kind of food, have a short lifespan (experienced players could easily see old age killing more of these guys than raiders), pain-tolerant, and are dumber than a sack of bricks. Sure, those could be five traits, but gifted (sometimes cursed, depends on the taits) can still only have about three. Therefore, why not xeno?
IIRC, Tynan once indicated that he hoped to add (what I remember him calling) sub-human races eventually.
(Dwarf-like, elf-like, et cetera.)
At that time, he also stated that there was no guarantee that other races would ever actually be added, and that if they were added, they would be added extremely late in development, after everything else was more or less complete.
Quote from: nccvoyager on June 27, 2018, 07:14:01 AM
IIRC, Tynan once indicated that he hoped to add (what I remember him calling) sub-human races eventually.
(Dwarf-like, elf-like, et cetera.)
At that time, he also stated that there was no guarantee that other races would ever actually be added, and that if they were added, they would be added extremely late in development, after everything else was more or less complete.
Yup, and you better believe I'll hold him to that.
Quote from: Call me Arty on June 27, 2018, 12:03:31 AM
Though I am frankly offended by your disparaging of my beloved Apini, I like the idea of a way to convert others to be more like your colony (you can make a colony with all cannibals/psychopaths/night owls, and 100% of your colonists have it. . . in your colony of three). Xenomorphs would fit the bill. It's also a way to differentiate xenos from traited-up humans. Xenomorphs (despite being aliens) couldn't be recreated just by giving humans the jogger and bloodlust trait. You'd be missing acid blood, sword-like tails, and would have to take responsibility for keeping them from doing any complex tasks and keeping them from wearing clothes or using weapons. No offense, but assuming you add nothing else, soldiers with tougher bodyparts could just be somebody with a high shooting skill and the "though" trait. The miners could just have some kind of photosensitivity or be night owls. On the other hand, soldiermorphs are nearly physically perfect, can only eat one kind of food, have a short lifespan (experienced players could easily see old age killing more of these guys than raiders), pain-tolerant, and are dumber than a sack of bricks. Sure, those could be five traits, but gifted (sometimes cursed, depends on the taits) can still only have about three. Therefore, why not xeno?
What i was trying to say, but i guess failed, is that i'd *love* to see a *completely* different race, and used xenos as an example, but, considering that it's unlikely it will ever happen, i'd be content with just minor changes to pawns (i'm not very creative so i used those poor examples, not realizing that "tough" trait actually increases hp of body parts already)
I see your point though, but, as to
Quote from: Call me Arty on June 27, 2018, 12:03:31 AMTherefore, why not xeno?
Because it would take a considerate amount of time to properly implement xenos that feel different from just slightly-modified-humans (which you can already achieve in vanilla game, just with bionics for example) and frankly, while i'd *love* to see them in-game, i'd also love seeing a bunch of different things added, fixed or rebalanced first. I feel xenos are something that Tynan will either never add or only in the far future when he is fully content with the current state of the game and doesn't feel like anything is missing, so he just decides to add some fun/requested things.
Probably my biggest passion is biology in general, but particularly, Evolution and the way creatures evolve to adapt to their environments. It's really too bad Humanity has so few big physical differences, mostly just skin tone, slight size differences, and hair(wiry, curly, flaccid and straight, ect). While animals have such massive physical differences between similar species.
These mods added to the game, along with greater variety of animals with more unique traits, in a balanced and official capacity would make the game 10x better to me! I absolutely love the variety already have and taming. Many of these mentioned Xeno humans would be the coolest thing! I am just hesitant to add any actual mod, because they are rarely balanced very well, and I absolutely love a very challenging game. I wouldn't want it any easier whatsoever. The couple you mentioned don't sound particularly balanced, especially the psionic one, and psionics are both one of my favorite fantasy types of magic ever, and one of the hardest things I have ever seen balance wise universally between video games and DND haha. They seem like they fulfill the role of a strong research at work crafting pain that is a pacifist, just significantly stronger at it, with slight drawbacks. They wouldn't go in combat, so you wouldn't have to worry about the pain tolerance. They actually seem stronger than pacifist because they can go in combat! And psionic sensitivity is annoying, but you can deal with it. And I would gladly trade that for the big increase in research and productivity.
Anyway, they would absolutely make my day(year) if these things were added to the game or balanced very well as mods! It was a pleasure reading all that lore you linked, and thanks for taking the time to post all that!
Quote from: Scavenger on June 30, 2018, 06:06:18 AM
Probably my biggest passion is biology in general, but particularly, Evolution and the way creatures evolve to adapt to their environments. It's really too bad Humanity has so few big physical differences, mostly just skin tone, slight size differences, and hair(wiry, curly, flaccid and straight, ect). While animals have such massive physical differences between similar species.
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Anyway, they would absolutely make my day(year) if these things were added to the game or balanced very well as mods! It was a pleasure reading all that lore you linked, and thanks for taking the time to post all that!
I'm in the same boat. Never liked Vulcans or "painted humans" (as the term goes). The real interesting/freaky creatures always caught my attention and imagination. Rimworld's developers know that too, what with one biome being able to have completely different plants and animals from one another. Sure, there's not much need for evolution - considering that we have coolers for the deserts and heaters for the ice sheets - , but you can't tell me that in the same universe where some guy thought luciferium was a good idea, and another guy (unless we have some real evil genius here) thought giant insects were a good defense against mechanoids, that there wasn't some egghead who thought "sure would be nice if we had fewer people dying of frostbite. . . if only there were some way to have a built-in parka".
I agree, the day xenohumans get added is the day I buy the game (using the Steam Family thing to play a friend's copy). Don't care what else gets added, it'd be complete for me right then and there. If I'm playing the thing for free right now anyways, the least I could do is put in some time to articulate some neat ideas. Besides, credit goes to the Rimworld team. Without them giving us the olive branch on lore, any to what capacity we'd have xenos, I'd probably be
like the rest of the uncultured alien-loving masses asking for Xenomorphs or Sangheili (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Sangheili), or something else less unique to the Rimworld universe. I like what we have now, even if it doesn't exist yet.
I actually quite like the Elites in Halo! Their culture Kind of reminds me of a futuristic feudal Japan. But another one of my main passions in the biology area are vaguely zombie style but more realistic viruses and other organisms that kill their prey, then repurposed the biomass into their own. The flood, zombies from The Last of Us( they gets big props, as it exists in real life with insects! Reanimating fungus.) Necromorphs, and the Zerg to a degree. The Halo universe is pretty great! But I digress haha.
It would be great if you are more likely to encounter or be raided by species evolved for certain climates in those climates. Like the furry Hillbillies in Tundras. Or possibly even an amphibious race near the ocean. Though.. Currently in game, location of bases has nothing to do with what attacks you. Which I dislike, I really wish your proximity and the number of enemy bases you are near, as well as which faction, had some impact on what attacked you.
Well I decided to give this a try... I was considering to do some kind of race mod for a while and since it's canon I'll try to implement some of these ideas in a mod.
You can find the releated topic here (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=42568.0).
Quote from: Albion on July 17, 2018, 11:18:18 AM
Well I decided to give this a try... I was considering to do some kind of race mod for a while and since it's canon I'll try to implement some of these ideas in a mod.
You can find the releated topic here (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=42568.0).
Everybody kindly check-out this individual's mod and support them in their efforts. It's so cool that someone would just up an make a mod because somebody liked the idea of it.
Sweet! Thanks my dood!
Quote from: Scavenger on July 20, 2018, 09:57:31 PM
Sweet! Thanks my dood!
Nah, thank you! I just sat around for an afternoon or two collecting things somebody else wrote, asking other people to add them. All the thanks belongs to you - the modding community - or one the developers for actually adding content to the game.
My dumb ass just realized that Scavenger probably thanked Albion for making the mod, and that I thought I was thanking Albion in that reply. Better late than never.
As a better excuse for necro-ing this post: Albion and his small team made the mod! You can get it here on the forum (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=47981.msg453049#msg453049), and on Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1647782348)! Make sure you check it out and support mods made by people who aren't as lazy as I am!