heyho :)
how much time you guys think, did tynan spent to play/enjoy his game?
and i mean ENJOY, without thinking about anything. sure... he cant play it without any thoughts about bugs or content
and he dont have much time only for enjouying his own game because we want more^^
but i think he spents hours and hours in it only for fun, thats why rimworld is awesome.
you cant produce a good game if you never played it by yourself.
look at the "big" guys: ElectronicArts... i think they never play her own products.
(ok they cant play it because its a bugparty and... time is money)
cheers
emmchen
ps. tynan, keep up the good work and have fun with your own epic game :)
i love it
Just creating something of your own can be whole lot more fun than actually playing with it later =P
I somehow really doubt He's got the time to play the game as much as the rest of us
Or even to play it in the same manner we do! (He's probably breaking his own save files each time he fires the game up ::) )
But i'm just guessing here!
But I'm positive he does enjoy the game I don't see why he would be even making it otherwise
From personal experience I can tell you that playing a game you've made yourself is tricky. If you're not careful all you see if your own flaws or things you haven't added yet.
ok... agree with you guys :D
im not a game/mod maker but i see your point^^
i have games with hundrets of hours of "playtime" but i never "play" the game because of the big amound of mods. nah this sucks, next mod... naaahh next mod. ok this is fine, now i need a new mod.
and the only thing i do is pimping my game.
online time = 300 hours / playtime = 10 hours
I want screenies of Tynan's colony. He should do a "Let's play" video or something.
Sadly, I don't have much time to sit and play RimWorld. Usually by the end of the day doing development work I'm so tired I can't play any game at all, actually.
I try to watch other people playing to get a feel for how it actually runs, though. I do think watching the game in motion is really important for a game designer, and I think the best way to do that is to watch other people play. When you play yourself, you're not really approaching it like a normal player would because you know so much and assume so much more.
I agree with Shinzy, creating something of your own and enjoying a game tend to be somewhat mutually exclusive, but that doesn't make creating the game any less fun!
in my experience, I kinda need to force myself to remember how fun the game is and turn off my mod to stop myself from thinking about my mod stuff (or maybe just my mod's balancing sucks? lol).
I'm surprised that Tynan doesn't play much himself. Though I do agree that having other testers makes sense. For example when prisons break the entire map will be considered part of the prison making all food socially improper. Socially improper doesn't alert me to why my colonists didn't eat.
Having a someone from the outside point this out allows for changes to happen.
I imagine trying to play your own game is something like trying to tickle yourself. Sure you can do it, but it's not really the same, you can't ever surprise yourself.
Quote from: HatesYourFace on August 25, 2014, 08:00:11 PM
I imagine trying to play your own game is something like trying to tickle yourself. Sure you can do it, but it's not really the same, you can't ever surprise yourself.
That seems like the perfect analogy for the situation.
Quote from: HatesYourFace on August 25, 2014, 08:00:11 PM
I imagine trying to play your own game is something like trying to tickle yourself. Sure you can do it, but it's not really the same, you can't ever surprise yourself.
I'll probably never forget this analogy. Thanks. ;D
Quote from: Tynan on August 25, 2014, 03:17:40 PM
I try to watch other people playing to get a feel for how it actually runs, though. I do think watching the game in motion is really important for a game designer, and I think the best way to do that is to watch other people play. When you play yourself, you're not really approaching it like a normal player would because you know so much and assume so much more.
IIRC Valve spend a LOT of time watching players playing their games, for the first time and getting their feedback. Happily I suppose this forums can provide a lot of that feedback.
Quote from: BetaSpectre on August 25, 2014, 05:30:41 PM
I'm surprised that Tynan doesn't play much himself. Though I do agree that having other testers makes sense. For example when prisons break the entire map will be considered part of the prison making all food socially improper. Socially improper doesn't alert me to why my colonists didn't eat.
Having a someone from the outside point this out allows for changes to happen.
Have you reported this as a bug?
Quote from: stefanstr on August 26, 2014, 03:41:48 AM
Quote from: BetaSpectre on August 25, 2014, 05:30:41 PM
I'm surprised that Tynan doesn't play much himself. Though I do agree that having other testers makes sense. For example when prisons break the entire map will be considered part of the prison making all food socially improper. Socially improper doesn't alert me to why my colonists didn't eat.
Having a someone from the outside point this out allows for changes to happen.
Have you reported this as a bug?
It was an example, Tynan ofcourse wouldn't wonder what that line of text means cause he wrote it and knows exactly what causes it =P but other people might not have that sort of clarity on what the hell is going on!
it's been mulled over quite a bit in the past! should even be fixed in this alpha!
Quote from: Tynan on August 25, 2014, 03:17:40 PM
Sadly, I don't have much time to sit and play RimWorld. Usually by the end of the day doing development work I'm so tired I can't play any game at all, actually.
I try to watch other people playing to get a feel for how it actually runs, though. I do think watching the game in motion is really important for a game designer, and I think the best way to do that is to watch other people play. When you play yourself, you're not really approaching it like a normal player would because you know so much and assume so much more.
winner in every sense ;D (working hard, try to watch peoples gameplay)
thx for the anwser :)
I'm surprised he doesn't have a go here and there. I would love to see a "Lets play" from Tynan, because I cant help but wonder if he would cheat lol. eg 20 Mechanoids...hell no. edit, 1 mechanoid, and badly wounded.
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