Alignment | Lawful | Neutral | Chaotic |
Good | Lawful Good | Neutral Good | Chaotic Good |
Neutral | Lawful Neutral | True Neutral | Chaotic Neutral |
Evil | Lawful Evil | Neutral Evil | Chaotic Evil |
Y'know. This kinda thing. I just had an argument with a bunch of friends about how this would look for superheroes, and thought it'd be neat for the various things in Rimworld. For example:
Animals | Lawful | Neutral | Chaotic |
Good | Thrumbo | Muffalo | Chicken |
Neutral | Cow | Pig | Boomalope |
Evil | Timber Wolf | Alphabeaver | Manhunter Yorkies |
Technically, they'd all be neutral from a roleplaying point of view, but it's the way you encounter them in the game that altered my feelings about them. The black hole of frames that is an out-of-control chicken population, the fact that no amount of turrets can seem to defend against a bunch of tiny yellow (and adorable) targets, etc.
Maybe an overly dumb or nerdy idea, but I feel like there's a lot of strong opinions that this forum can agree on.
If you want the setup I used in my tables, I believe quoting this will show the setup, then you can just paste the new stuff over what I have. Ctrl-F helps.
Uses for "Yorkies Join" event:
Yorkies | Lawful | Neutral | Chaotic |
Good | Nuzzle Room | Bonded Animal mood boost | Free-range pest control |
Neutral | Sold to friendly colony | Sold to orbital trader | Sold to trader with large leather stock |
Evil | Dinner | Raider bait | Hats |
Prisoners:
Prisoners | Lawful | Neutral | Chaotic |
Good | Recruit | Endless Friendly Chat | Catch and Release |
Neutral | Sold to friendly colony | Sold to orbital trader | Execute |
Evil | Harvest Organs | Hats | Raw Cannibalism |
Didn't expect this to actually get two good responses as the first replies and so soon. Neat. Thanks, my dudes.
Also, dammit (https://i.imgur.com/n3tXrYd.png), thought I had an original bone in my body.
It really should be called a morality chart, because it barely even breaks the skin on the discussion of what good and evil actually mean and how they complement each other.
On the other hand, I guess the name comes from the fact that you align yourself with a deity with a similar moral outlook - that's the orginal purpse of the D&D alignment chart IIRC.
Quote from: cultist on June 07, 2018, 09:41:17 AM
It really should be called a morality chart, because it barely even breaks the skin on the discussion of what good and evil actually mean and how they complement each other.
On the other hand, I guess the name comes from the fact that you align yourself with a deity with a similar moral outlook - that's the orginal purpse of the D&D alignment chart IIRC.
I kinda disagree. Whenever I fill it out, there's some pretty interesting discussion. There's a true neutral, but there's no such thing as "pure evil" or "absolute good". Adolf Hitler is the poster child for bad dudes, so you'd figure he'd go in Chaotic Evil, which might be the evilist box in the chart. Thing is though, the guy had systems, and was working towards an ideal. Therefore, Mr. Evil Von Evilson would be Neutral Evil. It means a lot to put someone in one of those boxes.
Quote from: Call me Arty on June 07, 2018, 09:56:52 AM
Adolf Hitler is the poster child for bad dudes, so you'd figure he'd go in Chaotic Evil, which might be the evilist box in the chart. Thing is though, the guy had systems, and was working towards an ideal. Therefore, Mr. Evil Von Evilson would be Neutral Evil. It means a lot to put someone in one of those boxes.
I love Western cultural biases. Hitler worked towards Jews annihilation and has been recognized as the most evil person ever... However...when Israelis "ALSO" work towards Palestinian annihilation... the Westerns... turn the blind eye... Then of course... the United Shits of America moves their embassy to Jerusalem...
Quote from: Call me Arty on June 07, 2018, 09:56:52 AM
I kinda disagree. Whenever I fill it out, there's some pretty interesting discussion. There's a true neutral, but there's no such thing as "pure evil" or "absolute good". Adolf Hitler is the poster child for bad dudes, so you'd figure he'd go in Chaotic Evil, which might be the evilist box in the chart. Thing is though, the guy had systems, and was working towards an ideal. Therefore, Mr. Evil Von Evilson would be Neutral Evil. It means a lot to put someone in one of those boxes.
It's flawed in a lot of ways, but to take your example, the system essentially links being chaotic to being evil, because it considers chaotic evil to be the polar opposite of lawful good. The deeper issue here is the mixing of law/chaos and good/evil - assuming that there's no real difference between personal morals (good/evil) and societal morality (lawful/chaotic). "Neutral" (on the law/chaos scale) is also kind of a nonsensical term as most people's view on a crime is highly skewed based on who commited it, the nature of the crime, the circumstances etc. In reality, most people are "neutral" in regards to law because they aren't going to act against their own will or judgement simply because the laws states that they must.
But as I said, it's a system designed to pick a deity and serve as a roleplaying tool and not much else. It does that job admirably.
Do we really need this kind of conversation going on gents?
Quote from: Ramsis on June 07, 2018, 10:57:09 AM
Do we really need this kind of conversation going on gents?
Administrators | Lawful | Neutral | Chaotic |
Good | | | |
Neutral | | | |
Evil | Ramsis | | |
In all seriousness, do you mean the conversation about morality in reference to real-life peoples and events, or the alignment charts?
If it's about the real-life people and discussion of morality and how it might be a little iffy, keep inmind you had to scroll past the guy who made a chart depicting eating raw human flesh as an option in the game this forum is devoted to. Considering the genocide of Sheriffs and Pyromaniacs that occur on a daily basis, I'd figure Hitler's fair game for conversation and comparison to kobolds.
If your concern is the alignment charts, then, well, it's not too different from the art thread, just with less talent involved. Like, a lot less talent.
Just keep the aggressive stuff to the low end please.
Quote from: Ramsis on June 07, 2018, 01:18:52 PM
Just keep the aggressive stuff to the low end please.
I didn't see Yoshida's post, if that's what you meant. I just don't see a whole lot of "aggressive" stuff in this thread. Mostly just jokes.
Let's get this thread back on track.
Weapons | Lawful | Neutral | Chaotic |
Good | Assault Rifle | Bolt Action Rifle | LMG |
Neutral | Revolver | Autopistol | Minigun |
Evil | Sniper Rifle | Incendiary Launcher | Psychic Shock Lance |
Mods | Lawful | Neutral | Chaotic |
Good | Hospitality | Vegetable Garden | Rimsenal |
Neutral | Prepare Carefully | Allow Tool | Crashlanding |
Evil | Cheaper Components | More Monster Girls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Deg7VrpHbM) | Rim of Madness: Cults |
Just have to say that labeling boomalopes as "chaotic neutral" brings me great amusement for some reason.
Quote from: OFWG on June 07, 2018, 06:00:23 PM
Just have to say that labeling boomalopes as "chaotic neutral" brings me great amusement for some reason.
I actually switched to generators for the first time ever, after only using renewable energy. Had a small herd of cute 'lil boomies keeping the colony running.
Then I got raided. A lot of boomies got hurt. I put them all in the same animal hospital.
Then one died. Surrounded by many of their near-death friends.
It is this memory that has them in their place.
And the memory of the colonists that got blown to bits too, I imagine
Quote from: Shurp on June 07, 2018, 08:47:23 PM
And the memory of the colonists that got blown to bits too, I imagine
Nope, I got lucky. Only needed one amputation from someone's severe burns from superheated air.
Did we managed to hit the Godwin's law in the rimworld forum ? And in about 5 posts ?
That was 10 posts ago. C'mon, keep up.
Here, let's try this again:
Forum Topics | Lawful | Neutral | Chaotic |
Good | Base Layouts | Caravanning | Ice Sheet Survival |
Neutral | Modding | Killboxes | Livestock |
Evil | Prisoner Surgery | Hats | Whining about Godwin's Law |
Quote from: Bastobasto on June 11, 2018, 08:13:22 PM
Did we managed to hit the Godwin's law in the rimworld forum ? And in about 5 posts ?
THAT has happened a bunch of times, here and there ::).