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Title: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: YokoZar on November 03, 2018, 05:10:06 PM
Caravan speed is based on average human/animal speed.

Rabbits are fast and breed rapidly.  Bring them along with your caravans for lowest travel time.

Are there any animals that work better for this purpose?
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: 5thHorseman on November 03, 2018, 06:42:57 PM
That's kinda brilliant. What kind of numbers are we talking here?

I've never been a huge fan of the average time thing, they should move as fast as their slowest member and be able to speed those slowpokes up to their fastest speed by not having them carry anything but no more. However, I'm totally willing to cheese it if the game allows and even encourages it.

I've never ever kept any rabbits. Any I got for free got slaughtered right away. But I assume they do fine just being relegated to a big grazing area like muffalo do?
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Scavenger on November 03, 2018, 11:02:05 PM
I hate things like this.. Lol
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Canute on November 04, 2018, 04:28:00 AM
Now we just need a methode that new breeded rabbits got bionic legs ! :-)
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Serenity on November 04, 2018, 07:23:41 AM
You'd think the caravan speed would depend on the slowest participant
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: AileTheAlien on November 04, 2018, 08:00:07 AM
It's totally legit - the slower caravan members are laying flat on top of a swarm of rabbits. They don't get crushed it you spread your weight out. :P
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Crow_T on November 04, 2018, 08:12:27 AM
Quote from: AileTheAlien on November 04, 2018, 08:00:07 AM
It's totally legit - the slower caravan members are laying flat on top of a swarm of rabbits. They don't get crushed it you spread your weight out. :P

That's a hilarious mental picture :D
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: fritzgryphon on November 04, 2018, 12:52:36 PM
Lets see.


Colonist:  4.6 c/s
Bunny: 5.52 c/s
Bunny is 20% faster

Single colonist, no cargo.

No Bunny:  26.8 tiles/day
One Bunny:  29.1 tiles/day   (15% faster)
23 Bunnies:  34.1 tiles/day   (21.4% faster)
54 Bunnies:  34.1 tiles/day   


Four colonists, no cargo

0 bunnies: 26.3 tiles/day 
1 bunnies: 27.7 tiles/day  (+5%)
2 bunnies: 28.7 tiles/day  (+9%)
3 bunnies: 29.4 tiles/day   (+12%)
4 bunnies: 30 tiles/day   (+14%)
45 bunnies:  33.3 tiles/day  (+27%)




Not only does a hare speed up a caravan, they seem to have just as much weight in the speed calculation as a colonist.  Also, the caravan speed isn't a simple average of pawn speeds.  Fast pawns increase caravan speed more than expected.






Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Scavenger on November 04, 2018, 04:05:47 PM
Should definitely be based on slowest lol
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Scavenger on November 04, 2018, 04:07:16 PM
Or maybe the rabbits are out front attached to the muffalo by ropes pulling it like reindeer pulling a sled!
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Shurp on November 05, 2018, 07:19:15 AM
I'm going to call this a bug.  It's fair to use the average of all animals capable of hauling.  So if you have a bunch of dogs with you that are willing to wear bags or pull a sled, they should increase the speed of the caravan.  (And the slowest members are just allowed to carry less so they can keep up).

Unless you have specially trained rabbits that can pull sleds, they shouldn't improve your caravan speed.

Well, unless you have *these* rabbits in your caravan:

(https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/2003554310-300x0.jpg)
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/north-korea-hungry-for-big-rabbits/

I swear Rimworld is really North Korea...
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: khun_poo on November 05, 2018, 08:00:46 AM
What about gazelle or squirrel? those are very fast and can graze too. No idea about their breed time.

Cougar and panther should be the fastest animal. They can't graze though.
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Nameless on November 05, 2018, 09:13:33 AM
This does sound working not as intended lol.
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: jayman1000 on November 05, 2018, 08:05:45 PM
:o this makes no sense but it sounds hilarious. Caravan speed should just be set according to slowest member, that's a very easy and very working way of solving it.  O if you are going to do an average, do it right or don't do it at all...
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Scavenger on November 05, 2018, 08:39:01 PM
Quote from: khun_poo on November 05, 2018, 08:00:46 AM
What about gazelle or squirrel? those are very fast and can graze too. No idea about their breed time.

Cougar and panther should be the fastest animal. They can't graze though.

Ostrich, emu, and cassowary Yo! Mega speed and grazing.
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Razzoriel on November 05, 2018, 11:40:29 PM
This should be appliable only to animals that can carry items specially to avoid that abuse. It's kind of amazing that Tynan forgot to take this into account.
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: Scavenger on November 06, 2018, 03:17:19 AM
Hes had a lot on his plate:P
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: The Great Muffalo on November 06, 2018, 05:43:28 AM
Guys, it's simple. Every living thing in the caravan is attached to one another via a web of ropes. So the slowest members of the caravan are running as fast as they can while being partially dragged, and the fastest members are being held back by everyone slower than them. It truly is a brilliant system. I can picture all the bunnies running in the front, while all the muffalo and overweight colonists are being dragged in the back.
Title: Re: Rabbits are for caravan driving
Post by: dburgdorf on November 06, 2018, 11:17:05 AM
Clearly, someone on the rim found ancient copies of the "Hobbit" movies, and thought Radagast's rabbit-pulled sled had been the subject of a documentary on efficient caravaneering. ;)