EdB Prepare Carefully
Customize your RimWorld colonists, choose your gear and prepare carefully for your crash landing. Save your setup as a preset so that you can start your game the same way later.
About the latest version
Version 1.0.13 is the latest release of the mod for RimWorld 1.0. It consists of mostly bug-fixes and mod compatibility fixes.
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Download for RimWorld 1.0
Prepare Carefully 1.0.13 for RimWorld 1.0 (https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v1.0.13) (Github)
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How to Use
Extract the contents of the zip file into your mods folder. The mod contents should be in the "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully" directory, NOT in a "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully/EdBPrepareCarefully" directory. Enable the mod from the mods menu.
Once you enable the mod, start a game normally, but click the "Prepare Carefully" button to get started:
Frequently Asked Questions
I installed the mod, but I get a message that says that the mod "has incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'". How do I fix it?
The most common problem that people run into is that they double-extract the mod folder from the zip file. If you get that error, make sure that you have not ended up with an extra directory inside your mod folder. The mod contents should be in the "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully" directory, NOT in a "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully/EdBPrepareCarefully" directory.
If you downloaded from github and got this "target version" error, you may have downloaded the mod's source code instead of the mod itself. Double-check that you clicked on the correct download link.
If you have other trouble installing the mod, please look for advice in this thread:
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.0
Why doesn't the "Prepare Carefully" button appear for me?
First and foremost, make sure that you've enabled the mod! This will be obvious to experienced mod users, but if you're new to RimWorld mods, you need to go into the Mods menu when you start the game and explicitly enable a mod after you've installed it.
Unfortunately, some mods just don't work well together, and you may have to experiment to find a combination that works.
Why don't my saved presets from earlier versions work?
I try to maintain backwards compatibility with previous releases, but it's not always possible. Alpha 16 presets and saved characters should work, but if they do not, you'll need to recreate them.
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Download for RimWorld 1.0
Prepare Carefully 1.0.13 for RimWorld 1.0 (https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v1.0.13) (Github)
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A log of changes in recent releases of the mod is available on GitHub if you want more detail:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/blob/v1.0.13/Resources/CHANGELOG.txt
Well that looks awsome nice work mate :)
Looks like it's getting added to my list of mods for my playthrough
Apologies--I had bug in the first version that I should have caught. I posted a new release, v1.0.2.
Changelog:
- BUGFIX: Passions and traits are now set correctly on colonists.
- Changed the mod controller so that it does not replace the RootMap if the mod is disabled.
Nice. My only concern, can you add items, like the preset amount is 1 Einfield and two Pistols, can you add a shotty or something?
HOLY shit EdB, first the (cannot play without) interface and now this, FAN...TASTIC!
@Iwillbenicetou - this mod focuses on colonist so it may or may not, BUT if it doesn't, all it takes is to enable the developer menu, destroy the pistol/lee-en and spawn a shotty then disable it again.
EDIT: Yes it does.
Quote from: Iwillbenicetou on September 21, 2014, 07:34:11 PM
...can you add items, like the preset amount is 1 Einfield and two Pistols, can you add a shotty or something?
Yes, absolutely you can. The default setup roughly matches what you start with in the vanilla game, but you can swap in the weapons that you want. It does enforce a point system, so you may have to give something up to add a better item--at some point, I should probably add a cheat option so that you can ignore the points, but for now you need to make trade-offs.
i had been waiting for a mod like this Yay. I can now make my starter group all brigand with costom clothing and weapons
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Somebody clearly is enjoying rimworld a lot. This is a very sought out mod congrats edb!! You're doing a great job man. :)
Absolutely love your implementation and point system, p.s i cant play rimworld without your interface now, teeheee
Awesome! I will give it a try.
I seem to have a problem where I can't remove a colonist that I've added to the starting colonists, causing everything to go wildly over the point limit?
Nice.
@EdB
Unable to delete the third later colonists
ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Argument is out of range.
Parameter name: index
Quote from: Nimr_Tiger on September 21, 2014, 10:35:25 PM
I seem to have a problem where I can't remove a colonist that I've added to the starting colonists, causing everything to go wildly over the point limit?
Quote from: bigmap on September 21, 2014, 10:50:39 PM
Unable to delete the third later colonists
Thanks for the bug report--sorry about that. Posted a new release that should fix it: v1.0.3
Changelog:
- BUGFIX: You can now delete colonists beyond the third one.
I was just about to report. Thanks for the quick bugfix!
I noticed that the things that the colonist is incapable of doing doesn't update when you change or randomise them.
Also the name in the backstory description don't get updated after renaming the character.
And the Headtype colors are a bit limeted can there also be the color scrollbars as for the ohter skins (hair, clothes)
Otherwise its a nice Mod. Prevents me from hitting the randomize button hundered of times an save file editing afterwards.
Good work.
Brilliant idea, sick of waiting 20 minutes to randomise the colonists to something viable and decent to start up with, and would be nice to change around the start instead of typically starting in an identical fashion each game.
Is there a way you could possibly tell us how we can modify the maximum amount of points? I'm kind of clawing my eyes out in anger since I can't seem to re-create the firefly cast. I mean I'm trying to have Kaylee with high points in mining/construction, Mal is great socially, with his guns and melee. Zoe is good social, awesome with a gun and sort of good melee, River is great at many things, Simon is a good doctor/researcher, Jayne is really stupid in everything but shooting/melee.
It seems basically having all of them is impossible, unless I spawn with 0 resources and they all have the skillset of 0 for everything.
Really well made mod, by far my favorite UI mod.
Quote from: Preacher on September 22, 2014, 07:40:23 AM
Is there a way you could possibly tell us how we can modify the maximum amount of points? I'm kind of clawing my eyes out in anger since I can't seem to re-create the firefly cast. I mean I'm trying to have Kaylee with high points in mining/construction, Mal is great socially, with his guns and melee. Zoe is good social, awesome with a gun and sort of good melee, River is great at many things, Simon is a good doctor/researcher, Jayne is really stupid in everything but shooting/melee.
It seems basically having all of them is impossible, unless I spawn with 0 resources and they all have the skillset of 0 for everything.
I agree. Maybe a secondary version with +5000 points?
I started a game with TTM mod and pressed the Prepare Carefully button, the randomly generated colonists were already worth so much that the points were at -3000... had to set all their stats to 0 in order to get any starting items. :-\
Otherwise, good job. Like it a lot. :D
Quote from: zyklame on September 22, 2014, 03:14:04 AM
...the name in the backstory description don't get updated after renaming the character.
Thanks for the bug reports.
Quote from: Preacher on September 22, 2014, 07:40:23 AM
...I can't seem to re-create the firefly cast...
I definitely don't want to the point system to get in the way of that!
I posted a new release, v1.0.4. Changelog:
- You can now disable the point system. Right-click the points label and select the option to toggle between using points and not using points.
- BUGFIX: Backstory tooltips are updated when a colonist's name or gender is changed.
- BUGFIX: Changing backstories now correctly updates the "Incapable Of" section.
Just a heads up that I'm not going to be able to do another release until the end of the week. I appreciate all of the feedback.
Thank you for this great mod. Really essential for my peace of mind when starting a fresh colony. No more dozens of random clicks, or save editing...
This mod is so awesome (along with your UI mod) that I've decided to make my first post on here just to sing it's praises. This is exactly what I was missing from the vanilla game to make it fit exactly into my ideas for how I want to play. I made 3 starting characters who were psychopathic cannibals last night and had lots of fun killing everybody who wandered into my town and cooking them up. My only criticism would be the cost for adding another starting colonist. I wanted to have 4 cannibals to start with but the cost for another one would have put me at -1000 points so I had to settle for 3. I think it could be 5 out of 5 stars with some tweaks to the starting points or point costs. I'd definitely rate it a 5 out of 5 for the idea but 4 of 5 for the current implementation of it. Keep up the good work. Can't wait to see what else you come up with.
Is it just me or are you only able to select between a limited amount of backstories? I see things like 'Fighter controller' in the adult backstory, but if I scroll away from it I can't seem to get it again no matter the number of loops that are made. In addition I've noticed that rather frustratingly, everything seems to work when saving and loading presets except for the custom skill point mappings. Don't interpret that as a lack of appreciation for the awesomeness of the mod though, it's very handy not having to randomise until I get an acceptable matchup!
Quote from: Nimr_Tiger on September 22, 2014, 06:56:29 PM
Is it just me or are you only able to select between a limited amount of backstories?
Yes, there may be something going on there. There are two kinds of backstories. There are the regular backstories that adapt to the name and gender of the colonist that you choose, and there are special backstories that do not. I left out all of the special backstories since they don't behave as expected when displaying the backstory description, and I'm thinking that might be why you're seeing this behavior. I'll dig into it more to figure out what's going on.
I also noticed some weird behavior when clicking through the traits where it seemed like sometimes traits would get skipped. I'll look at that, too.
Quote from: Igabod on September 22, 2014, 06:46:01 PM
...I made 3 starting characters who were psychopathic cannibals last night and had lots of fun killing everybody who wandered into my town and cooking them up. My only criticism would be the cost for adding another starting colonist. I wanted to have 4 cannibals to start with but the cost for another one would have put me at -1000 points so I had to settle for 3...
I will definitely be trying a psycho-cannibal starting group! It was hard to decide what to do with the points. Adding an 4th colonist could be considered a bit cheat-y since it gives you a significant head-start--and I wanted to reflect that. With the points, you definitely need to remove skill points and passions on your first 3 colonists to be able to afford a 4th. That said, the release I did today lets you disable the points entirely (see my post above). I should have included that in the first place--it's important that everyone has freedom to set things up the way that they want. I'll make that option more prominent in a later release.
That is the best mod I have ever seen 8) I always wondered if I can select the starting stats instead of clicking random 20 times or at least have the option of selecting a character between many characters.
and you just solved the whole thing. I haven't tried it yet but I sure will ;)
I don't know if it's possible but this mod needs to be added in the game as a default you are a life saver buddy :D
Quote from: EdB on September 22, 2014, 08:45:18 PM
Quote from: Igabod on September 22, 2014, 06:46:01 PM
...I made 3 starting characters who were psychopathic cannibals last night and had lots of fun killing everybody who wandered into my town and cooking them up. My only criticism would be the cost for adding another starting colonist. I wanted to have 4 cannibals to start with but the cost for another one would have put me at -1000 points so I had to settle for 3...
I will definitely be trying a psycho-cannibal starting group! It was hard to decide what to do with the points. Adding an 4th colonist could be considered a bit cheat-y since it gives you a significant head-start--and I wanted to reflect that. With the points, you definitely need to remove skill points and passions on your first 3 colonists to be able to afford a 4th. That said, the release I did today lets you disable the points entirely (see my post above). I should have included that in the first place--it's important that everyone has freedom to set things up the way that they want. I'll make that option more prominent in a later release.
I can see how it would be cheat-y. But sometimes you just want to play out a scenario where you and your 3 best friends are colonists on an unknown world. Or re-enact Firefly. Or any other weird fantasy that rolls through your mind. That's where I see the best use for this mod. I'll definitely be downloading the update and giving it another run in a few minutes.
[Edit to add] After downloading the newest update I can say I am quite happy with the change. I was having so much fun with 4 cannibals. I put some limits on myself to compensate for the fact that I started with 4. I decided that I wasn't going to recruit any new colonists if they weren't at least a cannibal or a psychopath or both. This meant that in the short game I played I only had the 4 starting colonists. I also decided my colonists were against eating meat from animals but love human meat, just for giggles. I would still be playing this one if not for an unfortunate freak accident. While dismantling ancient stone buildings my only construction worker was crushed by the roof. Figured I could continue anyway, but then shortly afterward my hunter shot my only cook. Felt like it would be far too difficult to continue with only 2 colonists. I plan on using that preset again though. That was a fun game.
Edb you are super awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thank you soo much i've missed those cool mods!!!!Awesome keep up super mega cool work!!!!:D
Would multiple traits be added?
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Quote from: King Of Natlanta on September 23, 2014, 10:40:44 AM
Would multiple traits be added?
You mean have more than two traits? I can look into doing that. I think the game itself allows it, but I'm not positive. I would also need make sure that there's enough space for it in the UI--both in the mod UI and in the game UI itself.
It seems that changing colonist's age doesn't really work. Character screen shows unchanged value ingame.
From what ive seen it shows upto 4 traits. Im not sure if any more than 4 can be had or if it just doesbt show more than 4.
Also, not sure if its mentionet but, rather than choosing the amount of rifles and pistols could it be made so theres a slot per colonist where you choose the type of gun.
Minor bug or perhaps I'm missing something. I gave my guy 14 points in shooting and made him incredibly pale. In game he's tanned with 10 points in shooting, I've also noticed it with other colonists I make as well, there skills don't seem to set properly.
Quote from: Spectre on September 23, 2014, 02:52:09 PM
Minor bug or perhaps I'm missing something. I gave my guy 14 points in shooting and made him incredibly pale. In game he's tanned with 10 points in shooting, I've also noticed it with other colonists I make as well, there skills don't seem to set properly.
That may have something to do with the bug I've seen regarding certain values not saving properly in the presets.
Wow, this is cool.
If i were to want an easier start, or make it easier to add new mod items for testing/different start, what file would I edit, and what with?
Amazing! i was a little worried about the ccm mod not being updated anymore but this is awesome! :)
Looks awesome. Loving the interface and how simple it looks to randomly generate and modify pawns. That was my one problem with CCM was sometimes I'd like to randomize and modify rather than straight up create each and every colonist. Amazing work :D
Quote from: Dude1925 on September 24, 2014, 04:40:31 PM
If i were to want an easier start, or make it easier to add new mod items for testing/different start, what file would I edit, and what with?
In the latest release (1.0.4), you can right-click on the points text to shut off the point system entirely. I'll make this option more obvious in the next release.
From what I'm reading, it sounds like there are a handful of issues where the selections that you make in the mod do not properly make it into the game. I will work on fixing those problems.
I have a small request, would it be possible to choose your colonist's body type? For example instead of being forced to have a big guy model when choosing a vatgrown soldier, would it be possible to make him slim instead?
Bookmarking this for later. I sincerely hope nothing in Alpha 7 deems this un-usable.
Quote from: Spectre on September 25, 2014, 10:08:51 AM
I have a small request, would it be possible to choose your colonist's body type? For example instead of being forced to have a big guy model when choosing a vatgrown soldier, would it be possible to make him slim instead?
Unfortunately, this is a limitation in the game that I have not been able to work around. The body type is directly tied to the colonist's backstory. I will continue to look for some kind of solution, but from what I've seen so far, I don't think it will be possible.
Hey EdB can you make the mod more easy i mean balance the points to be easier.
Quote from: EdB on September 25, 2014, 10:36:50 AM
Quote from: Spectre on September 25, 2014, 10:08:51 AM
I have a small request, would it be possible to choose your colonist's body type? For example instead of being forced to have a big guy model when choosing a vatgrown soldier, would it be possible to make him slim instead?
Unfortunately, this is a limitation in the game that I have not been able to work around. The body type is directly tied to the colonist's backstory. I will continue to look for some kind of solution, but from what I've seen so far, I don't think it will be possible.
Ahh okay thank you for the swift reply. Another quick question, have you been able to implement the 'unique' traits yet? e.g Vatgrown Assassin, Hired Assassin, Deathjack etc? Or is that just another limitation that would be hard to work around?
Oh before I forget, thank you for this amazing mod, I really appreciate the work that must go into something like this. It's breathed a massive breath of fresh air into the game for me. :)
Uhh Hi, sorry! Am I missing something? I have downloaded dropbox, and made an account, however the download "click" button in Dropbox is not working for me "https://www.dropbox.com/s/g52239vqg27g1f9/EdBPrepareCarefully-1.0.4.zip." Is there an alternate file download link? Great work by the way, the ideal of this mod looks awesome and I must have it! :)
You shouldnt need an account you should just get a page withe a blue download link on it. Have you got some kind of security plugin on your browser or something, i dont know how this could not work?
Quote from: saipanhomie on September 26, 2014, 02:10:28 AM
Is there an alternate file download link?
I'm not sure why Dropbox would behave that way for you. As an alternative, I'll add the mod as an attachment to the forum topic when I do the next release sometime this weekend.
Quote from: Spectre on September 25, 2014, 12:14:15 PM
...have you been able to implement the 'unique' traits yet? e.g Vatgrown Assassin, Hired Assassin, Deathjack etc? Or is that just another limitation that would be hard to work around?
The unique traits are slightly problematic because their descriptions are often hard-coded with a specific character name or hard-coded to a specific gender. I took them out at the last minute because I was worried that this was going to look like a bug. I feel like it adds a lot variety to have them in there, so you can expect to see them soon--I think I've figured out a good way to handle them in the UI.
Quote from: zyklame on September 22, 2014, 03:14:04 AM
...the Headtype colors are a bit limeted can there also be the color scrollbars as for the ohter skins (hair, clothes)...
I tried to get this working, but unfortunately, this looks a limitation in the game. I'm not finding a workaround that would allow me to assign a skin color beyond the five pre-defined options. I'll keep looking, but this will probably stay the same as it is in the mod now.
Quote from: EdB on September 26, 2014, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: Spectre on September 25, 2014, 12:14:15 PM
...have you been able to implement the 'unique' traits yet? e.g Vatgrown Assassin, Hired Assassin, Deathjack etc? Or is that just another limitation that would be hard to work around?
The unique traits are slightly problematic because their descriptions are often hard-coded with a specific character name or hard-coded to a specific gender. I took them out at the last minute because I was worried that this was going to look like a bug. I feel like it adds a lot variety to have them in there, so you can expect to see them soon--I think I've figured out a good way to handle them in the UI.
I personally would love to see them in there. Although thinking about it I've never checked the description, I have changed the names of hired Assassin, Vatgrown Assassin etc and it worked fine.
I do wonder why it's hard coded though, when you roll a Vatgrown Assassin they always have the Mercenary Adult background and are always male. I understand it's for people who paid a bit extra to have the unique backgrounds but I think it would benefit everyone if those backgrounds were thrown into the pool. Why no female assassins? :(
Quote from: Spectre on September 26, 2014, 01:02:27 PMfemale assassins? :(
Well there's always Mie the Pampered ninja assassin! She's female! and terribly afraid of plants if I recall correctly
Quote from: EdB on September 26, 2014, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: saipanhomie on September 26, 2014, 02:10:28 AM
Is there an alternate file download link?
I'm not sure why Dropbox would behave that way for you. As an alternative, I'll add the mod as an attachment to the forum topic when I do the next release sometime this weekend.
Alrighty, Thanks a bunch!
Quote from: Shinzy on September 26, 2014, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: Spectre on September 26, 2014, 01:02:27 PMfemale assassins? :(
Well there's always Mie the Pampered ninja assassin! She's female! and terribly afraid of plants if I recall correctly
Pretty sure she's pretty afraid of everything that doesn't involve outright violence.
Any chance we could get a version for messing around with, say, 1,000,000 points? :D
that would be cool!
right click the available points thing and you can just disable points, so if you want a ridiculous amount of points use that
There is a new release available, v1.0.5. This is mostly a bug-fix release that cleans up a lot of the problems you might have be seeing where the colonist customizations that you were making were not being reflected in the game or not being saved to the preset files correctly. Please let me know if you continue to see issues.
Changelog:
- Added all backstories. A backstory will now show a warning if its description may not match the name or gender of the colonist that you selected.
- Added a checkbox option to the lower-left corner of the window that allows you disable the point system. This replaces the option you used to see when right-clicking the points label.
- The Load/Save Preset dialogs do a better job of remembering where you were when you close them.
- BUGFIX: Skill levels are now correctly saved to presets and are correctly reflected when the game starts.
- BUGFIX: Head type color and age are now correctly applied to colonists when the game begins.
- BUGFIX: Skill point tooltips now immediately reflect changes.
- BUGFIX: Some fixes to the way that body type is selected as you change your backstory and gender. The body type applied to your colonists when the game begins should now match the one shown in the mod UI.
I apologize for my English. In connection with a new version of the mod, has updated its Russification for him (only added the folder of the Russian language, and the mod description).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z0gq5wmchgjyvr9/EdBPrepareCarefully.rar?dl=0
В связи с добавлением новой версии, добавил русскую локализацию для этого мода. Пользуйтесь с удовольствием, и будем надеяться, что автор мода меня не убьет!))
There is a bug in the 1.0.5 version. Incapable of don't switch back to 'none' if there was somthing in throu a backstory. It doesn't seem to affect anything else throu. The skills are unaffected of this (they are normally skillable in the correct way) and ingame it says correctly 'none' in this cases.
Quote from: zyklame on September 27, 2014, 02:31:15 PM
There is a bug in the 1.0.5 version. Incapable of don't switch back to 'none' if there was somthing in throu a backstory...
Thanks for noticing this. I released a new version with a fix, v1.0.6.
exactly what i was waiting for, thx again edb :)
I seem to be getting an issue where i try and add a fourth passion, and it just stops me then the menus stack up and i can no longer do anything
Quote from: shadowstreaker on September 28, 2014, 01:00:56 PM
I seem to be getting an issue where i try and add a fourth passion, and it just stops me then the menus stack up and i can no longer do anything
That happens to you consistently? Anyone else seeing something similar? I have not been able to reproduce the problem. I can max out the passions on all of the skills on all of my colonists with no problem. Maybe there's some combination with the selected backstories that's causing it. If this is something that happens for you consistently, maybe try saving your setup right before you trigger the issue as a preset and sending me the preset file in a private message? The presets are saved in the {user}/AppData/LocalLow/Ludeon Studios/RimWorld/PrepareCarefully directory (if you're using Windows).
I've gotten it twice in a row, gonna remove all the other mods i play with and see if it works fine then, if not I'll send you the preset file, but it's a bit difficult to get it just before i trigger the issue, since it sometimes happens when im going to set a fourth and sometimes onces ive already set minor passion on another
After disabling and re-enabling all the mods I use, aswell as this one, the issue is not repeating itself, so I have no clue why that was happening, on a side note, can you add a capital N on the none in incapable of, I know it's being pedantic but yeah
Quote from: shadowstreaker on September 28, 2014, 04:35:43 PM
...on a side note, can you add a capital N on the none in incapable of, I know it's being pedantic but yeah
Funny you mention it--I noticed it yesterday and changed it, so you're not the only one! I was using the text from the vanilla game, which is not capitalized.
Glad I'm not the only one and thanks :)
And thanks for the great mod, it's extremely useful (Especially with MAI which allows you to give colonists the Android trait)
Awesome but it would be amazing if you could add ten colonists :D Just sayn
Will the update to Alpha 7 be a quick one or are there some new snags code wise?
Quote from: DDRMANIAC007 on October 01, 2014, 12:51:40 PM
Will the update to Alpha 7 be a quick one or are there some new snags code wise?
Still too soon to say. I won't have a chance to really start digging into the code until tonight.
ok good luck EdB stay awesome!
Please hurry with this mod :P this and Project armory are must haves lol. Also is there a way to edit the points so I can say bring 6 Gods of War with supplies to last until next update? >.< (just some stuff that would be fun also I had wanted to start a colony with less points too)
I haven't been able to check but since all mods have the same basic format as the base game and you can change the base game value I'd assume so. Exactly what line to look for May be tricky but I'm sure the author will provide it if you ask nicely.
I've released an Alpha 7-compatible version, v1.1.0. Note that I am not taking advantage of the new material system yet. Any apparel that you choose for your colonists will either be made out of synthread or out of cloth.
Full release notes:
- Added Russian-language translation (credit to Kvarfax for putting this together).
- BUGFIX: Made the "Age" label localized and a little wider to better fit localized text.
- Added support for Alpha 7.
- Added a "Pants" layer to the custom apparel interface.
- Changed the cost calculations to use the new base market value numbers.
- Items that do not have these values are not available to add to your starting equipment.
- Click on a trait or on a backstory to open a dialog with a list of all options available for selection.
- You can now start with as many as ten colonists.
If I had to guess, I would say that this release might be a little buggy. It's difficult to test everything, so I really do appreciate the help that every gives by providing bug reports and feedback.
If you're curious, I probably will not start working on the interface mod until this weekend. I expect that update to be a little more difficult.
Great work getting it out so quick and thank you for the great mod
Looking forward to the interface mod update aswell :)
Edb you are a godsend thanks mate :D
Hey EDB what file is the point limit in I wanted a cheat game so I'd set it higher
Good to know porting to alpha 7 bugs aside was simple. Thanks for quick update! This mod is a must for me as I can't stand the random nature of initial colonist selection.
Best mod ever!
Quote from: LORDPrometheus on October 02, 2014, 12:30:59 PM
Hey EDB what file is the point limit in I wanted a cheat game so I'd set it higher
There's no configuration file where you can change the point value, but you can just turn off points entirely. Click the "Use Points" option in the lower-left:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b636/edbmods/disable-points_zps2f09639b.jpg)
EDIT: It will still show a point value in the lower-right, but it will switch from showing how many points you have left to showing how many points you've spent--and it won't care how many you spend.
Omg EdB you are awesome.I can't believe now you can have 10 colonists!! YEAH :D Thanks again EdB for making an awesome mod!
-.- has that option really always been there? If so I am truly blind and need a doctor ASAP
An update! I am contributing to all the spam about it. Though this is my favorite mod so far. I almost when checking out A7 looked for prepare carefully :(
Quote from: Sooner535 on October 02, 2014, 04:59:37 PM
-.- has that option really always been there? If so I am truly blind and need a doctor ASAP
It has not always been there. It was added in the version previous to this latest release. The early versions had no way to disable the points.
I'm having trouble getting this to work... Can't see the button at character creation screen and also my worldmap bugs out...
Quote from: Timber on October 02, 2014, 07:33:23 PM
I'm having trouble getting this to work... Can't see the button at character creation screen and also my worldmap bugs out...
Sorry that you're having trouble with it. Does the world map works fine when the mod is not enabled, but bugs out with the mod enabled? Are you trying it with a new world created in Alpha 7? The only time I've seen the world map bug out is when I tried to use a world map created in Alpha 6.
I feel better it wasn't lol
Love this mod I spent hours creating my colonist team it was great. I ran into an issue while creating my colonist. I don't know if it is from this mod or what but while I was looking at the endless list of background stories the game shrunk down to a tiny box in the top corner of my screen and I could not do anything with it so i had to quit out and start over.
Quote from: Rex705 on October 02, 2014, 10:21:51 PM
...while I was looking at the endless list of background stories the game shrunk down to a tiny box in the top corner of my screen and I could not do anything with it so i had to quit out and start over.
Wow. Bizarre issue. I hope it wasn't the mod that caused it, but it's hard to say for sure.
In general, if you run into the kind of issue that completely breaks your game, and you suspect that it may be the fault of a particular mod, it can be helpful to track down the game's log file and send that to the mod maker. The log file is named output_log.txt and is in the game directory (i.e. RimWorld581Win\RimWorld581Win_Data\output_log.txt). You can email that to me or find the errors at the end of the file and paste them in a private message to me--it's probably too much detail for the main forum topic. The errors in those files can be really useful in tracking down where a failure happened and if it's a mod that's causing it. The mod file gets rewritten every time you start a game, so any errors recorded from a previous game will be lost when you start a new game.
Of course, my goal is to make the mod stable so that you don't have to deal with the hassle of game crashes and tracking down log files, but I appreciate any help. It's impossible for me to test everything.
Quote from: Timber on October 02, 2014, 07:33:23 PM
I'm having trouble getting this to work... Can't see the button at character creation screen and also my worldmap bugs out...
I'm having a similar problem in that the Prepare Carefully button doesn't appear in my game. Starting the world isn't producing any problems, but again I'd love to be able to change my pawns.Edit: I think I may have discovered the problem, at least on mine. I discovered that for some reason Alpha 6 and Alpha 7 were sharing the same save data logs, despite all of their folder data being kept separate. After deleting Alpha 6 completely off of my computer, the mod suddenly started working again. Maybe some kind of conflict is caused in the game's coding when older versions are present?
I'm speechless EdB, you are my hero, and I'm not talking sandwiches.
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2wmncz7.jpg)
I usually just spam randomize until I get a group of colonists that I like, so I'm going to give this mod a shot and see how it goes.
I always try and setup my first 3 colonists with 2 miners and a grower but my miners never want to be miners.. How can I fix this? And no they're not incapable they just refuse?
Quote from: Putzin on October 03, 2014, 10:09:56 PM
I always try and setup my first 3 colonists with 2 miners and a grower but my miners never want to be miners.. How can I fix this? And no they're not incapable they just refuse?
Are you sure it's assigned to them under Overview?
(http://i60.tinypic.com/nxq0kz.png)
This by far is one of my favorite features of this mod. Thank you again EdB.
First off -- thanks, EdB! I really appreciate the work you are doing. The interface mod and the prepare carefully mod have made this game significantly more enjoyable.
Second -- I've noticed a potential bug. Loading just "Prepare Carefully" causes no issues but if I have other mods loaded funny things start to happen. With other mods on, I can load up the "Prepare Carefully" interface fine but when I click to the inventory preparation screen all the buttons (back, next, save preset, load preset -- I think that's all of them) disappear and I can't add or remove items. Since there are no buttons available I'm forced to close the entire game and reload.
If I open the game, deselect all mods except "Prepare Carefully", hit "OK", and then go back into the mod menu and reload all the other mods everything works just fine.
I'd be happy to send you the error log but I'm afraid I'm uncertain as to how to access it.
Quote from: Casearcana on October 04, 2014, 05:36:40 PM
...I've noticed a potential bug. Loading just "Prepare Carefully" causes no issues but if I have other mods loaded funny things start to happen. With other mods on, I can load up the "Prepare Carefully" interface fine but when I click to the inventory preparation screen all the buttons (back, next, save preset, load preset -- I think that's all of them) disappear and I can't add or remove items...
Thanks for the bug report. It definitely sounds like a problem with one or more items in one of the other mods that you're using. Can you list out the mods that you tried it with? I'll need to fix that.
I have a few mods and It works but I had that same issue of missing buttons when I installed the UI mod.
Hey,
Just figured it out I think -- I turned off the "More Storage" mod and everything was fine. I think that mod and another were confusing each others' item definitions and that led to issues in the inventory screen of your mod. I'm not a programmer by any stretch but that seems to be what's happening.
Thanks for your prompt reply!
Quote from: Casearcana on October 04, 2014, 05:46:08 PM
...I turned off the "More Storage" mod and everything was fine. I think that mod and another were confusing each others' item definitions and that led to issues in the inventory screen of your mod...
That kind of makes sense--More Storage alone doesn't seem to be a problem for me. I'm trying a bunch of other mods with it and can't get it to happen. Any guesses on which one it might be?
I've attached the error log. Followed are the mods active when the error is triggered. I'm going to try disabling other mods one at a time to see what the other culprit might be.
EdB Interface (2.2.1)
EbB prepare carefully
Extended Stoneworking
Extra Research Tables 1.3
Modular Tables
Modular Solars 1.6
More Storage
Natural Terrain Flooring
Surgery Extended
The T Mod Suite (ConditionRed, ExpandedCloth, Expanded Crops, Misc Stuff, MoreBeds, MoreFloors)
Workplaces
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Ugh. Sorry for the wild goose chase. I just downloaded the right version of More Storage. One of the links on the forum posting is still for A6 which I accidentally downloaded. Once I got the updated version everything was fine and dandy.
Quote from: Casearcana on October 04, 2014, 10:30:44 PM
...I just downloaded the right version of More Storage. One of the links on the forum posting is still for A6 which I accidentally downloaded. Once I got the updated version everything was fine and dandy.
Got it. No problem. Thanks for chasing down the cause.
you're not the only one casearcana, I had the exact same problem. Author of more storage really needs to update his first post with the new download link xD
I am also having the same problem... runnin no mods idk why i am not getting the Buttons from what i can tell its only happening to me at the Starting Invintory screen where i pick what items i want dropped down with me.
Quote from: nerevar on October 05, 2014, 02:43:44 AM
you're not the only one casearcana, I had the exact same problem. Author of more storage really needs to update his first post with the new download link xD
I thought the giant text saying use my github and the "A6" in the old download was enough to wotk out which one to use...ill remove the A6 download if itll help but some people are still playing A6.
It was clear enough... on a second read-through. And it is clearly marked that the one link is A6. It would perhaps maybe be helpful to have both links next to each other clearly listed as "A7 -- More Storage" "A6 -- More Storage" or something, just so that things are clearly stated and not just implied. Not a big deal -- there'll always be confusion with new releases, I'm sure.
Bump
Still having the problem with the buttons not appearing in the inventory part. No mods running but this one still forced to Ctrl Alt Del the program each time. tried re-downloading it 5 times now... still nothing works.
Quote from: EdB on October 02, 2014, 11:10:57 PM
In general, if you run into the kind of issue that completely breaks your game, and you suspect that it may be the fault of a particular mod, it can be helpful to track down the game's log file and send that to the mod maker. The log file is named output_log.txt and is in the game directory (i.e. RimWorld581Win\RimWorld581Win_Data\output_log.txt). You can email that to me or find the errors at the end of the file and paste them in a private message to me--it's probably too much detail for the main forum topic. The errors in those files can be really useful in tracking down where a failure happened and if it's a mod that's causing it. The mod file gets rewritten every time you start a game, so any errors recorded from a previous game will be lost when you start a new game.
Of course, my goal is to make the mod stable so that you don't have to deal with the hassle of game crashes and tracking down log files, but I appreciate any help. It's impossible for me to test everything.
Quoting from an earlier post. It's hard for me say what's going since it doesn't seem to be a common issue--is anyone else seeing this when this is the only mod enabled? Other info that would be useful: are you on Windows/Mac/Linux? Does it happen only when you make certain selections from the character creation screen, or it happens no matter what--even if you just leave the defaults? Sounds like it happens no matter what, but figured I'd ask to be sure.
Windows 7 I7 Prossessor Nvidia 660ti on a 1600 x 900 monitor only running this mod all by its lonesome hoping to find the mod that interfered with it funny thing is.... it still does it. even with all the mods off. ive even gone as far as removing all mods to desktop but this one... it seems to happen after i select my guys and go to the starting items that will fall with my guys. there is no finalize button... or numbers to indicate points left. everything else is there, just not that.
other then this information there is nothing else i can provide. Everything else seems to work just that menu in general.
Quote from: Kolljak on October 05, 2014, 05:07:45 PM
other then this information there is nothing else i can provide.
Sorry that it's not working for you and thanks for taking the time to troubleshoot the problem. Besides getting a look at the game's log file, there's unfortunately not much more that I can do. In the next release, I'll try to add better error-checking so that even if it fails, it will not force you to do a ctrl-alt-delete, and it will display at least a little more information as to why it's failing.
Thanks for this! :)
Gona try to launch it agian the ctrl alt delete and get log file if i can. ill post it here.
figured it out.. it was a strange bug that sent my points on the Character making thing to -862
did some tweeking and got it working for some reason it was allowing me into the next menu w/o having a positive number of points available so there was no way for me to possibly continue.
Possible fix would be include a button remover for when a negative number is in that value.... no + no button
so people cant continue forward unless they have a positive value or 0.
Quote from: Kolljak on October 05, 2014, 06:51:49 PM
...it was allowing me into the next menu w/o having a positive number of points available so there was no way for me to possibly continue.
Having negative points in the equipment screen should actually be ok. If you have the point system enabled, it won't let you go past the equipment screen with negative points, but it should let you go back and forth between the character screen and the equipment screen with negative points. If you've disabled the point system and you're seeing negative points, then something weird is going on--with the point system disabled, it should only ever show a positive number of points (the number spent).
I just figured I'd let ya know that I just played a game using this mod as well as several others and had no problems of any kind.
Hope you don't mind Edb but I spotlighted your mod :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnkZ51aUG6o
Love this mod ! :D
Quote from: Sooner535 on October 05, 2014, 09:29:21 PM
Hope you don't mind Edb but I spotlighted your mod
Don't mind at all--thanks for doing it!
I've release a new version, v1.2.1. The first alpha 7 release was done relatively quickly just to get it out and working. This release adds proper support for alpha 7's "things made of stuff" feature. As usual with my early releases, I expect this one to have a few bugs. Thanks in advance for the patience and for acting as testers with your bug reports. Besides follow-up bugfix releases, I expect this to be the last version before alpha 8.
Release notes:
- The apparel customization UI now lets you select a material for any apparel items that can be crafted using "stuff." For this type of apparel, the color that you select blends with the default color of the material to determine the final apparel color.
- Apparel in the equipment screen is now listed separately by material.
- Added a third trait slot.
- Tweaked the maximum number of points and the colonist point costs.
- Right-clicking the passion indicator lowers the passion level instead of increasing it.
- Added some additional error handling so that the mod gives up when there's a fatal error instead of continuing to log an error every frame. Probably does not cover every scenario, but it should be better.
- Skills no longer go below zero (since negative numbers no longer impact a colonist's "market value").
- Removed the neurotrainer from the list of available items. It wasn't working correctly, and it doesn't really make sense to add it when you can just increase your colonists skill on the character screen--for far fewer points.
- Changed the preset file format so that it is now more forgiving when you enable and disable mods. You'll see an error message telling you that some definitions failed to load. To see which definitions, look at the console. Old preset files should still work, but no promises. I recommend re-saving them so that they are stored in the new file format.
- BUGFIX: No longer tries to create apparel out of synthread if that apparel cannot be "made of stuff."
Do you think you could add a option to save per colonist rather or in conjunction with save preset?
Quote from: Sooner535 on October 07, 2014, 12:52:40 AM
Do you think you could add a option to save per colonist rather or in conjunction with save preset?
This would be great. I love making me and my friends in game. Would be fun to change the group that goes in without having to redo the others.
Quote from: Sooner535 on October 07, 2014, 12:52:40 AM
This would be great. I love making me and my friends in game. Would be fun to change the group that goes in without having to redo the others.
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Whenever I do that Michael always dies
Justin goes crazy and kills either Benji or tommy
Jack is useless
And I sit there virtual face-palming the whole time
Im constantly shouting down to the Mrs:
"you just died from plague!"
"some raider just blew your leg off!"
"I may or may not of accidentally collapsed a roof on you..."
and my best yet:
"Darling a squirrel just ate yer face!"
Quote from: skullywag on October 07, 2014, 02:34:49 PM
Im constantly shouting down to the Mrs:
"you just died from plague!"
"some raider just blew your leg off!"
"I may or may not of accidentally collapsed a roof on you..."
and my best yet:
"Darling a squirrel just ate yer face!"
This reminds me of myself while playing Xcom ;D
Everybody got live feed in great detail what they just did and how they died
Quote from: Shinzy on October 07, 2014, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: skullywag on October 07, 2014, 02:34:49 PM
Im constantly shouting down to the Mrs:
"you just died from plague!"
"some raider just blew your leg off!"
"I may or may not of accidentally collapsed a roof on you..."
and my best yet:
"Darling a squirrel just ate yer face!"
This reminds me of myself while playing Xcom ;D
Everybody got live feed in great detail what they just did and how they died
Just got told off for sleeping next to another female ingame....can we add a jealous trait to the game....I have psycho so that fine....wait...shes behind me isnt she? oh SHIIIIiiiiiii......
RIP Skully
Quote from: shadowstreaker on October 07, 2014, 02:51:25 PM
RIP Skully
Lived a happy life, in a marital bliss full of banter and joy
Quote from: Shinzy on October 07, 2014, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: skullywag on October 07, 2014, 02:34:49 PM
"Darling a squirrel just ate yer face!"
This reminds me of myself while playing Xcom ;D
Everybody got live feed in great detail what they just did and how they died
Perhaps someone can suggest a squirrel mod on the XCOM forums. The horror! :D
I noticed a bug or two. When I am setting up my colonists clothes they are wearing I managed to set everything on the first guy with no problems but when I got to the second guy and tried to select the Pants selections the window goes blank and only shows the next and back buttons. I am able to click next and then go back from there and edit all the other clothing options but not the pants. And then once I got everything set up minus pants on my other two colonists I tried to start the game but it flashed the "generating map" message but that went away quickly and nothing happened after that.
Woah. How have I not seen this before today?!?
Most definitely using this. Cheers!
Quote from: Igabod on October 07, 2014, 05:56:03 PM
...When I am setting up my colonists clothes they are wearing I managed to set everything on the first guy with no problems but when I got to the second guy and tried to select the Pants selections the window goes blank and only shows the next and back buttons. I am able to click next and then go back from there and edit all the other clothing options but not the pants. And then once I got everything set up minus pants on my other two colonists I tried to start the game but it flashed the "generating map" message but that went away quickly and nothing happened after that.
Sorry that it didn't work properly for you. Are you seeing this consistently? If so, could you maybe describe a series of steps that I can take to reproduce the problem? I've been trying, but I can't get this to happen.
Just an fyi, it seems the attachment of the newest version to the OP is corrupt. The dropbox version extracted fine, though.
Quote from: bobtheconqueror on October 08, 2014, 12:41:02 AM
Just an fyi, it seems the attachment of the newest version to the OP is corrupt. The dropbox version extracted fine, though.
Might be due to the recent website migration or it might not, there was a problem with images after they were migrated.
Quote from: Coenmcj on October 08, 2014, 12:46:47 AM
Quote from: bobtheconqueror on October 08, 2014, 12:41:02 AM
Just an fyi, it seems the attachment of the newest version to the OP is corrupt. The dropbox version extracted fine, though.
Might be due to the recent website migration or it might not, there was a problem with images after they were migrated.
Thanks for the heads up. I replaced it.
Ok, after testing again it didn't happen until I randomized the outfit on my 2nd colonist (didn't think about doing that until after I set up the first guys clothes). I'm not sure what the problem is, maybe it's trying to load a piece of clothing that doesn't exist in the code when I randomize. If there is a file I can send you that details the errors then just tell me where to find it and I'll be glad to send it.
[edit to add] I did click randomize numerous times. On this one I set the first guy up with devilstrand clothes including pants, button-down shirt, Armor Vest, Raider Jacket, and Light Power Armor Helmet (from apparello). I also set all his skills to have double flames. Then I set the 2nd guy's skills to double flames and then went to randomize the outfit. They both had the backgrounds of adventuring child and colony settler. If you need more info I'll give it to you.
I just bought the game recently, so I'm not too familiar with the balance atm, but i think ur mode should promote bad traits. Let's say we choose "slowpoke" which reduces our movement speed. The addon gives 30 stat point penalty for that over the "nothing" option. We should actually get bonus stat points for picking something like that imo.
Moreover, getting into that kind of detail on the traits, Industrious and Jogger (30% work speed and +double the runspeed of Fast Walker) should cost more points than Fast Walker and Hard Worker. Too Smart should cost a lot, too. Some of them are really, REALLY helpful for the cost of a simple trait.
Quote from: Igabod on October 08, 2014, 03:10:22 AM
Ok, after testing again it didn't happen until I randomized the outfit on my 2nd colonist (didn't think about doing that until after I set up the first guys clothes)...
Thanks for the info. That gives me a pretty good idea of what might be causing it. I'll work on a fix.
Quote from: Igabod on October 08, 2014, 03:10:22 AM
...maybe it's trying to load a piece of clothing that doesn't exist in the code when I randomize...
The randomize button was not handling the new materials correctly. I posted a version with a fix, v1.2.2, that I think will take care of it. Thanks for the bug report!
Cool! ;D
Really love the mod. It makes starting a colony a whole lot easier, especially on the higher difficulties or on a different storyteller. I was able to make myself into it and a few friends.
Loving this. Excellent job! Now I can start my colony of psychopaths and cannibals as I wanted :)
Quote from: Hoodinski on October 10, 2014, 04:07:20 AM
Loving this. Excellent job! Now I can start my colony of psychopaths and cannibals as I wanted :)
That is exactly the first thing I did with this mod. It was pretty funny. I named the town Cannibalville and laughed at the poor saps who decided it was a good place to visit only to be kidnapped and butchered and served as a lavish meal on a cheap crappy wooden 2x2 table. I found that it's difficult to keep up the cannibal thing if you want to have more than your starting number of colonists though. I set a restriction on who I recruited to the colony as only psychopaths and or cannibals. Only had my starting 3 guys for the whole game (this was before you could add as many guys as you wanted). It was difficult but way fun.
Are you planning on adding bionics to this mod? Having a lone survivor made purely of bionic parts is definitely high on my to-do list. Maybe I'm just missing something.
Quote from: TheClassiness on October 11, 2014, 01:45:52 AM
Are you planning on adding bionics to this mod? Having a lone survivor made purely of bionic parts is definitely high on my to-do list. Maybe I'm just missing something.
It's a good idea--I will definitely consider adding it.
Quote from: EdB on October 11, 2014, 02:03:51 AM
Quote from: TheClassiness on October 11, 2014, 01:45:52 AM
Are you planning on adding bionics to this mod? Having a lone survivor made purely of bionic parts is definitely high on my to-do list. Maybe I'm just missing something.
It's a good idea--I will definitely consider adding it.
I second this notion.
Quote from: EdB on October 11, 2014, 02:03:51 AM
Quote from: TheClassiness on October 11, 2014, 01:45:52 AM
Are you planning on adding bionics to this mod? Having a lone survivor made purely of bionic parts is definitely high on my to-do list. Maybe I'm just missing something.
It's a good idea--I will definitely consider adding it.
Awesome. Maybe you could simply make a health tab and apply different scars or remove limbs, if that's not too extensive. This would obviously take a lot of balancing and testing to make sure the points match up with the effects, but the medical system is expanding every update.
I love this mods,i can create differents history bakcgroungs.
Derp, posted this on your other topic. Removed that and posting here.
Apologies if this has been requested already, but is it possible you could add the option to save individual colonist setups? I feel I'd make use of that a lot more than saving an entire preset.
Thanks for this mod!
I always make my own embark profiles for DF and now I can do it on RW, too. It's awesome that you can select rare traits, adds so much to the game. =3
Quote from: Alzarath on October 11, 2014, 05:04:24 PM
...Apologies if this has been requested already, but is it possible you could add the option to save individual colonist setups? I feel I'd make use of that a lot more than saving an entire preset.
Yes, this has been requested, and I agree that it's a great idea. I'm not sure when the next release with new features will be, but it's very likely that I will add this.
please make one with no points system
Please uncheck the 'use points' box first.
THANK GOD,i finaly stop breaking my randomize button ;D
Quote from: jeghaderludeon on October 12, 2014, 09:41:45 AM
please make one with no points system
Click the "Use Points" checkbox in the lower-left to disable the points system:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b636/edbmods/disable-points_zps2f09639b.jpg)
It will still show a point value in the lower-right, but it will switch from showing how many points you have left to showing how many points you've spent--and it won't care how many you spend.
i rarely use mods these days and just stick to vanilla, but this one is totally worth it.
thanks for this. ;D
Quote from: EdB on October 12, 2014, 01:45:02 PM
Quote from: jeghaderludeon on October 12, 2014, 09:41:45 AM
please make one with no points system
Click the "Use Points" checkbox in the lower-left to disable the points system:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b636/edbmods/disable-points_zps2f09639b.jpg)
It will still show a point value in the lower-right, but it will switch from showing how many points you have left to showing how many points you've spent--and it won't care how many you spend.
thx ily finally i can create a deserted space marine outpost
Hey
So I started a colony with your two mods (This one and the UI one) and I was wondering if you did anything with the disease system. Because it's been a few days now and I haven't gotten a single sick colonist yet. I dunno if I'm just getting extremely lucky in this play through or if it's one of the mods but the lack of disease is startling <3
Okay nevermind. I don't know if I accidently clicked randy random or what but half my 90% of my colony just randomly came down with disease at once. A major "oh shit" moment.
luckily plagues aren't nearly as deadly in the future that Rimworld takes place in. Just make sure you have hospital beds available and some medicine. If the plague is Extreme then tell the colonist to rest until fully healed. Otherwise they can get back to work after being treated and will just have to go back for another treatment every few days till they develop a temporary immunity to it. Unfortunately they can catch it again in the future once the immunity wears off. Dunno if that is a bug or was intended but that's how it is.
Just wanted to drop a note, love your mods. I use this and EDB Interface in every game now regardless of which other mods I'm exploring
TAKE ALL OF MY MONEY
Hey guys,
So I love the idea of this and the interface mod. I am trying to use the mods on Rimworld on Windows 8. Now I add the mods into the folder, start the game, use the mods tab to check them in... Then nothing happens. I've gone hunting around and can't figure out either what I am doing wrong. My output log says that they are initialized, but I dont know if that means anything. Neither the interface mod or Prepare Carefully appear to work (the 1.2.2 version, anyway, not tried the last version).
Anyone have any Ideas? Any information I can share that might help solve the issue?
check you havent got the mod in a folder in a folder, so mods/modname/files not mods/modname/modname/files..
Quote from: skullywag on October 14, 2014, 03:25:33 PM
check you havent got the mod in a folder in a folder, so mods/modname/files not mods/modname/modname/files..
Already checked that a couple of times, appears not to be.
EDIT: Just redid my download, mods, and the like and it suddenly worked... Ah well, alls well that ends well.
Quote from: DornColonies on October 14, 2014, 03:22:51 PM
Now I add the mods into the folder, start the game, use the mods tab to check them in... Then nothing happens.
Sorry that you had trouble getting it working. This does happen for some people. I wish I could figure out why. I may try to add some additional logging to the console so that when it happens, there's a little more information.
It might be how they unzip the mod archive. The game does not read custom folders inside other folders.
IE: A2B folder inside another folder named A2B it will ignore the inner folder.
So is it possible that changing the colonist age is only superficially changing it so it appears as such in game? I tend to start all my colonists young so I don't have to worry about age problems. However, my last game ended up giving my character cataracts at age 16. I don't remember what the colonists age was before I changed it, but I am thinking the cataracts ignored my age change and gave it the catacts based off of what it originally was. Not a big deal.; just thought you would like to know.
I've noticed a few colonists getting cataracts at very young ages before. Never really thought it might be a result of this mod. Of course I've only played a couple games without this mod enabled because it wasn't updated yet.
Cataracts can happen semi-young. Had a 30 year old get them, before ever using this mod. Not sure just how young it can happen, though.
Just have to start by saying that this is an amazing mod, it really opens up possibilities with arranging the game that you want to play in the way you want to play. Great addition to the game. I've been running it with your interface, TTM, PA (they're not bundled atm, yet) and a few other mods, and it really allows the game to take off and utilize the potential of the engine and the environment that RimWorld has.
One simple request that I have, not important by any means, is a simple UI edit. I once wanted to start off 10 colonists with power armor and 20 points in everything, then go to Dev mode, enable god mode, build a superb fortress complete with mortars, turrets, everything you can imagine. It was a fun game when I sent wave after wave after wave into my fortress and watched my 10 super-soldiers handle it all with ease.... Until a few spawns at the same time sent mechanoids crashing into the middle of my mortar room and the surrounding area. That didn't end too well xD
What I propose is a edit that allows you to allocate the number of points that you wish to each skill without having to click one point at a time. 20 in each skill x10 colonists made that setup take a LONG time to do xD. Maybe a text box that appears if you click on the bar rather then the + and - buttons, or a box next to the + that allows you to increase x10 instead of x1. Just a random suggestion ^.^
Quote from: stingerxxx on October 16, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
...What I propose is a edit that allows you to allocate the number of points that you wish to each skill without having to click one point at a time. 20 in each skill x10 colonists made that setup take a LONG time to do xD. Maybe a text box that appears if you click on the bar rather then the + and - buttons, or a box next to the + that allows you to increase x10 instead of x1. Just a random suggestion ^.^
Doing something about this has been on my to-do list for awhile, but I keep putting it off in favor of other things. The way I'll probably address this is to make it so that you can click (or click-and-drag) on the skill bar and have it automatically set the value to match where you click.
Quote from: Matthiasagreen on October 16, 2014, 09:45:41 AM
So is it possible that changing the colonist age is only superficially changing it so it appears as such in game?
Yes, this is a bug. I don't think it affects anything after the game starts, but your colonist could get stuck with cataracts because of the original age before you change it. I'll fix this.
Quote from: TheSilencedScream on October 16, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Cataracts can happen semi-young. Had a 30 year old get them, before ever using this mod. Not sure just how young it can happen, though.
15 in this game in real life i have on in my right eye im 26.
why do we start with random points? (ive tested by loading and the points we get are randomized)
Quote from: Dragoon on October 17, 2014, 02:55:48 AM
why do we start with random points? (ive tested by loading and the points we get are randomized)
And I also think that maybe too much points are given?
I can actually make 20 points in 3 skills. It would be nice to have like 10 points for all skills, in other words you put +3 points in growing, and you have 7 left for another skill, so you can have a Master grower if you put all 10 in growing, master miner and so on, not having 1 character godlike grower,miner,constructor, another one godlike shooter, melee,surgeon and third one godlike researchers,social and crafter for an example,it takes out the flavor of developing a character, it is fun to make a character good in something, but not max out 1/3 of his skills from the beginning.
And also age may matter in how much points are distributed, if you have played crusader kings and you were choosing the stats of the ruler, the older he was the bigger stats you could give him, but also the faster he will die, although here in rimworld age may not change things a lot.
(dont get me wrong, I really like the mod and the idea, trying to offer some balancing ideas)
Quote from: Dragoon on October 17, 2014, 02:55:48 AM
why do we start with random points? (ive tested by loading and the points we get are randomized)
The three starting colonists are the same three that you would get if you did not use the mod, so they are randomized in the same way. You always get 7000 points to spend. I decided to use the "market value" concept that was introduced in alpha 7 to determine the point value of each character. The only additions that I made are to give point values for the number of passions and the number of traits that you add--they don't have any value otherwise, so I felt like I needed to add a value. Besides these two exceptions, you are paying the same amount in points for everything that you would be paying in silver to a trader during the game (setting aside trading bonuses from social skills). I prefer to use the values built into the game than to try to do a bunch of balancing on my own.
Quote from: Tsilliev on October 17, 2014, 06:04:13 AM
And I also think that maybe too much points are given?
I chose the 7000 number by starting a bunch of games and figuring out the maximum number of points that you could get from the 3 random starting colonists. Usually, you get about 6500 points, but some backstories give you better characters who ended up giving you about 7000. Again, since I'm using the "market value" of the colonists, you're seeing the in-game value of those characters. A maxed-out 20-points-in-every-skill character has a market value somewhere around 2000 silver when dealing with a trader during a game. You could definitely make the argument that this is a little low--especially in comparison to some of the apparel--but for now, I think I've decided to leave it to the vanilla game to balance these numbers out.
Quote from: Tsilliev on October 17, 2014, 06:04:13 AM
...It would be nice to have like 10 points for all skills...
EDIT: It's unlikely that I would set a maximum number of skill points that you can allocate--I think a lot of people like to go crazy and give a lot of skill points--but I would consider making skills points beyond a certain allocation cost most. In the vanilla game, each colonist gets 3 skill points for each skill, adjusted by backstory and trait bonuses and penalties. So each colonist starts with 33 skill points allocated. Anything beyond that is more than you would get in the vanilla game, so you could adjust the cost accordingly. I'm not sure that I'll change the behavior, but it's something that I would consider.
After switching off every mod I have and starting them up again one at a time, I seem to have found a compatibility issue between this mod and JuliaEllie's Recipe Nurse mod/ tool located here - https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6640.0.
If you activate the Nurse mod/tool while your Prepare Carefully mod is activated the button for body part harvesting/ replacement stops working.
You can poke it for hours and all it will do is lag the game for a few seconds each time.
Oddly enough there are no Error messages in the logs saying what exactly is going wrong, just the experience itself.
Both are still very fun/ useful mods though.
Quote from: EdB on October 17, 2014, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: Dragoon on October 17, 2014, 02:55:48 AM
why do we start with random points? (ive tested by loading and the points we get are randomized)
The three starting colonists are the same three that you would get if you did not use the mod, so they are randomized in the same way. You always get 7000 points to spend. I decided to use the "market value" concept that was introduced in alpha 7 to determine the point value of each character. The only additions that I made are to give point values for the number of passions and the number of traits that you add--they don't have any value otherwise, so I felt like I needed to add a value. Besides these two exceptions, you are paying the same amount in points for everything that you would be paying in silver to a trader during the game (setting aside trading bonuses from social skills). I prefer to use the values built into the game than to try to do a bunch of balancing on my own.
I don't mean starting new I mean that I saved a preset then loaded it the points and I have left over are random examples (I haven't c hanged anything but when I load the points I have changes sometimes I get more sometimes I get less.)
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Quote from: Dragoon on October 17, 2014, 04:41:13 PM
I don't mean starting new I mean that I saved a preset then loaded it the points and I have left over are random examples (I haven't c hanged anything but when I load the points I have changes sometimes I get more sometimes I get less.)
Thanks for the clarification. I see what you mean now. That is a bug. I will take a look.
Any chance on the next update to this incorporating bionics ?
Quote from: Dragoon on October 17, 2014, 04:41:13 PM
I don't mean starting new I mean that I saved a preset then loaded it the points and I have left over are random examples (I haven't c hanged anything but when I load the points I have changes sometimes I get more sometimes I get less.)
Quote from: Matthiasagreen on October 16, 2014, 09:45:41 AM
So is it possible that changing the colonist age is only superficially changing it so it appears as such in game? I tend to start all my colonists young so I don't have to worry about age problems. However, my last game ended up giving my character cataracts at age 16.
I've done a bugfix release, v1.2.3, that addresses these two issues. Full release notes:
- Changed the multipliers for resources so that you can add smaller stacks and therefore have less expensive options.
- BUGFIX: Traits are now correctly loaded from presets. This should fix the random changes to the total point value when loading a preset.
- BUGFIX: Old injuries are now correctly generated based on age.
EdB rules. Thanks for the fix; I've been working around that bug with the points after loading a preset by re-jiggering each trait after a load, but this seems to be a fix to that. Thanks!
Quote from: matty491 on October 19, 2014, 02:33:56 PM
Any chance on the next update to this incorporating bionics ?
I'm not sure when the next full release with new features will be, but the two features that I plan to add are 1) the ability to save and load individual colonists and 2) the ability to add bionics to your colonists. #2 may expand into a way to control the overall health of colonists (old scars and injuries, etc.), but we'll see how it plays out. The biggest problem I'm having is finding a place to put new UI elements in that window--I'm running out of space, but I'll figure something out.
YAY!!! :)
Hey Edb, add an option that makes the colonists incapped like when there is a crash landing, and there are survivors... So you would have to build quickly to avoid deaths... Or take a risk to see if they are incapped or not...
Hi im having trouble installing/using this mod. I unzipped it to the Rimworld mods folder and activated it in the games mods menu but the prepare carefully button is not appearing on the charecter screen. Have tried re installing aswell as restarting the game and the computer and its still not there.
Quote from: Fish on October 22, 2014, 07:23:59 AM
Hi im having trouble installing/using this mod. I unzipped it to the Rimworld mods folder and activated it in the games mods menu but the prepare carefully button is not appearing on the charecter screen. Have tried re installing aswell as restarting the game and the computer and its still not there.
Make sure you dont have the mod double foldered...mods/modname not mods/modname/modname.
Quote from: Fish on October 22, 2014, 07:23:59 AM
Hi im having trouble installing/using this mod. I unzipped it to the Rimworld mods folder and activated it in the games mods menu but the prepare carefully button is not appearing on the charecter screen. Have tried re installing aswell as restarting the game and the computer and its still not there.
Also be sure that you do not change the name of the mod folder. It will not work if you rename it.
Quote from: skullywag on October 22, 2014, 07:44:08 AM
Quote from: Fish on October 22, 2014, 07:23:59 AM
Hi im having trouble installing/using this mod. I unzipped it to the Rimworld mods folder and activated it in the games mods menu but the prepare carefully button is not appearing on the charecter screen. Have tried re installing aswell as restarting the game and the computer and its still not there.
Make sure you dont have the mod double foldered...mods/modname not mods/modname/modname.
Yeah that was the problem, works now, thank you.
Thanks for the mod edb, finnaly instead of landing with 3 sickly old men I can essentially land with a chapter of adeptus astartes :D
The emperor protects
Recently I got tired of playing with really well armored and armed people and decided to switch things up a bit. I made one game where my starting colonists were 3 miners and the pilot of the ship. Made up a story where they were part of a large expedition toward a mining colony and the ship crashed leaving just them and the pilot alive. None of them has any passions except mining at 2 flames and one other thing at 1 flame (construction for one, growing for another, and shooting for the third miner). The pilot was skilled at social and that was it. I found it to be a fun challenge and even more fun to come up with the stories based upon the fact that they are all totally lost as to what to do. The colony didn't last too long before mechs destroyed them, but that was actually part of the fun of the story. None of my colonies has had a happy ending but I enjoy it all the same.
Wow,this mod is just...great!
I finally can make my squad have the same color!
Really useful,and probably the best actual mod in here.
I also noticed it's supports a few of apparelo and "more hairs" 's hair types,
Which was pretty nice.
Can you make this have back stories in alphabetical order?
Quote from: Dragoon on November 01, 2014, 03:34:14 AM
Can you make this have back stories in alphabetical order?
When you're not as familiar with all of the backstories, I like clicking the next and previous buttons and not really knowing what you're going to get next, but I understand that once you know them well, you just want to quickly find the one that you want.
I'll probably leave the order as is when you're using those next and previous buttons, but I'll alphabetize it when you click to open the full list.
I can live with that 8)
Seems some of the traits I wanted are gone. :P That's rather odd.
Anyway, think you could add a birthday modifier too? So you can choose colonist birthdays?
One more thought, is the ability to create custom backstories, that only get saved within the save file, or maybe wherever the presets are saved to.
The mod doesn't seem to work for me i downloaded it and put it in the mod folder and turned it on what am i doing wrong?
Are you sure you followed the guidlines (hint look below)
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Quote from: Vas on November 04, 2014, 10:11:50 AM
Seems some of the traits I wanted are gone. :P That's rather odd.
Can you give me an example? I'd like to make sure that nothing is getting left out.
Quote from: DJEquestria on November 04, 2014, 03:51:58 PM
The mod doesn't seem to work for me i downloaded it and put it in the mod folder and turned it on what am i doing wrong?
The key item from the Mod Help! thread referenced above is this one:
3. Move the folder into the mods folder, located in your Rimworld install location, make sure that the mods files are 1 level deep (for example /mods/modname/defs. not /mods/modname/modname/defs as sometimes happens.
Also be sure that you'd don't rename the mod folder. If you change it from "EdBPrepareCarefully" to something else, it won't work. I don't think that's an issue with most mods, but it's important for both of the EdB mods.
Is there a way to check how healthy my colonist will land?
Because i rly hate it to spawn with cataract or scars :c
Quote from: Reysuke on November 05, 2014, 11:49:34 PM
Is there a way to check how healthy my colonist will land?
Because i rly hate it to spawn with cataract or scars :c
Currently, there is no way to do this. Old injuries are assigned randomly based on the age of the colonist when the game starts. I'm working on a way to add bionics to your colonists, but I'm not sure that's going to extend to being able to choose injuries. If it doesn't, maybe I'll just include a way to turn off injuries for a given colonist.
I've released a new version, 1.3.1 that adds the following features:
- Save and load individual colonists (credit to Sooner535 for first suggesting this idea).
- Added a "Body Parts" option above the colonist portrait along with the apparel layers. From here, you'll be able to assign bionics to your colonists (credit to TheClassiness for first suggesting this) and turn off random injury generation.
- You can click inside the skill bars to set the skill level instead of clicking on the arrow buttons.
- Backstories and Traits are now sorted alphabetically when you open the full list (credit to Dragoon for requesting this).
Hopefully there aren't too many bugs in there, but please let me know if I missed any issues. Full release notes:
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Version 1.3.1 (2014-11-08)
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- Added a "Body Parts" option above the colonist portrait. Use it to:
- Add bionics to your colonists.
- Disable old injury generation on your colonists.
- Save and load individual colonists.
- You can now click on the skill bar to set your skill level.
- Traits and backstories are now sorted alphabetically when you open the
dialog to view the full list.
- BUGFIX: Initial work priorities are now correctly assigned based on chosen
skill levels
- BUGFIX: Selecting a backstory that has duplicate names (like "Assassin")
now chooses the correct one in the Backstory selection dialog.
just wanted to start playing rimworld again after some weeks now (first time with alpha7), couldn't play without the complete TTM mod package and your mods are pretty much essential too :).
just as i was starting a new game i browsed the forums and found out about the newest update, installed 1.2.3 initially but i switched it out with 1.3.1 now. haven't actually played the game but after installing the 1.3.1 version i get a bunch of error code on the game launch (main menue).
hope this helps you (see attachment).
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Quote from: Xerberus86 on November 08, 2014, 06:01:13 PM
just wanted to start playing rimworld again after some weeks now (first time with alpha7), couldn't play without the complete TTM mod package and your mods are pretty much essential too :).
just as i was starting a new game i browsed the forums and found out about the newest update, installed 1.2.3 initially but i switched it out with 1.3.1 now. haven't actually played the game but after installing the 1.3.1 version i get a bunch of error code on the game launch (main menue).
hope this helps you (see attachment).
I don't think those are caused by Prepare Carefully. The red messages you're seeing pop up (InstallBionicLiver, InstallBionicJaw, etc) are from the Recipe Nurse mod (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6640.0) and are normal. When I say "normal," I mean that's just how the mod works. I find them a little frustrating. I hope JuliaEllie changes them from log errors--which force the console to pop up--to log message, which don't. The others look like they have something to do with mods and missing translations--I'm not sure about those.
ah ok, well i just got the message with prepare carefully 1.3.1, with 1.2.3 i didn'T get them. weird o.O.
How about the ability to set a colonist's birthday? Also to change their body type. I'm tired of getting fat people that look like a giant ball with a head on it. :P
Quote from: Vas on November 09, 2014, 12:34:24 PM
How about the ability to set a colonist's birthday? Also to change their body type. I'm tired of getting fat people that look like a giant ball with a head on it. :P
I'll add the birthday option to the list of requested features. Seems like a reasonable thing to add, but it will probably be a lower priority for the time being.
Unfortunately, the body type is directly tied to the colonist's adult backstory, and I have not found a workaround that would let me override it--so I won't be able to add that until it's changed in the vanilla game.
Does your DLL scan the game for traits? Or does it have traits listed in the DLL it's self?
I can't tell if some are missing from the game or not, last time I played (ages back in Alpha 2 and 3), the game had a lot more traits, and you could have 4 traits rather than 3.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30270697/output2.txt
These used to be the traits I could find before, but some appear not to show up in your mod. Are they deleted from the game or are they just not found by your mod? Or what?
Do you think you could create a separate tool to export the traits, child/adulthoods, all the stuff that defines a pawn? I'd like to have a spreadsheet with the descriptions and effects of each trait and childhood and stuff.
Quote from: Vas on November 10, 2014, 01:47:08 PM
Does your DLL scan the game for traits? Or does it have traits listed in the DLL it's self?
I can't tell if some are missing from the game or not, last time I played (ages back in Alpha 2 and 3), the game had a lot more traits, and you could have 4 traits rather than 3.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30270697/output2.txt
These used to be the traits I could find before, but some appear not to show up in your mod. Are they deleted from the game or are they just not found by your mod? Or what?
Do you think you could create a separate tool to export the traits, child/adulthoods, all the stuff that defines a pawn? I'd like to have a spreadsheet with the descriptions and effects of each trait and childhood and stuff.
As far as I can tell, when traits started having an impact on gameplay in Alpha 7 (or was it Alpha 6?), they changed, and a lot of the ones that you mention from the earlier versions were removed. Traits are defined in XML files in the Core mod now (/Mods/Core/Defs/TraitDefs) and should therefore be mod-able. When characters are randomly generated in vanilla, they are given one or two traits. I added a third slot to the mod just for fun.
What about the childhood and adulthood lists? I didn't see those in Core.
Quote from: Vas on November 11, 2014, 10:36:41 AM
What about the childhood and adulthood lists? I didn't see those in Core.
Backstories are still only defined in the game resource binaries. It's easy to access them from the code, but it would require some effort to export them to a useable format.
Oh right is there an info button like on the side of weapons/appereal items in general ? I ask cause I wanna sure I take what I want/need and not a wildcard (unless you want it to be one) .
Quote from: Dragoon on November 12, 2014, 05:07:15 PM
Oh right is there an info button like on the side of weapons/appereal items in general ? I ask cause I wanna sure I take what I want/need and not a wildcard (unless you want it to be one) .
Yes, it definitely makes sense to add this extra information either as a tooltip (which has been on my list of things to do for a long time) or to just add the "i" info button.
i know it may be asking for much, by the way I LOVE THIS MOD, makes this game repayable 1000 times over, but would it be possible to add a feature to have more than a maximum of 10 colonists? ive been playing around with the saves and got myself a starting colony of 35 which turned out to be a hell of a lot of fun but when i load up the save again it duplicates a colonist for some reason. Adding a no max colonist option would really make my day, thank you so much for this mod, it really is the crown gem of this forum!
So you don't plan on exporting them as text only or anything? :P I had hoped to make something with it all outside the game. Basically, I wanted to make your prepare carefully mod work outside the game either from a site or program. That way a friend can create a character that I can then import into the game. :P So they can see all the stuff without loading the game to see the stats.
Can we get an installation guide? I just got rimworld two weeks ago, this is my first mod. How do I enable this?
Quote from: Kelian on November 13, 2014, 07:59:46 PM
Can we get an installation guide? I just got rimworld two weeks ago, this is my first mod. How do I enable this?
Take a look at this thread:
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.0
Quote from: Vas on November 13, 2014, 02:15:11 PM
So you don't plan on exporting them as text only or anything? :P I had hoped to make something with it all outside the game. Basically, I wanted to make your prepare carefully mod work outside the game either from a site or program. That way a friend can create a character that I can then import into the game. :P So they can see all the stuff without loading the game to see the stats.
I've attached a dump of all of the backstories as an XML file. I hope it helps. I did this as a one-off export using utility functions available in the game code, but I did not create any kind of full-fledged tool--I just don't have time to do that. Note that this export format should not be considered as any kind of standard format that the game uses. I have not looked in detail at how they are loaded.
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Quote from: EdB on November 13, 2014, 09:01:24 PMI've attached a dump of all of the backstories as an XML file. I hope it helps. I did this as a one-off export using utility functions available in the game code, but I did not create any kind of full-fledged tool--I just don't have time to do that. Note that this export format should not be considered as any kind of standard format that the game uses. I have not looked in detail at how they are loaded.
Thanks, I think I've seen this somewhere before, but I don't exactly remember where, I do remember that there were maybe 2 more files that contained more special backstories though, player special versions and such. I couldn't remember how I managed to get to it though, so I don't know exactly what to do to get to it myself. When I use the Unity Asset Exporter tool, it errors part way through.
Quote from: Vas on November 14, 2014, 12:20:02 PM
...I do remember that there were maybe 2 more files that contained more special backstories though, player special versions and such...
This export puts them into one file, but it should include them all.
Saw this mod suggestion and thought it would fit in well with your mod. https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=7440 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=7440)
To sum it up, a "Randomize All" button that starts you out with a random number of randomized colonists and a random amount of supplies. Literally leaving the player completely unaware of what they will get until they start the game. Could have 10 colonists all with no supplies and 3 of them injured. Or 2 really awesome colonists with lots of armor and weapons and anything between.
This could add even more replayability to the game I think.
I love this mod! It takes the most tedious aspect of starting a new game away and replaces it with pure awesomeness! Especially the save features!
I just wish there was a more controllable way of generating maps, so you could specify the factions and influence the the terrain and be able to regenerate quickly to find a map you like. I guess I should put that in suggestions, but your mods do seem to have a tendency for tedium destruction, and I was already typing here, so you know.. Anyway, thanks for this!
I'm having an issue getting this to work,
> i've downloaded and unzipped into /Mods folder
> loaded rimworld, created new world and colony though not seeing prepare button.
> exited and loaded rimworld, un clicked and re clicked mods ingame, exited rimworld
> loaded rimworld, mod still clicked, started new world and colony. still no button.
what have i missed?
Quote from: Feirfec on November 17, 2014, 11:36:47 PM
I'm having an issue getting this to work,
> i've downloaded and unzipped into /Mods folder
> loaded rimworld, created new world and colony though not seeing prepare button.
> exited and loaded rimworld, un clicked and re clicked mods ingame, exited rimworld
> loaded rimworld, mod still clicked, started new world and colony. still no button.
what have i missed?
Load Mod -> Create New Colony -> Choose Storyteller -> Choose location on World Map -> Next -> At the colonist setup page, look at the bottom middle of the screen for the Prepare Carefully button.
Quote from: Feirfec on November 17, 2014, 11:36:47 PM
I'm having an issue getting this to work,
> i've downloaded and unzipped into /Mods folder
> loaded rimworld, created new world and colony though not seeing prepare button.
> exited and loaded rimworld, un clicked and re clicked mods ingame, exited rimworld
> loaded rimworld, mod still clicked, started new world and colony. still no button.
what have i missed?
Double-check two things. Make sure that when you extracted the zip, that you didn't end up with two nested mod folders instead of one. In other words, you want Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully, not Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully/EdBPrepareCarefully. This is the most common cause of this problem. Also make sure that you don't rename the mod folder. It will not work if you rename it.
I made a colonist with 20 skill in everything yet ingame he has 17 on everything. Is this a feature?
Quote from: thisischrys on November 18, 2014, 11:53:42 AM
I made a colonist with 20 skill in everything yet ingame he has 17 on everything. Is this a feature?
It is probably skill decay. The skills don't stay as good as they start unless used frequently. How long after you started did you notice the difference?
Quote from: Matthiasagreen on November 18, 2014, 01:03:09 PM
Quote from: thisischrys on November 18, 2014, 11:53:42 AM
I made a colonist with 20 skill in everything yet ingame he has 17 on everything. Is this a feature?
It is probably skill decay. The skills don't stay as good as they start unless used frequently. How long after you started did you notice the difference?
Yes. Very likely that it's skill decay which will start immediately when the games starts.
I never psoted here to tell you how much I love this mod! I can no logner iamgine playing RIM without it! I also love that it seamlessly works with my custom bionics since you added that option! You're an amazing modder, and have made such incredible improvments to this game. I seriously hope to see your mods become part of the vanilla game in future! Thank you!
I'd like another option on this. Per Colonist Points. So you can disable "Use Points" (Renamed to Global Points), and enable "Per Colonist Points". This'd let you set up colonists and such in a fair even way, rather than one colonist having 3000 points and 2 others having 500.
The most I've seen in a randomly generated colonist is 1295 points so far, Most average 1000, some go as low as 800. So, I'd say lock the points at 1300? Showing both overall points used, and then below that "Colonist: 1295 points". Another thing, I think it'd be good if you could make the points colorized for colonists. Maybe even add a small text legend at the bottom. 900 and less, green. 901 - 1100 yellow, 1101+ red.
Green = a normal colonist, someone not too skilled, and would make for good game play.
Yellow = a skilled colonist, someone who would make gameplay easier than normal.
Red = Very skilled colonist, someone who would unbalance the game play.
Bolded Red = Anything over 1300, the normal limit. Extremely skilled, would most definitely unbalance game play.
From what I can see, is you use 7000 points total. So 3 colonists at 1300 points, would leave 3100 points for supplies, and normal default supplies takes 3690 points. Hmm. So I guess the person would have to not max out their colonists if they want normal supplies or more. :P So really, 3 yellow colonists would balance out the points almost perfectly. That's at the max end of the yellow. I just say allow up to 1300 because on occasion, rare occasion, one colonist comes up that takes 1295 (highest I've seen).
Also might be nice if you had one more point system for the supplies part, set at 3700 points. If you checkbox all of these, it puts the colonist points and then the supplies points, with a large underline under that and below that line, the total points used / points remaining.
I've prepared two screenshots so far,
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30270697/tempimages/prepcarepoints.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30270697/tempimages/prepcarepoints2.png
Neither takes into account the recent idea of supply points. :P Only the checkbox part. It's just a rough draft. I can't draw a straight line if my life depended on it. :P
What do you think? Allow going over would let you start the game if you have gone over any of your limits. If it is unchecked, you can't start the game till you go back under the limit on whichever things you've gone over on.
@Vas: that's a good point system you have imagined here!
I have 2 small remarks:
- Change the colors: games usually use green for easy and blossom red for hard mode
- Sometimes it is fun to have "deep-space M&Co. miners" or "veteran commandos" dropped on the planet to implant a mining colony/outpost with only survival packs/medicine and a good gun, so this leads to a high colonists points count/low equipment points count
@Edb: would you consider adding a "research screen" wich allows you to spend some points to unlock researches (they are either marked as finished at startup or you set their research time to 1 in the database)?
Quote from: Vas on November 19, 2014, 11:09:58 PMLots of text
Why would the mod creator add a bunch of limits like that? This mod is all about taking away limits. If you want to play in this way, you can, you have that ability. I don't want it imposed on me.
I like that I can start off with a single colonist that's very skilled, trying to make it all on his own. Or start off with several useless guys. To my surprise, 4 unskilled colonists are better than 1 lvl20 one.
Minus, there are technically already limits. And no, this mod isn't about removing limits, it's about letting you customize your startup.
My suggestions are basically all optional stuff that can help you create colonists that remain balanced within gameplay even up to their 'maximum' of 1300 points. I proposed these limits to help in character creation, so you don't wonder if you added too much or something and thought you didn't because the points system still says you have 500 left over, when really your other two are 800 pointers and you made your main one a 2500 pointer.
There is even an option, in my suggestions, that turns on or off a forced point system, which will stop you from playing the game if one of your stats has gone over the point limits.
Now that I think about it, you could go one step further, and add a 3rd click option to the green/red checkmark/X. A yellow circle with yellow checkmark inside that indicates the option is turned on, but will not be forced when you click start. Green checkmark would error if you try to start when over your limit in that specified field. Still would need one that takes all into account as well, for a total of 7000 points, otherwise, each field would only count for it's self, so you could have 20 colonists so long as each one didn't go over 1300 points if you had checkmarked only the colonist point thing.
Anyhow, bedtime.
Quote from: EdB on November 13, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: Kelian on November 13, 2014, 07:59:46 PM
Can we get an installation guide? I just got rimworld two weeks ago, this is my first mod. How do I enable this?
Take a look at this thread:
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.0
Thank you very much!
Great mod !
Exactly what I was looking for ;)
The wiki is not up to date regarding Backstories.
As you pull list of childhood/adulthood stories to customize colonist, I believe you have access to all the information related to it.
Would it be possible to get it to:
- work on a colonist/team planner tool ?
- maybe update the wiki ?
Thanks.
Once again, great mod !
FYI, I've removed the mod attachment from the original post due to a forum issue that was resulting in a 404 error when trying to download. Looks like there's something wrong with the forums that is preventing a new upload, so for the time-being, you'll need to use the dropbox link to download.
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=7549.msg76056#msg76056
Quote from: Vas on November 19, 2014, 11:09:58 PM
I'd like another option on this. Per Colonist Points. So you can disable "Use Points" (Renamed to Global Points), and enable "Per Colonist Points"...
I appreciate the extensive write-up. It's an interesting suggestion. It's possible that I might add some additional information so that you can see the breakdown of where points are spent--i.e. how much on each colonist and how much on equipment. Hopefully, this would allow you to use the mod the way that you want to. I'm not sure that I would add the options to have hard limits. I worry about the additional UI that would go with this--lots of checkboxes, no great way to explain what each one does, etc.
Quote from: mastergub on November 22, 2014, 04:22:26 AM
...The wiki is not up to date regarding Backstories...
Would it be possible to get it...
I included an attachment in an earlier post that has an XML file with all of the backstories in it:
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6261.msg74618#msg74618
Unfortunately, the forums are having issues with attachments right now, so trying to download it causes an error. Hopefully that will be fixed soon, but I think that file has all of the information that you would need.
Quote from: EdB on November 22, 2014, 12:20:24 PMI'm not sure that I would add the options to have hard limits. I worry about the additional UI that would go with this--lots of checkboxes, no great way to explain what each one does, etc.
Hovering tooltips? :P Help button with popup UI screen? Kinda like the info button does in the mod load order mod. :P
Quote from: EdB on November 22, 2014, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: mastergub on November 22, 2014, 04:22:26 AM
...The wiki is not up to date regarding Backstories...
Would it be possible to get it...
I included an attachment in an earlier post that has an XML file with all of the backstories in it:
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6261.msg74618#msg74618
Unfortunately, the forums are having issues with attachments right now, so trying to download it causes an error. Hopefully that will be fixed soon, but I think that file has all of the information that you would need.
Great ! Got it !
Will work on that, thanks.
Quote from: Vas on November 10, 2014, 01:47:08 PM...I'd like to have a spreadsheet with the descriptions and effects of each trait and childhood and stuff.
I've posted the backstory lists and an excel spreadsheet which can import the xml to a usable format here (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=7572.msg76416#msg76416).
I didn't put the long descriptions in, but if you still want that it would be simple to add, just let me know.
I notice some duplicate rows, such as "Assassin", "Bounty hunter", "Mercenary", "Space marine" & "Test subject".
And "Abondoned child" a childhood backstory as well as an adulthood backstory.
Is that normal/desired ?
Quote from: mastergub on November 23, 2014, 04:26:25 PM
I notice some duplicate rows, such as "Assassin", "Bounty hunter", "Mercenary", "Space marine" & "Test subject".
And "Abondoned child" a childhood backstory as well as an adulthood backstory.
Is that normal/desired ?
Yes, this is normal. You'll notice that the duplicates have different descriptions and skills. Often the childhood and adulthood backstories are meant to be tied to a specific unique character--mixing and matching them via the mod isn't really how they're meant to be combined.
I can not properly start an A8 colony until I can cheat frivolously!
Quote from: DorgoDorato on December 10, 2014, 08:49:14 PM
I can not properly start an A8 colony until I can cheat frivolously!
I concur, it is unacceptable!
Actually, I find it more unplayable without the interface one lol
I just played a bit and was like "wtf?" - I forgot how much that mod changed things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG0faW-LRZU&safe=active
DELIVER US TO TO ALPHA 8 EdB!
Quote from: Montag on December 11, 2014, 12:11:02 AM
DELIVER US TO TO ALPHA 8 EdB!
You gotta give him a few days at least. This isn't just a simple XML mod like one of mine or something. And he might have a real life possibly too.
i hope prepare carefully mod becomes part of vanilla someday. it's practically the first mod i always look for..
other mods, i just test it out once or twice in different playthroughs and then turn them off. but
after i tested this mod out, every new game i play in rimworld always have prep carefully mod turned on. ;D
Props for figuring out how to mod the CharPage! It was something that had completely baffled me into giving up on the Colonist Creation Mod after Tynan removed access to the 'colonistgen' class in the BaseMapGenerators.xml... and I must admit, you did a way better job than I ever did XD This deserves to be integrated into the game!
Quote from: EdB on September 21, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
It turns out that a colonist's body type is directly tied to the colonist's adult backstory. You cannot change them independently--this is a limitation of the game for which I could not find an acceptable workaround. Change your colonist's backstory to change their body type.
There was a workaround I had found for CCM... don't know if you would consider it 'acceptable', but here's how I was pulling it off: limit the available backstories to only what matches the body type, and when the body type is changed you just reload the list. The downside is that it kinda forces the player to prioritize setting the body type first before changing the backstory, since the backstory has to change every time the body type does. Wasn't too much backlash or confusion from it, though, if I remember correctly :)
Whenever I click the "Prepare Carefully" button it just boots me out to the main menu.
Quote from: ManBehindAMask on December 11, 2014, 08:03:47 PM
Whenever I click the "Prepare Carefully" button it just boots me out to the main menu.
It hasnt been updated for version 8 yet.
Any idea on when it may be updated for Alpha 8?
I need my crew back ;(
Alpha 8 only came out yesterday guys. Chill out already. He'll get it updated when his schedule permits him to work on it I'm sure. Until then, play vanilla and get a feel for what all has changed.
Yeah I'm with Igabod on this, we've been testing A8 for nearly a month now and it's totally a game-changer as far as vanilla is concerned... While I'm looking forward to this being updated, I can safely say that the starting equipment/skillsets you're going to value are only going to become apparent when you get some experience of the biomes and the temperature system :)
Alpha 8 is a huge update and this is a complicated mod. Please be patient :)
this mod like the most importen mod for me because it remind me in the good old days when i played dwarf fortress :)
Quote from: tiba666 on December 12, 2014, 08:10:51 AM
This mod is like the most important mod for me because it reminds me of the good old days when i played Dwarf Fortress :)
Yeah same, I'm so far out of my element playing without it in A8
A quick update: unfortunately, it was sort of bad timing with the alpha 8 release for me. I didn't have time to look at it at all until tonight. I took a first pass on upgrading the mod just to figure out how much effort it's going to take. The prepare carefully mod is not as bad as the interface mod. I have a working build, but I need to fix melee weapons so that you have the option of choosing their material, and it looks like the "market values" that I'm using to compute the points have changed quite a bit, so I'm going to need some time to balance that out and choose a new point limit. I do expect to have a new release sometime this weekend.
Apologies for the delay and thanks for the patience.
Quote from: EdB on December 13, 2014, 02:35:06 AM
A quick update: unfortunately, it was sort of bad timing with the alpha 8 release for me. I didn't have time to look at it at all until tonight. I took a first pass on upgrading the mod just to figure out how much effort it's going to take. The prepare carefully mod is not as bad as the interface mod. I have a working build, but I need to fix melee weapons so that you have the option of choosing their material, and it looks like the "market values" that I'm using to compute the points have changed quite a bit, so I'm going to need some time to balance that out and choose a new point limit. I do expect to have a new release sometime this weekend.
Apologies for the delay and thanks for the patience.
There's no need to apologise. The Alpha 8 update will be done when it's done :)
yay!
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EdB, you're awesome! Thank you!
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EdB- awesome to hear that you'll be working on a new version. Keep up the good job- my tundra canniballistic psychopaths are waiting patiently :)
Quote from: EdB on December 13, 2014, 02:35:06 AM
Apologies for the delay and thanks for the patience.
You absolutely don't have to !!
Thx for the mod and the work you've done and you're going to do for the community :)
The first alpha 8 release is available. Two things to keep in mind:
- Unfortunately, presets saved in Alpha 7 do not fully load in Alpha 8. It can't be helped. They will partially load, and you'll see a list of warnings explaining what failed if you open the console. You're definitely going to lose the following, but there may be more:
- What was called "metal" in Alpha 7 is now called "steel," so that will be lost.
- All backstory identifiers changed in Alpha 8, so backstories will be lost.
- Bionic arms are installed on the shoulder now, which causes a recipe mismatch. Those will be lost.
- I changed up the way that points are calculated. They are still based on the market value of items and colonists, but I'm making more adjustments to account for what feels to me like unbalanced values in the vanilla game. For example, that plasteel knife that you start with has a market value of over 1,150 silver. That's the same value as almost 20 pistols (at 60 silver each). That just seems wrong to me. I don't think that I necessarily got the balancing right with this release, but it's a start. I'll likely tweak it in subsequent releases.
Still working on the interface mod. If you're waiting for that, it probably will not be ready until sometime tomorrow.
One thing I wanted in this, not sure if it's possible or too hard or what.
When you click on the actual name of the trait window you can get the whole list of traits come up - awesome.
Can we get that same function for the clothing ?
Thank you! :)
Quote from: EdB on December 13, 2014, 06:00:11 PM
The first alpha 8 release is available. Two things to keep in mind:
- Unfortunately, presets saved in Alpha 7 do not fully load in Alpha 8. It can't be helped. They will partially load, and you'll see a list of warnings explaining what failed if you open the console. You're definitely going to lose the following, but there may be more:
- What was called "metal" in Alpha 7 is now called "steel," so that will be lost.
- All backstory identifiers changed in Alpha 8, so backstories will be lost.
- Bionic arms are installed on the shoulder now, which causes a recipe mismatch. Those will be lost.
- I changed up the way that points are calculated. They are still based on the market value of items and colonists, but I'm making more adjustments to account for what feels to me like unbalanced values in the vanilla game. For example, that plasteel knife that you start with has a market value of over 1,150 silver. That's the same value as almost 20 pistols (at 60 silver each). That just seems wrong to me. I don't think that I necessarily got the balancing right with this release, but it's a start. I'll likely tweak it in subsequent releases.
Still working on the interface mod. If you're waiting for that, it probably will not be ready until sometime tomorrow.
Thank you so much for the update, EdB!
Found a bug in 8, colonists are not showing up in overview... out of my 3 only 1 does and they only have a checkbox under firefighting :)
I think it'd be handy to have a 'save colonist' button in game for this =)
Finally,
EdBPC for alpha 8 ...
TIME TO SPAWN IN 500 POWER ARMOR PIRATES,AGAIN,BUT WITH PARKAS,YEE!
So my big request for the next major patch with this mod, is a scenario button that lets us choose from a bunch of scenarios that impacts our starting group, their resources, biome, etc.
Is it a big task, sure.... but is it one that RimWorld as a whole would enjoy, oh without a doubt.
Quote from: bvierra on December 14, 2014, 01:04:20 AM
Found a bug in 8, colonists are not showing up in overview... out of my 3 only 1 does and they only have a checkbox under firefighting :)
I'm getting this as well, I disabled Edb and it was still the same, I do have other mods installed though, do you?
Quote from: bvierra on December 14, 2014, 01:04:20 AM
Found a bug in 8, colonists are not showing up in overview... out of my 3 only 1 does and they only have a checkbox under firefighting :)
Once you start the game, the prepare carefully mod usually is out of the picture. It's possible though that it's somehow creating bad colonists that break overview panel. If someone who's experiencing that wants to send me a save game file in a private message, it might help in tracking down the problem.
I had the "overview" issue. I think un-ticking Cybernetic Storm is what fixed it for me. Had a huge error message related to CB when starting a new game with my current mod list so i disabled it and now my overview problem is gone as well. Awesome mod btw! :D
There's one thing i don't quite get about the backstory section in this mod: Sometimes when I choose a backstory, a yellow ! pops up telling me something may not match. For example, if i choose Cave Child for childhood and Space Technician for Adult, the ! comes up for Space Technician.
How do i determine what is wrong and correct it, or is this more of a warning that I can safely ignore?
you can safely ignore that warning. It's just to let you know that the backstory is one created by a player who bought into that tier of the game. It usually will have pronouns like She and He that can't be changed based upon the sex of your colonist. So you will have a male colonist with a backstory that says She in it a lot or something like that. No big bug or anything.
Quote from: Ramsis on December 15, 2014, 11:07:11 AM
So my big request for the next major patch with this mod, is a scenario button that lets us choose from a bunch of scenarios that impacts our starting group, their resources, biome, etc.
Is it a big task, sure.... but is it one that RimWorld as a whole would enjoy, oh without a doubt.
Definitely YES. Will save me 30 minutes by making specific members in a colony. Also, how do we put bionics on a person without starting the game (now let's make an invicible soldier)
Quote from: Igabod on December 16, 2014, 07:19:48 PM
you can safely ignore that warning. It's just to let you know that the backstory is one created by a player who bought into that tier of the game. It usually will have pronouns like She and He that can't be changed based upon the sex of your colonist. So you will have a male colonist with a backstory that says She in it a lot or something like that. No big bug or anything.
Quote from: Mozleron on December 16, 2014, 06:54:31 PM
How do i determine what is wrong and correct it, or is this more of a warning that I can safely ignore?
Right, you can safely ignore this. I might rewrite the warning to make it a little more clear. Like Igabod says, the problem is that some of the back-stories are intended to match up with a specific, unique character. Those stories are sometimes written with a specific name and gender hard-coded into them. I added the warning so that you wouldn't think it was a bug in the mod that the names and genders in those descriptions don't match the name and gender that you choose for your colonist. There's no good way for me to change the descriptions to match.
Quote from: Ramsis on December 15, 2014, 11:07:11 AM
So my big request for the next major patch with this mod, is a scenario button that lets us choose from a bunch of scenarios that impacts our starting group, their resources, biome, etc.
Is it a big task, sure.... but is it one that RimWorld as a whole would enjoy, oh without a doubt.
I don't have any plans to do this. I agree, it sounds like a really interesting feature, but you're right--it's a really big feature and too much for me to sign up for.
Quote from: Iwillbenicetou on December 16, 2014, 07:45:38 PM
...Also, how do we put bionics on a person without starting the game (now let's make an invicible soldier)
You can do this now. Click the apparel layer category button above the colonist portrait and select "Body Parts." You can attach whatever bionics that you want to from there.
I am not sure if this is just a problem on my end but whenever I delete and add new colonists they spawn in naked. Does your point system account for this?
Just wanted to say thank you for this mod. Instead of clicking randomize over and over and over and... (You get the picture) Now I can set my people up right. It's well balanced also. Good job!
Quote from: Niknud on December 17, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
I am not sure if this is just a problem on my end but whenever I delete and add new colonists they spawn in naked. Does your point system account for this?
The point system does try to take this into account. In Alpha 8, whether or not colonists are wearing clothes seems to be partially tied to how cold the starting biome is. You'll notice that sometimes you'll have as many as 1500 points available to spend and sometimes you'll have less than 500 points available--sometimes you'll even start with negative points. This is largely due to the market value of clothing and variations that you get with what the starting colonists are wearing.
It was much harder to balance the point system with Alpha 8 because of this--and because clothing and crafted goods are generally much more expensive than uncrafted goods (especially ranged weapons). I'm not sure that it feels as balanced as it felt in Alpha 7. I consider what's there now as a first pass that I may adjust later. Ultimately, I feel like some of that balancing needs to happen in the vanilla game, so I might just wait to see what happens with Alpha 9.
Edb thanks for the mods you've put here. GReat work! It really adds to the game.
I'd like to report an incompatibility I found:
If you mind checking this post, https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=7869.msg82602#msg82602 so that I don't spam the same thing. Thanks! I wasn't sure where to report this, so it will be for both.
That's odd. :o I run both mods fine together. Are you sure it's not a load order problem?
Edit: Never mind me. I just read your other post again and i can't say for sure i don't have that problem, even if i haven't encountered it yet.
I put edb's at top. Here, if you or anyone has advice,
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Quote from: john pretzel on December 18, 2014, 12:21:27 PM
I'd like to report an incompatibility I found:
If you mind checking this post, https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=7869.msg82602#msg82602 so that I don't spam the same thing. Thanks! I wasn't sure where to report this, so it will be for both.
Looks like Carnov put out a new release that fixes the Prepare Carefully problem (which I think was a missing color generator definition). I should still probably try to handle that problem more gracefully in case it happens in the future.
The switched order of the character tab buttons is an issue in my Interface mod. I change the order of those buttons, but I think I might only change it for human characters. The Jaffa is defined as a separate race in that mod--I have to take a look at my code to remind myself what I'm doing, but I think that's why. I'll take a look at it.
I've released a new version, 1.5.1 that includes the following:
- Rebalanced point calculations. It feels a little better to me now, but let me know what you think.
- Hover over the point total number to see a simple breakdown of the point costs by category.
- Right-click on an item in the equipment and resources screen to open the info dialog for it.
- Tweaked the way that your color selections are remembered as you browse through apparel and accompanying material selections.
- BUGFIX: Added non-cloth materials back to the character customization options.
- BUGFIX: Apparel without a color generator no longer crashes the character customization screen.
Did something dumb in the 1.5.1 release that made the math add up all wrong. Fixed it in a new 1.5.2 release.
Quote from: Ramsis on December 15, 2014, 11:07:11 AM
So my big request for the next major patch with this mod, is a scenario button that lets us choose from a bunch of scenarios that impacts our starting group, their resources, biome, etc.
Just an FYI that even though I initially said that I would not be doing this, I have actually started working on this idea. I expect to have an initial version to put out there for some feedback sometime around the new year. I really like how it's turning out!
Great mod and essential in my opinion. Been using for past builds and A8. Thank you for providing us with this and your other mods which I also consider an essential, EDB!
A suggestion though, not really major just a minor one. You think you could somehow link in a way for us to choose our colonists Birthdays ?
Would be a nice little addition and just add more customization.
(Everytime I start a new game, I always just manually edit the file and change them all haha)
Quote from: Andouce on December 22, 2014, 06:02:06 PM
A suggestion though, not really major just a minor one. You think you could somehow link in a way for us to choose our colonists Birthdays ?
A couple of people have asked for this. It's something that I will look at. It's a little unusual to me as a customization option just because months in the game don't have the same number of days as they do in the real world, so you wouldn't necessarily be able to assign your own birthday to a colonist for example, but it seems like a reasonable addition. I just need to figure out where to put it in the user interface.
Hello, love the mod. Had a quick question. In the vanilla game colonists always have one or two traits and I noticed with the mod I can give my colonist 3 traits. Is the game able to handle this, like I don't know how to say this but is it safe to give my colonists 3 traits and not have any issues?
What is the 3rd trait slot for in the vanilla? (if anything)
Quote from: kenobi87 on December 23, 2014, 03:09:08 AM
Hello, love the mod. Had a quick question. In the vanilla game colonists always have one or two traits and I noticed with the mod I can give my colonist 3 traits. Is the game able to handle this, like I don't know how to say this but is it safe to give my colonists 3 traits and not have any issues?
What is the 3rd trait slot for in the vanilla? (if anything)
In theory, you could edit the save file and give a colonists as many traits as you want (as long as they don't conflict with each other) and have no problems. I've actually had a colonist with 5 traits in alpha 7 as a result of several mods including this one. There is nothing to worry about.
Quote from: EdB on December 22, 2014, 08:17:13 PM
A couple of people have asked for this. It's something that I will look at. It's a little unusual to me as a customization option just because months in the game don't have the same number of days as they do in the real world, so you wouldn't necessarily be able to assign your own birthday to a colonist for example, but it seems like a reasonable addition. I just need to figure out where to put it in the user interface.
I agree with you on the game days but just something extra :P Thanks for considering it
why does it cost points to turn off old injuries?
Quote from: Dragoon on December 23, 2014, 07:12:24 AM
why does it cost points to turn off old injuries?
For me, it definitely feels like you're gaining an advantage by removing the risk of old injuries. I can't remember what I made the point cost, but it feels worth some points to guarantee that your colonist is not going to get any of those penalties.
Quote from: kenobi87 on December 23, 2014, 03:09:08 AM
What is the 3rd trait slot for in the vanilla? (if anything)
Like Igabod says, the game should be able to handle extra traits with no issue. I added the extra one just to give another customization option. I probably would have added a fourth but didn't quite have enough space for it.
Edb, new thing to report: similar to what happened to the jaffa mod, the star wars faction also has some problem with coloring while browsing the wares. The menu interface vanishes. :)
Take care!
Quote from: john pretzel on December 23, 2014, 01:15:15 PM
Edb, new thing to report: similar to what happened to the jaffa mod, the star wars faction also has some problem with coloring while browsing the wares. The menu interface vanishes. :)
Take care!
Odd I don't have that problem. Oh and it's 50 point to turn the injuries off.
I will test this again then later, to be sure.. :)
When I right click on the menu after the colonist one (with resources and such btw that where you can see their stats :D by click clicking) I noticed it tells everything but the temperature.
Quote from: Igabod on December 23, 2014, 03:26:20 AM
In theory, you could edit the save file and give a colonists as many traits as you want (as long as they don't conflict with each other) and have no problems. I've actually had a colonist with 5 traits in alpha 7 as a result of several mods including this one. There is nothing to worry about.
So how would you go about that? I would love to toy around with that stuff if i could.
Quote from: Ded1 on December 25, 2014, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: Igabod on December 23, 2014, 03:26:20 AM
In theory, you could edit the save file and give a colonists as many traits as you want (as long as they don't conflict with each other) and have no problems. I've actually had a colonist with 5 traits in alpha 7 as a result of several mods including this one. There is nothing to worry about.
So how would you go about that? I would love to toy around with that stuff if i could.
First, open the save file location which is located at C:\Users\Igabod\AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld\Saves just replace Igabod with whatever your username is. Then open the save file you wish to edit with your favorite text editor. Search for the name of the colonist you want to edit. Then find the part in that colonists code that looks like this:
<traits>
<allTraits>
<li Class="Trait">
<def>Brawler</def>
</li>
</allTraits>
</traits>
And add or remove the traits you want there. This file also tells you what lies within the cryptopod caskets so you'll find pawn defs for other people that are laying in those things as well. Save file editing is fairly easy but you just have to know what you're looking at. Luckily it's all XML so you should be just fine in that respect since you've already got experience with modding. Though there is a save file editor tool already for Alpha 8 that apparently works (though I've never used it) and will make this process even more simple. I'd check out the Tools sub-forum of the Mods sub-forum.
Ok thats simple. I didnt know if there was some trickery in getting into the save file or not (cause some single player offline games go to massive lengths to stop it for some reason)
figured I'd provide a Link to the save editor (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=8024) that I mentioned.
I already grabbed it but thanks.
Edb, check PM i translated it to Polish, hope you will add it in update :]
Quote from: malejpl on December 28, 2014, 02:30:05 PM
Edb, check PM i translated it to Polish, hope you will add it in update :]
I will add it with the next release. Thanks for doing it!
THANKS MAN! I've been looking for this :D
How do I install this mod on Windows 8?
Quote from: Mikek1507 on January 01, 2015, 03:06:18 PM
How do I install this mod on Windows 8?
This question is answered in This Thread (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.0) in full detail.
Released a new version with following new additions:
- Customize a colonist's date of birth by right-clicking on their age.
- Resources are no longer added in fixed increments. Clicking to increase or decrease quantities will always modify the count by one. Click and drag the number to change the values more quickly. Shift-click the buttons or shift-click and drag to increase the rate further.
- Click and drag to change the age value. Shift-click the arrows to change the age by increments of ten.
- The default number of resources is now randomized to match the vanilla game.
- The cost of resources is now computed using fractional values. The total cost remains a whole number, rounded up.
- Added Polish-language translation. Thanks to malejpl for providing this.
- Full details for the release can be found at the bottom of this post.
- Lots of behind-the-scenes reworking to support the new EdB Scenarios mod.
To be honest, I would nerf (growth rate?) of SP* and buff SP.
It's way cheaper to just give them a better growth rate than giving them some SP, and to be honest; I prefer a faster growth rate. By decreasing the SP by one, you can almost give them person 2x growth rate.
Good work on this mod anyway, I love it!
*skill points
Quote from: Copeteles on January 04, 2015, 07:29:27 PM
To be honest, I would nerf (growth rate?) of SP* and buff SP.
It's way cheaper to just give them a better growth rate than giving them some SP, and to be honest; I prefer a faster growth rate. By decreasing the SP by one, you can almost give them person 2x growth rate.
You're probably right that it's something that needs tuning.
I actually don't adjust the skill point values at all from what I get from the vanilla game market value, but the vanilla game doesn't count passions at all towards that market value, so I need to add some additional points for them. It would be nice if the vanilla game factored in passions to that overall colonist value, but I'll play around with it a little to see if I can find something more balanced.
I believe I've found a bug. I'm loading a preset that I prepared with this version of your mod. I had the point system worked out to the last point and now it claims I'm 9000 points short exactly. This occurs even if I don't use a preset. Since downloading the mod, I've downloaded you're scenario mod and reinstalled the guns+ mod. Neither of which should have affected this mod. I run a ton of mods. Like 20+, however this bug just started happening and before everything worked together very well.
Edit: The mod does work well if you completely exit the game and re-enter. I went ahead and created an entire new world so I don't know if that had anything to do with it as well.
Quote from: Flubberj on January 06, 2015, 04:15:55 AM
I believe I've found a bug. I'm loading a preset that I prepared with this version of your mod. I had the point system worked out to the last point and now it claims I'm 9000 points short exactly. This occurs even if I don't use a preset. Since downloading the mod, I've downloaded you're scenario mod and reinstalled the guns+ mod. Neither of which should have affected this mod. I run a ton of mods. Like 20+, however this bug just started happening and before everything worked together very well.
Edit: The mod does work well if you completely exit the game and re-enter. I went ahead and created an entire new world so I don't know if that had anything to do with it as well.
Thanks for the bug report. It sounds like I'm not resetting something that I need to be. I will be work on a fix.
Amazing mod. The only problem i see is that traits are free. I dont know if thats because you cant add them to the point system but certain traits are obviously far better than others.
im having issues with this mod sadly, but would love to get it working.
when i load the game map up i get just a black screen, ive turned off everything but this mod and still happens, even tryed to make a new colony without using it vanilla style and still black screen, as soon as i disable the mod game works again... please help :'(
Quote from: xRAVENxCLAWx on January 13, 2015, 01:14:25 PM
im having issues with this mod sadly, but would love to get it working.
when i load the game map up i get just a black screen, ive turned off everything but this mod and still happens, even tryed to make a new colony without using it vanilla style and still black screen, as soon as i disable the mod game works again... please help :'(
I'm sorry that you're having trouble with the mod. Are you using the most recent version? I've been trying to reproduce this problem, but I've had no success.
Anyone else seeing this?
EDIT: As you're testing it out and enabling and disabling mods, be sure to quit out of the game and restart once you've just got the Prepare Carefully mod enabled. You'd think it would not make a difference, but it can--just to make sure that you're starting fresh.
Quote from: EdB on January 13, 2015, 09:25:35 PM
Quote from: xRAVENxCLAWx on January 13, 2015, 01:14:25 PM
im having issues with this mod sadly, but would love to get it working.
when i load the game map up i get just a black screen, ive turned off everything but this mod and still happens, even tryed to make a new colony without using it vanilla style and still black screen, as soon as i disable the mod game works again... please help :'(
I'm sorry that you're having trouble with the mod. Are you using the most recent version? I've been trying to reproduce this problem, but I've had no success.
Anyone else seeing this?
EDIT: As you're testing it out and enabling and disabling mods, be sure to quit out of the game and restart once you've just got the Prepare Carefully mod enabled. You'd think it would not make a difference, but it can--just to make sure that you're starting fresh.
i have to crash the game out every time as it freezes to it does start fresh lol, and im using game version, 8.671 that was the last email i got. is that not the latest?
Quote from: xRAVENxCLAWx on January 14, 2015, 08:44:25 AM
i have to crash the game out every time as it freezes to it does start fresh lol, and im using game version, 8.671 that was the last email i got. is that not the latest?
Actually, I meant the latest version of the mod, which is 1.6.2. If that's the version that you're using, you might try the previous version to see if it has the same problem: Dropbox download for 1.5.2 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/st8oxlgrpfkkhdf/EdBPrepareCarefully-1.5.2.zip)
If you want, you can send me a private message with the game's error log attached. That might point me in the right direction. That file is here: RimWorld657Win\RimWorld657Win_Data\output_log.txt
I'll keep trying to reproduce the problem.
is there anything i could do to make this great mod compatible with The Metal Age (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=9020.0)?
because everytime i try to start a colony with both activated i end up in a blackscreen aswell as when i'm creating the colony with only EdB Prepare Carfully enabled,
saving and then swap to The Metal Age mod enabled, i also tried to change the loading order via Modsconfig.xml but didn't help eighter
Quote from: Woolridge on January 14, 2015, 11:48:55 PM
is there anything i could do to make this great mod compatible with The Metal Age (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=9020.0)?
I did a new release, version 1.6.3, that should fix the problem. I replaced the Plasteel Knife that is normally included in your starting equipment with an Iron Knife if you're using this mod. Note that this will give you more available points than normal because a plasteel knife is much more valuable than an iron one.
Thanks for letting me know about the issue!
wow, that was fast O_O
well, i'll try it out and let you know if i get any further errors
edit
sorry, but i still end up in a blackscreen with the console spitting out dozens of errors,
the only difference is, that i'm now able to change the starting items, wich were a blank screen in the previous build^^
here a link to a screenshot of what i get when starting with EdB interface, Prepare Carefully and The Metal Age:
http://i.imgur.com/luOHWU8.jpg?1
(i hope that image-host is allowed here, since i don't know where else i should upload them)
Same here, I've disabled everything bar this and metal age, once I get into the game I have a blank screen, that then after moving the mouse gives very bright colors.
Everything works fine for me when i use my mod with prepare carefully.
I re-uploaded my mod as version 0.0.3, which is exactly the mod i use.
So if you still have trouble with EDB's mod when using 0.0.3 then i really have no idea what could be causing it.
And if you haven't done so already, make sure you create a new world when starting a game.
Quote from: Ironvos on January 15, 2015, 07:23:42 AM
And if you haven't done so already, make sure you create a new world when starting a game.
I just come back to report that I got it going, the problem was from trying to load a pre-set group of settlers from the version prior, made a new group and it's working fine.
Quote from: Ironvos on January 15, 2015, 07:23:42 AM
And if you haven't done so already, make sure you create a new world when starting a game.
Quote from: Olek on January 15, 2015, 07:45:08 AM
I just come back to report that I got it going, the problem was from trying to load a pre-set group of settlers from the version prior, made a new group and it's working fine.
really, ok, then i'll toss my already saved group and create a new world aswell with the new version of the metal age
edit
yeah, finally everything works just fine now, i don't know if it's the new group, the new world or both of it, but it works, thanks a lot guys =)
I seem to be getting some weird bug that when pirates attack any that have Gun+ weapons instead have a weird blood looking effect in their hands instead of guns. When they fire, they turn into miniguns only with the speed, range and damage of whatever gun they're using (Carbine Minigun and 357 Minigun seem to be the most annoying). Haven't really changed anything since grabbing Guns+ originally except installing this mod. Thanks in advance for any help.
This mod is wonderful! The only little issue I found is that if you change the skin color of a colonist and then change the head type right afterwards, it gets stuck at the next face you select, or it won't update anymore, until you randomize the appearance once. I know it's easy to bypass this, just wanted to let you all know.
EDIT:
By "changing color" I mean moving the rgb sliders. There is no issue when using the skin color presets.
Quote from: RookE5 on January 22, 2015, 06:06:49 PM
This mod is wonderful! The only little issue I found is that if you change the skin color of a colonist and then change the head type right afterwards, it gets stuck at the next face you select, or it won't update anymore, until you randomize the appearance once. I know it's easy to bypass this, just wanted to let you all know.
EDIT:
By "changing color" I mean moving the rgb sliders. There is no issue when using the skin color presets.
Thanks for pointing this out. It looks like I accidentally added the color sliders to the head type. Only the presets should be available because the game does not support arbitrary skin colors. The head type is getting stuck because of this. I will remove the sliders (I think I put them in to test something and then just forgot to take them back out).
I am sorry to hear that you have to take these sliders out. May I suggest changing at least one of the presets to a more healthy looking tone, so all skin colors will be covered? Either the first or second one wood be best as they almost look equal. A good rgb combination, in my opinion, would be something around r 245; g 215; b 194, but of course this is up to you. Again awesome work! Thanks for this modification!
Quote from: RookE5 on January 23, 2015, 08:52:51 AM
May I suggest changing at least one of the presets to a more healthy looking tone, so all skin colors will be covered?
Unfortunately, this is a limitation in the game related to the way that it stores the graphics for heads. I have not found a way to add new colors.
EdB im currently working on a big project could you and your Glorious C++ skills aid me in a few things
such as a code that could replace one item with another. Example being if i had tribal furniture and upgraded to medieval furniture it would remove tribal from the architect.
post your question i the mod help forum. im sure someone can help you there.
I noticed the prices are very expensive in the loading zone and from the traders they are usually lower (sometimes higher)
Quote from: Dragoon on January 23, 2015, 02:09:10 PM
I noticed the prices are very expensive in the loading zone and from the traders they are usually lower (sometimes higher)
There will always be a question of how to best balance the points. I'd like to use the market value prices for all items--which is the starting point for the prices you see with traders--but I find it to be unbalanced in the context of selecting your starting equipment. The best example is that the plasteel knife that you start off with has a market value of about 1150 silver, while a pistol is worth 60 silver. That means you can trade in your one knife for almost 20 pistols, which just doesn't make sense.
Balancing is difficult, and I'm sure I haven't gotten it quite right, but I decided to make things that are made from stuff cheaper than their market value and ranged weapons more expensive.
Quote from: EdB on January 23, 2015, 09:54:50 PM
Quote from: Dragoon on January 23, 2015, 02:09:10 PM
I noticed the prices are very expensive in the loading zone and from the traders they are usually lower (sometimes higher)
There will always be a question of how to best balance the points. I'd like to use the market value prices for all items--which is the starting point for the prices you see with traders--but I find it to be unbalanced in the context of selecting your starting equipment. The best example is that the plasteel knife that you start off with has a market value of about 1150 silver, while a pistol is worth 60 silver. That means you can trade in your one knife for almost 20 pistols, which just doesn't make sense.
Balancing is difficult, and I'm sure I haven't gotten it quite right, but I decided to make things that are made from stuff cheaper than their market value and ranged weapons more expensive.
Oh well better to be a bit to expensive, then to hear 20-30 people whine because raiders spawn in with rocket launchers :(.
Why do some of the backgrounds not align with my selected genders/names? Is this an unavoidable issue?
Quote from: Scienta on January 26, 2015, 05:20:05 AM
Why do some of the backgrounds not align with my selected genders/names? Is this an unavoidable issue?
Yes (I think). It's set to be random I think only you can change it but I have noticed that ones with name specific back grounds usually don't wig out so......Besides a lot of it's sorta broken in that department (Ex: mercenary recruit does not = mercenary the one with no specific name) I think it has to do with the in game code.
Quote from: Scienta on January 26, 2015, 05:20:05 AM
Why do some of the backgrounds not align with my selected genders/names? Is this an unavoidable issue?
Keep in mind that backstories were offered as a Kickstarter reward, so while most of them are written in a way that the names and pronouns can be substituted in, some of them are written with specific names and pronouns already in there.
The mod could rewrite the backstory text to make them all name/gender-neutral, so it's not entirely unavoidable. That would take a lot of work to maintain between alpha releases though, so it's probably not something that I will do.
just one simple request here: would love the mod to also keep the big vanilla "randomize" (all) button in there.
sometimes i just wanna roll that dice and see what comes up, but in the case of this mod i can't do that once i've entered prep mode.
Quote from: shhfiftyfive on January 26, 2015, 11:50:34 AM
just one simple request here: would love the mod to also keep the big vanilla "randomize" (all) button in there.
sometimes i just wanna roll that dice and see what comes up, but in the case of this mod i can't do that once i've entered prep mode.
That would be great, yeah ^^
Quote from: shhfiftyfive on January 26, 2015, 11:50:34 AM
just one simple request here: would love the mod to also keep the big vanilla "randomize" (all) button in there.
sometimes i just wanna roll that dice and see what comes up, but in the case of this mod i can't do that once i've entered prep mode.
I agree that this really should be there. I'll plan on finding a place for it when I do the next update--probably when alpha 9 comes out.
Quote from: EdB on January 26, 2015, 11:03:37 PM
Quote from: shhfiftyfive on January 26, 2015, 11:50:34 AM
just one simple request here: would love the mod to also keep the big vanilla "randomize" (all) button in there.
sometimes i just wanna roll that dice and see what comes up, but in the case of this mod i can't do that once i've entered prep mode.
I agree that this really should be there. I'll plan on finding a place for it when I do the next update--probably when alpha 9 comes out.
- would it be possible to also add a "sort by" function to the list of weapons/armor/etc. for the screen that comes up after you hit "next" but before you load the new colony (when you are selecting how many materials you want to bring).
it is sorted alphabetically by default, but i'd be interested if we could also sort by "cost". if not possible, no big deal. would be a quality of life addition.
- another request would be, i noticed if i have Misc+MAI installed, it adds an "android" trait to prepare carefully. could it be possible you add that trait to your mod by default? so maybe i wouldn't have to use MAI just for that purpose :p
Wow I just found this mod all be it I just got Rimworld back at Christmas. Thank you for this mod. just being able to save a character and use them latter is worth put this mod in as it is. All the other stuff it dose like point base characters and setting your drop in gear is just a bones added on. 8) Nice work.
Quote from: shhfiftyfive on February 04, 2015, 03:00:48 PM
- would it be possible to also add a "sort by" function to the list of weapons/armor/etc. for the screen that comes up after you hit "next" but before you load the new colony (when you are selecting how many materials you want to bring).
it is sorted alphabetically by default, but i'd be interested if we could also sort by "cost". if not possible, no big deal. would be a quality of life addition.
I agree that this is a good idea. I will probably include this option in the next release.
Quote from: shhfiftyfive on February 04, 2015, 03:00:48 PM
- another request would be, i noticed if i have Misc+MAI installed, it adds an "android" trait to prepare carefully. could it be possible you add that trait to your mod by default? so maybe i wouldn't have to use MAI just for that purpose :p
This I probably won't include. It's a bit outside of the scope of what the mod is trying to accomplish.
I really enjoy this mod - unfortunately it seems to break quite a few things. This is the only mod I have installed.
- People from other factions almost always wear 2-3 hats and never pants... clothing seems to stack indefinitely.
- Successful healing is always 0% with a carefully prepared surgeon, even at skill level 12.
- Overview screen broke after a while, see screenshot. I have six colonists, and Vinny can do a lot more than firefighting.
(http://i.gyazo.com/f3efacd6b69065c60665cab95b6414f7.png)
Unfortunately disabling the mod doesn't fix the overview screen issue, I may need to start another colony.
Quote from: Rhisereld on February 07, 2015, 10:14:27 PM
- People from other factions almost always wear 2-3 hats and never pants... clothing seems to stack indefinitely.
Generally speaking, after the game starts the Prepare Carefully mod really is not in the picture anymore. It's difficult for me to think of how it could be causing this issue. Are you saying that whenever characters from other factions appear on the map to visit or raid the colony, they are wearing more than one hat? That's odd.
Quote from: Rhisereld on February 07, 2015, 10:14:27 PM
- Successful healing is always 0% with a carefully prepared surgeon, even at skill level 12.
- Overview screen broke after a while, see screenshot. I have six colonists, and Vinny can do a lot more than firefighting.
This sounds like the mod might have created a bad character that is breaking things for you. Sorry about that. If I remember correctly I fixed a similar type of bug several versions ago, but nobody else has reported it since then. Any additional detail about that particular character would be helpful. It seems like something is broken with their doctoring skill. Feel free to send me the savegame file if you'd like me to take a closer look--it's possible that it's fixable so that you don't have to start a new colony.
it's worth noting in the OP: the presets you create with this mod will need to be deleted and remade manually each time you remove another mod that was present at the time of the preset save.
if you happen to disable any mod in your mod load order that was present when you saved a prepare carefully preset. that will break your prepare carefully presets.
the symptoms of a broken preset are:
- many materials in the material stage of prepare carefully will not have icons. (signs of a previously installed mod being removed)
- the "points budget" calculations will be way off and give you a bigger than normal budget.
not sure if adding a new mod will create same issue, but removing a mod will definitely break your presets.
Quote from: shhfiftyfive on February 09, 2015, 12:06:17 PM
it's worth noting in the OP: the presets you create with this mod will need to be deleted and remade manually each time you remove another mod that was present at the time of the preset save.
if you happen to disable any mod in your mod load order that was present when you saved a prepare carefully preset. that will break your prepare carefully presets.
the symptoms of a broken preset are:
- many materials in the material stage of prepare carefully will not have icons. (signs of a previously installed mod being removed)
- the "points budget" calculations will be way off and give you a bigger than normal budget.
not sure if adding a new mod will create same issue, but removing a mod will definitely break your presets.
Thanks for the bug report. I will fix this to make the behavior more consistent, but note that this only happens if you don't quit the game in between disabling the mods. If you quit and restart, you should not see this weirdness. In either case, there is a message that is displayed in the upper-left message area that tells you that the preset failed to load and tells you which mods were enabled when you saved it. This is the intended behavior.
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b636/edbmods/preset-mod-error_zpsk1zykmr1.jpg)
If you have a lot of mods enabled and can't read the entire list in the message, you can see the full message in the console.
Quote from: Rhisereld on February 07, 2015, 10:14:27 PM
I really enjoy this mod - unfortunately it seems to break quite a few things. This is the only mod I have installed.
- People from other factions almost always wear 2-3 hats and never pants... clothing seems to stack indefinitely.
- Successful healing is always 0% with a carefully prepared surgeon, even at skill level 12.
- Overview screen broke after a while, see screenshot. I have six colonists, and Vinny can do a lot more than firefighting.
(http://i.gyazo.com/f3efacd6b69065c60665cab95b6414f7.png)
Unfortunately disabling the mod doesn't fix the overview screen issue, I may need to start another colony.
I get that bug when I put on a mod that needs a new started so it not just this mod. I find that it best when adding big mods that change thing about the game to even started a new planet.
I have come across an issue with Prepare carefully created colonists and the Cybernetic storm mod. The colonists created via prepare carefully have no listings for cybernetic or nanotech limbs etc in the health bills. This is only the four colonists created this way and all others can undergoe operations to have them fitted. Do you perhaps know of any way i can change the save file etc to add the recipes so they can use these?
Thanks.
Quote from: seadderkrupp on February 16, 2015, 10:39:54 AM
I have come across an issue with Prepare carefully created colonists and the Cybernetic storm mod. The colonists created via prepare carefully have no listings for cybernetic or nanotech limbs etc in the health bills. This is only the four colonists created this way and all others can undergoe operations to have them fitted. Do you perhaps know of any way i can change the save file etc to add the recipes so they can use these?
From a quick test with Prepare Carefully and Cybernetic Storm both enabled (also tested both with and without the Interface mod enabled), I was not able to reproduce this problem. I created my colonists in Prepare Carefully, spawned in some nano parts and did have the option to install them. Are you using other mods as well?
Same issue for me, as I posted before. I have deleted and "reinstalled" the entire Alpha 8, started with ONLY EdB and Crash Landing, and get two major issues:
1. If I start with the "Amongst the Wreckage" scenario, everythings works fine, until I reload. Then black screen; I can hear sounds, but nothing else.
2. I can't use the "Crash Landing - Hard" scenario; I get through all the menus, the game starts with a yellow warning, then nothing at all. I left it running on FF for several minutes, and nothing. "Crash Landing - Easy" works just fine though.
if i load an more mods, "Wreckage" acts the same as before, but sometimes I get a melting white screen to black.
If anyone has any more suggestions, I would welcome them. I have all the latest mod releases for anything I use.
Quote from: Woolridge on January 15, 2015, 02:17:50 AM
wow, that was fast O_O
well, i'll try it out and let you know if i get any further errors
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sorry, but i still end up in a blackscreen with the console spitting out dozens of errors,
the only difference is, that i'm now able to change the starting items, wich were a blank screen in the previous build^^
here a link to a screenshot of what i get when starting with EdB interface, Prepare Carefully and The Metal Age:
http://i.imgur.com/luOHWU8.jpg?1
(i hope that image-host is allowed here, since i don't know where else i should upload them)
Quote from: shhfiftyfive on February 09, 2015, 12:06:17 PM
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Did you exit and turn rim world back on after turning off/on any mods? Ive only error when I don't do that.
Quote from: rdz1122 on February 16, 2015, 05:48:24 PM
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When you only had end+ crash landing did you also try with ebd scenarios? Also you restart the game after loading it with only those 2 mods active I ask because I've also done the try and test thing before and the game if you load your copy only and then the original only the mods you have on in the copy will be on.
Quote from: rdz1122 on February 16, 2015, 05:48:24 PM
Same issue for me, as I posted before. I have deleted and "reinstalled" the entire Alpha 8, started with ONLY EdB and Crash Landing, and get two major issues:
1. If I start with the "Amongst the Wreckage" scenario, everythings works fine, until I reload. Then black screen; I can hear sounds, but nothing else.
2. I can't use the "Crash Landing - Hard" scenario; I get through all the menus, the game starts with a yellow warning, then nothing at all. I left it running on FF for several minutes, and nothing. "Crash Landing - Easy" works just fine though.
Take a look at my response in the Scenarios thread (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=9000.msg103435#msg103435). I'm not sure I have a solution to both issues, but I was able to reproduce the problems with the Crash Landing scenario.
So i spent the night going through mods and disabling them though not created any colonists through Prepare carefully. And it seems to be the Glittertech mod. So went into it again and used P.C to make some colonists, saved the preset and got a small error message about missing mods(missed it being over the corner of screen). Also checked the bodyparts of p.c and it was missing the nanotech parts from the selections. Going to have to go routing about in the glittertech defs file to see if i can find what causes this.
Thanks for looking into it.
Edit - found it. The humanoid Defs file in Glittertech is missing the recipes for most of the cybernetics etc. So copied all the recipes from cybernetic storm into that file and it works. Sorry to have bothered you with this just thought you may have come across it. ( and saved me the last 4 or so hours looking through tonnes of def files lol :)
Again thanks.
Does anyone know if this works with alpha 9? Its one of the go-to mods for me; I'll give it a shot and see in the meantime but if there's any subtle issues or bugs that might bite me that anyone has found I thought I'd check.
Quote from: unifex on February 18, 2015, 11:27:25 PM
Does anyone know if this works with alpha 9? Its one of the go-to mods for me; I'll give it a shot and see in the meantime but if there's any subtle issues or bugs that might bite me that anyone has found I thought I'd check.
It will not work with alpha 9. I've begun converting it, but it will probably take a couple of days before it will be ready.
Thank you for the time you put into these mods to help enhance this game for us.
Quote from: Kelvorn on February 19, 2015, 07:31:33 AM
Thank you for the time you put into these mods to help enhance this game for us.
100% agree with this. Thank you EdB your mods are great and make the game much better.
Quote from: EdB on February 19, 2015, 12:25:22 AM
It will not work with alpha 9. I've begun converting it, but it will probably take a couple of days before it will be ready.
Lovely mate! I admire your commitment and passion. And I cannot wait for the new version! Great job! :)
Agree I love this mod.
Thank you for your hard work and dedication. My wife and I love this mod.
Awesome work, I can't imagine playing Rimworld without your mods. Godspeed on the update.
excited to finally try it out. I have heard amazing things about this mod and think it is essential after testing Alpha 9
More "Thank you for your hard work" spam....but I feel the same way. Your mods really enhance the game play for me so much!
You rock EdB!
While on the topic of spamming gratitude, here's mine too. I'm not interested in lots of mods but Prepare Carefully and Less Incident Trolling are something i won't play without.
will you update to alpha 9?
Quote from: DarkMatterKnight on February 20, 2015, 03:17:31 AM
will you update to alpha 9?
Kindly learn to read through a thread before commenting, and also don't harass the modders. They work very hard for your convenience.
Hey, I just wanted to say, fantastic work on this mod. I started back in A5 and I remember CCM, it was one of my favorites, so to see this mod is pretty awesome! I've been checking back here every few hours waiting for an update, but either way fist bump to you for the epic work!
Will this be updated to alpha Nine.
ONE PAGE BACK:
Quote from: EdB on February 19, 2015, 12:25:22 AM
It will not work with alpha 9. I've begun converting it, but it will probably take a couple of days before it will be ready.
Please learn to search before repeating the same questions over and over.
Alpha 9 release is out. See the original post (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6261.0) for details.
Let me know if you run into any bugs.
Perfect timing for an update, I literally just got on around a minute ago to see if my favorite mods for Rimworld are updated yet. Now to start playing Rimworld again with my overpowered colonists >=)
Quote from: EdB on February 21, 2015, 02:10:10 AM
Alpha 9 release is out. See the original post (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6261.0) for details.
Let me know if you run into any bugs.
Now I can started playing Alpha 9 Thank you EdB.
Sweet, A9 version is out. Now I can tweak things at start, game doesn't feel right without it somehow.
Downloaded.
Great work, EdB!
Thanks again!
lol I may be late to thanking you but at lest I'm dling only 1 hour after it got updated XD I almost did not check.
It's funny because I was just going ask which one would be more difficult to update this or interface (Not asking release date but you're opinion on which one is harder to update).
Aaan now redoing my game <3
I'm not sure how Rimworld handles this sort of thing, but regarding the "Add Resources and Equipment" page of this mod...
It would be nice if you could click on an amount field (for a given item) and type in the number - repeatedly clicking the arrow to the left or right of the amount is somewhat tedious.
For example I tend to drop most of the wood resource out of default, because I can always chop down trees (so far I haven't played ice sheet or places where stuff has many issues growing).
Edit: Also, the colonist age - especially for the chronological age, as that could be really high in some scenarios you might want to play (like, for example, some kind of STL/cryo colony ship survivors?).
Hey, I have the latest version of RW and the A9 version of Prepare Carefully but when i create a new colony the Prepare Carefully button isnt there.
Getting the same problem here, no button.
Same here, I have the latest alpha 9d, and the prepare carefully button is not there.
Confirming issue, no errors in console but no button. Second attempt and starting a game results in argument cannot be null error, something in the equipment list generator?
What mods do you have I am not not getting an error?
I just want to compare I have:
Animuhair
battle stations
core
cybernetic storm
darkness
prepare
Expanded Prosthetics &Organ Engineering
fast floors
fix bone
grow goods
half-rim
horrors
icons
romance
Miscellaneous
modular tables
more vanilla turrets
more hair
more storage
rim effect
rim fire
rtgs
target practice
temperature control
vein miner
water boarding
zombie
I'm not getting an error either, prepare carefully is available just fine for me with latest update.
Thanks for the update. ::)
For anyone who isn't seeing the prepare carefully button. Be sure that, in your excitement and glee, you didn't place the mod two folders deep.
Fixing that issue fixed it for me..
I know i sound stupid, but im pretty new to the game and all, wheres the download button for this mod-pack? XD
Quote from: Mousermouse on February 21, 2015, 01:46:23 PM
For anyone who isn't seeing the prepare carefully button. Be sure that, in your excitement and glee, you didn't place the mod two folders deep.
Fixing that issue fixed it for me..
Thanks for sharing this info. This is almost always the cause of this particular problem.
If you're seeing this issue and this does not solve it for you, please let me know.
deffo not a mod setup issue, ill try with just your mod, might be a conflict.
Quote from: PTracy2014 on February 21, 2015, 01:52:42 PM
I know i sound stupid, but im pretty new to the game and all, wheres the download button for this mod-pack? XD
There is a Dropbox link in the original post, below the screenshots.
If you don't want to use Dropbox for some reason, the mod is also included as an attachment at the bottom of the original post, but you must be logged into the forum to see that link.
The button was missing for me too.
I deleted my old worlds and saves and the button appeared
it seems to work for me if I dont use my PODs mod or my Tomahawk mod, im guessing im doing something that PC doesnt like with the equipment, ill double check them for any sneaky updates since 9b.
EdB, mean anything to you?
System.ArgumentNullException: Argument cannot be null.
Parameter name: source
at System.Linq.Check.SourceAndPredicate (System.Object source, System.Object predicate) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Linq.Enumerable.SingleOrDefault[ThingCategoryDef] (IEnumerable`1 source, System.Func`2 predicate) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.EquipmentDatabase.CreateEquipmentEntry (Verse.ThingDef def, Verse.ThingDef stuffDef, Int32 type) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.EquipmentDatabase.AddThingDef (Verse.ThingDef def, Int32 type) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.EquipmentDatabase.BuildEquipmentLists () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.EquipmentDatabase..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.get_Instance () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_CharMaker..ctor (Boolean generateColonists) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ModController.MenusUpdate () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ModController.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)
Wait....the thingCategory.....
edit - yep got it was missing:
<thingCategories>
<li>Grenades</li>
</thingCategories>
from those mods
Yes, for me it was the PODs mod that made the button go away.
redownload ive uploaded fixes.
Quote from: EdB on February 21, 2015, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: Mousermouse on February 21, 2015, 01:46:23 PM
For anyone who isn't seeing the prepare carefully button. Be sure that, in your excitement and glee, you didn't place the mod two folders deep.
Fixing that issue fixed it for me..
Thanks for sharing this info. This is almost always the cause of this particular problem.
If you're seeing this issue and this does not solve it for you, please let me know.
Mod was installed correctly, button still doesn't show up. I've got the latest build, and every mod I have doesn't touch anything this mod does. Except maybe Apparello, which is out of date (but mostly works anyway), but otherwise I can't think of anything.
Quote from: skullywag on February 21, 2015, 02:39:36 PM
EdB, mean anything to you?
System.ArgumentNullException: Argument cannot be null.
I will add a check so that it doesn't fail so badly if categories are missing because that will likely cause issues with other mods.
I have been looking for a mod like this, VERY EXCITED!!!! Thanks so much!
Anybody else having an issue where no buttons are showing up? I just did a clean download of the latest RimWorld version, added the latest Prepare Carefully version, tried to turn it on, and... nothing. It's just the background without any of the main menu buttons. I tried redownloading both. Still no dice. It's kind of disappointing since I was waiting on this mod to play again. Anybody have any ideas? I'm not trying to use any other mods with it. All the folders are one deep.
Quote from: ASCarroll on February 22, 2015, 01:37:27 AM
Anybody else having an issue where no buttons are showing up? I just did a clean download of the latest RimWorld version, added the latest Prepare Carefully version, tried to turn it on, and... nothing. It's just the background without any of the main menu buttons. I tried redownloading both. Still no dice. It's kind of disappointing since I was waiting on this mod to play again. Anybody have any ideas? I'm not trying to use any other mods with it. All the folders are one deep.
If you read through some of the posts from earlier in the day, it sounds like some other people have been having this issue when using it with other mods. I think I have a fix and will be posting it shortly.
Are you using other mods?
Gotcha. My bad. I thought they were talking about a button introduced by another mod. This is the only one I'm using.
Quote from: ASCarroll on February 22, 2015, 01:49:26 AM
Gotcha. My bad. I thought they were talking about a button introduced by another mod. This is the only one I'm using.
Sounds like a different issue then. Are you saying that when you first enable the mod, the main menu disappears and you're stuck on just the main background image?
I did see that happen when I accidentally loaded the alpha 8 version in alpha 9 earlier today, so definitely triple-check that you have at least version 1.7.1. If you are using the latest, I may ask you to take a look in the error log to help me figure out what might be going on.
Here is all the mods I have installed. No Prepare Carefully button. Any ideas?
[attachment deleted due to age]
Quote from: InfinityKage on February 22, 2015, 04:12:34 AM
Here is all the mods I have installed. No Prepare Carefully button. Any ideas?
Didn't someone say PODs mod was causing it to not show up?
Quote from: Dragoon on February 22, 2015, 05:07:13 AM
Quote from: InfinityKage on February 22, 2015, 04:12:34 AM
Here is all the mods I have installed. No Prepare Carefully button. Any ideas?
Didn't someone say PODs mod was causing it to not show up?
Tried removing both POD as well as Tomahawk. Still no button.
Are all your mods alpha 9 or are some from alpha 8 that are handling? Cause if that's not ti I got nothing.
Quote from: Dragoon on February 22, 2015, 05:26:15 AM
Are all your mods alpha 9 or are some from alpha 8 that are handling? Cause if that's not ti I got nothing.
nope. All alpha 9 mods.
Are you guys getting the "source cannot be null" error?
Tomahawk and PODs have been fixed, redownload if you havent. If you are seeing the above issue a mod has forgotten to add thingcategories, its a case of adding mods 1 by 1 to find the one that does it.
Hello EdB, its CrashLanding modder again. I'm trying to update CrashLanding to work without EdBScenarios, and made a success. But it does not compatible with EdB Prepare Carefully. Because i am changing default map generarion. I want to ask you about possible solution.
I've tried to use EdBPrepareCarefully.dll as a reference and take colonists and equipment instances from your classes, like i do with EdBScenarios, but it does not work properly this time.
Here the example of code that happen in my replaced Genstep_Colonists:
foreach (Pawn p in EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.Instance.Colonists) {
cpc.containedThings.Add(p);
}
foreach (EdB.PrepareCarefully.SelectedEquipment t in EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.Instance.Equipment) {
...
The colonists appear in the game, but not the equipment. Moreover, the secont "foreach" were empty.
The question: Is there are some lists of finished (prepared carefully) colonists and equipments, that are i can take and put to my crash parts? I mean the list of colonists and equipment that is formed after all prepare carefully steps, but just before the actual game starts and drop pods deployed.
Quote from: skullywag on February 22, 2015, 07:41:23 AM
Are you guys getting the "source cannot be null" error?
Tomahawk and PODs have been fixed, redownload if you havent. If you are seeing the above issue a mod has forgotten to add thingcategories, its a case of adding mods 1 by 1 to find the one that does it.
I'm not getting that error. Ugh... I'm so lazy. Ah well. I guess I'd better start the one by one.
Quote from: InfinityKage on February 22, 2015, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: skullywag on February 22, 2015, 07:41:23 AM
Are you guys getting the "source cannot be null" error?
Tomahawk and PODs have been fixed, redownload if you havent. If you are seeing the above issue a mod has forgotten to add thingcategories, its a case of adding mods 1 by 1 to find the one that does it.
I'm not getting that error. Ugh... I'm so lazy. Ah well. I guess I'd better start the one by one.
I did release an update last night that attempted to fix this problem, so if you've got that version, you may not see the issue.
Quote from: EdB on February 22, 2015, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: InfinityKage on February 22, 2015, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: skullywag on February 22, 2015, 07:41:23 AM
Are you guys getting the "source cannot be null" error?
Tomahawk and PODs have been fixed, redownload if you havent. If you are seeing the above issue a mod has forgotten to add thingcategories, its a case of adding mods 1 by 1 to find the one that does it.
I'm not getting that error. Ugh... I'm so lazy. Ah well. I guess I'd better start the one by one.
I did release an update last night that attempted to fix this problem, so if you've got that version, you may not see the issue.
Ah. Well let me download it again.
I figured it out. Turns out it was a mod called Pawn Diverasty. Which turned out not to be a mod at all. It was just some random thing file I put in a folder... I didn't even spell diversity right...
It used to be with the mod that when you clicked to add a resource, for example steel, it would add 10 at a time. Now it only adds one at a time. Is there any way to make it so that it adds 10 of the resource again?
Yeah I'm sorry if I was misleading, I only know that around 20 pilas and bows wouldn't be picked up and only deactivating the mod helped it, no idea where the problem actually lies.
Quote from: Peaches on February 22, 2015, 01:39:35 PM
It used to be with the mod that when you clicked to add a resource, for example steel, it would add 10 at a time. Now it only adds one at a time. Is there any way to make it so that it adds 10 of the resource again?
You can now click-and-drag the number to increase the amount more quickly. You can also hold down the shift key when clicking the buttons to increase the amount by 10 (or hold down the shift key while dragging to increase the amount even more quickly).
Quote from: EdB on February 22, 2015, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: Peaches on February 22, 2015, 01:39:35 PM
It used to be with the mod that when you clicked to add a resource, for example steel, it would add 10 at a time. Now it only adds one at a time. Is there any way to make it so that it adds 10 of the resource again?
You can now click-and-drag the number to increase the amount more quickly. You can also hold down the shift key when clicking the buttons to increase the amount by 10 (or hold down the shift key while dragging to increase the amount even more quickly).
Thank you!
Has anyone come across an issue where making clothes on the tailoring bech just deletes the resources? On the bug report forum they just said to turn EdB PC off in the options.
Quote from: seadderkrupp on February 22, 2015, 03:44:13 PM
Has anyone come across an issue where making clothes on the tailoring bech just deletes the resources? On the bug report forum they just said to turn EdB PC off in the options.
I released a new version (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=5258.0) a couple of hours ago that should fix this problem.
Any chance of adding an info button/hover over stats on resources? I'd like to have a better idea precisely what weapons I'm giving them, and the wiki isn't up to date.
Quote from: MsMeiriona on February 22, 2015, 04:38:11 PM
Any chance of adding an info button/hover over stats on resources? I'd like to have a better idea precisely what weapons I'm giving them, and the wiki isn't up to date.
Rick click on them.
Quote from: Dragoon on February 22, 2015, 04:50:26 PM
Quote from: MsMeiriona on February 22, 2015, 04:38:11 PM
Any chance of adding an info button/hover over stats on resources? I'd like to have a better idea precisely what weapons I'm giving them, and the wiki isn't up to date.
Rick click on them.
Thank you!
Is it possible to edit backstories so we can choose the body type for it? (yes i read first page I don't mean change it in prepare carefully)
Quote from: Dragoon on February 22, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
Is it possible to edit backstories so we can choose the body type for it? (yes i read first page I don't mean change it in prepare carefully)
The problem is that you can change the backstories while you're setting up your character in Prepare Carefully, but then when you load the characters up from a save game, it will change back to the defaults. Without including custom save game data about which body types you've chosen, you'll lose it.
Quote from: EdB on February 22, 2015, 06:25:09 PM
Quote from: Dragoon on February 22, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
Is it possible to edit backstories so we can choose the body type for it? (yes i read first page I don't mean change it in prepare carefully)
The problem is that you can change the backstories while you're setting up your character in Prepare Carefully, but then when you load the characters up from a save game, it will change back to the defaults. Without including custom save game data about which body types you've chosen, you'll lose it.
What about modifying the back stories themselves to have different body types like in defs ?
Quote from: Dragoon on February 22, 2015, 06:48:39 PM
Quote from: EdB on February 22, 2015, 06:25:09 PM
Quote from: Dragoon on February 22, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
Is it possible to edit backstories so we can choose the body type for it? (yes i read first page I don't mean change it in prepare carefully)
The problem is that you can change the backstories while you're setting up your character in Prepare Carefully, but then when you load the characters up from a save game, it will change back to the defaults. Without including custom save game data about which body types you've chosen, you'll lose it.
What about modifying the back stories themselves to have different body types like in defs ?
It's fairly straightforward to modify or even to add new backstories. They aren't mod-able through XML, but from code it's easy to play around with them.
I wish I knew how do any of that (I recently figured out how modify armor/weapons). I was hoping to change doomsday pariah to the body of brigand.
Stumbled upon a bug related to my translation: Can't modify colonist's passion.
It overlaps with experience gauge so when I try to click fire icon, it only affects experience but not passion.
(http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy260/urty5656/screenshot1_1.png)
There is a workaround though. Turn game's language to English, and than to Korean, retry Prepare Carefully, everything fine. But when I restart the game, it reverts back to its bugged form.
Can't guess what is causing it; nor whether other languages cause this too. As there is a (partial)solution, and it's not a case for English, it shouldn't be a big bug. Just annoying.
Deleted - nvmd:) found it was easier to remove Glittertech and that sorted all the problems.
Quote from: EdB on September 21, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
- Changed the "clear skills" button to behave like a "reset skills" button.
It now resets skill values and passions to their original values, instead
of setting everything to zero. Changed the button icon to reflect the
change in behavior.
Any chance of this chance being undone?
Quote from: Rasip on February 24, 2015, 05:43:25 PM
Quote from: EdB on September 21, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
- Changed the "clear skills" button to behave like a "reset skills" button.
It now resets skill values and passions to their original values, instead
of setting everything to zero. Changed the button icon to reflect the
change in behavior.
Any chance of this chance being undone?
Do you mean you want me to add the "set everything to zero" button back in? I can probably fit both buttons in there.
Quote from: EdB on February 24, 2015, 11:08:09 PM
Quote from: Rasip on February 24, 2015, 05:43:25 PM
Quote from: EdB on September 21, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
- Changed the "clear skills" button to behave like a "reset skills" button.
It now resets skill values and passions to their original values, instead
of setting everything to zero. Changed the button icon to reflect the
change in behavior.
Any chance of this chance being undone?
Do you mean you want me to add the "set everything to zero" button back in? I can probably fit both buttons in there.
both would be fine. i used the old button's function. at the moment i have to do it manually.
The only complaint I have about this is the name limitations on backstories, as I'm not really sure I understand why they even exist. I'm sure it's something like the body types, but I really feel there should be some work-arounds on this. I think the thing that bothers me most is there is no way to tell 100% what the correct name should be for the character other than a first name, and often times that's meaningless without a last name.
Is there any way to at least make the name randomizer only select from names valid to the backstory? I feel like that could vastly alleviate the issue if possible.
Quote from: Adeelos on February 26, 2015, 08:48:26 PM
The only complaint I have about this is the name limitations on backstories, as I'm not really sure I understand why they even exist. I'm sure it's something like the body types, but I really feel there should be some work-arounds on this. I think the thing that bothers me most is there is no way to tell 100% what the correct name should be for the character other than a first name, and often times that's meaningless without a last name.
Is there any way to at least make the name randomizer only select from names valid to the backstory? I feel like that could vastly alleviate the issue if possible.
That's really just a warning to let you know that the name you choose might not match the name in the backstory. You can choose whatever name you want.
Some of the backstories are written in a way that names and genders can be swapped in to change the text to match what you've chosen. But some of them are hard-coded to a specific name and/or gender. The ones that are like that are generally custom backstories that were a kickstarter reward.
It's possible for me to rewrite all of those backstories to make them flexible, but it's a lot of maintenance that would need to be redone with every alpha release, and it just doesn't seem worth it right now. Again, it's just warning. It doesn't prevent you from choosing whatever name that you want.
I'm having issues getting this mod to work. I have used it before in Alpha 8 and it worked fine. It's located in the mods folder and when I open the game it is shown as active in the Mods option. When I go to create a new colony it does not have the button to prepare carefully on the character creation screen. I'm wondering if perhaps its incompatible with the latest build? I just installed the newest version of Rimworld which is version 0.9.727
Quote from: Sorrow on February 27, 2015, 12:57:59 PM
I'm having issues getting this mod to work. I have used it before in Alpha 8 and it worked fine. It's located in the mods folder and when I open the game it is shown as active in the Mods option. When I go to create a new colony it does not have the button to prepare carefully on the character creation screen. I'm wondering if perhaps its incompatible with the latest build? I just installed the newest version of Rimworld which is version 0.9.727
make sure the folder you pasted into the mods folder doesn't have a subfolder that is the one that actually belongs in the mods folder.
Yep completely forgot about the folder within the folder. The issue is resolved. Thanx for posting! :)
Quote from: Dragoon on February 22, 2015, 04:50:26 PM
Quote from: MsMeiriona on February 22, 2015, 04:38:11 PM
Any chance of adding an info button/hover over stats on resources? I'd like to have a better idea precisely what weapons I'm giving them, and the wiki isn't up to date.
Rick click on them.
And now I realise that while this works on the resources page, there is no way to tell the stats on the body parts in colonist creation. *dies*
So close to my micromanaging dreams.
I just downloaded this Mod with the latest version 9. When I added the Mod, the screen went to the opening planet screen but had no buttons or text available, just the picture. When I cancelled out of the game and restarted it, the screen was just black. All were the lastest versions and I double checked for the folder inside the folder. Any thoughts?
Thanks. Love the Mods.
Quote from: Kellern on March 05, 2015, 06:51:20 PM
I just downloaded this Mod with the latest version 9. When I added the Mod, the screen went to the opening planet screen but had no buttons or text available, just the picture. When I cancelled out of the game and restarted it, the screen was just black. All were the lastest versions and I double checked for the folder inside the folder. Any thoughts?
Thanks. Love the Mods.
Sorry that you're having trouble with it. A similar issue was reported not long ago (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6261.msg105957#msg105957). Read through those responses to see if there any hints on how to fix. I don't really have a clear understanding of what might be causing this. I've only ever seen this happen when you have a version mismatch between mod and game, i.e. alpha 8 mod with alpha 9 game.
Quote from: Tryndalis on March 06, 2015, 09:55:28 PM
In the folder for this mod where are the preset save files located if I wanted to share them with a friend?
The preset files are not saved in the mod folder but instead are saved in the same directory as world files and saved games, in a directory called "PrepareCarefully". In Windows, this should be in the "Users\[Your User]\AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld" folder.
Hi, I am new to mods, I like the simplicity of addition to the vanilla game of your mods, however I am very for maintaining balance. I have noticed that the points system (a good idea) is an amalgam of the characters, and gear. I have searched this thread for 'points' and found surprisingly little. I wonder, at what point is it to be considered cheating by going over the set point level you have chosen? (I realise you have tailored the points system).
I find the random characters buttons can generate three characters with the points at -1400 without even altering anything, and as such I wonder why it was not tuned to a number 10% higher than you have actually done it.
I normally play on rough or below (for experience reasons, not difficulty - I didnt back this for an RTS :)).
Simply put, what is a hard OP number to consider the starting colony beyond intended for the vanilla game, 16500? For the purposes of this question I am only tweaking the colonists themselves, excluding their starting gear/health and the group starting gear.
And for custom game creation (where starting balance would be irrelevant) I simply love the add colonist button.
Cant wait to do a game with 10 identical (same backstory) characters with minimal identical skills. I've already noted your points system allows for several new characters within your limits as long as the existing doods are weakened.
Quote from: Sacarathe on March 08, 2015, 07:12:34 AM
Hi, I am new to mods, I like the simplicity of addition to the vanilla game of your mods, however I am very for maintaining balance. I have noticed that the points system (a good idea) is an amalgam of the characters, and gear. I have searched this thread for 'points' and found surprisingly little. I wonder, at what point is it to be considered cheating by going over the set point level you have chosen? (I realise you have tailored the points system).
I find the random characters buttons can generate three characters with the points at -1400 without even altering anything, and as such I wonder why it was not tuned to a number 10% higher than you have actually done it.
I normally play on rough or below (for experience reasons, not difficulty - I didnt back this for an RTS :)).
Simply put, what is a hard OP number to consider the starting colony beyond intended for the vanilla game, 16500? For the purposes of this question I am only tweaking the colonists themselves, excluding their starting gear/health and the group starting gear.
And for custom game creation (where starting balance would be irrelevant) I simply love the add colonist button.
Cant wait to do a game with 10 identical (same backstory) characters with minimal identical skills. I've already noted your points system allows for several new characters within your limits as long as the existing doods are weakened.
This is probably more information than you're looking for, but I might as well go into a little detail around the current state of the point system--mostly because I'm not entirely happy with it in the alpha 9 version of the mod.
Balancing is really difficult, and it takes a lot of time. The point system is built off of the built-in "market value" system that attaches a cost to everything for trading in the game. My hope was that using this would take advantage of all of the balancing that the vanilla game is doing when assigning this market value.
Unfortunately, not everything is factored into the market value of individual characters. For example, passions are not factored in at all, so a character with every skill set to the maximum passion level has the same market value as a character with no passions at all. This seems like an oversight to me because passion levels really are quite valuable.
Also, the market values for some items in the game seem unbalanced to me. I've mentioned this example before, but the market value of the plasteel knife that you start off with is equivalent to the market value of twenty pistols. Who wouldn't trade in their starting plasteel knife for 20 pistols?
In the vanilla game, it doesn't matter as much, but in the context of this mod, it causes problems, so I need to make my own custom adjustments to those market values. I've tried balance out some of the inconsistencies (for example by reducing the value of melee weapons vs. ranged weapons), but it's difficult to get it to come out the way that I want it to.
Ideally, every time that you press the "Prepare Carefully" button, you'd get dropped into a situation where you roughly have the same number of remaining points, with somewhere between zero and a few hundred points to spend depending on the three random characters that were generated for you. Unfortunately, this usually does not happen because the three random characters that are generated for you are wildly inconsistent. Some of them have 12 passion levels to go with well-balanced skill levels while some of them have 2 passion levels to go with three or four "incapable of" skills. Sometimes all three of your colonists are wearing synthread jackets and sometimes two of the three are naked (synthread has a fairly high market value). This makes it really difficult to get a consistent point value to start with.
Hopefully that explains why you see those inconsistencies. I'm trying to make it better, but I'm still not quite happy with where it is right now.
As far as the question of how many points starts to be OP--it's a difficult one to answer. Focusing on the character generation, the random characters that get generated really fall into three buckets:
- A decent average character will have a point value somewhere in 2800-3000 range. Those are the characters that at first glance look like they have a good distribution of passions and not too many incapable skills. You'll see these most frequently.
- Less frequently, you'll see characters generated in the 3200-3600 range. These characters usually are incapable of nothing and have one or two high skill levels and an above-average number of passions.
- You'll also see characters in the 1800-2400 range. These characters typically will be incapable in a number of skills and have a below average number of passions.
Characters in that 2800-3000 range feel the most fair to me. Or having one average character, one above average and one below average. Something like that, but that's just my opinion. Remember that you can always hover your mouse over the "Remaining Points" value to see how the points break down between characters.
This is most excellent information, and not more than I was after.
QuoteRemember that you can always hover your mouse over the "Remaining Points" value to see how the points break down between characters.
This was not clear to me. I was about to suggest it (then I checked in game before posting :D).
Perhaps you could put in the OP a note about that (or perhaps update a screenshot to include it visible.)
And perhaps include a list of ranges (in the op) of colonist point values relative to ability though it seems to me fairly clear with knowledge of that tool tip that and ideal character will be worth 3k, though I just took the 3 starting chars and got 2.8k, 2.1k, & 2.8k .
This is a really well-done mod and it adds quite a lot of replay! I hope you get around to pricing traits, if that's possible, because they aren't balanced against each other at all. Great mod never the less!
This is one of several mods, along with the interface mod, that I am starting to consider essential to this game. As a player looking to keep the "vanilla" feel of the game while still looking for ways to improve gameplay, I love how much time and effort EdB puts into balance and quality of life for the player.
The complexity of making the points system work without overly constraining the player or allowing hugely unbalanced starts is almost incomprehensible, and while I see a lot of room for improvement, I'm very impressed by how balanced it feels overall.
Thanks for this mod and all of the hard work that must go into it!
Hey, thanks a ton for this mod! :)
Edit: I had an idea yesterday, but I thought it over, and for future-proofness I'd like to propose a new feature instead:
A way to list and filter backgrounds, so that you could filter them by the skill they add, and see the skills they modify (and jobs they prevent) at a glance.
It wouldn't necessarily have to replace the current way of selecting backgrounds, the only issue is finding one you want, once you know its name it's easy to select it.
Thanks :)
Old post:
I have a request, I'd like all backstories and traits in an excel sheet, and luckily I'm willing to do work to get there, however I'm having trouble finding the backstories in the xml files, so I assume it's directly in the code?
I hope you have access to the backstory files, and I've prepared a google spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QdWNsNhMF_1BxIzoKkALwCMg7e8IXXuo8qACOkQ7jok/edit?usp=sharing) into which you could paste them for me, and I'd work it out into nicely human readable form for everyone.
(sry bad english :p)
I have the same problem as Kellern. No buttons whatsoever. Can you pls fix this? This is my favorite mod, I just can't play without it. :'C
Quote from: Lonery on March 21, 2015, 01:57:04 PM
(sry bad english :p)
I have the same problem as Kellern. No buttons whatsoever. Can you pls fix this? This is my favorite mod, I just can't play without it. :'C
I have not been able to duplicate this problem, so it's difficult for me to fix it. Be sure that you have the latest version of the game, the latest version of the mod and be sure to try it with no other mods enabled.
If there's anyone out there for whom this is happening, if you want to help me figure out what's causing it, send me the contents of game's error log, RimWorld727Win\RimWorld727Win_Data\output_log.txt. Usually, the error that's causing the issue will be repeated many times in this file--you don't need to send me everything; just copy-and-paste up to the first few occurrences. Also, keep in mind that this file does include some information about your computer, i.e. details about your graphics card, the directory where the game is installed, etc. If you don't want to share this with the whole forum, just send me the contents of the file in a private message.
Nevermind, I've figured it out. ^^ The game was in the directory with russian letters in it. (This phrase probably has thousands of mistakes ._.)
So... many... backstories... can't... choose... x-x
This is really cool though. After a small forever I managed to decide on one colonist setup. I like the point system too. It helps in keeping you from going too crazy with the editing and seems pretty fair.
Maybe I'm just blind, but is there no way to access the information screen about colonists while Preparing Carefully? Or to change their health?
Quote from: poisin224 on March 25, 2015, 11:22:27 PM
Maybe I'm just blind, but is there no way to access the information screen about colonists while Preparing Carefully? Or to change their health?
What do you mean? you don't change their health you can turn off scars if you want to.
(I'ts in the body parts tab) Unless that is what you ment.
Love this mod, just starting with that. Best mod ever. :D Anyway, request if that's ok. Could you make it possible to save a colonist while in a game to be brought into a new game?
Also related if you know, is there a way to add colonists to the potential 'spawns' with enemy factions/space refugees/slaves?
Just did a quick release, 1.7.3, to fix a bug and to add back in one feature that I had taken out.
If you were having trouble with the passion buttons overlapping the skill names for the translation that you're using, this should now be fixed. Thanks to Latta for pointing me in the right direction for the fix--sorry it was broken for so long even after you provided the translation!
I also added the "clear skills" button back in. This lets you reset all of your passions and skills to zero (or to their minimum value based on backstory bonuses). Thanks to Rasip for the feedback--sorry that I took out a feature that you were using!
Hi there! This mod is great.
I have two suggestions:
1. Possibility to create more than 10 colonists with this mod.
2. Some way to save colonist from active game.
Why? It will give way to the game serials :) ::) And do your mod even better!
Quote from: Ray_Anor on April 02, 2015, 08:19:24 AM
Hi there! This mod is great.
I have two suggestions:
1. Possibility to create more than 10 colonists with this mod.
2. Some way to save colonist from active game.
Why? It will give way to the game serials :) ::) And do your mod even better!
Creating more than 10 colonists would require a change to tabs at the top of the window so that you could fit those extra colonist names. I'm using the existing tab widget code in the game, which doesn't support anything like scrolling or paging. This could happen if I get inspired, but for now, building out new code to handle the tab widget is not something that I'm planning.
Saving colonists from an active game really is a great idea, but finding a place for it in the game UI and implementing the UI increases the complexity of the mod significantly. Maybe it could be done as a add-on to the interface mod, but I don't have plans to work on this any time soon.
This mod is awesome. Now i could never play without it, it really lets you get in there and design your own colonists which makes the whole game more interesting. One suggestion would be to allow all hairstyles, cause the RNG does this anyways, never forget my male colonist with pink pigtails! Anyways, i like the Long hair on males it looks good with the big build and the skinny one - just a suggestion you saved me thousands of hours in notebook plus trying to give my pawns custom haircuts thank you!
I still think you should try to price traits, because so many of them are blatantly all positive or all negative. This mod and your interface mod (along with some others) are really awesome feature sets that I feel ought to be incorporated into the vanilla game at some point.
found a bug and not sure if it's because of mods misbehaving with one another but when i try and input a name in prepare carefully it bugs out.
example: i try put in: Jake Viktor - Jakob - Greaves (every - is the next box so first box (his name) is Jake viktor then his nickname ingame is jakob then his last name is Greaves)
what i get is: Jake ktorVi - Jakob - Greaves
also the cursor appears to be in the box next to the one your entering a name for.
EDIT: i have 6 colonists but a restart seems to fix this :/
Hey, I just wanted to start off saying that I love your mod, and that it vastly improves the game for me. Unfortunately, ever since I've upgraded to Alpha 9, I've been having a hard time getting *any* mods to run, edb mods included.
I downloaded and unzipped the mods, as per usual, but every time they never seem to work correctly. I always get this: (http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l550/RaidouFrost/Screenshot%20112_zpsselpxrna.png)
And when I start up a world, neither mod works.
I've done the typical trouble shooting things such as clearing my data and uninstalling all my prior mods and restarting the game. Any idea what might be going on?
You did something I just did with another mod, you unpacked the zip into a subdirectory, that's all. Look in Mods\EdBPrepareCarefully-1.7.3 (according to your pic) and you should see a subdirectory within it called "EdBPrepareCarefully" (exactly that). Copy that directory and all contentsup one level and delete "EdBPrepareCarefully-1.7.3", and re-activate the mod. Do the same for 'EdBInterface-2.6.5".
The red flag is when you look at the mod info and you see "Author: Anonymous", because the mod loader does not see the About subdirectory and its contents 1 level down.
e: In general, mod creators package their mods to be unpacked with "Extract here" rather than into a specific subdirectory.
Also you can (regardless if you have rar or not) can drag a drop the subfolder into mods
Quote from: Kaballah on April 04, 2015, 08:13:25 PM
You did something I just did with another mod, you unpacked the zip into a subdirectory, that's all. Look in Mods\EdBPrepareCarefully-1.7.3 (according to your pic) and you should see a subdirectory within it called "EdBPrepareCarefully" (exactly that). Copy that directory and all contentsup one level and delete "EdBPrepareCarefully-1.7.3", and re-activate the mod. Do the same for 'EdBInterface-2.6.5".
The red flag is when you look at the mod info and you see "Author: Anonymous", because the mod loader does not see the About subdirectory and its contents 1 level down.
e: In general, mod creators package their mods to be unpacked with "Extract here" rather than into a specific subdirectory.
Quote from: Dragoon on April 04, 2015, 08:19:19 PM
Also you can (regardless if you have rar or not) can drag a drop the subfolder into mods
Thanks for the help guys, that did it right there. I actually thought I had undone all the subfolders, but it seems I was mistaken.
Is it possible to change the body type, it seems tied to the adult backstory choice?
Quote from: eberkain on April 06, 2015, 07:25:41 PM
Is it possible to change the body type, it seems tied to the adult backstory choice?
no you are stuck with whatever body type the back story has (I feel your pain but there are certain things that can't be changed).
Why i it certain back storys aren't blocked form each other?
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The last couple games I played I used Prepare Carefully to setup a group of escaped slaves, 5 people less than 20 years old of various childhood backgrounds, all with deep space miner as an adult profession. Had a lot of fun with it, and was wondering if you have done something similar, what was the theme? Its hard as hell to get 5 people into the points, I ended up dropping with almost no supplies, just some nutrient paste meals and a couple survival rifles.
Great mod! Can't wait to see it updated for A10!
The best mod! This is the one I always get again for a new release.
Hope it will be updated soon
Struggling to connect to the characters without the edit to personalise them.
Same here :D Actually can't really play atm. A9 seems weirdly buggy (probably because they use the same folder for savegames and config like A10) now. And A10 is virtually unplayable for me without PrepareCarefully....
EdB! *begs*
Quote from: cy-one on April 16, 2015, 09:44:01 AM
(probably because they use the same folder for savegames and config like A10)
Where is the savegames and config folder for rimworld? This probably explains why, after trying A10, and then going back to A9, my whole screen turned into white rain, lol.
~your-user-folder\AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld
At least for windows, of course ;)
Awesome. Thank you!
Waiting For Alpha 10 ;D
-sits and waits for alpha 10 version-
I translated the Mod in German,but I dont know if i can copy the file for the Alpha 10 version. Do anyone know if i can just copy and paste the file?
And Guys sorry for my english. I know it isent the best. ;D
I literally can't play this game without this mod... it's just too painful. Please hurry with the new version
Yeah, this mod has spoiled me.
Though i really think the game should have something like this to begin with.
Random rolling is so frustrating.
You know. This is the mod I sit on. Every time an update comes out I think to myself...eh...I can wait a week for my preferred mods. After all I'm a guy who likes to be thorough. I prefer to PREPARE CAREFULLY.
Seriously though. This is a good mod. I'm eager for the alpha 10 update.
All the first forum posters coming out of the woodwork for this mod, I figured I should chime in as well. Please for mod, spend more time rolling the perfect meat for landing.
Quote from: kremlinkev on April 16, 2015, 07:12:17 PM
All the first forum posters coming out of the woodwork for this mod, I figured I should chime in as well.
I might as well too.
Quote from: Geozo on April 16, 2015, 07:09:51 PM
You know. This is the mod I sit on. Every time an update comes out I think to myself...eh...I can wait a week for my preferred mods. After all I'm a guy who likes to be thorough. I prefer to PREPARE CAREFULLY.
Seriously though. This is a good mod. I'm eager for the alpha 10 update.
Same. I tried playing without this mod, and I just... can't.
I forgot about how much I used this mod, please update it soon.
Anybody try version 9 with Alpha 10?
Just rolled a depressive, trigger-happy psychopath...
You've done it, EdB. Congratulations. You've made your mod an essential.
I'm now dependent on this mod and just can't play a10 without it. It just feels different.
--Which is why I'll stay with a9 until this and some other mods are updated.
Quote from: Akyla on April 17, 2015, 05:15:29 AM
Anybody try version 9 with Alpha 10?
Tried it. The button didn't show up.
I'm enjoying A10 at least in the mean time. At any rate, can't wait for this to update!!!! 8)
Sure alpha 10 is fun, but man it is frustrating spending so much time trying to get a decent landing party just to see the map sucks (I enjoy Tundra biome) and have to start over. This mod allows you to cut once, and just launch right into the game.
I'm really new around here. I don't know whether it's annoying to have all these people saying "I love this mod and can't wait for an alpha 10 version" or whether it's nice to hear that.
I hope it's nice, cause I love this mod and can't wait for an alpha 10 version.
Just a quick update. I have started working on the Alpha 10 updates for my mods. I expect to have a first release sometime this weekend for Prepare Carefully, after which I'll start looking at the Interface mod.
Quote from: EdB on April 17, 2015, 08:30:18 PM
Just a quick update. I have started working on the Alpha 10 updates for my mods. I expect to have a first release sometime this weekend for Prepare Carefully, after which I'll start looking at the Interface mod.
Thanks for the update! I haven't read the earlier pages, did you already know your work had reached should-have-been-core status?
Quote from: EdB on April 17, 2015, 08:30:18 PM
Just a quick update. I have started working on the Alpha 10 updates for my mods. I expect to have a first release sometime this weekend for Prepare Carefully, after which I'll start looking at the Interface mod.
That is absolutely magnificent news. Thank you so much for being willing to put in the time. I know you don't get paid for this or anything. I bet you don't get as much appreciation as you deserve for having written such great mods.
Don't mind me just refreshing this page every 5 minutes, I literally cannot play without this awesome mod. Keep up the great work one day I hope this gets added to the core game.
I've released a new version of Prepare Carefully, updated to work with Alpha 10. Check the original post for download links.
No significant changes besides making it work with the new alpha. I did tweak the way that points are calculated again, and I changed the starting resources to no longer be random.
EDIT: Please keep in mind that the first one or two releases for a new alpha are often buggy. Please let me know if you run into any issues.
Thank you so much!
I downloaded the patch, when i select "prepare carefully" the interface disappears, and all I can see is the background image. I waited a few minutes, but nothing loaded.
Seems to be incompatible with Tools for haul (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=12282.0)
When i hit the "prepare carefully" button, I get this error.
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I think I've found a bug. It's got to do with choosing a "head type" in the Prepare Carefully interface. Starting from a fresh install of alpha 10c with only Prepare Carefully added, I first created a new world with a random seed, then started a new colony choosing Cassandra with the first difficulty option, "Free play." (This happens regardless of which storyteller and difficulty I choose.) I then picked a site at random and brought up Prepare Carefully. By default, the toggle button on the left was set to "Hair." I changed it to "Head type," at which point the option choice below the portrait changed to "Average, pointy." I clicked one of the arrows to change to a different head type and got an argument out of range exception.
Here's my complete Unity player log showing the argument out of range exception and the stack trace: http://pastebin.com/6tas0bQu (http://pastebin.com/6tas0bQu)
At this point I'm able to back out of Prepare Carefully without any problems and bring it up again. As long as I don't try to change the head type it seems to work fine. So this is a work-aroundable problem as far as I'm concerned, but I thought you'd like to know about it.
Hey, well done, thanks for the update!
Quote from: rimtrooper on April 18, 2015, 08:30:26 PM
Seems to be incompatible with Tools for haul (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=12282.0)
When i hit the "prepare carefully" button, I get this error.
I'm going to wait for some additional bug reports to come in before doing another release, but I do have a fix for this and will include it in the next release.
Quote from: jefferyharrell on April 18, 2015, 08:50:40 PM
I think I've found a bug. It's got to do with choosing a "head type" in the Prepare Carefully interface. Starting from a fresh install of alpha 10c with only Prepare Carefully added, I first created a new world with a random seed, then started a new colony choosing Cassandra with the first difficulty option, "Free play." (This happens regardless of which storyteller and difficulty I choose.) I then picked a site at random and brought up Prepare Carefully. By default, the toggle button on the left was set to "Hair." I changed it to "Head type," at which point the option choice below the portrait changed to "Average, pointy." I clicked one of the arrows to change to a different head type and got an argument out of range exception.
Here's my complete Unity player log showing the argument out of range exception and the stack trace: http://pastebin.com/6tas0bQu (http://pastebin.com/6tas0bQu)
At this point I'm able to back out of Prepare Carefully without any problems and bring it up again. As long as I don't try to change the head type it seems to work fine. So this is a work-aroundable problem as far as I'm concerned, but I thought you'd like to know about it.
I did not test that specifically before doing the release, and I am seeing the same issue that you're describing. I will work on a fix. Thanks for the bug report!
Quote from: EdB on April 18, 2015, 09:01:58 PM
I will work on a fix. Thanks for the bug report!
Sure thing. Let me know if I can be of any more help.
When trying to delete a colonist preset, it doesn't appear to work, but then when you hit 'close' or attempt to overwrite (anything that closes that dialog) all of the delete confirmation dialogs then pop up as if they were queued, and when you 'confirm' on all of them the deletes are completed.
Quote from: Kaballah on April 18, 2015, 09:50:44 PM
When trying to delete a colonist preset, it doesn't appear to work, but then when you hit 'close' or attempt to overwrite (anything that closes that dialog) all of the delete confirmation dialogs then pop up as if they were queued, and when you 'confirm' on all of them the deletes are completed.
Thanks for the bug report. The confirmation dialogs are popping up behind the load/save colonist dialog instead of on top of it. I will fix this.
Hey, for me Tools for Haul v1.0 doesn't work with this, not sure if its a problem with my game but I reinstalled multiple times and still wont load the EdB Prepare Carefully interface with Tools for Haul v1.0 installed.
I love this mod so much! I can make me and mt friends and then watch as we all die! I never make them OP of course, just 5 in everything :) ;D
Quote from: EdB on April 18, 2015, 09:54:36 PM
Thanks for the bug report. The confirmation dialogs are popping up behind the load/save colonist dialog instead of on top of it. I will fix this.
Note that the same problem occurs for both colonist preset, and embark preset, fyi.
I've released a new version, 1.8.2, that fixes the bugs that have been reported so far. Thanks again for all of the feedback!
Thank you soooo much for the 10A release, the game just didn't feel the same without my custom team.
I can't play rimworld without this mod, thanks so much!
Edb any chance the BuildEquipmentLists() could have its ordering changed to find weapons first, i think im the only one doing this currently but ive made weapons stuff, this means they get discovered as resources first and are not put into the weapons tab. I can see this happening more in the future and I dont see a downside to switching the ordering around infact it makes more sense to find the main purpose of an item before classing it as a resource as the final fallback. This is only a quality of life request so not important by any means and you may know of a reason this isnt possible. Let me know if i didnt take something into account.
Giving everyone the "cannibal" trait really helps surviving in those arctic biomes.
What? Stop looking at me like that.
Yeah it's absolutely possible to survive just off of invader meat and never farm, although you might have to ambush a group of friendlies at the very start.
Thanks EdB! Been waiting for this, yours is truly an essential mod! Thanks again!
Yay! All hail EdB!
thank god this us updated... I can play the game again...
Quote from: robsypes on April 19, 2015, 11:48:13 AM
thank god this us updated... I can play the game again...
Same here, now I can take a look at A10 XD
Thanks EdB!
Hopefully you don't mind the appreciation spam in this thread, because your mods are great, thanks a lot!
Just a quick note to say that 1.8.2 definitely fixed that bug I reported about changing the head type. Which I'm sure you already knew, but I just wanted to say since I brought it up.
Thanks a million.
Quote from: skullywag on April 19, 2015, 03:33:19 AM
Edb any chance the BuildEquipmentLists() could have its ordering changed to find weapons first, i think im the only one doing this currently but ive made weapons stuff, this means they get discovered as resources first and are not put into the weapons tab. I can see this happening more in the future and I dont see a downside to switching the ordering around infact it makes more sense to find the main purpose of an item before classing it as a resource as the final fallback. This is only a quality of life request so not important by any means and you may know of a reason this isnt possible. Let me know if i didnt take something into account.
I probably will wait a day or two to see if any other bugs pop up, but I will include a fix for this with the next release.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. My thanks to you. :)
Huzzah to EdB for the update. :)
THANK YOU SO VEEERRYYYY MUCH!!! :)
Im having major issues with naming my colonists the name fields are royally messed up...anyone else having this?
Quote from: skullywag on April 19, 2015, 03:37:46 PM
Im having major issues with naming my colonists the name fields are royally messed up...anyone else having this?
Messed up in the sense that, sometimes, you can only type in a certain amount of letters before the cursor changes place on you?
If so, then yes. I had that problem in A9, but I've yet to experience it in A10.
Quote from: skullywag on April 19, 2015, 03:37:46 PM
Im having major issues with naming my colonists the name fields are royally messed up...anyone else having this?
I'm not seeing a cursor when I click in the text field, so yes, something is not right. I've found that the text field widgets in the vanilla game have a tendency to behave strangely if you're not careful with how you include them in your code. I'll work on a fix.
the middle field only allows you to type as many letters as is in the right field and the other behave similarly with each other...its very random..i managed to get what i wanted by making the right field long then doing the middle then the first and finally deleting the unwanted text from the right i used to make it long....only bug ive seen so far.
I seem to have an issue where my colonists aren't taking the last 2 skin colors on the right side, (brownish and black), their bodies are correct when they land, but their heads are default white
While you are working on it, is it possible to rework the UI by which you get resources. Currently if you want, say, 300 units of wood, you have to click the 'increase' button 300 times. Its fine for changing small stuff like weapons, clothes, medicine etc but for resources its ridiculous. I don't know if you could implement the UI similar to how trade works, i.e. the further you drag the faster it adds to your amount. Or make the button a toggle i.e. you hold down the mouse button and it keeps adding it.
Cheers though, this is my one and only essential mod (although the interface one is also great)
Quote from: bills6693 on April 20, 2015, 10:23:42 AM
While you are working on it, is it possible to rework the UI by which you get resources. Currently if you want, say, 300 units of wood, you have to click the 'increase' button 300 times. Its fine for changing small stuff like weapons, clothes, medicine etc but for resources its ridiculous. I don't know if you could implement the UI similar to how trade works, i.e. the further you drag the faster it adds to your amount. Or make the button a toggle i.e. you hold down the mouse button and it keeps adding it.
What you describe is actually how it should be working now. Try clicking and dragging on the number to increase the amounts more quickly. You can also hold down the shift key when clicking the arrows to increase the amount by 10 instead of 1. If you hold down the shift key while dragging it will make the amounts increase even more rapidly.
Quote from: Darcclan on April 20, 2015, 02:09:33 AM
I seem to have an issue where my colonists aren't taking the last 2 skin colors on the right side, (brownish and black), their bodies are correct when they land, but their heads are default white
Are you using 1.8.2? I had that problem but it went away when I installed 1.8.2.
I've done another bug-fix release, 1.8.3.
Quote from: skullywag on April 19, 2015, 03:37:46 PM
Im having major issues with naming my colonists the name fields are royally messed up...anyone else having this?
I think this is fixed now. I'm not seeing the issues that I was seeing before with the focus and cursor being messed up with the text fields, but I'm not sure that the problem I was seeing matched what was being described. Let me know if this does not fix the issue.
Quote from: skullywag on April 19, 2015, 03:33:19 AM
Edb any chance the BuildEquipmentLists() could have its ordering changed to find weapons first, i think im the only one doing this currently but ive made weapons stuff, this means they get discovered as resources first and are not put into the weapons tab.
I've made this change so those weapons should be showing up in the right place now.
Wooooo. Will test at lunchtime.
I don't know if it's possible or not, but you've done UI mods.. so maybe. But would you be able to make a main menu option that allows you to customize colonists? Like a 'Colonist Builder' button so you can make them and then save them to make it easier than starting new colony, picking your storyteller, waiting for the map to load, clicking a thing, clicking another thing and then going from there? It's a laziness modification, yes, but it could be good for convenience.
Quote from: skullywag on April 19, 2015, 03:37:46 PM
Im having major issues with naming my colonists the name fields are royally messed up...anyone else having this?
Been having that since Alpha 6. Thought that was a core game bug.
Also like everyone else, I can't play a new Alpha until I get this mod.
Found a small bug, it seems that prepare carefully does not support "Accessory" Layer of apparel from the Apparello mod and on a very rare occasion will cause the character screen to to go blank being unable to continue until restart.
This is one of those mods that bring over essential Dwarf Fortress features and should really be included in the base game. Excellent mod, good work OP.
Asking in advance, and I know this is a very situational thing, but what would you estimate would be the amount of time for this mod to be updated for alpha 11 once it's here? A rough estimate works from past experience, few days or a week?
Quote from: deadlydullahan on May 27, 2015, 09:49:38 PM
Asking in advance, and I know this is a very situational thing, but what would you estimate would be the amount of time for this mod to be updated for alpha 11 once it's here? A rough estimate works from past experience, few days or a week?
Alpha 11 already? *looks at mod list and all the things needing updates and runs away screaming*
Adding once again how great this mod is!
Any possibility of incorporating a random starting location option in this? Or as a separate mod? Was my favorite feature of the scenarios mod.
Quote from: deadlydullahan on May 27, 2015, 09:49:38 PM
Asking in advance, and I know this is a very situational thing, but what would you estimate would be the amount of time for this mod to be updated for alpha 11 once it's here? A rough estimate works from past experience, few days or a week?
It's usually available within a week of any given alpha release. I upgrade Prepare Carefully before doing the Interface mod, so sometimes it only takes a few days.
Hi! I have a few questions related to injuries at character creation, using Prepare Carefully.
1. Is it possible to view beforehand what injuries a colonist would have? With the standard system we can see this, but I couldn't find anything when using PC.
2. If it is possible, is it possible to change it, other than to outright disable age injuries?
3. Does changing the age of the colonist prevent age-related injuries from spawning?
Thing is, right now, I play with not being allowed to reroll, and only being allowed to change a few specific things (changing one skill and either rerolling a single trait or lowering the age by 10 years) but people tend to be pretty heavy on the injuries anyway (just started a character lowered from 65 to 55, and he started frail with bad back and cataracts in both eyes).
It would be nice to see beforehand what injuries are to be expected, as it's pretty gamechanging (as the above example, having my only gunner and miner go to 40% speed, 56% manipulation and 30% sight is a preeeetty big deal).
Thanks a lot for any help!
On the character portrait there's a button to view the different kinds of clothing layers, and an option to view the health of each bodypart. You can configure everything health related there.
The age of the colonists plays a role for cataracts, frail and bad back, AFAIK. However, if you roll an old colonist, then lower its age, I doubt the generated health issues would be removed automatically.
Thanks for the feedback! This (http://i.imgur.com/nWqrL3Z.png) is how the window looks for me - I can see the individual body parts, but I don't know where to look for their health status; the arrows only seem to change between normal/artifical/bionic/whatever, not injury status.
It's good to know about age though. I'll make sure never to make my older people into stuff that requires sight/movement much then such as doctor or gunner. I'm fairly certain cataracts are also a consequence of age, as I've never seen a young character with them and in real life they mostly affect people in their older days.
Uncheck the box "generate old injuries" :D
Yes, I know I can uncheck the button for generating old age injuries. That much is very obvious. However, I'm interested in looking at individual injuries and knowing about them beforehand, not just skipping generating them completely. It also only deals with old-age injuries, while I'd be interested in looking at other injuries too (scars etc).
Quote from: sajberhippien on May 28, 2015, 03:02:02 PM
1. Is it possible to view beforehand what injuries a colonist would have? With the standard system we can see this, but I couldn't find anything when using PC.
2. If it is possible, is it possible to change it, other than to outright disable age injuries?
3. Does changing the age of the colonist prevent age-related injuries from spawning?
The way it works now in the mod, injuries are not generated ahead of time. They are generated when your colonists spawn on the map. I think that I'm just using the standard injury generation, so changing the age of the colonists should prevent age-related injuries from spawning. Unless I'm doing something wrong, that's how it should be working.
My original thought was that the UI for adding bionic parts would include full health options, including injuries. When I actually started implementing it, it started to get too complex, so I decided to limit it to just what's there now. At that time, there was no way to see injuries in the standard character generation UI, so it made more sense to make that choice. It's possible that I could add injury options in the future, but I don't have any plans to do so right now.
Would there be a way to add tooltips for equipment? That way when I'm perusing stuff from mods I know what stats everything has.
Quote from: DorgoDorato on June 05, 2015, 01:57:27 PM
Would there be a way to add tooltips for equipment? That way when I'm perusing stuff from mods I know what stats everything has.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of stats to show in a tooltip for some items--and not many stats at all for others. Generating the text for the tooltip is a more complex task than I'd like to take on. You can right-click the item and select the "Information..." option to bring up all of the stats. Not as convenient as a tooltip, but the information is accessible.
I sometimes feel the information tab doesn't show all the offsets.. or that it's too deep/ too many mouseclicks in to conveniently read.
I prefer to alt-tab into my open mod folder in sublime and just search for the item in question.
ps - I wish we could hotkey the information button!
Quoteps - I wish we could hotkey the information button!
I also wish this was possible in vanilla or a mod!
Rimworld alpha is* currently* not* very keyboard friendly, but I'm sure the beta will be much more so.
Not worried atm :)
* Wth, I ate up words completely.
Quick question, where are presets saved? I want to bring the presets I have created over to another PC.
Quote from: Mido on June 08, 2015, 08:03:20 PM
Quick question, where are presets saved? I want to bring the presets I have created over to another PC.
By default, on a Windows machine, they are saved in a "PrepareCarefully" directory under the same directory where other RimWorld settings and save game data are stored:
C:\Users\{your username}\AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld\PrepareCarefully
The presets for individual colonists have the "pcc" file extension and the presets for a whole group have the "pcp" file extension.
Thanks, and if I might add a suggestion - right now on the resources selection page, if I have 200 steel and I want to increase it to 500, I have to click the little arrow 300 times. That's a lot of clicking...it doesn't seem to respond to clicking and holding the arrow. That would be a nice quality of life improvement right there.
Quote from: Mido on June 10, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
Thanks, and if I might add a suggestion - right now on the resources selection page, if I have 200 steel and I want to increase it to 500, I have to click the little arrow 300 times. That's a lot of clicking...it doesn't seem to respond to clicking and holding the arrow. That would be a nice quality of life improvement right there.
resource selection page? For traders or the production table?
If trades, you can just drag the slider in the direction you want the trade to go in
If production, click on the three dots to come to a sub-options level that lets you increase the qty by 1,25,250.
Not very intuitive, took me time to get the trader method after about 10-15 traders, but I think this has been there since alpha4.
Quote from: Mido on June 10, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
Thanks, and if I might add a suggestion - right now on the resources selection page, if I have 200 steel and I want to increase it to 500, I have to click the little arrow 300 times. That's a lot of clicking...it doesn't seem to respond to clicking and holding the arrow. That would be a nice quality of life improvement right there.
Try clicking and dragging on the number to increase the count more quickly. Hold shift while clicking and dragging to increase the count even more quickly. Hold shift when clicking on the arrows to increase the quantity by 10 instead of by 1.
I've released a new version, 1.9.1, that is compatible with Alpha 11. No new features in this release.
This was by far the easiest time I've had upgrading the mod to a new alpha--it only took a couple of hours. Of course, that probably means that something is broken in there, so be sure to report any bugs that you find.
Quote from: EdB on June 10, 2015, 10:57:18 PM
I've released a new version, 1.9.1, that is compatible with Alpha 11. No new features in this release.
This was by far the easiest time I've had upgrading the mod to a new alpha--it only took a couple of hours. Of course, that probably means that something is broken in there, so be sure to report any bugs that you find.
I'm glad it was easy since I can't wait for the interface mod to update!
Quote from: jega on June 10, 2015, 11:04:10 PM
Quote from: EdB on June 10, 2015, 10:57:18 PM
I've released a new version, 1.9.1, that is compatible with Alpha 11. No new features in this release.
This was by far the easiest time I've had upgrading the mod to a new alpha--it only took a couple of hours. Of course, that probably means that something is broken in there, so be sure to report any bugs that you find.
I'm glad it was easy since I can't wait for the interface mod to update!
I always do Prepare Carefully first just to get an idea of how many changes there are going to be. Unfortunately, the interface mod always takes longer. There's just a lot of tedious work that needs to be done in that mod. It will still probably be a few days before I get a release out.
Well that was quick
In these amazing times let us not forget who helps us cause all this mischief and fun. Let us not forget who busts there ass every patch day to bring us the game we demand. And let us never under appreciate the men and woman, of the modding community.
*QUE MUSIC AND STRIPPERS*
There was no chance I could have played A11 without my super doped starting colonists! :D
Thank you :)
edit - Do my colonists config saves carry forward from A10?
Quote from: nmid on June 11, 2015, 12:17:16 AM
edit - Do my colonists config saves carry forward from A10?
They
should work. The ones that I tested worked fine, but it's possible that there are new or incompatible items that I'm not aware of.
first. thanks for your prompt attention to the alpha change.
It let me create a team that i like but i'm getting the following when i try to save a preset.
i've attached the log but here is a summary
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_SavePreset: System.InvalidOperationException: There is no more open element.
at System.Xml.XmlTextWriter.WriteEndElementCore (Boolean full) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlTextWriter.WriteEndElement () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Scribe.ExitNode () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Scribe.FinalizeWriting () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PresetSaver.SaveToFile (EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully data, System.String presetName) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_SavePreset.DoSpecialSaveLoadGUI (Rect inRect) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Preset.FillWindow (Rect inRect) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Layer_Window.DoWindowContents () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
and then this error when i tested and tried to use the pcp file it created (also attached):
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_LoadPreset: System.Xml.XmlException: unexpected end of file. Current depth is 4 Line 198, position 20.
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.ReadContent () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.ReadContent () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNode (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.Load (System.Xml.XmlReader xmlReader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Scribe.InitLoading (System.String filePath) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PresetLoader.LoadFromFile (EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully loadout, System.String presetName) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
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Quote from: EdB on June 11, 2015, 01:01:27 AM
Quote from: nmid on June 11, 2015, 12:17:16 AM
edit - Do my colonists config saves carry forward from A10?
They should work. The ones that I tested worked fine, but it's possible that there are new or incompatible items that I'm not aware of.
awesome.
Btw, the 1st post needs to be updated, it's still showing as alpha10 :)
Quote from: Dave-In-Texas on June 11, 2015, 01:06:53 AM
first. thanks for your prompt attention to the alpha change.
It let me create a team that i like but i'm getting the following when i try to save a preset.
Thanks for the bug report. Sorry about that. I released a new version, 1.9.2, that fixes this problem.
thank you, kind sir
Quote from: EdB on June 10, 2015, 10:57:18 PM
I've released a new version, 1.9.1, that is compatible with Alpha 11.
Holy shit, that was quick!
EdB <3
Hi EdB,
i was just looking around in the output_log to trace a bug (not related to your mods) when i stumbled over this:
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Verse.ThingIDMaker.GiveIDTo (Verse.Thing t) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Thing.PostMake () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.ThingWithComps.PostMake () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.ThingMaker.MakeThing (Verse.ThingDef def, Verse.ThingDef stuff) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CostCalculator.GetBaseThingCost (Verse.ThingDef def, Verse.ThingDef stuffDef) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.EquipmentDatabase.CreateEquipmentEntry (Verse.ThingDef def, Verse.ThingDef stuffDef, Int32 type) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.EquipmentDatabase.AddThingDef (Verse.ThingDef def, Int32 type) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.EquipmentDatabase.BuildEquipmentLists () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.EquipmentDatabase..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.get_Instance () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ModController.OnLevelWasLoaded (Int32 level) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Steps to reproduce:
1. Create a new colony
2. Save it and close the game
3. Load the save
4. have a look in the output_log (it does not show up in the ingame debug log)
Output_logs can be found in the attachments.
Also:
Thanks for all your great mods :)
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Quote from: Der Failer on June 13, 2015, 10:47:04 AM
i was just looking around in the output_log to trace a bug (not related to your mods) when i stumbled over this:
Thanks for the bug report. I've released a new version, 1.9.3, that fixes this problem.
i translated "NEED TRANSLATION" section for russian version. maybe it help
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Is there anywhere where we can share presets or colonists? I always struggle to decide what colonists to use.
It would be nice to be able to get some pre-made "medic", "cook", "farmer" colonists that can just be tweaked.
yea.. I'm looking forward to someone more creative, making a firefly/serenity team.
Love this so damn much! thank you so much for all your work and effort! sorry to ask though, is there a way to add more than 10 colonists to start with? i know it may be asking for a bit much, but i'd really like to start the game with a bunch of people i know. i'd probably even start recording the whole play through. haha!
Quote from: DirtyDusty on June 20, 2015, 10:54:41 AM
Love this so damn much! thank you so much for all your work and effort! sorry to ask though, is there a way to add more than 10 colonists to start with? i know it may be asking for a bit much, but i'd really like to start the game with a bunch of people i know. i'd probably even start recording the whole play through. haha!
10 people is a bit much for the balance of the game. ;D
Though it would make the first few days quite interesting,
i'll watch a play through of that for sure!
Quote from: DirtyDusty on June 20, 2015, 10:54:41 AM
is there a way to add more than 10 colonists to start with?
The issue with adding more than ten colonists is that I would need to rework the tab UI at the top. As you add more colonists, there is less and less space for each colonist name. I can look at it again, but I'm not sure that I'll be making any changes.
The Dropbox you have for the newest version of the mod doesn't seem to work.
The Download button is grayed out and we're unable to actually download anything without it.
Anyone else seeing that or is it just me?
Understood, although i think that i should bring to your attention that Ive cheekily found a way around it, ive saved a group of people, gone into your EdB Prepare Carefully file in App Data, opened up my saved group, copied and pasted the pawn data, overridden the save and opened it again in game. I mean, it works, the tabs are functional, if not a bit small, which i see as no problem. Its just that when i try to start the game, a message pops up at the top left of the screen stating that "You cannot have more than 10 colonists."
Quote from: Demonlord091 on June 20, 2015, 10:37:27 PM
The Dropbox you have for the newest version of the mod doesn't seem to work.
The Download button is grayed out and we're unable to actually download anything without it.
Anyone else seeing that or is it just me?
I believe i got around it by mashing the button.
Try clicking it 2 or 3 times.
Worked when i just tried.
Quote from: Avsnoopy on June 21, 2015, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: Demonlord091 on June 20, 2015, 10:37:27 PM
The Dropbox you have for the newest version of the mod doesn't seem to work.
The Download button is grayed out and we're unable to actually download anything without it.
Anyone else seeing that or is it just me?
I believe i got around it by mashing the button.
Try clicking it 2 or 3 times.
Worked when i just tried.
Even though the button appears grayed out, clicking on it should still trigger the download. I know the Dropbox prompt to create an account is a little annoying, but I personally prefer it the ad-driven download sites.
As an alternative, I always add the mod to the original post as an attachment--you'll find the link at the bottom of the message. You do need to be logged in to the forums to see that link.
For some reason, the attachment link for the mod was removed for a little while--I must have forgotten to update it with the latest version. I have fixed it, and it should be available again.
This is seriously my favorite mod for Rimworld. I hope Tynan adds it to the offical release at some point. Great work!
Please add a way to put in a number of an item your getting, other wise it can take hundreds of clicks to put in how many you want.
For Example I want to take with me lots of cloth, 300 or so I will need to click 300 times to put it in.
Quote from: Anonemous2 on June 22, 2015, 10:47:37 AM
Please add a way to put in a number of an item your getting, other wise it can take hundreds of clicks to put in how many you want.
For Example I want to take with me lots of cloth, 300 or so I will need to click 300 times to put it in.
You can click the 'number' between the increase and decrease arrows and drag the mouse towards which ever you want to do and it will rapidly increase or decrease depending on which side you drag the cursor after words.
Quote from: Beathrus on June 22, 2015, 10:57:37 AM
Quote from: Anonemous2 on June 22, 2015, 10:47:37 AM
Please add a way to put in a number of an item your getting, other wise it can take hundreds of clicks to put in how many you want.
For Example I want to take with me lots of cloth, 300 or so I will need to click 300 times to put it in.
You can click the 'number' between the increase and decrease arrows and drag the mouse towards which ever you want to do and it will rapidly increase or decrease depending on which side you drag the cursor after words.
Thanks That makes life a lot easier.
Quote from: Anonemous2 on June 22, 2015, 11:25:45 AM
Quote from: Beathrus on June 22, 2015, 10:57:37 AM
Quote from: Anonemous2 on June 22, 2015, 10:47:37 AM
Please add a way to put in a number of an item your getting, other wise it can take hundreds of clicks to put in how many you want.
For Example I want to take with me lots of cloth, 300 or so I will need to click 300 times to put it in.
You can click the 'number' between the increase and decrease arrows and drag the mouse towards which ever you want to do and it will rapidly increase or decrease depending on which side you drag the cursor after words.
Thanks That makes life a lot easier.
Welcome, it works on traders too! Or any thing that has an incriminate and the 'choose number' thing like that.
So.... My character has a melee level of 40..... is that supposed to happen?
Is that intended to happen?
screenshot (https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8ijwgkkjzdrum4/screenshot2.png?dl=0)
Quote from: RulerBrendan on June 23, 2015, 12:48:30 AM
So.... My character has a melee level of 40..... is that supposed to happen?
No it's not, but it's happen to me when a character I saved in a earlier alpha (who is already a level 20) was loaded in the newest alpha.
Quote from: EdB on June 21, 2015, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: Avsnoopy on June 21, 2015, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: Demonlord091 on June 20, 2015, 10:37:27 PM
The Dropbox you have for the newest version of the mod doesn't seem to work.
The Download button is grayed out and we're unable to actually download anything without it.
Anyone else seeing that or is it just me?
I believe i got around it by mashing the button.
Try clicking it 2 or 3 times.
Worked when i just tried.
Even though the button appears grayed out, clicking on it should still trigger the download. I know the Dropbox prompt to create an account is a little annoying, but I personally prefer it the ad-driven download sites.
As an alternative, I always add the mod to the original post as an attachment--you'll find the link at the bottom of the message. You do need to be logged in to the forums to see that link.
For some reason, the attachment link for the mod was removed for a little while--I must have forgotten to update it with the latest version. I have fixed it, and it should be available again.
Unfortunately "mashing the Download button" on Dropbox does not seem to work for me, though I don't intend to spend an hour sitting here trying to stab the thing until it works.
I can certainly understand your dislike of ad-driven sites after downloading so many mods from Mediafire, but maybe the Nexus would be a slightly lesser evil. At least that site doesn't have pop-up ads or get randomly blocked by antivirus software. It does require an account for some things, but these mods are usually simple to install so users likely won't need one.
In the end the choice is yours. As long as we can download your amazing mods from somewhere I'll be more or less content with it.
Keep up the good work.
Quote from: RulerBrendan on June 23, 2015, 12:48:30 AM
So.... My character has a melee level of 40..... is that supposed to happen?
I've seen that happen once or twice. Obviously, it's a bug, but it's a difficult to reproduce it--which means it's difficult to fix.
Quote from: blub01 on June 25, 2015, 04:30:25 PM
Is that intended to happen?
screenshot (https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8ijwgkkjzdrum4/screenshot2.png?dl=0)
I'm sorry, but it's not clear to me what you're pointing out. What's wrong with that colonist?
Quote from: Demonlord091 on June 25, 2015, 09:33:51 PM
I can certainly understand your dislike of ad-driven sites after downloading so many mods from Mediafire, but maybe the Nexus would be a slightly lesser evil. At least that site doesn't have pop-up ads or get randomly blocked by antivirus software. It does require an account for some things, but these mods are usually simple to install so users likely won't need one.
In the end the choice is yours. As long as we can download your amazing mods from somewhere I'll be more or less content with it.
As an alternative, I'll probably continue to just attach the mod to the original post. I started doing this in response to a couple of people who had trouble downloading from Dropbox, and it seems like a good alternative. The only downside is that you need a forums account.
What do you think about this mod coming with pre-generated parties for various challenge levels and/or scenerios to load for a quick start?
Hopefully this is the right spot for this. I just loaded the Ultimate Overhaul Pack, following its instructions properly and all that. Made a new world and then launched Prepare Carefully and now... when I edit a new colonist their hairstyle doesn't show up.
Oddly enough, if I load a colonist I made before the hair preview works just fine. Perhaps you fine citizens can point me in the way of a solution to my woes?
Quote from: foopex on June 26, 2015, 09:47:56 AM
What do you think about this mod coming with pre-generated parties for various challenge levels and/or scenerios to load for a quick start?
Yup.. some courageous ppl are thinking about doing it..:p
Quote from: nmid on June 20, 2015, 08:55:34 AM
yea.. I'm looking forward to someone more creative, making a firefly/serenity team.
Quote from: Devon_v on June 23, 2015, 04:52:40 PMI'm also (slowly) working on a Firefly pack which was requested.
Quote from: nmid on June 23, 2015, 05:15:29 PM
/drooool
;D
Quote from: Devon_v on June 24, 2015, 08:27:58 PM
Psychic Drone + River = colony over, just so you know. ;P
Quote from: nmid on June 25, 2015, 03:41:26 AM
haha, hopefully in A13, we'll have interpersonal relations enabled ::)
Simon will then be able to calm her down :)
Send Devon_v (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=39340) a message bugg... requesting him to post a starting version :D
Quote from: EdB on June 26, 2015, 01:30:06 AM
Quote from: blub01 on June 25, 2015, 04:30:25 PM
Is that intended to happen?
screenshot (https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8ijwgkkjzdrum4/screenshot2.png?dl=0)
I didn't notice that the points were in one pool for all the colonists, so i was confused when i could get 4 stats to level 20 for one colonist. but i think there still are quite a lot of points, i managed to create 3 starter colonists which had each 1 or 2 stats at level 20, allowing me to go through the tech tree at insane speeds, not need any medicine at all, and be able to create huge builds in a matter of days.
I'm sorry, but it's not clear to me what you're pointing out. What's wrong with that colonist?
Quote from: blub01 on June 28, 2015, 01:58:01 PM
Quote from: EdB on June 26, 2015, 01:30:06 AM
Quote from: blub01 on June 25, 2015, 04:30:25 PM
Is that intended to happen?
screenshot (https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8ijwgkkjzdrum4/screenshot2.png?dl=0)
I'm sorry, but it's not clear to me what you're pointing out. What's wrong with that colonist?
I didn't notice that the points were in one pool for all the colonists, so i was confused when i could get 4 stats to level 20 for one colonist. but i think there still are quite a lot of points, i managed to create 3 starter colonists which had each 1 or 2 stats at level 20, allowing me to go through the tech tree at insane speeds, not need any medicine at all, and be able to create huge builds in a matter of days.
The quote function doesn't sit right in the view window and leads to the actual reply going inside a quote, because of the gap looking as if empty space to start writing the reply...
Wish the forum would automatically place the reply at the end of the quote.
Hi, can someone explain me why there is 2 age number in prepare carefully ?
like : Jude age 27-453
it is age of birth / death ? But i dont think so it look a bit strange to know the age of death
it is a random age between both?
Thanks for your answer
Quote from: r4ky on June 29, 2015, 03:24:39 PM
Hi, can someone explain me why there is 2 age number in prepare carefully ?
like : Jude age 27-453
it is age of birth / death ? But i dont think so it look a bit strange to know the age of death
it is a random age between both?
Thanks for your answer
Actual age and chronological age. So i can have a character who's body only aged 29 years but has slept in a chrono casket for thousands. It's sci-fi stuff.
Great mod! Only thing missing, in my own personal opinion, would be the ability to change the quality of the weapons/apparel. A must-have mod for any of my colonies, though.
Edit: Looking back, another good idea would be to have the description appear when you hover over things in the resources and equipment! That or some sort of stats, as this would make preparation even easier.
This locks my game when trying to load on Alpha 11b, build 857.
Because it's obviously not up to date man. Be patient plz ;)
The A11B just pop in. Either you play Vanilla some time or you stay on A11 a bit if you absolutely need mods :p
I know, I'm not complaining, just notifying. All the other mods I have loaded work fine in 11b that worked in 11, except the two EDB mods.
Quote from: dopestar667 on July 04, 2015, 02:16:10 AM
I know, I'm not complaining, just notifying. All the other mods I have loaded work fine in 11b that worked in 11, except the two EDB mods.
The EdB mods work a little differently than a lot of other mods--they modify or override specific code from the vanilla game. When that vanilla game code changes with a new build, that causes the incompatibility. You can expect an 11b release within the next day.
I once suggested this before, but I'll go ahead and do it again, using the same image I used before. :P However, I'd like to also suggest a preview that shows you what year your character was born in when you change the alternate date, the one that can go into the thousands. I was trying to set it so that they appear to have gone into cryostasis in the year 2015. Also, I'd like to be able to type in that slot rather than wait 5 minutes for it to get all the way to the number I want. :P
Oh yea, lets not forget the ability to set the day of the month and the month your birthday is on. :P
The other thing, is points per character, points in stock not counting against you, allowing you to go over the point amounts and start the game anyway "Are you sure you wish to start? You have used more points than you have.", color code it a bit too.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30270697/tempimages/prepcarepoints2.png)
you can set your birth day by right clicking on your age vas
Quote from: EdB on July 04, 2015, 04:06:38 AM
Quote from: dopestar667 on July 04, 2015, 02:16:10 AM
I know, I'm not complaining, just notifying. All the other mods I have loaded work fine in 11b that worked in 11, except the two EDB mods.
The EdB mods work a little differently than a lot of other mods--they modify or override specific code from the vanilla game. When that vanilla game code changes with a new build, that causes the incompatibility. You can expect an 11b release within the next day.
You're awesome, thank you!
Quote from: mokonasakura on July 04, 2015, 05:36:08 AM
you can set your birth day by right clicking on your age vas
Oh right, well my other points remain.
I also found that hovering over a specific spot shows the points per colonist, I just hoped I wouldn't have to hover over that each change I make.
Quote from: EdB on July 04, 2015, 04:06:38 AM
You can expect an 11b release within the next day.
The Interface and Mod Order mods are now available for 11b, but there were some changes in Alpha 11b to the way that the market value for colonists is computed. This impacts the way that the point values are computed in Prepare Carefully which means that I need to take a balancing pass on those calculations. Balancing is difficult, and I hate doing it, so it's going to take me a little bit longer to finish. It should still be released sometime today.
I hope it comes soon! Until then, I'm just glad I haven't deleted regular eleven yet!
Thanks so much for getting this updated so quickly! BEST MOD EVER! <3
I've released a new version, 1.9.4, that is compatible with the Alpha 11b release of the game. I've also added a French-language translation (thanks to kaptain_kavern!) and a Ukrainian-language translation (thanks to Rascher!)
The point system was adjusted a bit to match changes in the game. You may notice that the point values of presets that you saved in earlier versions do not match the values in this version. Unfortunately, this cannot be avoided.
Please let me know if you see any new bugs or issues.
And now all the mods I love are up to date! Time to waste spend my weekend building my colony!
I absolutely LOVE the Prepare Carefully mod. It allows me to start the story the way that I want. Now that its working in release 11B I'm overjoyed.
However, I do seem to have a problem with Naming My characters. The name boxes don't seem to work based on where the cursor is pointing. And for some bizarre reason typing in a last name of MacDonald seems to always results in a last name of MacDonadl. I was sure that it was my typing but I tried it three times with the same result.
Also, any way to allow typing in max and min ages? The clicking becomes a lot when I want to bring the max age down from 952 years to something less Methuselahan.
That's a vanilla problem, sorry! It happens all the time with me, particularly 2ith an x in the name.
Quote from: Havan_IronOak on July 05, 2015, 06:55:23 AM
I do seem to have a problem with Naming My characters. The name boxes don't seem to work based on where the cursor is pointing. And for some bizarre reason typing in a last name of MacDonald seems to always results in a last name of MacDonadl. I was sure that it was my typing but I tried it three times with the same result.
Also, any way to allow typing in max and min ages? The clicking becomes a lot when I want to bring the max age down from 952 years to something less Methuselahan.
I wish I could figure out what was going on with the text input widget. I'm using the UI code from the vanilla game for text input, but it seems like it sometimes just will not work properly. I never know if it's a random problem in the vanilla game or if it's something that I'm doing wrong. I've tried a handful of times to fix it, but no success. Sometimes it works right, sometimes it doesn't.
Keep in mind that you can click-and-drag on the age numbers to change them. Hold down shift while dragging to make the numbers change more quickly.
There are many input boxes in the vanilla game with the same problem. The focus just does not go to the actual input box.
Quote from: EdB on July 05, 2015, 03:25:13 PMHold down shift while dragging to make the numbers change more quickly.
This works? I thought I had tried this a few times and it didn't look like it helped, thanks for confirming it at least.
Quote from: Kaballah on July 05, 2015, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: EdB on July 05, 2015, 03:25:13 PMHold down shift while dragging to make the numbers change more quickly.
This works? I thought I had tried this a few times and it didn't look like it helped, thanks for confirming it at least.
Yes. You can also hold shift while clicking on the arrows to change the number by increments of 10 instead of increments of 1.
So how much do we have to bribe Tynan to get this included in the vanilla game? ;)
Quote from: Kelian on July 06, 2015, 12:40:18 PM
So how much do we have to bribe Tynan to get this included in the vanilla game? ;)
1 million dollars! *pinky to mouth Dr. Evil face!* (Or whatever that bald guy's name is from Austin Powers movies.)
What items do you usually pick while setting your team ?
Can you ask that in the the general mods section? Id tell you but I don't want to clutter up the mod.
I'm having a bit of a problem here, I'm trying to diagnose your mod to figure out how much exactly each thing costs and it's not stable. Sometimes a skill point costs 25, sometimes 30. It's random.
For example. This colonist who has all things disabled except construction. At zero, he costs 750 points. So no skills no clothing, nothing. He costs 0.
+25, +30, +25, +30, +25, +25, +30, +25, +30, +25, +25, +30, +25, +30, +25, +25, +30, +25, +30, +25
That's level 1 to level 20 in order.
Quote from: Vas on July 13, 2015, 10:00:15 PM
I'm having a bit of a problem here, I'm trying to diagnose your mod to figure out how much exactly each thing costs and it's not stable. Sometimes a skill point costs 25, sometimes 30. It's random.
For example. This colonist who has all things disabled except construction. At zero, he costs 750 points. So no skills no clothing, nothing. He costs 0.
+25, +30, +25, +30, +25, +25, +30, +25, +30, +25, +25, +30, +25, +30, +25, +25, +30, +25, +30, +25
That's level 1 to level 20 in order.
It's probably a fraction that's getting rounded and then multiplied. I'll have to double-check the math.
Think you could add a tool to your mod that exports the prices of everything? In a tabbed txt format or even a choosable format? Would make it much easier for updating and making external character creation tools. :P Especially with mods. Be able to export a list after adding a bunch of mods and such.
Also would you be able to add support for Apparello's Accessory Category, please.
I seem to be having a bit of difficulty this this. Installed fine, menu pops up as it should, etcetra etcetra. However, when I load a preset and try to launch a new colony the preset gets overridden by the one the regular game sets with its randomly generated characters that you would otherwise get.
For example, I start a colony and the game assigns me Steve, Bob, and Jane when I want Doe, Billy, and James to go through their paces. The game assigns me the first 3 even though I loaded the preset with the latter.
Oh, also, I'm using the Hardcore SK Global modpack, which this came with, version 1.9.4 so it's up to date.
Any support would be appreciated, thanks in advance.
Edit: Figured out what the problem was, Crash Landing was choosing the first three, disabled that and everything works fine.
Quote from: sovietspyder on July 17, 2015, 02:49:28 AM
Edit: Figured out what the problem was, Crash Landing was choosing the first three, disabled that and everything works fine.
Crash landing has a prepare carefully compatible version to download.
Quote from: Vas on July 14, 2015, 02:27:52 AM
Think you could add a tool to your mod that exports the prices of everything? In a tabbed txt format or even a choosable format? Would make it much easier for updating and making external character creation tools. :P Especially with mods. Be able to export a list after adding a bunch of mods and such.
It's unlikely that I'll create a tool like this (I just don't have time to do it). I will consider including the source code for the cost calculator with the next release so that it's more obvious how I'm computing the point costs.
So, I downloaded the Mod for Alpha 11B. I Unzipped it. It's IN my actual Mod Menu, yet no matter what I do, when I start a new colony (on a new world, no less) that little thing for 'prepare carefully' never pops up. Help?
Quote from: FluffyChief108 on July 20, 2015, 08:47:54 PM
So, I downloaded the Mod for Alpha 11B. I Unzipped it. It's IN my actual Mod Menu, yet no matter what I do, when I start a new colony (on a new world, no less) that little thing for 'prepare carefully' never pops up. Help?
This is the most common cause of this problem:
Quote from: EdB on September 21, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
The most common problem that people run into is that they double-extract the mod folder from the zip file. If the "Prepare Carefully" button is not appearing for you, make sure that you have not ended up with an extra directory inside your mod folder. The mod contents should be in the "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully" directory, NOT in a "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully/EdBPrepareCarefully" directory.
The only real option that I cannot find is the option to chose what injuries i have when I start. I have to let he game randomly generate it instead of letting me chose what I want.
I've encountered an issue with Prepare Carefully in the Ultimate Overhaul modpack; bringing it to your attention as per Ninefinger's advice:
Quote from: Ninefinger on July 23, 2015, 04:20:17 PM
Quote from: tamariel22 on July 23, 2015, 03:58:41 PM
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Quote from: tamariel22 on July 23, 2015, 03:20:57 PM
I just updated from scratch, base game to 11d build 877, and latest modpack. started new world, new colony (sigh..) and just happened to notice something - maybe it was there all along but missed it?
My pawns seem to have an extra skill that is out of the window boundary, below "research". there is something there, you can just make out the progress bar if you mouse over it. but what is that skill? no clue :o
is it present in vanilla game or is it something a mod added?
That is the Fishing skill, but it is not out of and window boundary and is perfectly visible...
Hi Nine
if I select "Never use alternate tab panels" in the interface options of the game, I can see all the skills properly, including the fishing skill.
if I do use the alternal tab panels (which is enabled by default) then the fishing skill is cut off.
I am using my native screen's resolution of 1920x1060 if that has anything to do with it?
thanks!
Ok i see what you are saying now, this will have to be fixed by EDB you will have to post it on the original mod page. Just say that adding new skills get cut off using alternate tab panels. maybe he can add a scroll effect or make the window slightly larger.
I think the issue is that Prepare Carefully isn't currently able to address new skills added by mods, so they may or may not be visible, depending on your resolution/interface settings.
Also, while I'm mentioning things; since randomized starting clothing costs build points, and some mods add really expensive apparel, it's kind of important to curate colonists' random clothing choices... but it's sort of a pain to do so using nothing more than next/previous buttons, especially as the apparel lists grow in length. It'd be really convenient if it were possible to get a submenu for clothing in the same way as you can currently get a submenu for traits. Alternatively (or perhaps in addition), it'd be useful to have a 'strip' button that simply sets all the clothing options to 'none'.
Any possibility to bring back random crash sites ?
(You had this in scenario's once upon a time).
Just a button on the map screen that automatically takes you to the "next" screen and picks a random site once you finish your character loadouts - it would really make Prepare Carefully shine imo. And take a little bit off that OP feel too.
Love your mods dude, won't play without them.
Due to issues with Dropbox downloads, I've decided to move the mod download to Nexus Mods. The file size is small, so you should be able to download it without logging in over there.
Does anyone have a download for 1.9.3? Still playing on 11, haven't updated yet.
Quote from: kahlzun on August 14, 2015, 10:28:54 AM
Does anyone have a download for 1.9.3? Still playing on 11, haven't updated yet.
I've attached the download to this post. You need to be logged into the forums to see the link.
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Thanks a lot!
i have a problem regarding this mod. when i start a colony with cyborg parts using this mod, all i get is a single drop pod with potato seeds (i am currently using Ultimate Overhaul modpack) nothing else. no colonists but resources/materials on the ground. debug menu appears, says errors about Accessory, apparel blah blah and [insert colonist name] has already have Industriousness trait. also a system argument exception blah blah verbose stuff bodypartindex.
I just downloaded Alpha 12 and will start working on updating the mod. No estimate of when it might be done. Lots of changes in Alpha 12. I'm not really sure what I'm going to do with pets yet in Prepare Carefully. Obviously that has the potential to be a big change to the mod.
Your mods are as important for RW as SkyUI is for SR imo. Maybe even more so. So thanks! Especially the UI one itself I just can't live without anymore.
Lil request though for nutso peeps like myself. A hardcore version of prep-carefully would be much appreciated and I'm willing to bet pretty pop with the other crazies who dig this mod but have zero self control while setting up their game :P
Here's the skinny:
You're only allowed to use a total of the points that your first 3 colonist's stats add up to in order to "modify" your landing party in any way. Soooooo, if you want to start with ANY more than what you have you're forced to give it up somewhere on one of those colonists first. Oh and one last thing, points being used universally on resources and colonist stats just feels cheep even for the normal version haha. Like I said I have no self control!!
Pretty please with coked up strippers and whipped-cream on top :-* ;D
Hi FMJ - is this already accomplished with the "use points" tick box in Prepare Carefully?
Also seconding the sentiment that EdB mods are a must for the game! Thanks for these amazing tools!
Quote from: akiceabear on August 21, 2015, 08:23:33 PM
Hi FMJ - is this already accomplished with the "use points" tick box in Prepare Carefully?
Also seconding the sentiment that EdB mods are a must for the game! Thanks for these amazing tools!
I wish, I really do cuzz I wouldn't feel like such a cheating fool while using it. Thing is even with that checkbox on, it still gives you "extra" points. Usually 2k plus extra points which works out to a pretty big advantage over what you would have started with especially if you dump it into resources instead of stats. I'm horrible at explaining things in any comprehend-able form ahahaha. But yeah it's not a big deal or anything. I'm sure it doesn't even bother most folks but hey, couldn't hurt to ask. :)
You don't need to use all the points to launch..
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on August 22, 2015, 12:59:10 AM
Quote from: akiceabear on August 21, 2015, 08:23:33 PM
Hi FMJ - is this already accomplished with the "use points" tick box in Prepare Carefully?
Also seconding the sentiment that EdB mods are a must for the game! Thanks for these amazing tools!
I wish, I really do cuzz I wouldn't feel like such a cheating fool while using it. Thing is even with that checkbox on, it still gives you "extra" points. Usually 2k plus extra points which works out to a pretty big advantage over what you would have started with especially if you dump it into resources instead of stats. I'm horrible at explaining things in any comprehend-able form ahahaha. But yeah it's not a big deal or anything. I'm sure it doesn't even bother most folks but hey, couldn't hurt to ask. :)
I get what you're saying. The problem is that the game is pretty unbalanced as far as your starting colonists' stats are concerned. Sometimes you get great colonists worth a lot of points and sometimes you get not so great colonists worth less points. This is not a bad thing as far as the vanilla game is concerned--the randomness makes for good stories--but it doesn't work so well for me picking a good starting point value. I felt like I had to pick a number so that you always start in a consistent place. That's why you sometimes get stuck with extra points--it was better to pick a high number so that you get extra points than to pick a low number and have you sometimes start with negative points.
I've tried to balance things out as best as I can so that your points are as close to zero as possible when you start, but I've never been able to get it right. Every time a new alpha comes out, I do tweak the point numbers a bit. Hopefully, it will feel a little more balanced this time around.
Just want to add my praise to the amazing mods you spoil us with, EdB. Thank you for the effort you put into the continued support !!
When 12 Alpha, esse?
looking forward for this =)
This has to be the best mod ever! Waiting patiently. :)
Have you thought about adding a way to change the points available. Maybe "+" and "-" buttons to change the value by 100pt or so. If people still like the randomness perhaps there is a way to have a button that randomizes the points available (say up to +/- 30% of your starting value... might have to change starting value). I am not much of a modder so I dont know how hard it would be.
I apologize if this was already discussed in one of the other 45 pages of this thread... i didnt read them all... just wanted to see if this was updated for b12.
I love this mod and is always the first one i check to see if its updated. I think this mod alone has caused me to have more unique and challenging games. (i made one where all my starting characters were brawlers but excellent doctors... now that was fun).
Quote from: Traj on August 22, 2015, 09:46:57 AM
I love this mod and is always the first one i check to see if its updated.
Me too. Should be option in game IMO. If I were going across the galaxy to colonize some world, I would be very picky about who I take with me, and heck, we get to pick where we land, as well as who lands with us, but feels like I am wading through spammed resumes in the given UI.
Quote from: Bamko on August 22, 2015, 01:29:42 PM
Quote from: Traj on August 22, 2015, 09:46:57 AM
I love this mod and is always the first one i check to see if its updated.
Me too. Should be option in game IMO. If I were going across the galaxy to colonize some world, I would be very picky about who I take with me, and heck, we get to pick where we land, as well as who lands with us, but feels like I am wading through spammed resumes in the given UI.
You're not colonizing, you're crash-landing. But I agree I'd like to see this implemented in the base game to.
Dang! I wanted to play Rimworld today but no update to Prepare Carefully means I must carefully prepare to be patient, quiet, and steadfast.
Some credit to the importance of your mod that I'm not really interested in turning Rimworld on without it! Thanks for making this!
Quote from: onezerotwo on August 22, 2015, 02:27:54 PM
Dang! I wanted to play Rimworld today but no update to Prepare Carefully means I must carefully prepare to be patient, quiet, and steadfast.
You can expect a release probably tonight or tomorrow. I just finished adding support for alpha 12 features (you can now customize the animals that you land with), and I'm going to start testing soon to make sure that I didn't break anything.
If you're also waiting for the interface mod, that's going to take much longer. You probably won't see that one until next weekend.
nice, i really like to play, but i wait for your mod =)
All i need is this one mod, i can't play without the min-maxing. ;D
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on August 21, 2015, 07:30:43 PM
You're only allowed to use a total of the points that your first 3 colonist's stats add up to in order to "modify" your landing party in any way. Soooooo, if you want to start with ANY more than what you have you're forced to give it up somewhere on one of those colonists first. Oh and one last thing, points being used universally on resources and colonist stats just feels cheep even for the normal version haha. Like I said I have no self control!!
Quote from: Traj on August 22, 2015, 09:46:57 AM
Have you thought about adding a way to change the points available. Maybe "+" and "-" buttons to change the value by 100pt or so. If people still like the randomness perhaps there is a way to have a button that randomizes the points available (say up to +/- 30% of your starting value... might have to change starting value).
You know...you've convinced me. This has always bothered me as well. I want the remaining points" number to start at zero, but I also need it to be balanced so that saved presets work without the remaining points changing every time you load them. I'm going to add a new option (not enabled by default) that always sets the "remaining points" to zero--more like FMJ Penguin's suggestion.
I'm not going to be changing the way that you can spend the same points on stats and equipment. Trading off between where you spend the points was always how I intended it.
lolz.... aw man that was too easy :p
Traj's has a good point. Let the user decide the total may be the easiest? Even in a config file would be cool... maybe better that way so it wasn't soo easy to just revert back while in game haha. Or different versions for download easy/normal/hard variants. Just throwing stuff out there....
Hell bro, whatever is easiest for you. I'm just happy you're working on A12 support honestly. Still waiting on another mod to get updated before I even bother with A12 anyways. Yes, thanks to you modders I can't even enjoy vanilla RW anymore. Jerks, always thinking of yourselves you know?
God Job, your mod is just great. Can't wait to update...
where is the link to download the mod?
I've posted a new release, version 1.10.1 for Alpha 12.
It includes a couple of new features (see the original post). Let me know if you find any bugs.
THANK YOU!!!
Thank You, EdB!! 8)
*HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Hello,
first thank you for this awesome Mod.
But in the new Version i have a Small Problem (see Image Attached).
The Game Language is German.
Thx
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Nothin but luv. New point limitation really helps it feel less cheatzy too ;D Really diggin it!
It would appear that I myself am having issues with NexusMods. It claimed that I had tried to download the mod over 50 times, even though I can actually prove that this is the first time that I visited that exact page. Thank goodness for the alternate download.
Quote from: Perry on August 23, 2015, 03:44:54 AM
Hello,
first thank you for this awesome Mod.
But in the new Version i have a Small Problem (see Image Attached).
The Game Language is German.
Thx
The text you're seeing is pseudo translation code. You'll get this when you have the debug mode on and the texts aren't available in your language. If you switch the debug mode off (options), those texts should be shown in plain english :)
Thank you EdB!
Quote from: Mordakai95 on August 23, 2015, 07:07:23 AM
It would appear that I myself am having issues with NexusMods. It claimed that I had tried to download the mod over 50 times, even though I can actually prove that this is the first time that I visited that exact page. Thank goodness for the alternate download.
Nexus Mods definitely has its odd moments. I was having issues with Dropbox downloads being blocked by browsers, so I needed to find an alternative place to host. It seems like those Dropbox issues have cleared up, so I may bring those download links back as another alternative.
Please do I love this Mod but the nexus is giving me the same error.
Between MediaFire and DropBox you should be set I'd think. There are other lesser known free-sites but can't think the names off hand. Had issues with Nexus at times to but I assumed it was just firefox which doesn't like some sites for whatever reason at times. You guys try a different browser to see if that helps? Opera is a nice "light" browser if you're not keen on using one of the mainstreams as a backup browser.
I was having the same issue as a user above me with nexus mods. It claimed incorrectly that I had tried to download over 50 times and it had blocked my IP for like 3 hours. I know it isn't a big deal but it would be if everybody used nexus lol. Maybe you can just link it at the bottom of the OP like some other mods unless there is a size limit or something more to it that I don't know of. Hope w/e the problem it gets fixed soon, I feel like I can't play properly without this sweet mod.
Edit: In a last ditch effort to get nexus working I disabled adblock and it seemed to fix it. I'm not sure if it is an actual bug with nexus/adblock or just nexus mods sly way of fighting back but it might help those who need it.
Quote from: Karnej on August 23, 2015, 06:18:25 PM
I was having the same issue as a user above me with nexus mods. It claimed incorrectly that I had tried to download over 50 times and it had blocked my IP for like 3 hours. I know it isn't a big deal but it would be if everybody used nexus lol. Maybe you can just link it at the bottom of the OP like some other mods unless there is a size limit or something more to it that I don't know of. Hope w/e the problem it gets fixed soon, I feel like I can't play properly without this sweet mod.
Edit: In a last ditch effort to get nexus working I disabled adblock and it seemed to fix it. I'm not sure if it is an actual bug with nexus/adblock or just nexus mods sly way of fighting back but it might help those who need it.
Sorry for the trouble. I've added a Dropbox link back into the original post.
Quote from: EdB on September 21, 2014, 04:06:36 PM
Apologies--I had bug in the first version that I should have caught. I posted a new release, v1.0.2.
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Do you have a link to 1.0.2? TYVM for this and the other mods you put out. They really make the game a bit more fun, and I thought that not possible at all. 8)
For some reason when i use this my colonists dont spawn
I found out it had somthing to do with bodyparts
I would like to express my appreciation for this mod and its timely update to the latest version.
SLIM's Mercenaries thanks you for your service.
Was the option to customize the equipment the characters start out with removed? I seem to recall having that ability with this mod, but it isn't there anymore =(
It was in there at the A12 release, but hasn't been updated for A12c yet.
Cool for RP
Trouble when I used this in Alph12c. The character was always displaying as wide/fat body type. I skipped using the mod and never made it to a map to see if they colonists would spawn that way.
I just looked at the mod for the first time in Alpha 12c. I did not see any issues--are people seeing problems with it? I'm trying to figure out if I need to put out 12c-specific release.
Quote from: METATERREN on August 27, 2015, 11:42:24 PM
Cool for RP
Trouble when I used this in Alph12c. The character was always displaying as wide/fat body type. I skipped using the mod and never made it to a map to see if they colonists would spawn that way.
You mean the body type never changed even though you were changing their backstories? Only asking because the backstories are what determine the body type. If you start going through all of the backstory option, you should see the body type start to change.
Quote from: EdB on August 28, 2015, 02:22:39 AM
I just looked at the mod for the first time in Alpha 12c. I did not see any issues--are people seeing problems with it? I'm trying to figure out if I need to put out 12c-specific release.
I just started a game in 12c using the current download of this mod, and have so far had no issues - I was able to change everything about the colonists that I could in previous versions of Prepare Carefully.
Do the animals that you go with reproduce?For me they arent and I have them there for a long time.
Quote from: LeBug2002 on August 29, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
Do the animals that you go with reproduce?For me they arent and I have them there for a long time.
Yep, they did for me. Some animals reproduce more often than others. If you want them to breed faster it may work better if you make a room for them so they keep running into each other.
Quote from: LeBug2002 on August 29, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
Do the animals that you go with reproduce?For me they arent and I have them there for a long time.
I'm not doing anything special when creating the animals, so they should reproduce as normal.
Quote from: EdB on August 29, 2015, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: LeBug2002 on August 29, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
Do the animals that you go with reproduce?For me they arent and I have them there for a long time.
I'm not doing anything special when creating the animals, so they should reproduce as normal.
Thank you! I have two alpacas and they arent reproducing but I guess that it just takes a lot of time. :)
can anyone pleasae give me the alpha 10 version link?
Quote from: LeBug2002 on August 29, 2015, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: EdB on August 29, 2015, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: LeBug2002 on August 29, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
Do the animals that you go with reproduce?For me they arent and I have them there for a long time.
I'm not doing anything special when creating the animals, so they should reproduce as normal.
Thank you! I have two alpacas and they arent reproducing but I guess that it just takes a lot of time. :)
exactly, 10 hours of playing on a map just equal 2 ingame years. so if they only breed every 2 -3 years you will have to wait 12 hours between every breeding. i would suggest chickens, like chicksplosion
Quote from: PepsiStove on August 29, 2015, 07:52:33 PM
can anyone pleasae give me the alpha 10 version link?
Its from a russian site but I think that it works http://rimworld.ru/mods/edb-prepare-carefully-1.8.2
Quote from: Prester on August 29, 2015, 10:59:35 PM
Quote from: LeBug2002 on August 29, 2015, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: EdB on August 29, 2015, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: LeBug2002 on August 29, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
Do the animals that you go with reproduce?For me they arent and I have them there for a long time.
Thanks I was really confused! :)
I'm not doing anything special when creating the animals, so they should reproduce as normal.
Thank you! I have two alpacas and they arent reproducing but I guess that it just takes a lot of time. :)
exactly, 10 hours of playing on a map just equal 2 ingame years. so if they only breed every 2 -3 years you will have to wait 12 hours between every breeding. i would suggest chickens, like chicksplosion
A little bit of feedback here. I love the 'no extra points' feature. Thing is, when you load a preset it doesn't load the points for that preset, it uses the points for the three randoms that were there before you loaded the preset.
Quote from: MarvinKosh on September 01, 2015, 09:43:32 AM
A little bit of feedback here. I love the 'no extra points' feature. Thing is, when you load a preset it doesn't load the points for that preset, it uses the points for the three randoms that were there before you loaded the preset.
I kind of realized this as I was adding the feature, but I decided to hold off on changing the way that presets are saved--mostly because I was trying to get it out quickly after the alpha 12 release. I'll probably revisit this and figure out a way to include the point value in the preset. I was a little worried that it might be confusing if you switched from no points added to the normal mode and back when loading a preset, but the more I think about, it should be ok.
Bug report: you are able to make colonists wear apparel made out of materials they cannot be made of. For example hyperweave leather pants. It can be accomplished if there are next to each other 2 items with selectable materials. If you then select material in one item which another item can't be made with and change to that 2nd item, it will stay and cost you 0 points.
Quote from: zenfur on September 02, 2015, 07:20:09 PM
Bug report: you are able to make colonists wear apparel made out of materials they cannot be made of. For example hyperweave leather pants. It can be accomplished if there are next to each other 2 items with selectable materials. If you then select material in one item which another item can't be made with and change to that 2nd item, it will stay and cost you 0 points.
Thanks for the bug report. I will take a look.
That has been like that for a while since alpha 9 I thought you knew haha
Bug: Outfitting colonists with synthread parka causes drop pods to fail to spawn and throw some errors in the debug menu. Untested with other materials and sorry I don't have the debug menu text, gave them all jackets instead and had no further issues. Bug was repeatable after quit to desktop and game restart
Other mods used: RedistHeat, Expanded Prosthetics & Organ Engineering, Tilled Soil, Craftable Guns
Absolutely love the mod, the only one thing is, isn't it a little OP that I can decide to start without much ressources (sacrificing silver, wood, steel even meals if I want to) to give all of my colonists burning passions in every skills without busting the no extra points limit? To maximise the number of burning passions your colonist have you can sacrifice initial ressources which are not really hard to get back and this does feel a bit unbalanced. I know it's a hard balancing issue because how can you rightfully decide of how many burning passions should be allowed per colonist but I just thought i would let you know if you weren't already aware of it.
Thanks again for the mod, it's great!
Quote from: WilliamKids on September 13, 2015, 09:43:39 PM
Absolutely love the mod, the only one thing is, isn't it a little OP that I can decide to start without much ressources (sacrificing silver, wood, steel even meals if I want to) to give all of my colonists burning passions in every skills without busting the no extra points limit? To maximise the number of burning passions your colonist have you can sacrifice initial ressources which are not really hard to get back and this does feel a bit unbalanced. I know it's a hard balancing issue because how can you rightfully decide of how many burning passions should be allowed per colonist but I just thought i would let you know if you weren't already aware of it.
Thanks again for the mod, it's great!
Daydreaming....
What if....
Passion points where limited by age. Say, 1 pp per 10 years of age or 1.5(rounded up). Would give me a reason to take old pawns :). Granted it doesn't make much
sense but it may work well in practice?
Quote from: WilliamKids on September 13, 2015, 09:43:39 PM
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Are you serious? Dude you decide everything that is the point of the mob. If you think it's op then just don't make it op, this mod is literally made so YOU can choose everything that YOU start off with! It doesn't need to be balanced because it already is balanced. Everything costs points and if you have points on then you can't have everyone have x2burning passion in everything. In fact if you ever start with 3 people who are decent you maybe get 2-300 points to spend maybe.
One possible solution is to have two types of points - some that can only be allocated to items (based on the default item loadout) and others that can only allocated to pawns, based on the starting stats of your random pawns.
Quote from: akiceabear on September 14, 2015, 06:41:25 AM
One possible solution is to have two types of points - some that can only be allocated to items (based on the default item loadout) and others that can only allocated to pawns, based on the starting stats of your random pawns.
Yeah, EdB aint keen on that idea though. Likes them being part of the same point pool I guess. Which is understandable considering the mod is alot about choice.
Honestly I just wish a simplified version was built right into the game which was a bit more limiting based around the original game's difficulty settings. It's nice to have the choice to at least change cosmetics and such but I just skip the item loadout entirely cuzz even one weapon change can imbalance the start of the game sometimes. :) Meh, don't mind me I'm just rambling. It's not like you use a mod like this for it's balance haha
Speaking of totally awesome imbalanced starts, is the 10 starting spawns limit hardcoded into this mod, or the game?
Quote from: NihilRex on September 14, 2015, 12:47:19 PM
Speaking of totally awesome imbalanced starts, is the 10 starting spawns limit hardcoded into this mod, or the game?
This is a limit of the mod. 10 is an arbitrary number that I picked due to the limitations of the tabbed user interface along the top--at some point, the tabs get so small that you can't read the names. I could probably increase that limit by one or two, but to remove the limit entirely, I'd need to rewrite the tab interface to handle it--and really, rewriting that UI widget is not something that I'm eager to do.
Quote from: EdB on September 14, 2015, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: NihilRex on September 14, 2015, 12:47:19 PM
Speaking of totally awesome imbalanced starts, is the 10 starting spawns limit hardcoded into this mod, or the game?
This is a limit of the mod. 10 is an arbitrary number that I picked due to the limitations of the tabbed user interface along the top--at some point, the tabs get so small that you can't read the names. I could probably increase that limit by one or two, but to remove the limit entirely, I'd need to rewrite the tab interface to handle it--and really, rewriting that UI widget is not something that I'm eager to do.
Fully understandable, I just was plotting a NewGame+ type series, and wanted to check at the outset, since I tend to accumulate pawns...
First let me say (like everyone else) awesome mod! Have you thought about making default settings. Where we as the end user didnt have to try to figure out if we were playing to easy or to hard for our skill level. Maybe some simple UI button (i say that because I am a non-modder and every mod is as easy as pie, right?) that preset the points for our skill level.
While I usually play around 15-18K points I dont know what a true "normal" start is (seems very random... is it based on map, terrain, etc?)
Something like:
Hard: 8,000 points
Normal: 16,000 points
Easy: 25,000 points
Third Grade Level: 33,000 Points
Quote from: WilliamKids on September 13, 2015, 09:43:39 PM
Absolutely love the mod, the only one thing is, isn't it a little OP that I can decide to start without much ressources (sacrificing silver, wood, steel even meals if I want to) to give all of my colonists burning passions in every skills without busting the no extra points limit? To maximise the number of burning passions your colonist have you can sacrifice initial ressources which are not really hard to get back and this does feel a bit unbalanced. I know it's a hard balancing issue because how can you rightfully decide of how many burning passions should be allowed per colonist but I just thought i would let you know if you weren't already aware of it.
I've actually spent a lot of time try to figure out what's a fair value for the passions, because I agree that it feels a little off the way that it is now. It's really difficult to balance it correctly. The vanilla game calculates a market value for each colonist, but it does not factor in passions (something to keep in mind when buying from pirate merchants). I really wish it did--it would provide some guidance on what the fair value really is.
It's tough to balance because the number of passions for the random colonists that you start with varies wildly. Sometimes, each of your colonists will have 1 or 2 minor passions. Sometimes you'll get a colonist with 6 minor passions and 2 or 3 burning passions. So in reality, that starting group can be pretty unbalanced from game to game. This works fine for the emergent storytelling goals of the vanilla game, but it doesn't work as well if you're looking for a balanced start.
I've sort of given up on trying to solve the problem for now, but I might revisit it in the future.
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on September 14, 2015, 07:30:15 AM
Quote from: akiceabear on September 14, 2015, 06:41:25 AM
One possible solution is to have two types of points - some that can only be allocated to items (based on the default item loadout) and others that can only allocated to pawns, based on the starting stats of your random pawns.
Yeah, EdB aint keen on that idea though. Likes them being part of the same point pool I guess. Which is understandable considering the mod is alot about choice.
I don't necessarily think this is a bad idea, but for me, I always liked the idea that I'd start with fewer resources so that I could add an extra colonist or two--that you could make that type of trade-off when deciding on your starting group. Using the split-points approach, I'm not sure you could afford extra colonists.
Whatever the vanilla game does to figure point/stat/pp allocations is totally borked imo. Even if your mod was literally nothing but up/down arrows for stats I'd still use it cuzz some of the rng from vanilla is just hilarious. Swear over half my dudes are professional animal trainers...... not to mention vanilla seems more cheaty than ever in 12 when randomizing. Dudes with like 12+ passion points and +10 in half dozen things.... no thanks.
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on September 18, 2015, 06:47:25 AM
Swear over half my dudes are professional animal trainers...... not to mention vanilla seems more cheaty than ever in 12 when randomizing. Dudes with like 12+ passion points and +10 in half dozen things.... no thanks.
The animal training is new. Which is why it's like that. As the for the dudes with +12/10 in half a dozen things what are you on about? I have never seen that happen maybe in 1 or 2 skills but half a dozen? Also when they have that many points in a skill level(s) there are skills certainly disabled. Also there are 3 levels of passion burning,minor,nonexistent. Those aren't passion points those are skill levels.
Quote from: Dragoon on September 18, 2015, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on September 18, 2015, 06:47:25 AM
Swear over half my dudes are professional animal trainers...... not to mention vanilla seems more cheaty than ever in 12 when randomizing. Dudes with like 12+ passion points and +10 in half dozen things.... no thanks.
The animal training is new. Which is why it's like that. As the for the dudes with +12/10 in half a dozen things what are you on about? I have never seen that happen maybe in 1 or 2 skills but half a dozen? Also when they have that many points in a skill level(s) there are skills certainly disabled. Also there are 3 levels of passion burning,minor,nonexistent. Those aren't passion points those are skill levels.
Oye you're just on that like flies on shit aint yaz? I meant 10 sp's not 10+12 passion points but my guess is it doesn't really matter does it? You just feel like arguing.
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on September 18, 2015, 12:50:23 PM
Quote from: Dragoon on September 18, 2015, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on September 18, 2015, 06:47:25 AM
Swear over half my dudes are professional animal trainers...... not to mention vanilla seems more cheaty than ever in 12 when randomizing. Dudes with like 12+ passion points and +10 in half dozen things.... no thanks.
The animal training is new. Which is why it's like that. As the for the dudes with +12/10 in half a dozen things what are you on about? I have never seen that happen maybe in 1 or 2 skills but half a dozen? Also when they have that many points in a skill level(s) there are skills certainly disabled. Also there are 3 levels of passion burning,minor,nonexistent. Those aren't passion points those are skill levels.
Oye you're just on that like flies on shit aint yaz? I meant 10 sp's not 10+12 passion points but my guess is it doesn't really matter does it? You just feel like arguing.
I think he meant something like this, I got this guy 'Gizmo' from some Pirates.
(http://i.imgur.com/MFh6zpZ.png)
Did you name that dude or is there an actual gizmo? I've never had a gizmo :(
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on September 18, 2015, 01:10:34 PM
Did you name that dude or is there an actual gizmo? I've never had a gizmo :(
No, I didn't name him. I got him that way.
Quote from: Beathrus on September 18, 2015, 01:12:41 PM
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on September 18, 2015, 01:10:34 PM
Did you name that dude or is there an actual gizmo? I've never had a gizmo :(
No, I didn't name him. I got him that way.
Well in that case... best name EVA XD a bit jealous honestly. My guys are always weird Korean sounding names that I can't pronounce :P No offense Korea!
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on September 18, 2015, 01:18:25 PM
Quote from: Beathrus on September 18, 2015, 01:12:41 PM
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on September 18, 2015, 01:10:34 PM
Did you name that dude or is there an actual gizmo? I've never had a gizmo :(
No, I didn't name him. I got him that way.
Well in that case... best name EVA XD a bit jealous honestly. My guys are always weird Korean sounding names that I can't pronounce :P No offense Korea!
Well, I always use like Shinzys 'Pirates, Norbals' and Ish's 'Nobles' faction. And the map generation 'rekt4u'. Maybe you'll get non Korea names like that? xD
oh wtf.... I removed those from my play-through.... those faction mods add names too the generator too?!? :o
Quote from: FMJ Penguin on September 18, 2015, 01:29:37 PM
oh wtf.... I removed those from my play-through.... those faction mods add names too the generator too?!? :o
I'unno. o.o I just like the Gear! Especially the Nobles faction stuff! But I think they do. I've seen some good names, like 'Strongstorm' or something from the Norbals one.
Oh heck. Yeah I never seen names anything like that. Thanks! Def be putting them back in there. Had no clue.... :)
Quote from: mokonasakura on June 29, 2015, 03:32:41 PM
Quote from: r4ky on June 29, 2015, 03:24:39 PM
Hi, can someone explain me why there is 2 age number in prepare carefully ?
like : Jude age 27-453
it is age of birth / death ? But i dont think so it look a bit strange to know the age of death
it is a random age between both?
Thanks for your answer
Actual age and chronological age. So i can have a character who's body only aged 29 years but has slept in a chrono casket for thousands. It's sci-fi stuff.
hmm i see ! thanks for the answer ;D
As a suggestion for the item menu, what if instead of listing every single item and the potential material it could be made of, why not put each base item in the list and have right-click give you the option of choosing what material the item is made of? It'd clear up a lot of space on the list and make it seem a lot less cluttered.
Great mod!
Would it be possible to "lock in" one or more traits and have it so randomly generated characters will always contain those traits? I think it'd be a nice option when you want a start to be less than completely random but don't want to fully define your landing party, and without having to click "Randomize" 100 times to get 3 cannibals, for example :)
Quote from: Rampart on September 30, 2015, 06:09:19 PM
Great mod!
Would it be possible to "lock in" one or more traits and have it so randomly generated characters will always contain those traits? I think it'd be a nice option when you want a start to be less than completely random but don't want to fully define your landing party, and without having to click "Randomize" 100 times to get 3 cannibals, for example :)
Interesting suggestion. No promises, but I will take a look at how feasible it would be to add this.
I'm so thankful for this mod. What had always troubled me in this game was how randomly characters were created, and my perfeccionist side couldn't cope with it. I would reroll until I got the ideal people, and, as you surely know, and was the reason for you to have created this, it can take a long, long time. Therefore, this HUGELY improves the game for me.
Once again, thank you so much.
Hello, have also installed this Mod and can also call the advanced Options and I create three Colonists. But as soon as I click on Next to start the map, I only get a window where I am asked to Make a Donation. About this Mod I can alsi start a Game.
Can I use this Mod after a Donation? I use the current RimWorld 12.9xx Version.
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There should be no such screen, I'd say your game or mod copy is tampered with.
If it's pirated, buy the game properly, what you have is likely to have bugs/viruses/trojans.
If not, re-download both making sure to get the mod from the link at the front of this topic and the game from the download link sent when you purchased the game.
RimWorld I bought about rimworldgame.com and the mod I have loaded on nexusmods.com down.
I also have the EdB Interface Mod, the works. Thanks for the answer.
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Likely one of the mods then, I'd suggest disabling them all, then turn them on one by one until the issue returns, then you know which it is.
If I enable this mod for a12d with nothing but core enabled and try to go back to the main menu a box comes up saying incompatible or corrupted mods have been disabled, please help? (By the way I downloaded through Dropbox).
My best guess: delete it, download and extract it over again.
Tried but it didn't work :'(
Quote from: Purble1234 on October 12, 2015, 05:38:10 AM
Tried but it didn't work :'(
I haven't had this exact problem, but I've encountered incompatible mods causing blackscreen in RimWorld that just removing the mods didn't fix. If you're on Windows you could try this:
- disable and delete all mods except for core
- go to C:\Users\(your username)\AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios (AppData is hidden, so you may have to change the folder settings to show hidden files) and change the folder inside from RimWorld to RimWorldOld or similar (or cut/paste it to a backup location)
- start RimWorld, check if it works and close it again
- go back to aforementioned folder, there should be a new RimWorld folder
- re-download and install your mods
I wouldn't recommend migrating your old saves from the original folder, but if you don't mind possibly doing the whole thing over again you can try. :-)
Thanks :D
Quote from: bullet on October 13, 2015, 05:39:17 AM
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Wrong mod bro. https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=5085.0 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=5085.0)
oops, sorry
Thanks EdB, for continued updates!
(http://i.imgur.com/lbuXP1h.jpg)
I think there's a bug with passions where enabling passion gives me points instead of removing them. Here's how I do it:
(http://i.imgur.com/2Lh7pYC.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/odMUHCo.png)
Edit: Seems to be when there are more than 4 passions
We come a little closer to being Dwarf Fortress every update dont we...
I am having a problem where I set the amounts of the different items I want to start with and they are spawning in drastically lower amounts. I have points turned off and I am trying to get large amounts of a few items (10,000) but the game generally only spawns between ~2000 and 5000. I am using this as part of the latest Hardcore SK 2.4b if that makes any difference. Thank you for any help you can give me.
Is it not possible to start with more than 10 colonists?
Hi Allov,
I am not sure what happened, because I just tried myself, with every skill and everything seems to be working fine to me...
No matter if I right or left click on the passions.
Hello,
i love the haulers from the MIA-mod, i understand that they are purchased ingame...but lets say i want the option to start with them, how can i add them to the list of items the colonists can start with?
or phrased differently, how exactly knows you mod what items to list there and which not?
certain tags that have to be applied?
thanks for your help
Is there a way to add in more than 10 colonists? I like doing scenarios and usually they take more than ten people to start... Is there a way to remove the limitation? Thanks for the awesome mod! ;D
#1 Love this mod, can see this in the final version of RW for sure 8)
But I do have a question, I looked through a few pages but no answer to be found. What is the 2nd age for ? I'm guessing lifespan or something?
Quote from: jampy00 on January 02, 2016, 05:46:12 PM
#1 Love this mod, can see this in the final version of RW for sure 8)
But I do have a question, I looked through a few pages but no answer to be found. What is the 2nd age for ? I'm guessing lifespan or something?
The 2nd age is their actual age. The first age is the second age, minus how long they've spent in cryptosleep.
hey been a while since i played - decided to get back into it.
am i completely wrong or diddent you have the ability to color individual pieces of clothing (regardless of their material type) i recall being able to do that via some piece of furniture.
but the only thing i can find thats even close to this ability is the one in this mod but then only in the setup phase ? can you not alter clothes color ingame ?
Hi, Thank you for this wonderful mod. I would like to ask where can I find the custom character that I've created, his/her health? Don't want no bad backs when I get in game. Thank you:)
Quote from: slpc04 on January 17, 2016, 04:36:41 AM
Hi, Thank you for this wonderful mod. I would like to ask where can I find the custom character that I've created, his/her health? Don't want no bad backs when I get in game. Thank you:)
Click hair and go down to body parts. It will let you add any body part you wish. lick the check and turn it into an x to turn off spawning with injuries. click load character to load your custom made one (assuming you saved it with the button next to it).
Where does this mod save its presets? For example, if I want to export/import presets I made on another PC, where can I find the files for my saved colonists?
E: Nevermind, its in the one Appdata folder I didnt check!
Hello,
I'd like to put forward a feature request for the mod, though I'm unsure if it is possible. I think it would be cool to be able to create custom backgrounds through this mod, for use with this mod.
Is it possible?
-Michael
Quote from: Vagabond on February 11, 2016, 07:11:52 PM
Hello,
I'd like to put forward a feature request for the mod, though I'm unsure if it is possible. I think it would be cool to be able to create custom backgrounds through this mod, for use with this mod.
Is it possible?
-Michael
There's a Backstories mod already, it makes creating your own backgrounds really easy. ;D
Here's the link: https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=11730.0 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=11730.0).
Quote from: cucumpear on February 12, 2016, 04:09:46 AM
Quote from: Vagabond on February 11, 2016, 07:11:52 PM
Hello,
I'd like to put forward a feature request for the mod, though I'm unsure if it is possible. I think it would be cool to be able to create custom backgrounds through this mod, for use with this mod.
Is it possible?
-Michael
There's a Backstories mod already, it makes creating your own backgrounds really easy. ;D
Here's the link: https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=11730.0 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=11730.0).
Thats awesome. Thanks! Does it allow you to edit backstories in the game already?
I don't know how about you guys but i have some problems with this mod...
First of all the point exploit, if you take sh*t load of items that gives -(numbers) save it, exit Prep's open it again, load that preset, remove those items added and for me atleast i had over 70000k points that i can spend.
Second: the preset loading, if i save it on 0 points and next time i load it, it gives me -(numbers)
Third: Item generating in game... If i order like 400 granite bricks from Prep, i get only 75
i believe that is one stack
Forth: Skills and equipment prices are broken, like clothes if i order cloth pants for one character and then same for another one, it costs difirently, skills sometimes add/take more than it should
PS:Tested WITH No points ON and OFF both setting are broken... Fix plis .-.
Would be a nice feature if you could export colonists from the game, and then load them when starting a new colony.
Installed this, checked it in the Mods tab, went back to the main menu and nothing happened. Tried to re-open the game and it doesn't work anymore... it just stays on a black screen. :c
I also tried deleting the mod out of the folder, but that didn't work either. I might have to re-install the whole game now and lose everything. ;A;
Any help regarding this?
Quote from: river080 on March 04, 2016, 06:14:28 PM
Installed this, checked it in the Mods tab, went back to the main menu and nothing happened. Tried to re-open the game and it doesn't work anymore... it just stays on a black screen. :c
I also tried deleting the mod out of the folder, but that didn't work either. I might have to re-install the whole game now and lose everything. ;A;
Any help regarding this?
Seems like you might have removed your 'core' folder...
Quote from: Beathrus on March 05, 2016, 04:12:31 PM
Quote from: river080 on March 04, 2016, 06:14:28 PM
Installed this, checked it in the Mods tab, went back to the main menu and nothing happened. Tried to re-open the game and it doesn't work anymore... it just stays on a black screen. :c
I also tried deleting the mod out of the folder, but that didn't work either. I might have to re-install the whole game now and lose everything. ;A;
Any help regarding this?
Seems like you might have removed your 'core' folder...
It does sound like you have some kind of severe mod conflict (or missing Core mod). If I'm remembering correctly, you can fix this pretty easily. If you locate the game's ModsConfig.xml file and delete it, this should deactivate all mods and get you back to the vanilla state. From there, you can try to figure out which mods are conflicting.
The ModsConfig.xml file is typically found in this location (on Windows):
C:\Users\{your user name}\AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld\ConfigKeep in mind that if you're working with a mod pack that supplies its own ModConfigs.xml, you may need to copy that file over again.
It's been awhile since I've had to fix this kind of problem--if someone else can confirm that this is the correct way to fix it, it would be appreciated.
This looks really cool! Downloadin!
This was everything I hoped for and more. Not only did I squeeze in a low-skill "youth hooligan" 4th team member, but I ditched the pistol and the mostly-useless knife in favor of a chicken horde and a pile of hay.
"Traits" are a bit abusable or unbalanced but I tried to exercise restraint by sandbagging all my people with an unnecessary "heat lover".
What is everyone who uses this mod's favorite starting animals?
Passions sometimes exhibit an odd behavior where increasing a pawn's passion for a skill gives you a point discount. Is this your doing, part of the game / backstory-based, or a bug? I find it confusing. To my recollection, I've only seen it on skills that the pawn is bad at.
Backstories seem to cost around the same amount of points as manually-set skills would have cost. This is fair, but it makes backstories feel like pointless fluff instead of a life-shaping experience. What if randomly rolled backstories had a wee 10 or 20% discount?
is the developer still activ and a update for alpha13 is planed, or is the mod inactiv? No haste or pressure, it just wanted to know, because i love the mod :)
Quote from: Chadisko on April 06, 2016, 05:01:30 PM
is the developer still activ and a update for alpha13 is planed, or is the mod inactiv? No haste or pressure, it just wanted to know, because i love the mod :)
Dude, Alpha 13 literally just came out, give the guy a few days before asking.
Quote from: Dude1925 on April 06, 2016, 05:42:24 PM
Dude, Alpha 13 literally just came out, give the guy a few days before asking.
i know, that is it why i say no haste or pressure. i don't want know a date , just is the dev still working on the mod or is abandoned
Quote from: Chadisko on April 06, 2016, 05:47:50 PM
Quote from: Dude1925 on April 06, 2016, 05:42:24 PM
Dude, Alpha 13 literally just came out, give the guy a few days before asking.
i know, that is it why i say no haste or pressure. i don't want know a date , just is the dev still working on the mod or is abandoned
Well then I would assume he still is as there wasn't really a need to update the mod between now the last game patch and now, so we will probably here something from him in a week or so, given how he reacted to previous versions of the game.
+1 Hopefully there isnt too much work required for updating to A13
I do hope that being able to start with more than 10 colonists will be considered with the update to A13.
Quote from: Emmote on April 06, 2016, 08:18:32 PM
I do hope that being able to start with more than 10 colonists will be considered with the update to A13.
I'm just eager to have a 'default 3' or even have my personal 'pawn' to play with <3!
Quote from: falcongrey on April 06, 2016, 09:06:49 PM
I'm just eager to have a 'default 3' or even have my personal 'pawn' to play with <3!
I totally agree with your statement, my personal 3 starter pawns wich I just love (just perfect, not to op not to bad starter pawns). Tho it must be said, all 3 EDB mods, (Mod order, Interface, PC) should already been implemented as a standard for vanilla Rimworld in my opinion.
(Pardon my english if something is misspronounced, I'm just a 31 year old norwegian hobbygamer :P)
Quote from: Nebbeh on April 07, 2016, 04:37:47 AMTho it must be said, all 3 EDB mods, (Mod order, Interface, PC) should already been implemented as a standard for vanilla Rimworld in my opinion.
You, me and zillions of other people. I personally refuse to play Rimworld without the EdB mods. It's like trying to play with one hand tied behind my back without them.
It truly boggles my mind how these are not worked into vanilla yet.
I can not play without mod, is only necessary for me
Quote from: Nebbeh on April 07, 2016, 04:37:47 AM
Quote from: falcongrey on April 06, 2016, 09:06:49 PM
I'm just eager to have a 'default 3' or even have my personal 'pawn' to play with <3!
I totally agree with your statement, my personal 3 starter pawns wich I just love (just perfect, not to op not to bad starter pawns). Tho it must be said, all 3 EDB mods, (Mod order, Interface, PC) should already been implemented as a standard for vanilla Rimworld in my opinion.
(Pardon my english if something is misspronounced, I'm just a 31 year old norwegian hobbygamer :P)
Agreed and for the most part, it is difficult to play without these 3. I find it awkward and confusing as well.
Just played A13 and came to the conclusion that it is impossible for me to fully enjoy the game with the EdB mods.
If a mod is this missed, it MUST be implenmented into the Vanilla game.
Overlord Sylvester, give this person a job-offer.
someone should make a poll in general discussion to see how everyone feels about EdBs mods being integrated in the game, they are obviously really popular but it would be cool to have some actual numbers on this
the interface one at least is essential for me
Yeah, I'm basically waiting on the the EdB mods and a couple of others before I'll even consider playing.
Quote from: Emmote on April 07, 2016, 02:00:35 PM
Yeah, I'm basically waiting on the the EdB mods and a couple of others before I'll even consider playing.
Same here. I really need this one. I just really like to customize my starting 3.
This is a highly used Mod, but as Tynan always captions in playable options in the vanilla game, he clearly always states, how "Rimworld was meant to be played" and this is such a heavy axe in that philosophy in my opinion but yes, I think this Mod gives me 3 "God" and favorable pawns to start with that I very much prefer to play Rimworld with and it sucks without lol.
I'm almost certain prepare carefully won't be added to game (unless as a developer-mode) but interface should definitely belong in vanilla. I've been playing on a13 for a few hours and not having the portraits makes it rather tedious.
Quote from: hoho on April 07, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
I'm almost certain prepare carefully won't be added to game (unless as a developer-mode) but interface should definitely belong in vanilla. I've been playing on a13 for a few hours and not having the portraits makes it rather tedious.
I have to agree with you partly, I think we should be able to customize the appearance of the first colonists we get at the start of the game, but the other features are a bit to cheaty to be vanilla, even with the points system being on.
How long did the A12 EdB P.C. mod take to update?
This could give us a rough estimation of how long we have to wait for an A13 EdB P.C. update.
Quote from: Montesat on April 07, 2016, 03:33:35 PM
How long did the A12 EdB P.C. mod take to update?
This could give us a rough estimation of how long we have to wait for an A13 EdB P.C. update.
I imagine it'll be a little longer than that, giving that I bet he'll add in the social aspects - sibling/parent/spouse/ex-lover/etc - so that we can establish the starter's relationships with one another.
Quote from: Dude1925 on April 07, 2016, 03:09:57 PM
Quote from: hoho on April 07, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
I'm almost certain prepare carefully won't be added to game (unless as a developer-mode) but interface should definitely belong in vanilla. I've been playing on a13 for a few hours and not having the portraits makes it rather tedious.
I have to agree with you partly, I think we should be able to customize the appearance of the first colonists we get at the start of the game, but the other features are a bit to cheaty to be vanilla, even with the points system being on.
I think that falls under the if you don't like it don't use it category. Because its a really nice feature.
Quick question: Would EdB's A12 mods still work on A13?
Looking to download and reinstall this great game.
Quote from: HereticMIND on April 07, 2016, 06:36:58 PM
Quick question: Would EdB's A12 mods still work on A13?
Looking to download and reinstall this great game.
EdB Prepare Carefully for alpha12 don't work with alpha13 :(
Just a quick update:
Six months is a long time--I have not played RimWorld or looked at any of my mod code in about that long. I've been reserving judgement on what I was going to do about Prepare Carefully and the Interface mod until I got a chance to look at Alpha 13. I was hoping I could do a quick update to make it compatible with the new features, without doing any kind of major rethink. So far, that does not look likely. It looks like there's a change to the way that the game loads up the map that is no longer compatible with the core technique that I used to replace the UI in the Interface mod and to swap in all of your customizations from Prepare Carefully when you start a game.
I will spend some time to figure out if I can tweak it a bit to get it to work--there are a couple of alternatives that I'm considering--but parts of it may need some significant reworking, and I'm not sure how quickly that will happen.
So unfortunately, I have no estimate on when you might see Alpha 13 versions. It could be quite a while.
Take your time! As someone who views your mods as essential mods, I will wait as long as is needed :)
Quote from: EdB on April 07, 2016, 10:55:47 PM
Just a quick update:
Six months is a long time--I have not played RimWorld or looked at any of my mod code in about that long. I've been reserving judgement on what I was going to do about Prepare Carefully and the Interface mod until I got a chance to look at Alpha 13. I was hoping I could do a quick update to make it compatible with the new features, without doing any kind of major rethink. So far, that does not look likely. It looks like there's a change to the way that the game loads up the map that is no longer compatible with the core technique that I used to replace the UI in the Interface mod and to swap in all of your customizations from Prepare Carefully when you start a game.
I will spend some time to figure out if I can tweak it a bit to get it to work--there are a couple of alternatives that I'm considering--but parts of it may need some significant reworking, and I'm not sure how quickly that will happen.
So unfortunately, I have no estimate on when you might see Alpha 13 versions. It could be quite a while.
As always, EdB - take your time.
I'd much rather wait months for a mod from you than you to rush, get burned out, and stop. I said it months ago, but it's still true - the last version of the game that you mod for will almost certainly be my last as well. Tynan has an amazing game, but by opening it up to mods, it's to the point that I couldn't play without them.
Your interface is essential to me, and being able to set up my colonists (within reason) adds to my enjoyment (I love running with just one and seeing how he/she ends up!).
Quote from: EdB on April 07, 2016, 10:55:47 PM
Just a quick update:
Six months is a long time--I have not played RimWorld or looked at any of my mod code in...
Like the top two, take your time. We'll wait.
Frankly, not until A13, have I ever played Rimworld without your mods. Now that I have, I can see why your mods are so damn popular.
With that said; slow and steady wins the race. 8)
No. No. No.
Get it done. And get it done now. Seriously. What, you like have a life or something?
ME. WANT. MOAR!
Or, yeah, what the others said.. I'll be here waiting!
;)
EdB, I assume you're aware of some of the 'new' techniques we've been discovering. The one of primary interest is probably method detouring, which should make your job quite a bit easier. CCL includes this, but the responsible method is easily isolated and copied if you don't want to include/wait for CCL to update.
The adorable fluffy to the rescue.
Quote from: EdB on April 07, 2016, 10:55:47 PM
So unfortunately, I have no estimate on when you might see Alpha 13 versions. It could be quite a while.
Best of luck, and thanks for working on this and the interface.
Quote from: Fluffy (l2032) on April 08, 2016, 06:23:50 AM
EdB, I assume you're aware of some of the 'new' techniques we've been discovering. The one of primary interest is probably method detouring, which should make your job quite a bit easier. CCL includes this, but the responsible method is easily isolated and copied if you don't want to include/wait for CCL to update.
Thanks, Fluffy. I have not been around in awhile, so no, I had not seen this method injection technique.
I found a straightforward way to deal with the problem in Prepare Carefully--map generation wasn't mod-able when I started with the mod; I'm just going to convert it over to use that--but this could be a good solution for what I'm trying to accomplish in the Interface mod.
Quote from: TheSilencedScream on April 08, 2016, 02:51:30 AM
[ I said it months ago, but it's still true - the last version of the game that you mod for will almost certainly be my last as well. Tynan has an amazing game, but by opening it up to mods, it's to the point that I couldn't play without them.
I'm of the same mindset, EDP's mods are "must haves" to enjoy Rimworld for me, and I'll be sticking with A12 until such as they are updated.
@EdB
isn't it possible for you to convert Tynans "dev console" code for you stuff? With his dev tools, it is possible to change everything in the game - so it looks like most of the work is already done :)
I will pile on here and say "Ditto". I am not even going to start A13 until EdB's mods are up and running. I stopped playing this great game several months ago and am excited to have the new release but holding off until EdB is done.
Thanks EdB for your efforts!!!!!
If you get stuck EdB or want to bang some ideas about the modders slack is always open.
What they said. Waiting on this mod for A13.
I really think this mod should be part of the actual game. I know it's not Tynan's dream for the game but I think it adds to the long term playability of the game. They way I use it I'll take one group of survivors run a map, build up resources and a ship, and blast them off. I'll reload the saved characters, update their skills, add some years onto their lives depending on how many they were on the planet for and add a random amount of "sleep" time, add in any injuries they may have received, delete characters who died or captured, add in the resources I set aside for them to bring with them and start a new planet and colony. In essence planet hopping. It makes the game a bit more long term where you really have to think about upgrading your characters. Almost like RimRPG.
Without EDB and Prepare Carefully my interest in Rimworld only lasts so long. I hope to see this soon, but I'll eagerly wait as long as it takes.
Keep up the good work.
Quote from: EdB on April 07, 2016, 10:55:47 PM
Just a quick update:
Six months is a long time--I have not played RimWorld or looked at any of my mod code in about that long. I've been reserving judgement on what I was going to do about Prepare Carefully and the Interface mod until I got a chance to look at Alpha 13. I was hoping I could do a quick update to make it compatible with the new features, without doing any kind of major rethink. So far, that does not look likely. It looks like there's a change to the way that the game loads up the map that is no longer compatible with the core technique that I used to replace the UI in the Interface mod and to swap in all of your customizations from Prepare Carefully when you start a game.
I will spend some time to figure out if I can tweak it a bit to get it to work--there are a couple of alternatives that I'm considering--but parts of it may need some significant reworking, and I'm not sure how quickly that will happen.
So unfortunately, I have no estimate on when you might see Alpha 13 versions. It could be quite a while.
Have you tried reaching out to Tynan himself? I'm sure if you were to contact him with any advice help he might potentially point you in the right direction or even help you figure it out fairly quickly. You'll never know unless you ask right? In any case, keep up the great work on the mod!
I'm more than willing to wait for this mod. I can't play the game without this mod. I just can't. It's far to annoying trying to get colonists worth playing with by hitting random and far to annoying when you always get shorted on clothing. I won't play rimworld without this mod. So take your time EDB we'll all wait very happily for you.
*throws in chip with the rest*
I can't without prepare carefully anymore.
is all or nothing now :D
PS: we love your work on this :D
Without this mod the "Create characters" part is pretty much Randomize characters, so yeah, a must have to be honest. Keep up the good work EdB ;D
I play rimworld only with this mod. It's a core of the game for me. So i waiting for update :)
This mod is absolutely vital. Waiting for this mod to be updated before I play Alpha 13.
Depending on what you use Prepare Carefully for, you can do a bit of a work around using the Development Mode options... inputting in the weapons and animals you usually do... I know its not the exact same.. but it gives you a little of what you're looking for... also by 'randomizing' a character with only one or two traits that you actually wanted them to have you can give them the third in the debug actions menu...
It's not a replacement for Prepare Carefully by any means of the imagination... but until PC is working for A13... its the best we've got.
I'm going to TRY to play without this mod and the UI mod, but I know it'll feel like I'm working with only half the game. Take your time to do it right and don't stress. We're all gonna be ready whenever you are.
If you look around in your save game files for the person's name and know what his/her skill levels are, you can find the data and edit it with notepad.
Ug want prepare carfll.. Ug wait...
I have released a beta version of Prepare Carefully that works with Alpha 13. Find the link and more info in the original post.
Keep in mind that there is more work to do. It is not full-featured (which I guess technically makes it an alpha and not a beta), but it's a start.
Quote from: EdB on April 09, 2016, 07:55:58 PM
I have released a beta version of Prepare Carefully that works with Alpha 13. Find the link and more info in the original post.
Keep in mind that there is more work to do. It is not full-featured (which I guess technically makes it an alpha and not a beta), but it's a start.
Thank you based EdB, <3
Just created an account to say thanks my man. This mod is such a time saver. No longer need to sit there hitting "random" over and over when picking colonists. :)
Quote from: EdB on April 09, 2016, 07:55:58 PM
I have released a beta version of Prepare Carefully that works with Alpha 13. Find the link and more info in the original post.
Keep in mind that there is more work to do. It is not full-featured (which I guess technically makes it an alpha and not a beta), but it's a start.
<3 you man.
I'm honestly surprised he got an alpha version as quick as he did, very nice indeed.
Quote from: EdB on September 21, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
You cannot customize colonist relationships in this version. Relationships are chosen randomly.
Suits me just fine. If anything, I'd just want an option to just turn all starting relationships off entirely.
Good work as always, EdB!
Appreciate the fast "hotfix" update, but it seems the mod doesn't work for me.
It's like it's not enabled at all, but i checked the file paths and everything is as it should be.
EDIT: After restarting the game, the button appears! Again, thanks for the update!
Something I've noticed during A12 is it doesn't play well with mod-added pawn skills. Playing with the colony manager mod, it adds a new "managing" skill which wouldn't show up in the Prepare Carefully menu. I'm also adding a new pawn skill to CR which would run into the same issue. Its probably low priority with all the other A13 changes but it would be nice if you could include some functionality to let people see mod-added skills by giving the skill menu a scroll bar or some such.
Crashes under Linux with no log as the only mod loaded. I think it's the same error of defered assets loading in Colonist Bar.
Just wanted to say thanks for this mod in general and the quick a13 release in particular. I'm a big fan of Rimworld but being able to craft my own characters at the beginning of their story is particularly satisfying for me.
Prepare carefully-made colonists do not display social tab
EdB You Are AWESOME!
Quote from: Poebe on April 10, 2016, 03:54:16 PM
Prepare carefully-made colonists do not display social tab
Thanks for the bug report. Will look into it.
EDIT: Can someone else confirm that they are seeing this problem? The Social tab appears without a problem for me. Maybe specific customizations that you chose are triggering the problem? Or a mod conflict?
I don't even get the Prepare Carefully button. Only mod loaded is the beta for this one and Core.
Quote from: Arigas on April 10, 2016, 05:00:19 PM
I don't even get the Prepare Carefully button. Only mod loaded is the beta for this one and Core.
you have to restart after you create a world for it to show up.
Quote from: EdB on April 10, 2016, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: Poebe on April 10, 2016, 03:54:16 PM
Prepare carefully-made colonists do not display social tab
Thanks for the bug report. Will look into it.
EDIT: Can someone else confirm that they are seeing this problem? The Social tab appears without a problem for me. Maybe specific customizations that you chose are triggering the problem? Or a mod conflict?
I see the social bar just fine. None of the mods have (which are few since A13 is new) conflict.
Quote from: Dragoon on April 10, 2016, 05:11:18 PM
Quote from: Arigas on April 10, 2016, 05:00:19 PM
I don't even get the Prepare Carefully button. Only mod loaded is the beta for this one and Core.
you have to restart after you create a world for it to show up.
Mod is activated, created a new world default settings, closed the game, reopened it, went in to new colony on new world, no button.
Edit: Looks like the mod load order mod isn't even working for me. Going to try a fresh copy of the game, see if thats my problem.
Edit 2: Works finally with a fresh copy of the game files.
Edit 3: Social tab works fine for me.
(Linux version)
Mine is crashing at map selection, before the prepare carefully button is even displayed. I restarted the client after creating a new map for A13.
Log shows:
Could not load reference to Verse.ThingDef named Gun_Junker
Exception loading world from AlaraphIX.rww:
System.InvalidOperationException: SaveableFromNode exception: System.InvalidOperationException: SaveableFromNode exception: System.InvalidOperationException: SaveableFromNode exception: System.InvalidOperationException: SaveableFromNode exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[Edit]: Rebuilt the map once more and now I'm getting the prepare carfully button missing instead.
Quote from: Canute on April 11, 2016, 08:45:55 AM
Just a question, where did you got a A13 version of this mod ?
It is currently just for A12.
Check the original post, the author posted a beta of the A13 version.
Linux here.
Testing environment with only core and EdBPrepareCarefully.
New World, new game, PC, and just when I expect the escape pods to send my pawns down onto a distant Rimworld game crashes. Looks like the texture/resource loading problem lots of mods have when converting to A13 (same was with the EdB Colonist Bar).
Logfile: https://bpaste.net/show/eef123e64c16
PS: While trying to run with my usual mods, I ran into the missing button problem once, but this crash seems unrelated and a quick reload of the mods (Mod menu open and close again) seems to fix that one...
EdB I've been using prepare carefully on every world since I found it. Keep up the amazing work. One bug on the beta though, my colonists wont wander, the only way they move after they land is when I draft them.
Quote from: Saintevil11 on April 11, 2016, 10:23:35 AM
my colonists wont wander, the only way they move after they land is when I draft them.
Had the same problem in a save, but I hadnt even gotten the button for the mod on this save either. It was just one colonist with the lazy trait who did not move unless drafted, thats the one thing id noticed that set him out.
Somehow, I had this working with my soup of mods, but I have resently updated and installed more mods that have updated. Now all of a sudden, after redoing the mods list, new world, and new settlement, my pawns are NOT being saved in prep carefully. I get a random 3 pawns..not what I pick.
I'd love to trace this to w/e is causing this, anyone have any tips in debugging rimworld? Seems the log, gives obfuscated or just simply compiled symbols? Can't even tell what mod is crashing....
EDIT: I have singled out what is causing this. Its the colonist bar (the simple one for A13)
Removing that mod made prep carefully work again, but this is no good! I need BOTH! This to play my custom senerio I always do (which will be lovely once relationships are moddable) and the other just to KNOW who the HELL is in my place!!
No rush, just letting everyone know.
Quote from: Starhero on April 11, 2016, 04:39:03 PM
Somehow, I had this working with my soup of mods, but I have resently updated and installed more mods that have updated. Now all of a sudden, after redoing the mods list, new world, and new settlement, my pawns are NOT being saved in prep carefully. I get a random 3 pawns..not what I pick.
I'd love to trace this to w/e is causing this, anyone have any tips in debugging rimworld? Seems the log, gives obfuscated or just simply compiled symbols? Can't even tell what mod is crashing....
EDIT: I have singled out what is causing this. Its the colonist bar (the simple one for A13)
Removing that mod made prep carefully work again, but this is no good! I need BOTH! This to play my custom senerio I always do (which will be lovely once relationships are moddable) and the other just to KNOW who the HELL is in my place!!
No rush, just letting everyone know.
I had the same problem but it fixed itself when i reordered the mods.
Quote from: Saintevil11 on April 11, 2016, 10:23:35 AM
EdB I've been using prepare carefully on every world since I found it. Keep up the amazing work. One bug on the beta though, my colonists wont wander, the only way they move after they land is when I draft them.
i have had this problem. when i tried to use Hospitality. Worked fine after i uninstalled Hospitality maybe they conflict?
Hello EdB,
I think there is a conflict with Hospitality Mod. When activated together, I have one or more immobile colon. They can neither move nor sleep. I don't know if the problem is just for me, but I prefer to report if others have the same problem.
EDIT: Oops sorry, same message like DarknessLilly, it wasn't posted when I started my message ^^
Hey! First i have to say, awesome mod, thank you for all the work!
I also want to report the same "bug" mentioned above. Would be awesome if your Mod and Hospitality are able to co-exist.
I also had the same problem. I haven't tested out the idea, but what might work is to use prepare carefully to get your colonists on the ground, and then save and exit, disable the mod, and then maybe it would work with Hospitality. I haven't put this to the test yet, but it might work.
Quote from: something776 on April 12, 2016, 08:22:19 AM
I also had the same problem. I haven't tested out the idea, but what might work is to use prepare carefully to get your colonists on the ground, and then save and exit, disable the mod, and then maybe it would work with Hospitality. I haven't put this to the test yet, but it might work.
I thought of this aswell but never tested it. You probably would need to edit the save file for that to work, which doesn't seem hard to do.
I actually have gone back to A12 as I was enjoying hardcore SK mod and until that is updated, the features for this update aren't as exciting as SK right now for me. esp since I haven't survived long enough to get anywhere decent.
Plus, I need the colonist bar, I litterally will LOSE the dudes if I don't have it. :P
Im having the same issue w/o it my colonist wont eat or anything. just throws red acceptions ill fiddle around a bit.
Registered to say thanks to EdB for this mod and for taking the time to update it. Much appreciated.
Since this morning this mod does not work anymore (started a new game). I have no clue why, because last night I played with the mod without issues....
Thanks Edb. This to me is a must have mod. I tried A13 out briefly without this and just couldn't seem to care for my survivors.
waiting for a13 prep carefully *intensifies*.
/bump, this is likely the most important mod ingame tbh unless you want to waste time click the random button until you get palatable colonists. Case to point last game my first 3 colonists had 2 no dumb labour and the 3rd got into a shooting argument with another within 1/3 of the day cut off his leg..
if you do not want to waste your time with unplayable colonists you just have to wait until Prepare carefully works.
Sweet modpack love it, curious about the work speed factor on workbench, particularly iron versus steel workbench. The iron one seems to give a better work speed, is this intended or am i missing something? looking at the butchers bench, haven't checked others yet. Iron gives 110% and steel only 80%.
Cheers
Quote from: goonygoogoo on April 14, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Sweet modpack love it, curious about the work speed factor on workbench, particularly iron versus steel workbench. The iron one seems to give a better work speed, is this intended or am i missing something? looking at the butchers bench, haven't checked others yet. Iron gives 110% and steel only 80%.
Cheers
I dont understand. Am I lost?
Quote from: goonygoogoo on April 14, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Sweet modpack love it, curious about the work speed factor on workbench, particularly iron versus steel workbench. The iron one seems to give a better work speed, is this intended or am i missing something? looking at the butchers bench, haven't checked others yet. Iron gives 110% and steel only 80%.
Cheers
Wrong mod lol
Man thank you so much for Making this mod.
Have you a donation thingy? I'd like to buy you a six pack o beer.
Quote from: gigan on April 14, 2016, 05:53:17 PM
Man thank you so much for Making this mod.
Have you a donation thingy? I'd like to buy you a six pack o beer.
I second this motion. :)
Note to those who mod alot:
The current A13 version does NOT work with the GlitterTech mod. Found this out the hard way. :)
It will start you with a random party and the original random equipment if you try.
Quote from: Lori1979 on April 13, 2016, 06:16:17 AM
Since this morning this mod does not work anymore (started a new game). I have no clue why, because last night I played with the mod without issues....
Same problem, it worked, started a new game, now it doesn't work
FYI EnviroSeed (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16446.0) also breaks this and causes you to spawn with 3 randoms.
Quote from: Wolfen Waffle on April 15, 2016, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Lori1979 on April 13, 2016, 06:16:17 AM
Since this morning this mod does not work anymore (started a new game). I have no clue why, because last night I played with the mod without issues....
Same problem, it worked, started a new game, now it doesn't work
Quote from: Lori1979 on April 13, 2016, 06:16:17 AM
Since this morning this mod does not work anymore (started a new game). I have no clue why, because last night I played with the mod without issues....
I've had this issue as well. What I noticed was after exiting a game and going to start a new one that the Prepare Carefully option wasn't there. I managed to get to work again by completely exiting out of Rimworld and then launching it again. That fixes the issue for me (until I want to make another world again). Hopefully this'll help you guys.
Quote from: Herzer on April 15, 2016, 07:21:35 PM
Quote from: Wolfen Waffle on April 15, 2016, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Lori1979 on April 13, 2016, 06:16:17 AM
Since this morning this mod does not work anymore (started a new game). I have no clue why, because last night I played with the mod without issues....
Same problem, it worked, started a new game, now it doesn't work
Quote from: Lori1979 on April 13, 2016, 06:16:17 AM
Since this morning this mod does not work anymore (started a new game). I have no clue why, because last night I played with the mod without issues....
I've had this issue as well. What I noticed was after exiting a game and going to start a new one that the Prepare Carefully option wasn't there. I managed to get to work again by completely exiting out of Rimworld and then launching it again. That fixes the issue for me (until I want to make another world again). Hopefully this'll help you guys.
Same, same, same. Except:
I opened up this morning, downloaded a bunch more mods and tried to start a new game, only to be getting random colonists and default gear.
I went back and removed mods one by one to see where the conflict was, but found no single mod changed it even after a reboot. Weird.
So i added all the mods back in a random order, and hey! I got my custom colonists to land, Sans custom gear (Notably, i added a pair of cows and chickens, which didnt show up.)
Played for a while until my entire settlement caught fire in the biggest BS flash-storm ive ever seen.
So i just now tried to restart somewhere else, and whadda ya know? Everything is random again.
So, in a fit on randomness, i - using modloader - shoved Prepare Carefully to the very bottom of the load list and, whadda ya know, its working! Custom gear and all!
TL;DR, try and Shove Prepare Carefully at the bottom of the mod load list and it might work again. I dunno. Im just randomly clicking things atm.
I'm playing on Alpha 13 and the Prepare Carefully button isn't there. I have the mod enabled in Mods, I did put the extracted folder in the mods folder. I'm using the Alpha 13 beta release, not any other versions.
Quote from: bczink on April 16, 2016, 09:17:16 AM
I'm playing on Alpha 13 and the Prepare Carefully button isn't there. I have the mod enabled in Mods, I did put the extracted folder in the mods folder. I'm using the Alpha 13 beta release, not any other versions.
I have had the same problem in the past, try deleting the folder in your mod's folder, and then putting it back in, that has worked for me in the past.
It keeps the characters stats and looks but not the equipment I choose.
Quote from: Herzer on April 15, 2016, 07:21:35 PM
I've had this issue as well. What I noticed was after exiting a game and going to start a new one that the Prepare Carefully option wasn't there. I managed to get to work again by completely exiting out of Rimworld and then launching it again. That fixes the issue for me (until I want to make another world again). Hopefully this'll help you guys.
I am looking at these issues. It sounds like there are a couple things happening that are causing the mod to not recognize that it should add the "Prepare Carefully" button to the vanilla character maker page. The only definite scenario that I've found is this one: if you choose an invalid starting location on the world map, and it shows you a message like "You cannot land in this biome", it will not display the button as long as that message appears at the top of the screen. You will likely need to restart the game to get the button to show up.
Again, I'm working on it.
Quote from: hwoo on April 16, 2016, 10:49:53 AM
It keeps the characters stats and looks but not the equipment I choose.
Quote from: dmjcn on April 16, 2016, 06:18:12 AM
TL;DR, try and Shove Prepare Carefully at the bottom of the mod load list and it might work again. I dunno. Im just randomly clicking things atm.
Just a note that this mod overrides the game's default map generation. If another mod also modifies the map generation, it will conflict with this one. The description of getting all of the characters stats, but none of their equipment--that sounds like something you'd see if the prepare carefully map generation is not happening.
Setting prepare carefully as the last mod in your mod loading order will guarantee that the prepare carefully map generation will take precedence, but it might cause problems for the mods that conflict.
Small Bug -
While in Prepare Carefully, it showed a relationship between two of my colonists (Wife/Husband), but when the game started they no longer have any relationship.
Could be mod conflicts but, figure it's worth mentioning.
Quote from: DirkDiggler on April 16, 2016, 01:16:13 PM
Small Bug -
While in Prepare Carefully, it showed a relationship between two of my colonists (Wife/Husband), but when the game started they no longer have any relationship.
Could be mod conflicts but, figure it's worth mentioning.
Right now, it's just regenerating random relationships after the game starts, so any relationships that you might see before clicking the "Prepare Carefully" button are getting replaced.
I will be adding a way to customize relationships, so this issue will be fixed when that's complete.
Quote from: bczink on April 16, 2016, 09:17:16 AM
I'm playing on Alpha 13 and the Prepare Carefully button isn't there. I have the mod enabled in Mods, I did put the extracted folder in the mods folder. I'm using the Alpha 13 beta release, not any other versions.
Maybe you have double folders? Mods/EdbPrepareCarefullyxxx/EdbPrepareCarefully
It happened to me and I made sure that the arrangement of folders were in order Mods/EdbPrepareCarefully . This happened to me when I extracted the rar files. But you may already know that but it doesn't hurt to check. XD XD XD
Quote from: EdB on April 16, 2016, 01:40:57 PM
Quote from: DirkDiggler on April 16, 2016, 01:16:13 PM
Small Bug -
While in Prepare Carefully, it showed a relationship between two of my colonists (Wife/Husband), but when the game started they no longer have any relationship.
Could be mod conflicts but, figure it's worth mentioning.
Right now, it's just regenerating random relationships after the game starts, so any relationships that you might see before clicking the "Prepare Carefully" button are getting replaced.
I will be adding a way to customize relationships, so this issue will be fixed when that's complete.
Okay no worries! Thanks for this mod, can't play Rimworld without it!
thanks EdB for your mods and your hard work for the community ! I won't touch the A13 w/o Prepare carefully and EdB interface. Can we have a quick update as when you roughly expect to be done with them?
And thanks again ! you changed my RW experience (for the better :) )
Quote from: suivezlemir on April 16, 2016, 02:39:54 PM
thanks EdB for your mods and your hard work for the community ! I won't touch the A13 w/o Prepare carefully and EdB interface. Can we have a quick update as when you roughly expect to be done with them?
And thanks again ! you changed my RW experience (for the better :) )
This reminds me of a Dilbert strip. The (pointy-haired) manager called a meeting to find out why the project was (still) late, and expected daily status reports on why it was late (thus interrupt the daily workflow again) - the short of it is, everyone who's checking this corner of the forum wants to know the second this mod is working, but asking for status updates is potentially taking away from the time that could be spent working on this. I'm not speaking on behalf of EdB; just myself because I know how it feels when people do that.
Quote from: makkenhoff on April 16, 2016, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: suivezlemir on April 16, 2016, 02:39:54 PM
thanks EdB for your mods and your hard work for the community ! I won't touch the A13 w/o Prepare carefully and EdB interface. Can we have a quick update as when you roughly expect to be done with them?
And thanks again ! you changed my RW experience (for the better :) )
This reminds me of a Dilbert strip. The (pointy-haired) manager called a meeting to find out why the project was (still) late, and expected daily status reports on why it was late (thus interrupt the daily workflow again) - the short of it is, everyone who's checking this corner of the forum wants to know the second this mod is working, but asking for status updates is potentially taking away from the time that could be spent working on this. I'm not speaking on behalf of EdB; just myself because I know how it feels when people do that.
Exactly. I'm fairly certain EdB realizes how much people like his mods and is working as fast as he can to get them out. The A13 versions will be here when they get here. In the meantime, there's fluffy's pawn bar to get your pawn bar fix and I'm enjoying the added difficulty of not being able to decide everything from my first colonists childhood down to what color their shoe laces are.
Take your time EdB! Your mods are awesome and I have no problem waiting a while until you can get them the way you'd like before release.
Quote from: winowmak3r on April 16, 2016, 07:41:48 PM
Quote from: makkenhoff on April 16, 2016, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: suivezlemir on April 16, 2016, 02:39:54 PM
thanks EdB for your mods and your hard work for the community ! I won't touch the A13 w/o Prepare carefully and EdB interface. Can we have a quick update as when you roughly expect to be done with them?
And thanks again ! you changed my RW experience (for the better :) )
This reminds me of a Dilbert strip. The (pointy-haired) manager called a meeting to find out why the project was (still) late, and expected daily status reports on why it was late (thus interrupt the daily workflow again) - the short of it is, everyone who's checking this corner of the forum wants to know the second this mod is working, but asking for status updates is potentially taking away from the time that could be spent working on this. I'm not speaking on behalf of EdB; just myself because I know how it feels when people do that.
Exactly. I'm fairly certain EdB realizes how much people like his mods and is working as fast as he can to get them out. The A13 versions will be here when they get here. In the meantime, there's fluffy's pawn bar to get your pawn bar fix and I'm enjoying the added difficulty of not being able to decide everything from my first colonists childhood down to what color their shoe laces are.
Take your time EdB! Your mods are awesome and I have no problem waiting a while until you can get them the way you'd like before release.
Last update to EdB's Colonist Bar got the memory leak fixed :)
Oh really? Awesome, will give that a shot tonight then, glad I read this now as I was just about to start up another colony.
Hey EdB i just wanted to say thank you. I make a fairly large KSP mod and know exactly how it feels to have an update show up out of the blue and wreak house. Modding is often very thankless work and people rarely truly realize how much work has to go into the smallest of changes. So once again thank you for sticking with it and continuing to be a prime example of what a good modder should be. Take it easy!
I have a question/feature request for Prepare Carefully: When selecting a colonists childhood and/or adult job, would it be possible to add a filter for skills and or forbidden tasks? Say I select the "Mining" skill filter, it will only show me childhoods that give +mining.
Quote from: Snownova on April 17, 2016, 04:16:20 AM
I have a question/feature request for Prepare Carefully: When selecting a colonists childhood and/or adult job, would it be possible to add a filter for skills and or forbidden tasks? Say I select the "Mining" skill filter, it will only show me childhoods that give +mining.
I agree to this. Enabling and Disabling available tasks manually is what I want, I don't like my characters to be restricted. :<
Quote from: Mufflamingo on April 17, 2016, 09:33:38 AM
Quote from: Snownova on April 17, 2016, 04:16:20 AM
I have a question/feature request for Prepare Carefully: When selecting a colonists childhood and/or adult job, would it be possible to add a filter for skills and or forbidden tasks? Say I select the "Mining" skill filter, it will only show me childhoods that give +mining.
I agree to this. Enabling and Disabling available tasks manually is what I want, I don't like my characters to be restricted. :<
But this is dependent on each pawn's backstories, and probably not moddable as it currently is.
Quote from: geekest_cat on April 17, 2016, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: Mufflamingo on April 17, 2016, 09:33:38 AM
Quote from: Snownova on April 17, 2016, 04:16:20 AM
I have a question/feature request for Prepare Carefully: When selecting a colonists childhood and/or adult job, would it be possible to add a filter for skills and or forbidden tasks? Say I select the "Mining" skill filter, it will only show me childhoods that give +mining.
I agree to this. Enabling and Disabling available tasks manually is what I want, I don't like my characters to be restricted. :<
But this is dependent on each pawn's backstories, and probably not moddable as it currently is.
Why wouldn't it be? It would take a couple of hours and a bit of GUI tweaking to add a filter to the drop down list that the mod already adds to character creation.
Hate to post a bug without the full report but I got wife kids yada hopefully I can nail it down tonight - I built my 3 guys went to the next screen - took off the gun and the knife gave them 2 more survival rifles - needed points went back to the guys and went to remove social flame from someone and noticed instead of giving me points it took points away so in order to have +11 points or whatever I had to give everyone a flame in something they had no flame in before it was weird. Then my doctor died of the plague (gimmie the watch) so I'll be restarting tonight I'll try and recreate it.
edit:
So this time when I entered the gear screen I had points left over - same thing remove the gun and the knife add two rifles - then back to the main character setup. had 393 points put 1 fire on medical took away some points put two fire on medical and got 503 points - so this is great! I'll put double fire on everything have a ton of points ! No luck its only on the first thing I click previously social and this time medical. and whatever "gets the bug" keeps it, I couldn't give the bug to the other two guys. Just happened to do it on the 3rd and last toon didn't try to give the funk to the second guy though I'm sure I'll die again tonight and try and recreate it tomorrow.
I'm having issues where it doesnt give me the modified version of colonists/starter items.
I'm going above the regular " points ", with the option disabled, and ADDING some mods as starter items (Seeds)
2 things...
1. Thank you for the "No Extra Points" option, it really helps my role-play even though i still get stomped into the dirt.
2. Any chance of an additional feature to choose or designate relationships with other colonists? like choosing who's sibling or lovers or married (all regardless of gender)?
Quote from: lance789 on April 18, 2016, 01:12:45 AM
2. Any chance of an additional feature to choose or designate relationships with other colonists? like choosing who's sibling or lovers or married (all regardless of gender)?
Yes.
Quote from: EdB on April 16, 2016, 01:40:57 PMRight now, it's just regenerating random relationships after the game starts, so any relationships that you might see before clicking the "Prepare Carefully" button are getting replaced.
I will be adding a way to customize relationships, so this issue will be fixed when that's complete.
Great, thanks!
Quote from: Mufflamingo on April 17, 2016, 09:33:38 AM
Quote from: Snownova on April 17, 2016, 04:16:20 AM
I have a question/feature request for Prepare Carefully: When selecting a colonists childhood and/or adult job, would it be possible to add a filter for skills and or forbidden tasks? Say I select the "Mining" skill filter, it will only show me childhoods that give +mining.
I agree to this. Enabling and Disabling available tasks manually is what I want, I don't like my characters to be restricted. :<
No, you misunderstand my suggestion, I merely want filters in the list of childhoods and backstories, not to manually toggle each work type.
Any ETA on the update proper?
Anyone know how to get the a13 beta to work with the skill decay be gone mod? They seem to conflict each other.
Quote from: calmatt on April 18, 2016, 08:37:04 PM
Anyone know how to get the a13 beta to work with the skill decay be gone mod? They seem to conflict each other.
I use Mad Skills (if that's the skill mod you were talking about). In order, my first three loading mods are: EdB Mod Order, EdB Prepare Carefully, and Mad Skills, and it works fine with all my decoration mods after it.
Also, I found that if one of my mods glitch, I build a new world and colony helps to fix some things. So, if it's a saved game, you may not be able to use all the mods.
Quote from: calmatt on April 18, 2016, 08:37:04 PM
Anyone know how to get the a13 beta to work with the skill decay be gone mod? They seem to conflict each other.
mod order? or just start dev mode and give them the skills I know not as nice but.
is anyone having the same problem where you don't get the colonists you created and get randomised ones ? it keeps happening for me , and I don't know why ? might there be a mod conflicting with it ? or is it a known bug ?
Quote from: andregerada on April 19, 2016, 06:19:33 AM
is anyone having the same problem where you don't get the colonists you created and get randomised ones ? it keeps happening for me , and I don't know why ? might there be a mod conflicting with it ? or is it a known bug ?
I've never had that happen. If you think it might be another mod, it would help if you post your mod list and the order in which they are loaded.
This is my modlist and the order in which they are loading
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@andregerada - I'm not sure about the mods you use, I'm not using many of them. But, you can search in the "Mods" folder for "MapGenerators.xml", if you find other beside in side "EdBPrepareCarefully" they will override "EdBPrepareCarefully"'s "MapGenerators.xml". If you change the loadorder so you get "EdBPrepareCarefully"'s "MapGenerators.xml" to override the other mods you'll lose what they do in the"MapGenerators.xml" they have. :-\
@andregerada - My guess would be that upcrafter could be causing the problem. Since it might change the map generation to spawn it's own resources.
moving EdBPrepareCarefully to the back seems to have fixed the issue .... now to see if there are any problems with upcrafter's setup . thanks for the quick replies guys :)
Quote from: andregerada on April 19, 2016, 09:19:04 AM
moving EdBPrepareCarefully to the back seems to have fixed the issue .... now to see if there are any problems with upcrafter's setup . thanks for the quick replies guys :)
What you can do is make a "Fix mod" where you combine(merge) the mods that use the "MapGenerators.xml" together. *Notepad++ with the plugin called "Combine" is a way to do that*
Can't get the beta to work on my game and don't even get the button to appear. Had it appear once but it didn't open the menu.
The A13 beta crashes my game right after i have finished customizing my dudes. Tested with and without other mods, as soon as i remove the beta, the game works fine. No idea how some people get it working?
Quote from: andregerada on April 19, 2016, 07:04:34 AM
This is my modlist and the order in which they are loading
Slightly off topic, but how did you get your mod list to show up in non-alphabetical order? My mod list just adds a number to designate their order, but actually moving them up/down in a list would be much easier to organize, as I have just as many mods as you do.
Edit: Nevermind, I just google'd it and found EdB's mod order mod. EdB has got the best mods! :)
Quote from: warden on April 19, 2016, 01:52:10 PM
The A13 beta crashes my game right after i have finished customizing my dudes. Tested with and without other mods, as soon as i remove the beta, the game works fine. No idea how some people get it working?
I have no problems using mod order - EdB colony bar - EdB recycle and rt storage and prepare carefully (loaded last) haven't tried it just with EdB-PC but then again I didn't play 13 until PC was beta so for all I know vanilla wont work.
Quote from: warden on April 19, 2016, 01:52:10 PM
The A13 beta crashes my game right after i have finished customizing my dudes. Tested with and without other mods, as soon as i remove the beta, the game works fine. No idea how some people get it working?
Same here. But I believe my reason is that the beta just doesn't work with linux yet. Crashes even when the only mod. I've posted a crashlog before, where the problematic function is shown in a stacktrace.
V
hi, i´ve noticed something thats a bit too much of a cheat.
my wife was creating a new colony and we´re using this mod https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0) with some others and ur´s. it adds the "Robot" Trait which is pretty imba with +100 mood and psycho influenz etc.
would be nice if u could do something to vorbid this trait from character creation.
I'll try in the order you posted but I've been having trouble getting them to work, and yea mad skills is the mod I use.
Hi, I confirm that EdB Prepare Carefully not compatibility with Colony Manager V2, try to remove it first.
So I'm having a bit of an issue. My Prepare Carefully button has vanished from any new game I start, but worked previously. I checked my mod directory to make sure I hadn't done something to it in a drunken stupor, and it's all fine.
Quote from: Vee on April 19, 2016, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: warden on April 19, 2016, 01:52:10 PM
The A13 beta crashes my game right after i have finished customizing my dudes. Tested with and without other mods, as soon as i remove the beta, the game works fine. No idea how some people get it working?
Same here. But I believe my reason is that the beta just doesn't work with linux yet. Crashes even when the only mod. I've posted a crashlog before, where the problematic function is shown in a stacktrace.
V
This might be it, i'm running Linux too. I wouldn't have thought that to be an issue with a mod, but thanks for clearing it up. :) I'll wait until the next version.
Quote from: Severik on April 19, 2016, 04:40:35 PM
hi, i´ve noticed something thats a bit too much of a cheat.
my wife was creating a new colony and we´re using this mod https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0) with some others and ur´s. it adds the "Robot" Trait which is pretty imba with +100 mood and psycho influenz etc.
would be nice if u could do something to vorbid this trait from character creation.
It's not EdB's job to police the other mods that you use. Prepare Carefully allows you to make your colonists however you like, not be perfectly balanced.
Quote from: Severik on April 19, 2016, 04:40:35 PM
hi, i´ve noticed something thats a bit too much of a cheat.
my wife was creating a new colony and we´re using this mod https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0) with some others and ur´s. it adds the "Robot" Trait which is pretty imba with +100 mood and psycho influenz etc.
would be nice if u could do something to vorbid this trait from character creation.
You could you know, choose not to add that trait at character creation?
Quote from: warden on April 20, 2016, 12:06:06 AM
Quote from: Vee on April 19, 2016, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: warden on April 19, 2016, 01:52:10 PM
The A13 beta crashes my game right after i have finished customizing my dudes. Tested with and without other mods, as soon as i remove the beta, the game works fine. No idea how some people get it working?
Same here. But I believe my reason is that the beta just doesn't work with linux yet. Crashes even when the only mod. I've posted a crashlog before, where the problematic function is shown in a stacktrace.
V
This might be it, i'm running Linux too. I wouldn't have thought that to be an issue with a mod, but thanks for clearing it up. :) I'll wait until the next version.
Rimworld A13 itself brings a few caveats for linux (modded). For example loading textures the 'old' way doesn't throw any errors for windows, but linux crashes. I can't proove it, but I think they do things a little different depending if you run RW on linux or windows...
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Is the fix hard for Linux?
The Alpha 13 beta won't work for me.I am running with other mods, but even when I try to turn those off and only use EdB Prepare Carefully, the texture for the language is missing and the button doesn't show up for Prepare Carefully. I tried to delete the mod config, it didn't work when I reinstalled it.
Quote from: notfood on April 20, 2016, 03:56:24 PM
Is the fix hard for Linux?
Just a quick update. I will likely release a fix for this over the weekend. I will need some help testing--I have Windows and Mac to test but not Linux.
I will prioritize that bug fix, but I am also working on other bugs and adding full support for relationships. I did the design for the relationship UI this past weekend--it's a little challenging to fit more stuff in that screen, but I think it looks ok. I just need to code it now.
Thanks for the continued patience. Unfortunately, you don't always have as much time as you'd like to work on your hobbies.
Quote from: EdB on April 20, 2016, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: notfood on April 20, 2016, 03:56:24 PM
Is the fix hard for Linux?
Just a quick update. I will likely release a fix for this over the weekend. I will need some help testing--I have Windows and Mac to test but not Linux.
I will prioritize that bug fix, but I am also working on other bugs and adding full support for relationships. I did the design for the relationship UI this past weekend--it's a little challenging to fit more stuff in that screen, but I think it looks ok. I just need to code it now.
Thanks for the continued patience. Unfortunately, you don't always have as much time as you'd like to work on your hobbies.
I don't mind testing. Thanks for working on it!
I can test it under Linux.
Quote from: notfood on April 21, 2016, 01:53:29 AM
I can test it under Linux.
I'd be happy to test as well. Thanks for your efforts, don't neglect the RL for it and take your time.
God Damn Edb where do you get all the time for this mod? i know these mods are simple. but they are very vital to Rimworld, (Thanks by the way for the best mod)
true that, it is a mod that i will never play rimworld without. i do hope this and the interface mod is updated soon
For some reason the Prepare Carefully button won't appear, and the language flag is replaced with a missing texture. I am playing on the Alpha 13 beta. I've tried to reinstall it, and I am using the beta version. It isn't in a compressed folder, so I'm not sure what is wrong with it.
Read the first post in this thread. It has not been completely updated for Alpha 13 yet. It looks like there is a test "beta" version, but a full release is not ready yet. The Alpha 12 version will not work with Alpha 13.
I am so looking forward to this and interface being updated for A13. I love these mods
Quote from: Vee on April 21, 2016, 02:29:08 AM
Quote from: notfood on April 21, 2016, 01:53:29 AM
I can test it under Linux.
I'd be happy to test as well. Thanks for your efforts, don't neglect the RL for it and take your time.
For those of you running Linux, if you want to try out this version and see if it fixes the problem, that would be a big help.
Prepare Carefully 0.13.0.3Let me know if you're still getting crashes. This is mostly just an attempted fix for Linux. There are a couple of fixes for an issue that prevented the "Prepare Carefully" button from showing up, and you might see a gap in the UI as I get ready to add a "relationships" tab--but no functionality available for that yet.
EDIT: Removed the download link. A newer version can be found in the posts below.
Quote from: EdB on April 22, 2016, 09:37:21 PM
For those of you running Linux, if you want to try out this version and see if it fixes the problem, that would be a big help.
Prepare Carefully 0.13.0.3 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wj0y4vr12dnf31/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.0.3.zip?dl=0)
Let me know if you're still getting crashes. This is mostly just an attempted fix for Linux. There are a couple of fixes for an issue that prevented the "Prepare Carefully" button from showing up, and you might see a gap in the UI as I get ready to add a "relationships" tab--but no functionality available for that yet.
The button shows up fine, but my game still crashes when i click Finish after selecting my colonists. It happened with and without customizing them, first i made just one guy and the next time went with whatever it gave by default. Also crashes with or without other mods.
The game launches fine if i never touch the "Prepare Carefully" button but still have the mod enabled.
Quote from: EdB on April 22, 2016, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: Vee on April 21, 2016, 02:29:08 AM
Quote from: notfood on April 21, 2016, 01:53:29 AM
I can test it under Linux.
I'd be happy to test as well. Thanks for your efforts, don't neglect the RL for it and take your time.
For those of you running Linux, if you want to try out this version and see if it fixes the problem, that would be a big help.
Prepare Carefully 0.13.0.3 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wj0y4vr12dnf31/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.0.3.zip?dl=0)
Let me know if you're still getting crashes. This is mostly just an attempted fix for Linux. There are a couple of fixes for an issue that prevented the "Prepare Carefully" button from showing up, and you might see a gap in the UI as I get ready to add a "relationships" tab--but no functionality available for that yet.
Crashes with no log under Linux.
Quote from: EdB on April 22, 2016, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: Vee on April 21, 2016, 02:29:08 AM
Quote from: notfood on April 21, 2016, 01:53:29 AM
I can test it under Linux.
I'd be happy to test as well. Thanks for your efforts, don't neglect the RL for it and take your time.
For those of you running Linux, if you want to try out this version and see if it fixes the problem, that would be a big help.
Prepare Carefully 0.13.0.3 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wj0y4vr12dnf31/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.0.3.zip?dl=0)
Let me know if you're still getting crashes. This is mostly just an attempted fix for Linux. There are a couple of fixes for an issue that prevented the "Prepare Carefully" button from showing up, and you might see a gap in the UI as I get ready to add a "relationships" tab--but no functionality available for that yet.
Sorry to report a crash as well, but I got a log for you:
https://bpaste.net/show/dfc739cb6316
This is with only EdBPrepareCarefully (and Core) activated, after cleanining up ModsConfig.xml; new World, new Colony, no changes to the randomly generated Pawns made.
Linux users: How to generate a logfile.
This is undocumented, I am not affiliated with Ludeon, so take everything with a grain of salt.
1st - don't use the startup script supplied by Ludeon, it loads without logging turned on.
2nd - run the respective executable (RimWorld1135Linux.x86 or RimWorld1135Linux.x86_64) with environment and options as follows - substitute your executable if needed and the path and filename for the logfile:
RimWorld1135Linux $ LC_ALL=C ./RimWorld1135Linux.x86_64 -logfile /path/to/logfile
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I can test it under Linux.
I'd be happy to test as well. Thanks for your efforts, don't neglect the RL for it and take your time.
For those of you running Linux, if you want to try out this version and see if it fixes the problem, that would be a big help.
Prepare Carefully 0.13.0.3 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wj0y4vr12dnf31/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.0.3.zip?dl=0)
Let me know if you're still getting crashes. This is mostly just an attempted fix for Linux. There are a couple of fixes for an issue that prevented the "Prepare Carefully" button from showing up, and you might see a gap in the UI as I get ready to add a "relationships" tab--but no functionality available for that yet.
Sorry to report a crash as well, but I got a log for you:
https://bpaste.net/show/dfc739cb6316
This is with only EdBPrepareCarefully (and Core) activated, after cleanining up ModsConfig.xml; new World, new Colony, no changes to the randomly generated Pawns made.
Thanks. Got it. That makes sense. I forgot about the textures that I'm loading to draw the colonists.
Quote from: EdB on April 23, 2016, 09:39:20 AM
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Quote from: notfood on April 21, 2016, 01:53:29 AM
I can test it under Linux.
I'd be happy to test as well. Thanks for your efforts, don't neglect the RL for it and take your time.
For those of you running Linux, if you want to try out this version and see if it fixes the problem, that would be a big help.
Prepare Carefully 0.13.0.3 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wj0y4vr12dnf31/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.0.3.zip?dl=0)
Let me know if you're still getting crashes. This is mostly just an attempted fix for Linux. There are a couple of fixes for an issue that prevented the "Prepare Carefully" button from showing up, and you might see a gap in the UI as I get ready to add a "relationships" tab--but no functionality available for that yet.
Sorry to report a crash as well, but I got a log for you:
https://bpaste.net/show/dfc739cb6316
This is with only EdBPrepareCarefully (and Core) activated, after cleanining up ModsConfig.xml; new World, new Colony, no changes to the randomly generated Pawns made.
Thanks. Got it. That makes sense. I forgot about the textures that I'm loading to draw the colonists.
tried usb boot of Ubuntu 15.10 put rimworld on it - 10 mods like RT mod and more joy and all EdB and my "standard" play everything worked good for me. no issues yet but I only got as far as building bedrooms but my template colonists showed up on the planet and my 3 rifles I always pick so it looks fine to me.
The Prepare Carefully button won't show up in Alpha 13. I didn't double compress it, and I am using the Prepare Carefully 13 version. I did turn it on, and I turned off all other mods.
Quote from: bczink on April 23, 2016, 10:30:10 AM
The Prepare Carefully button won't show up in Alpha 13. I didn't double compress it, and I am using the Prepare Carefully 13 version. I did turn it on, and I turned off all other mods.
Super weird! I just launched a colony with prepare carefully working and created a new preset. Quit to main menu and tried to start a new colony (literally two minutes later!) and I am having the same problem! No change in my mod configuration or anything!
Quote from: madpluck on April 23, 2016, 10:35:58 AM
Quote from: bczink on April 23, 2016, 10:30:10 AM
The Prepare Carefully button won't show up in Alpha 13. I didn't double compress it, and I am using the Prepare Carefully 13 version. I did turn it on, and I turned off all other mods.
Super weird! I just launched a colony with prepare carefully working and created a new preset. Quit to main menu and tried to start a new colony (literally two minutes later!) and I am having the same problem! No change in my mod configuration or anything!
It is very weird. I've got a couple of possible causes that I'm investigating. If you're not using the version that I posted yesterday (0.13.0.3; see the download link 4 or 5 posts up), give that a try.
The button for body parts in the Hair/Head/Pants/etc. list also seems to be missing for me - is that new?
Quote from: Vee on April 23, 2016, 04:49:35 AM
This is with only EdBPrepareCarefully (and Core) activated, after cleanining up ModsConfig.xml; new World, new Colony, no changes to the randomly generated Pawns made.
Linux users, please try this one:
Prepare Carefully 0.13.0.4 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg7juwyiqhini60/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.0.4.zip?dl=0)
As has been described by Fluffy elsewhere, there was a change in alpha 13 in the way that the game loads mods, graphics, etc. If graphics are being loaded in a separate execution thread, this is crashing Linux. So the fix here is just to find all of the places where I'm loading graphics in a separate thread. For the most part, it's obvious where I'm doing that. With the version I released yesterday, I missed one place that was not as obvious, but hopefully I've got everything now. Let me know.
Quote from: Noedul on April 23, 2016, 11:23:19 AM
The button for body parts in the Hair/Head/Pants/etc. list also seems to be missing for me - is that new?
That was a mistake on my part. Try the newer version (0.13.0.4) in the previous post. I'm in the process of moving some things around, while at the same time trying to provide a working version for Linux users, and I lost track of my changes and forgot that I removed that. You'll see that there is now a "Health" tab to replace the "Body Parts" option.
Quote from: EdB on April 23, 2016, 11:40:07 AM
Quote from: Vee on April 23, 2016, 04:49:35 AM
This is with only EdBPrepareCarefully (and Core) activated, after cleanining up ModsConfig.xml; new World, new Colony, no changes to the randomly generated Pawns made.
Linux users, please try this one:
Prepare Carefully 0.13.0.4 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg7juwyiqhini60/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.0.4.zip?dl=0)
As has been described by Fluffy elsewhere, there was a change in alpha 13 in the way that the game loads mods, graphics, etc. If graphics are being loaded in a separate execution thread, this is crashing Linux. So the fix here is just to find all of the places where I'm loading graphics in a separate thread. For the most part, it's obvious where I'm doing that. With the version I released yesterday, I missed one place that was not as obvious, but hopefully I've got everything now. Let me know.
The game launches without crashes now, thank you! I'll test it further when i have time later, but no problems in the first 10 minutes. This is great. :)
Quote from: EdB on April 23, 2016, 11:40:07 AM
Linux users, please try this one:
Prepare Carefully 0.13.0.4 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg7juwyiqhini60/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.0.4.zip?dl=0)
Works! I tested many scenarios and they worked all fine! Thank you!
On Win10 running A13 and it is not working. I can do all the preparing without an issue but when I tell it to start the colony it completely ignores all the prepare carefully I sat up and I just get the standard 3 random colonists and standard gear. Only other active mods are colonist bar and mod order
Quote from: Bazkur on April 23, 2016, 07:40:18 PM
On Win10 running A13 and it is not working. I can do all the preparing without an issue but when I tell it to start the colony it completely ignores all the prepare carefully I sat up and I just get the standard 3 random colonists and standard gear. Only other active mods are colonist bar and mod order
Same but for me i get no colonists at all
Quote from: Bazkur on April 23, 2016, 07:40:18 PM
On Win10 running A13 and it is not working. I can do all the preparing without an issue but when I tell it to start the colony it completely ignores all the prepare carefully I sat up and I just get the standard 3 random colonists and standard gear. Only other active mods are colonist bar and mod order
I'm sure you've checked this but I've got to ask. You're using the latest versions of all of the mods? I just put up a new version of the Mod Order mod that fixes some intermittent issues, and released two versions of Prepare Carefully today. The latest are:
- Mod Order: 0.13.1.2
- Prepare Carefully: 0.13.0.4
- Colonist Bar: 0.13.0.3
Since you're not using other mods, this doesn't apply, but everyone please keep in mind that any mod that does custom map generation will conflict with Prepare Carefully. I don't know off the top of my head what those mods are, but there are definitely a few of them out there.
Which order are you loading the mods?
It's strange--I'm also Windows 10 Alpha 13 and it works for me every time. I can't get it to not work. I'm not the only one that it's working for, right?
(trying to find out why) file name unknown?
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Quote from: Bazkur on April 23, 2016, 07:40:18 PM
On Win10 running A13 and it is not working. I can do all the preparing without an issue but when I tell it to start the colony it completely ignores all the prepare carefully I sat up and I just get the standard 3 random colonists and standard gear. Only other active mods are colonist bar and mod order
I'm sure you've checked this but I've got to ask. You're using the latest versions of all of the mods? I just put up a new version of the Mod Order mod that fixes some intermittent issues, and released two versions of Prepare Carefully today. The latest are:
- Mod Order: 0.13.1.2
- Prepare Carefully: 0.13.0.4
- Colonist Bar: 0.13.0.3
Since you're not using other mods, this doesn't apply, but everyone please keep in mind that any mod that does custom map generation will conflict with Prepare Carefully. I don't know off the top of my head what those mods are, but there are definitely a few of them out there.
Which order are you loading the mods?
It's strange--I'm also Windows 10 Alpha 13 and it works for me every time. I can't get it to not work. I'm not the only one that it's working for, right?
So I got it working but I'm not sure what did it as I can't replicate it now. I do have the latest versions of your mods for A13 except the Mod order says it is 1.7.1? But I just downloaded it today. Mods were ordered as Core, Mod Order, Prepare Carefully, Colonist Bar.
Here are the things I did:
- Disabled the mods, deleted my world, and started again. Didn't seem to help.
- Created another new world using the default random seed it gave me whereas I was using a custom seed but still just random characters. Didn't help
- Closed Game again, booted up and used the same world I had just created and loaded the preset, and now it works! No idea what if any of those things fixed it.
I'll play around with it some more and see if I can break it again but for now it looks to be working. Thanks!
Quote from: Bazkur on April 23, 2016, 10:11:18 PM
So I got it working but I'm not sure what did it as I can't replicate it now. I do have the latest versions of your mods for A13 except the Mod order says it is 1.7.1? But I just downloaded it today. Mods were ordered as Core, Mod Order, Prepare Carefully, Colonist Bar.
Here are the things I did:
- Disabled the mods, deleted my world, and started again. Didn't seem to help.
- Created another new world using the default random seed it gave me whereas I was using a custom seed but still just random characters. Didn't help
- Closed Game again, booted up and used the same world I had just created and loaded the preset, and now it works! No idea what if any of those things fixed it.
I'll play around with it some more and see if I can break it again but for now it looks to be working. Thanks!
Definitely grab the latest Mod Order mod, which I released today. I'm changing the versioning scheme on all of my mods--the one you want is 0.13.1.2.
i have been trying to fix it for like 3 hours but i cant *sigh* after i updated the alpha 13 version it stopped working
works on both my windows 7 and windows 10 computers. so...
Quote from: Bazkur on April 23, 2016, 10:11:18 PM
Quote from: EdB on April 23, 2016, 09:41:13 PM
Quote from: Bazkur on April 23, 2016, 07:40:18 PM
On Win10 running A13 and it is not working. I can do all the preparing without an issue but when I tell it to start the colony it completely ignores all the prepare carefully I sat up and I just get the standard 3 random colonists and standard gear. Only other active mods are colonist bar and mod order
I'm sure you've checked this but I've got to ask. You're using the latest versions of all of the mods? I just put up a new version of the Mod Order mod that fixes some intermittent issues, and released two versions of Prepare Carefully today. The latest are:
- Mod Order: 0.13.1.2
- Prepare Carefully: 0.13.0.4
- Colonist Bar: 0.13.0.3
Since you're not using other mods, this doesn't apply, but everyone please keep in mind that any mod that does custom map generation will conflict with Prepare Carefully. I don't know off the top of my head what those mods are, but there are definitely a few of them out there.
Which order are you loading the mods?
It's strange--I'm also Windows 10 Alpha 13 and it works for me every time. I can't get it to not work. I'm not the only one that it's working for, right?
So I got it working but I'm not sure what did it as I can't replicate it now. I do have the latest versions of your mods for A13 except the Mod order says it is 1.7.1? But I just downloaded it today. Mods were ordered as Core, Mod Order, Prepare Carefully, Colonist Bar.
Here are the things I did:
- Disabled the mods, deleted my world, and started again. Didn't seem to help.
- Created another new world using the default random seed it gave me whereas I was using a custom seed but still just random characters. Didn't help
- Closed Game again, booted up and used the same world I had just created and loaded the preset, and now it works! No idea what if any of those things fixed it.
I'll play around with it some more and see if I can break it again but for now it looks to be working. Thanks!
One thing I've seen a few modders say is with A13 best to always restart the game when enabling mods, some change in how the mods are loaded with A13. So enable mod(s) -> restart game -> less error 8)
And another thing, always delete the mod when updating, there can be file name changes and so on. *Talking about any mods for any games. :) *
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Quote from: Bazkur on April 23, 2016, 10:11:18 PM
Quote from: EdB on April 23, 2016, 09:41:13 PM
Quote from: Bazkur on April 23, 2016, 07:40:18 PM
On Win10 running A13 and it is not working. I can do all the preparing without an issue but when I tell it to start the colony it completely ignores all the prepare carefully I sat up and I just get the standard 3 random colonists and standard gear. Only other active mods are colonist bar and mod order
I'm sure you've checked this but I've got to ask. You're using the latest versions of all of the mods? I just put up a new version of the Mod Order mod that fixes some intermittent issues, and released two versions of Prepare Carefully today. The latest are:
- Mod Order: 0.13.1.2
- Prepare Carefully: 0.13.0.4
- Colonist Bar: 0.13.0.3
Since you're not using other mods, this doesn't apply, but everyone please keep in mind that any mod that does custom map generation will conflict with Prepare Carefully. I don't know off the top of my head what those mods are, but there are definitely a few of them out there.
Which order are you loading the mods?
It's strange--I'm also Windows 10 Alpha 13 and it works for me every time. I can't get it to not work. I'm not the only one that it's working for, right?
So I got it working but I'm not sure what did it as I can't replicate it now. I do have the latest versions of your mods for A13 except the Mod order says it is 1.7.1? But I just downloaded it today. Mods were ordered as Core, Mod Order, Prepare Carefully, Colonist Bar.
Here are the things I did:
- Disabled the mods, deleted my world, and started again. Didn't seem to help.
- Created another new world using the default random seed it gave me whereas I was using a custom seed but still just random characters. Didn't help
- Closed Game again, booted up and used the same world I had just created and loaded the preset, and now it works! No idea what if any of those things fixed it.
I'll play around with it some more and see if I can break it again but for now it looks to be working. Thanks!
One thing I've seen a few modders say is with A13 best to always restart the game when enabling mods, some change in how the mods are loaded with A13. So enable mod(s) -> restart game -> less error 8)
And another thing, always delete the mod when updating, there can be file name changes and so on. *Talking about any mods for any games. :) *
nope nothing works the only mod i truly wanted broke after the update :(
Can you check if you extracted the folder right? Perhaps the folder mod is nested inside another folder.
Quote from: notfood on April 24, 2016, 02:22:49 PM
Can you check if you extracted the folder right? Perhaps the folder mod is nested inside another folder.
im pretty sure i did it right
here's a photo of part of the error
https://goo.gl/photos/1k53mx4PnzbJYTaX6
Quote from: cassiusworthington on April 24, 2016, 10:43:19 PM
here's a photo of part of the error
https://goo.gl/photos/1k53mx4PnzbJYTaX6
It's trying to spawn an item on the map, and it's failing. There's something about one of those items that Prepare Carefully is not handling well. When you customized your equipment and apparel, did you select items from one or more of the other mods that you have enabled? A screen grab of the equipment screen would be useful or a list of the items from other mods that you're adding.
https://goo.gl/photos/1k53mx4PnzbJYTaX6 (new photo) removes Gauss rifle and heat cannon . . . it works thank you but would you know why it would not work before?
Anything i can help with just nudge me, i see my weapons are involved here somehow.
Quote from: cassiusworthington on April 25, 2016, 07:26:04 PM
https://goo.gl/photos/1k53mx4PnzbJYTaX6 (new photo) removes Gauss rifle and heat cannon . . . it works thank you but would you know why it would not work before?
I tried it with Skullywag's gauss weapons--those worked ok for me. "Heat cannon"--which mod is that from?
Heat Cannon is from Rimsenal I believe.
Try reinstalling both Rimsenal and Skullywag's weapons, then try it.
Quote from: cassiusworthington on April 25, 2016, 07:26:04 PM
https://goo.gl/photos/1k53mx4PnzbJYTaX6 (new photo) removes Gauss rifle and heat cannon . . . it works thank you but would you know why it would not work before?
Thanks everyone for letting me know which mods have those weapons.
It seems like there's some kind of complicated mod conflict at play here. This makes it really difficult to tell what's going on. I've got the following mods enabled, in this order:
- Community Core Library v0.13.1
- EdB Mod Order
- EdB Prepare Carefully
- EdB Colonist Bar
- GaussWeapons
- FlameWeapons
- Rimsenal
- Rimfire 2.0 (also tried 1.9)
I loaded up my equipment to roughly match what's in your screenshot (the three weapons and the snowhare clothing), and it works without a problem for me. I see that you have a lot of different mods enabled. The best advice I can give is to start with a combination of mods that you know works. Keep adding mods to that list until you run into a problem. That's a good way to identify a mod conflict.
| HELP | Hey Ive been playing this game for a long time and now ive found the perfect mod for a personal start.
But I REALY want to start with 42 colonist (2 for each job) and in the colonist tab when creating a world, i can only add 10 colonist. I tryed to code them in a preset file (copy paste) and it worked until i pressed start (after ressource tabs (food animals resources u know )) and a message pop up saying me that the maximum number of colonist is 10.
If someone can tell me how & where i can change the maximum value it would be great.
Quote from: Anonymou$ on April 26, 2016, 11:22:12 AM
| HELP | Hey Ive been playing this game for a long time and now ive found the perfect mod for a personal start.
But I REALY want to start with 42 colonist (2 for each job) and in the colonist tab when creating a world, i can only add 10 colonist. I tryed to code them in a preset file (copy paste) and it worked until i pressed start (after ressource tabs (food animals resources u know )) and a message pop up saying me that the maximum number of colonist is 10.
If someone can tell me how & where i can change the maximum value it would be great.
Currently, there is no way to start with more than 10. The reason for this has to do with the user interface. Once you get more than 10 colonists, the tabs across the top become a problem, with the names becoming unreadable and overlapping the edges of the tabs. If you approached the number of colonists that you're talking about, the tabs would be so jammed together that you could barely click on them. To support more than 10, I need to code my own tab interface (instead of using the one that is used in the core game), which is a huge hassle. It's a popular feature request, and I will consider doing this in the future, but it has not been a high priority.
well i was able to add up to 20 colonist even with the name jamed in each tab (see rimworld.png) but are you sure that i cant change the maximum number of colonist because i still cant start the game with more than 10 colonist (see rimworld2.png)
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I'm having a problem getting this mod to work. I have it unzipped into the appropriate folder and it's showing up in the mods section of the main menu, but when it's activated, even after quitting and restarting Rimworld, the Prepare Carefully button never shows up when selecting my pawns. Is this a known issue?
Quote from: Anonymou$ on April 26, 2016, 01:09:13 PM
well i was able to add up to 20 colonist even with the name jamed in each tab (see rimworld.png) but are you sure that i cant change the maximum number of colonist because i still cant start the game with more than 10 colonist (see rimworld2.png)
I can look at changing that hard max. The user interface may still prevent you from adding, but if you want to go through and do a manual preset edit, I don't see any reason I should be blocking that. I'll plan on looking at that with the next release.
Quote from: Kajin on April 26, 2016, 04:13:36 PM
I'm having a problem getting this mod to work. I have it unzipped into the appropriate folder and it's showing up in the mods section of the main menu, but when it's activated, even after quitting and restarting Rimworld, the Prepare Carefully button never shows up when selecting my pawns. Is this a known issue?
People do report this issue from time to time. The most common cause is from accidentally double-extracting the zip file. You want to make sure that your mod folder is /Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully with the files inside there and not /Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully/EdBPrepareCarefully. Having the extra folder will definitely cause this problem. If that's not it, let me know.
...
Well, then.
No wonder I couldn't get any of my mods to work. They were ALL getting unzipped into the mods folder that way. The Prepare Carefully button is there and the feature appears to be working now, though I haven't started a colony yet.
Thanks for the help, I was pulling my hair out over here!
Quote from: EdB on April 26, 2016, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: Anonymou$ on April 26, 2016, 01:09:13 PM
well i was able to add up to 20 colonist even with the name jamed in each tab (see rimworld.png) but are you sure that i cant change the maximum number of colonist because i still cant start the game with more than 10 colonist (see rimworld2.png)
I can look at changing that hard max. The user interface may still prevent you from adding, but if you want to go through and do a manual preset edit, I don't see any reason I should be blocking that. I'll plan on looking at that with the next release.
ok thanks
I realy bad at coding but i think that i could change it in the .dll file of the mod but i have no idea how to open it can someone help me plz
Quote from: EdB on April 26, 2016, 11:48:10 AM
Currently, there is no way to start with more than 10. The reason for this has to do with the user interface. Once you get more than 10 colonists, the tabs across the top become a problem, with the names becoming unreadable and overlapping the edges of the tabs. If you approached the number of colonists that you're talking about, the tabs would be so jammed together that you could barely click on them. To support more than 10, I need to code my own tab interface (instead of using the one that is used in the core game), which is a huge hassle. It's a popular feature request, and I will consider doing this in the future, but it has not been a high priority.
You can't display more than 10, but can you keep data for more than 10 in memory? If so, would it be possible with Rimworld's core interface to have navigation buttons that change which 10 colonists are displayed? (e.g. colonist 0-9 are displayed, press
Next or add a new colonist, destroy tab for colonist 0, add tab for colonist 10)
Quote from: Noedul on April 28, 2016, 07:18:18 AM
Quote from: EdB on April 26, 2016, 11:48:10 AM
Currently, there is no way to start with more than 10. The reason for this has to do with the user interface. Once you get more than 10 colonists, the tabs across the top become a problem, with the names becoming unreadable and overlapping the edges of the tabs. If you approached the number of colonists that you're talking about, the tabs would be so jammed together that you could barely click on them. To support more than 10, I need to code my own tab interface (instead of using the one that is used in the core game), which is a huge hassle. It's a popular feature request, and I will consider doing this in the future, but it has not been a high priority.
You can't display more than 10, but can you keep data for more than 10 in memory? If so, would it be possible with Rimworld's core interface to have navigation buttons that change which 10 colonists are displayed? (e.g. colonist 0-9 are displayed, press Next or add a new colonist, destroy tab for colonist 0, add tab for colonist 10)
That's not really a problem even if the button next and previous for the navigation of the tab is a good idea.
The problem is that either the game or the mod doesn't allow you to start with more than 10 colonist (I think its from the mod because in the language folder of the game there is a line of text (You are not allowed to have more than {0} colonists) and his definition in the coding (EdB.PrepareCarefully.TooManyColonists)
Is there a way to buffer up premade colonists as "Colonists joins" or when they fall from the sky later... so you get the rest as a colonist a day or something like that?
Quote from: siebharrin on April 28, 2016, 12:01:04 PM
Is there a way to buffer up premade colonists as "Colonists joins" or when they fall from the sky later... so you get the rest as a colonist a day or something like that?
good idea
I love the mod, and have been using it bug free for a week, however the game started getting extremely laggy at times (last time everyone was asleep, and it was raining, I don't think the lag is related to the mod though).
So I ended up starting a new game and I no longer have the prepare carefully buttons when making a new colony. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the mods, gone from the one posted to Nexus to the Alpha one (alpha one is the one I had working before).
I'm using game version 0.13.1135 rev816
And the only other mod I've used is ProjectArmory300 (which I also have uninstalled to see if it was somehow causing a conflict).
Redownloaded the alpha for A13 again and now its working.
what typically causes the loadout to be completely ignored when the map loads? i'm probably missing something obvious but my game had a few silent CTDs so i deleted everything and updating mods now and suddenly it just ignores everything i do, the interface is there and all though.
start of the mod order list:
(http://i.imgur.com/jzvtd65.png)
and full mod list here:
(http://i.imgur.com/T5uZf3v.png)
Quote from: Too-DAMN-Much on May 01, 2016, 08:12:10 AM
what typically causes the loadout to be completely ignored when the map loads? i'm probably missing something obvious but my game had a few silent CTDs so i deleted everything and updating mods now and suddenly it just ignores everything i do, the interface is there and all though.
start of the mod order list:
(http://i.imgur.com/jzvtd65.png)
and full mod list here:
(http://i.imgur.com/T5uZf3v.png)
I don't know about the rest of it, but Community Core Library definitely needs to come before the Vanilla Tweaks in the load order.
So I have the latest version of rimworld installed, Alpha 13.1135, and tried using the file on the front page, but once its activated and I restart the game there is no longer a button there to try selecting. I'm on windows 7 64-bit and have used it for past versions of the game. According to the initial post, it is still in beta for alpha 13 but should still work right?
Quote from: Kinsume on May 01, 2016, 02:52:17 PM
So I have the latest version of rimworld installed, Alpha 13.1135, and tried using the file on the front page, but once its activated and I restart the game there is no longer a button there to try selecting. I'm on windows 7 64-bit and have used it for past versions of the game. According to the initial post, it is still in beta for alpha 13 but should still work right?
Take a look at this post (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6261.msg213360#msg213360). That's the most common cause of this problem.
Quote from: Dagothra on May 01, 2016, 10:36:36 AM
I don't know about the rest of it, but Community Core Library definitely needs to come before the Vanilla Tweaks in the load order.
no change.
Quote from: Too-DAMN-Much on May 01, 2016, 11:45:47 PM
Quote from: Dagothra on May 01, 2016, 10:36:36 AM
I don't know about the rest of it, but Community Core Library definitely needs to come before the Vanilla Tweaks in the load order.
no change.
You need a few compatible patches to get all the map generator to work together.
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
Just under the downloads you'll find "Patch for Misc. MapGenerator + EdB's Prepare Carefully" and you need the "Veg Garden Seeds Add-on for Prepare Carefully Download!" from https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=12934.0
They needs to be activated after the main ones.
QuoteEdBPrepareCarefully
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Miscellaneous_MapGenerator
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Vegetable Garden 3.6a
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"Patch for Misc. MapGenerator + EdB's Prepare Carefully"
"Veg Garden Seeds Add-on for Prepare Carefully Download!"
That will fix your problem 8)
Quote from: Lumaan on May 02, 2016, 01:19:24 AM
Quote from: Too-DAMN-Much on May 01, 2016, 11:45:47 PM
Quote from: Dagothra on May 01, 2016, 10:36:36 AM
I don't know about the rest of it, but Community Core Library definitely needs to come before the Vanilla Tweaks in the load order.
no change.
You need a few compatible patches to get all the map generator to work together.
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
Just under the downloads you'll find "Patch for Misc. MapGenerator + EdB's Prepare Carefully" and you need the "Veg Garden Seeds Add-on for Prepare Carefully Download!" from https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=12934.0
They needs to be activated after the main ones.
QuoteEdBPrepareCarefully
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.
Miscellaneous_MapGenerator
.
.
Vegetable Garden 3.6a
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"Patch for Misc. MapGenerator + EdB's Prepare Carefully"
"Veg Garden Seeds Add-on for Prepare Carefully Download!"
That will fix your problem 8)
thanks!
Just for information purposes:
My preparecarefully button sometimes disappears. I am using the 1.11.beta1 version.
It happened a lot when i was testing mods and in which order I wanted to start them. Removing all mods and starting from fresh after I knew the right order fixed it 100% of the times.
The new download file (0.13..) only mentions a fix for linux, so i thought this was worth mentioning.
Quote from: Too-DAMN-Much on May 02, 2016, 01:48:50 AM
Quote from: Lumaan on May 02, 2016, 01:19:24 AM
Quote from: Too-DAMN-Much on May 01, 2016, 11:45:47 PM
Quote from: Dagothra on May 01, 2016, 10:36:36 AM
I don't know about the rest of it, but Community Core Library definitely needs to come before the Vanilla Tweaks in the load order.
no change.
You need a few compatible patches to get all the map generator to work together.
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
Just under the downloads you'll find "Patch for Misc. MapGenerator + EdB's Prepare Carefully" and you need the "Veg Garden Seeds Add-on for Prepare Carefully Download!" from https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=12934.0
They needs to be activated after the main ones.
QuoteEdBPrepareCarefully
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.
Miscellaneous_MapGenerator
.
.
Vegetable Garden 3.6a
.
"Patch for Misc. MapGenerator + EdB's Prepare Carefully"
"Veg Garden Seeds Add-on for Prepare Carefully Download!"
That will fix your problem 8)
thanks!
disregard, still no change after trying it.
Quote from: Too-DAMN-Much on May 02, 2016, 02:26:35 AM
Quote from: Too-DAMN-Much on May 02, 2016, 01:48:50 AM
Quote from: Lumaan on May 02, 2016, 01:19:24 AM
Quote from: Too-DAMN-Much on May 01, 2016, 11:45:47 PM
Quote from: Dagothra on May 01, 2016, 10:36:36 AM
I don't know about the rest of it, but Community Core Library definitely needs to come before the Vanilla Tweaks in the load order.
no change.
You need a few compatible patches to get all the map generator to work together.
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
Just under the downloads you'll find "Patch for Misc. MapGenerator + EdB's Prepare Carefully" and you need the "Veg Garden Seeds Add-on for Prepare Carefully Download!" from https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=12934.0
They needs to be activated after the main ones.
QuoteEdBPrepareCarefully
.
.
Miscellaneous_MapGenerator
.
.
Vegetable Garden 3.6a
.
"Patch for Misc. MapGenerator + EdB's Prepare Carefully"
"Veg Garden Seeds Add-on for Prepare Carefully Download!"
That will fix your problem 8)
thanks!
disregard, still no change after trying it.
Do the "Debug menu" give any errors? and what about in the "output_log.txt" under "\RimWorld1135Win_Data"?
i haven't started it in developer mode so i'm not sure about the debug menu, but there are no errors in the console like i recall seeing before that you can open, the output log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16186076/
Quote from: Too-DAMN-Much on May 02, 2016, 03:01:24 AM
i haven't started it in developer mode so i'm not sure about the debug menu, but there are no errors in the console like i recall seeing before that you can open, the output log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16186076/
Can see an error from "Miscellaneous_MapGenerator", any change see a copy of the loadorder from your "ModsConfig.xml"?
Edit: Can see in the last line in the log the loadorder, and you got the wrong order. "Misc_Patch_-_EdBPrepareCarefully" need to be loaded after "EdBPrepareCarefully" and "Miscellaneous_MapGenerator"
And make a new world/save to be sure nothing is in the wrong order in the world/save.
sure thing:
http://pastebin.com/Rc2CH4JW
that's got it after i saw your edit, thanks a lot, game modding in general always reaches the point of wondering why i bothered at mod order, if only there was a way to test all mods at once and work out the mod order without failures instead.
Quote from: Too-DAMN-Much on May 02, 2016, 03:32:34 AM
that's got it after i saw your edit, thanks a lot, game modding in general always reaches the point of wondering why i bothered at mod order, if only there was a way to test all mods at once and work out the mod order without failures instead.
Happy to help 8)
Hey there, I've just decided to start up a new file with the Prepare Carefully mod and it doesn't seem to let me press the "Prepare Carefully" button. Any idea on why this is?
Quote from: Supershark88 on May 05, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
Hey there, I've just decided to start up a new file with the Prepare Carefully mod and it doesn't seem to let me press the "Prepare Carefully" button. Any idea on why this is?
I had that in the beginning too.. then I found out that I had downloaded the A12 version instead :-[ .. worth doublechecking
Anyone else having issues with edb-p.c. a13 beta causing embrasures, Ive tried Enhanced defence and Combat realism defence, to stop working properly and become glorified walls? Its the only mod that fixes the issue when removed from my load order, and idk if thats a known bug or i am an idiot. Whether User error (possible) or Beta bug i cant seem to find any other instances of this happening.
my basic order that triggers it is:Core, CCL, Com. Real. Core, Comb. Real. Defence, EdB-Mod order and EdB-PC,
all of which are up to date on my end as of this post. I checked that first.
just to tell fiona farming dosent work with the edb prepare carefully the beta test thing for a13 the pawn get ramdomised after if i choose fiona
(i say that to both author)
Edb please i need more help. I saw the last version of the mod and i was pleased to see that you deleted the limit for the colonist. It still is limited to 12 though.I realy want to start with more than that can you tell me how can i do it please,
Quote from: Supershark88 on May 05, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
Hey there, I've just decided to start up a new file with the Prepare Carefully mod and it doesn't seem to let me press the "Prepare Carefully" button. Any idea on why this is?
I've had this same issue. Are you also running the Miscellaneous (MAI) mod? I am and wonder if there is a conflict.
I'm a bit frustrated with bug reporting on mods going through nearly 70 pages of posts here, but I noticed that the forum admins have setup a subforum under bugs to report and discuss bugs with mods. I made a post on this (Prepare Carefully button not showing up with A13 beta version of this mod) here: https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=20252.0
I hope more mod users use the Mod Bugs subforum to mention/discuss mod bugs separately. It just feels unwieldy to me to discuss them all on one thread that's so long there's no real practicality to reading through the entire thread to see if the particular problem someone is having with a mod has already been discussed and resolved 5, 10, 50 pages back in the thread.
I've long noticed (since I found and tried this mod) there's a quirk in which a colonist auto-generated with passion for something will cost points to remove that passion when that should probably give points (because there's no downside to having passion). I started a thread on this topic at the new Mod Bugs board here: https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=20256.0
I'm not sure if it's a A13-specifc bug or not since I never tried it in previous alphas, but when starting with a large number of colonists (~10) and a massive amount of items, the drop pods don't spawn all of the colonists (spawning only 4-6). I'm guessing the drop pods can't find a valid/open spot to spawn the colonists in, so they don't appear at all. Animals don't all spawn either, if they do at all.
If there's any way to fix this, it would be appreciated. Doing a themed playthrough will be much more tedious if I have to manually spawn in the colonists and/or items I want to start with through dev mode.
I am using Prepare Carefully + Crash landing, more men arriving in cryosleep capsules)
Quote from: Fregrant on May 28, 2016, 02:34:33 AM
I am using Prepare Carefully + Crash landing, more men arriving in cryosleep capsules)
I'm sorry you have to give some detail. Is the problem that more are spawning? If so that is part of the crash landing mod and thus no bug or anything it is supposed to do that.
Did not noticed the problem with trying to spawn much colonists with this mod. I made only 5-men team and small resources cache in Prepare Carefully. Also I am using Crash Landing, so there crashing more modules. Cryosleep modules with colonists. Prisoner modules with cutthroats. Weapon decks with guns. Animal cages. Resource pods. Radiation-leaking reactor. And more.
Using compatibility version, no problems so far.
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=8967.0
I have a small issue where the mod wont activate, the button is there, i dont have it double extracted, but when i hit the button it wont activate. the red code says: Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_CharMaker: System.ArgumentNullException: Argument cannot be null. im not sure whats wrong.
When will the next update for this mod be out?
Just wondering, but does the v13 beta work with crashlanding's compatibility mod? If so, what order should they be in? Cause when i tried to do this it didnt work, i must've done something wrong.
Quote from: Charchu on June 01, 2016, 04:48:55 AM
Just wondering, but does the v13 beta work with crashlanding's compatibility mod? If so, what order should they be in? Cause when i tried to do this it didnt work, i must've done something wrong.
i got the crashlanding mod installed as well as and it works for me. my order is EdB Prepare Carefully then crashlanding.
Is there a sourcecode for the Alpha 13 version? I wanted to add some relationship functionality. I just need to edit something in Genstep_Colonists.
So, is it supposed to be pronounced "E. D. B." "Ed B." or "E. Decibel"? or something else entirely?
So im having a issue here,i have only edb prepare carefully 1.10.1 installed,but it seems that when i create a game with it,the game is unnable to load an unknown file and than no colonists land i really cant play the game when this mod is on,because it keeps getting glitched and sayng bodypart cant load because of <unknwon file> and i really donw know how to fix it ;-;
Quote from: calouro1 on June 07, 2016, 07:36:40 PM
So im having a issue here,i have only edb prepare carefully 1.10.1 installed,but it seems that when i create a game with it,the game is unnable to load an unknown file and than no colonists land i really cant play the game when this mod is on,because it keeps getting glitched and sayng bodypart cant load because of <unknwon file> and i really donw know how to fix it ;-;
It's because your are using the alpha 12 version and not the alpha 13 Beta (Version 0.13.0.4), you might wanna try that version.
Quote from: Em on June 03, 2016, 07:49:51 AM
Is there a sourcecode for the Alpha 13 version? I wanted to add some relationship functionality. I just need to edit something in Genstep_Colonists.
Not that I know of.
EDB hasn't been logged in since May 15, so we'll probably have to wait until this is (sorta) implemented in vanilla with A14.
Quote from: ratlord13 on May 31, 2016, 01:04:01 PM
When will the next update for this mod be out?
I am still working on it. It's been going very slowly just because I have not had as much time as I'd like. I've got custom relationships working and also added more flexibility around the starting injuries and ailments. That's all working ok, but with some quirks that I need to figure out. After that, I'll need to decide how much time to put into fixing existing bugs and adding other features that have been requested.
And then of course, if alpha 14 does in fact land in July, that's going to turn everything upside-down with the scenario system. It's likely that it will take a lot of effort to line things up to work properly. That said, I am very excited that a scenarios feature is being added to the vanilla game. It's a fantastic way to add replayability.
Quote from: InfiniteRemnant on June 06, 2016, 03:10:18 PM
So, is it supposed to be pronounced "E. D. B." "Ed B." or "E. Decibel"? or something else entirely?
"Ed B" (but I'm starting to like "E D B"--which seems like the way that most tend to say it)
Quote from: EdB on June 08, 2016, 01:16:48 AM
Quote from: InfiniteRemnant on June 06, 2016, 03:10:18 PM
So, is it supposed to be pronounced "E. D. B." "Ed B." or "E. Decibel"? or something else entirely?
"Ed B" (but I'm starting to like "E D B"--which seems like the way that most tend to say it)
Lol, I always kind of thought was Ed B. But also really like E D B, it flows well, so have slowly switched to that in my mind as reading it.
Also always pronounced it E D B
I can still go through the options to prep a colony, but *nothing* lands. No colonists, no food, no items. Game is not paused.
This was on a new colony on a new world, created after disabling old mods.
Apparently "And Prepare Carefully is throwing GenStep exceptions (which means it's not properly generating something)."
Someone on another thread directed me here.
Output_log attached.
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Quote from: Archemide on June 12, 2016, 03:09:22 PM
I can still go through the options to prep a colony, but *nothing* lands. No colonists, no food, no items. Game is not paused.
This was on a new colony on a new world, created after disabling old mods.
Apparently "And Prepare Carefully is throwing GenStep exceptions (which means it's not properly generating something)."
Someone on another thread directed me here.
Output_log attached.
That happened to me at first, but then I found out that it was a completely unrelated mod error that caused it, once I switched the order of that mod, it worked
All other mods were disabled at the time.
Quote from: Archemide on June 12, 2016, 07:26:19 PM
All other mods were disabled at the time.
Be sure to restart after disabling the mods. From looking at the log file, the map generator step that seems to be causing the error is this one:
MapGenerator.Genstep_CreateBlueprintVillageThere's no reference to that in the Prepare Carefully mod, so it must be coming from another mod.
I've got a new Alpha 13 release. Take a look at the original post for more information. Adding functionality for relationships and injuries was more complicated than I expected, and I'm guessing there's going to be some weirdness and some bugs in there. Please post any bug reports to this topic.
I expect there to be a few bug fix releases, but I'm not planning any additional functionality for alpha 13. There are some new bits that I'm still working on, but there's no way I will finish that before alpha 14 lands.
EdB i love your mods, they are awesome :D.
And by the way :D, i can´t download it from the dropbox, maybe the download is broken? Everytime i try to download it, nothing happens.
Greetings Yade
using the newest version from a few hours ago: (outputlog)
System.Collections.Generic.KeyNotFoundException: The given key was not present in the dictionary.
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[Verse.BodyPartDef,System.Collections.Generic.List`1[Verse.BodyPartRecord]].get_Item (Verse.BodyPartDef key) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ImplantManager..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.HealthManager..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.get_Instance () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_CharMaker..ctor (Boolean generateColonists) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ModController.MenusUpdate () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ModController.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
any idea what went wrong?
Quote from: Exende on June 13, 2016, 03:25:52 AM
using the newest version from a few hours ago: (outputlog)
any idea what went wrong?
Are you using other mods?
EDIT: I found it. Looks like Prepare Carefully is not handling the implant/bionics recipes for animals in the "A Dog Said" mod (part of the Medical Complication pack). I have a fix for it and will release it a little later today. Thanks for bug report!
Quote from: Yademee on June 13, 2016, 01:58:54 AM
EdB i love your mods, they are awesome :D.
And by the way :D, i can´t download it from the dropbox, maybe the download is broken? Everytime i try to download it, nothing happens.
Greetings Yade
Is the link not working for you here in the original post, or over on the Dropbox site? I noticed that Dropbox changed their user interface at some point during the last several months. Look for a download button in the upper-right corner.
Is it compatible with Crash Landing?
I tried it (under HardcoreSK) and if you click "Prepare Carefully" you get sent to the main menu. Then if you try again, the button isn't there.
System.Collections.Generic.KeyNotFoundException: The given key was not present in the dictionary.
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[Verse.BodyPartDef,System.Collections.Generic.List`1[Verse.BodyPartRecord]].get_Item (Verse.BodyPartDef key) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ImplantManager..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.HealthManager..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.get_Instance () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_CharMaker..ctor (Boolean generateColonists) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ModController.MenusUpdate () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ModController.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ^ from the log, seems to be the same error.
Quote from: notfood on June 13, 2016, 02:31:15 PM
Is it compatible with Crash Landing?
I tried it (under HardcoreSK) and if you click "Prepare Carefully" you get sent to the main menu. Then if you try again, the button isn't there.
I believe this is the same issue described a few posts up. I have a fix that I will release sometime this evening.
Hm i din´t do anything else but now its working :D
Thx for your response :D
Quote from: EdB on June 13, 2016, 11:11:32 AM
Quote from: Exende on June 13, 2016, 03:25:52 AM
using the newest version from a few hours ago: (outputlog)
any idea what went wrong?
Are you using other mods?
I've released a new version (0.13.0.6) with a fix for this problem and a couple of other little issues. Please let me know if you run into any other bugs.
After spending a little more time testing with some other mods, I've gone ahead and re-labelled the release as the first full Alpha 13 release. There are still probably some bugs in there, but please try it out and let me know how well it works.
Quote from: EdB on June 13, 2016, 11:34:47 PM
After spending a little more time testing with some other mods, I've gone ahead and re-labelled the release as the first full Alpha 13 release. There are still probably some bugs in there, but please try it out and let me know how well it works.
Can i now modify the relationships?
Haha I have a strange thing going on...
I made my colonists the way I wanted them.
Saved a preset (just cause I decided to restart the pc cause a windows update finished...)
Loaded Rimworld back up went to start a colony again.
Loaded Preset.
Went with a random location.
Colonists were not the ones I wanted (from the preset)
Tried again and again kept happening.
Mods Loaded:
CCL+vanillatweak
EDB Mod Order, Colonist bar, prepare carefully.
ARBRealisticResearch/NoATVRaiderspatch
ED-Plants24h
It always starts the new colony with the same people and base items from before I loaded the presets.
Quote from: Justas love on June 14, 2016, 10:00:38 AM
Can i now modify the relationships?
You can now modify the relationships--with a few limitations. See the FAQ section that I added to the original post for more details.
Quote from: wsensor on June 14, 2016, 10:59:05 AM
I made my colonists the way I wanted them.
Saved a preset (just cause I decided to restart the pc cause a windows update finished...)
Loaded Rimworld back up went to start a colony again.
Loaded Preset.
Went with a random location.
Colonists were not the ones I wanted (from the preset)
Tried again and again kept happening.
Mods Loaded:
CCL+vanillatweak
EDB Mod Order, Colonist bar, prepare carefully.
ARBRealisticResearch/NoATVRaiderspatch
ED-Plants24h
It always starts the new colony with the same people and base items from before I loaded the presets.
Normally, this problem would happen if you've got another mod that also modifies the game's map generation. If that other mod is loaded after Prepare Carefully, its map generation changes will take precedence and your customizations will be ignored. You can find out if this is the problem by loading Prepare Carefully last in your mod order, but keep in mind that this might break the other mod.
That said, from a quick look, I don't think that any of those mods change the map generation, so there could be something else going on.
Things I tested several times under HardcoreSK + CrashLanding on Linux:
☑ Random apparel, weapons, items, pets.
☑ Relationships
☑ Injuries
☑ Implants
☑ CrashLanding
Also applied HardcoreSK changes to the MapGenerators.xml and everything went smoothly.
Everything works!
Quote from: EdB on June 14, 2016, 12:08:10 PM
SNIP
Hmm. I forgot a mod before (misc map generator) that might cause it since it messes with map generation?
Oh well I guess I will not use it and try again later on.
EDIT: That was the cause but luckily for me there was a patch for this in the misc mai thread XD.
the problems with ADogSaid I had a few posts back was fixed! Thank you for the quick fix! I'm not sure how you can narrow it down that quickly to a specific mod from a relatively vague log entry, lol!
Any plans or ways to enable adding custom colonists in the game without creating a new game?
Quote from: EdB on June 14, 2016, 12:08:10 PM
-snip-
Normally, this problem would happen if you've got another mod that also modifies the game's map generation. If that other mod is loaded after Prepare Carefully, its map generation changes will take precedence and your customizations will be ignored. You can find out if this is the problem by loading Prepare Carefully last in your mod order, but keep in mind that this might break the other mod.
That said, from a quick look, I don't think that any of those mods change the map generation, so there could be something else going on.
Oh my god, thank you. I've been trying to figure out why this has been happening with Hardcore SK pack. Thank you so much!
Some of the buttons don't respond unless i click in a very specific part of the button. Usually the name tags and the three buttons that change the menu on the far left of the character edit screen.
Turning the other mods in my collection off didn't do shit.
Might want to look into that.
On the up-side everything else works just fine far as i can tell.
Would be nice if we could go a little deeper into the relationships for things like compatibility, no point adding a relationship if they arent compatible and are gonna split up days after landing.
Oh thank you so much Edb! I've been waiting for the relationship customization, and it's great! I'd kiss you if I could!
System.Collections.Generic.KeyNotFoundException: The given key was not present in the dictionary.
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[Verse.BodyPartDef,System.Collections.Generic.List`1[Verse.BodyPartRecord]].get_Item (Verse.BodyPartDef key) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ImplantManager..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.HealthManager..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.get_Instance () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_CharMaker..ctor (Boolean generateColonists) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ModController.MenusUpdate () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ModController.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Got this error. Anyone know why?
Quote from: JimmyProvince on June 18, 2016, 05:04:14 AM
Got this error. Anyone know why?
Are you definitely using the most recent version? A similar issue was reported earlier and fixed in the most recent. If you are up-to-date, it would be useful to know which other mods you are using.
Quote from: EdB on June 18, 2016, 12:13:51 PM
Quote from: JimmyProvince on June 18, 2016, 05:04:14 AM
Got this error. Anyone know why?
Are you definitely using the most recent version? A similar issue was reported earlier and fixed in the most recent. If you are up-to-date, it would be useful to know which other mods you are using.
(https://65.media.tumblr.com/9921fca9d6d42885d9cdf4361793c14d/tumblr_o90pnaw6fm1ulwzivo1_540.png)
Definitely using the latest version.
Try redownloading it. The screenshot doesn't say anything about which version you are using.
Thank you for the awesome update Ed! Your mods and Hospitality are the only mods I just can't live without. Thank you for all your hard work and effort keeping them updated and working. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Mod conflicts with Crash Landing mod
I'm using it with Crash Landing without issues and I didn't need an extra version.
Doe's anyone still have the version prior to this one? i would like to take a screenshot of my colonist (i have 12 of them) so i can recreate them but since the presents don't work i can't do that.
Be handy to be able to import directly from a save file in cases like this.
You need a medal, i see hard work right here.
Hi ppl and my personal hat off to autor of this great mod.
Can someone explain what is the stat next to age? Ty.
Quote from: EdB on June 14, 2016, 12:08:10 PM
Normally, this problem would happen if you've got another mod that also modifies the game's map generation. If that other mod is loaded after Prepare Carefully, its map generation changes will take precedence and your customizations will be ignored. You can find out if this is the problem by loading Prepare Carefully last in your mod order, but keep in mind that this might break the other mod.
I had the same problem and following your instructions, it was fixed! You're actually the best EdB around. (http://i.imgur.com/nfL5RLQ.gif)
I've waited all the time till this mod became compatible to alpha 13 but it still don't correctly :( having the same problem like some dude before. I create everything etc. etc. and then when the game loads it gives me some random dudes and none of the stuff i choose :(
I've tried everything, even complete reinstall with just this one mod installed, still the same :(
Edit:/ Nevermind! I'm an Idiot! I've deleted everything... besides the folder in %AppData%... Stupid me. Well. Now everything works again >.>
the "prepare carefully" button doesn't work help?
Quote from: Brille65 on June 28, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
I've waited all the time till this mod became compatible to alpha 13 but it still don't correctly :( having the same problem like some dude before. I create everything etc. etc. and then when the game loads it gives me some random dudes and none of the stuff i choose :(
I've tried everything, even complete reinstall with just this one mod installed, still the same :(
Edit:/ Nevermind! I'm an Idiot! I've deleted everything... besides the folder in %AppData%... Stupid me. Well. Now everything works again >.>
Can you elaborate? What was causing the issue?
I've tried loading the mods in different order but either crash landing doesn't activate or prepare carefully is ignored and I am also given random colonists.
Quote from: Elixiar on July 08, 2016, 06:12:28 PM
Quote from: Brille65 on June 28, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
I've waited all the time till this mod became compatible to alpha 13 but it still don't correctly :( having the same problem like some dude before. I create everything etc. etc. and then when the game loads it gives me some random dudes and none of the stuff i choose :(
I've tried everything, even complete reinstall with just this one mod installed, still the same :(
Edit:/ Nevermind! I'm an Idiot! I've deleted everything... besides the folder in %AppData%... Stupid me. Well. Now everything works again >.>
Can you elaborate? What was causing the issue?
I've tried loading the mods in different order but either crash landing doesn't activate or prepare carefully is ignored and I am also given random colonists.
The way to get Prepare carefully to load is just putting it at the bottom of the mod list so it overwrites any mods that might change the mapgeneration.
If you have a mod that does overwrite the same files as this one you might want to check its mod page to see if the maker of that mod has a patch so it can work with this one.
ty masta
I have an issue, I was wondering if anyone else was having.
I downloaded the new version and tried to click the button to customize my colonists. I click it and nothing happens! Is this user error? I wouldn't be shocked..lol
NM.. no idea what I did.. but it works now. ><;;
Having a small issue, not sure if it's load order or not, but i go through everything with prep carefully, making out all the stuff, and when the map loads it gives me a random standard setup.
using latest version with mega mod pack and A13
A quick announcement:
After much deliberation, I've decided that I will not be updating Prepare Carefully for Alpha 14.
It's been immensely satisfying working on these mods and seeing aspects of them make it into the vanilla game, but it's difficult as a modder to not eventually lose interest and move onto other things.
I appreciate all of the kind words and feedback from what really is a great community and look forward to seeing what's next for this great game.
Quote from: EdB on July 15, 2016, 01:33:31 PM
A quick announcement:
After much deliberation, I've decided that I will not be updating Prepare Carefully for Alpha 14.
It's been immensely satisfying working on these mods and seeing aspects of them make it into the vanilla game, but it's difficult as a modder to not eventually lose interest and move onto other things.
I appreciate all of the kind words and feedback from what really is a great community and look forward to seeing what's next for this great game.
:'( There goes half the fun must have content. Thank you for the hard work sad to see this die. Kinda hope someone will work on something similar.
It's a pity that PC won't move forward. I can see the other two mods (the colonist bar and mod order) and A14 has that functionality built into it. The scenarios are sort of like PC but it would have been nice to tweak of the pawns instead of spending 20+ minutes rerolling pawns until you get ones that aren't total crap.
Anyway, good luck in your future endeavours and thank-you for your mods. PC and Colonist Bar have been some of the best QoL mods and I'll miss PC.
I've been playing Rimworld since A6, but I'm probably done now. Without this mod, its just no fun to play.
Thanks for the all the work on your mods! Much enjoyed!
Quote from: 1000101 on July 15, 2016, 02:15:21 PM
It's a pity that PC won't move forward. I can see the other two mods (the colonist bar and mod order) and A14 has that functionality built into it. The scenarios are sort of like PC but it would have been nice to tweak of the pawns instead of spending 20+ minutes rerolling pawns until you get ones that aren't total crap.
Anyway, good luck in your future endeavours and thank-you for your mods. PC and Colonist Bar have been some of the best QoL mods and I'll miss PC.
This, 100 times, this!
I'm going to miss my 4 starting colonists, they've been in every single colony I've made since A11.
Seriously though, thanks for all of your hard work, PC has been a must-have mod for me, and has provided a huge amount of replay value to the game with different start scenarios.
As with all things, they must end. Thanks for all the work over the past few years! I have used your mods for some time, will be weird w/o them..On to new adventures for you, maybe I'll come across more of your works in the future GLHF ;D
A bit heartbroken by this announcement. I had tons of fun creating characters :(
I wonder if this mod would work with Alpha 14 anyways? Man if it dosen't it'll still suck... I loved having my one OP character that was much better then everyone else ;~;
...damn
Sad to see this go, EdB you did magic with this mod, hopefully havent seen the last of you either. Good luck buddy.
*looks at code*
hmm....
Quote from: GhostPower on July 15, 2016, 02:55:47 PM
I wonder if this mod would work with Alpha 14 anyways? Man if it dosen't it'll still suck... I loved having my one OP character that was much better then everyone else ;~;
It doesn't... just tried
Quote from: skullywag on July 15, 2016, 02:57:55 PM
...damn
Sad to see this go, EdB you did magic with this mod, hopefully havent seen the last of you either. Good luck buddy.
*looks at code*
hmm....
Planning on picking this up? That would be amazing. This plus scenario mode would unlock a lot of potential play styles.
Quote from: kriana on July 15, 2016, 02:59:55 PM
Quote from: GhostPower on July 15, 2016, 02:55:47 PM
I wonder if this mod would work with Alpha 14 anyways? Man if it dosen't it'll still suck... I loved having my one OP character that was much better then everyone else ;~;
It doesn't... just tried
No DLL mod is compatible between alpha versions. The core API changes and makes the code obsolete. Not sure why people keep trying - this is kindergarden stuff.
Goodbye Prepare Carefully. We shall never see your likeness again.
Thank you for all the work over the years, I know the last update was rough. It was a pleasure playing with your content.
That's too bad, PC was a must have in my book.
EdB, farewell. Thanks for the awesome mods.
Can we have the source? Someone else could take the torch.
I want to thank you for all your hard work up to this point. With out EdB PC I probably would not enjoy playing rimworld as much as I currently do seeing as I am cursed when it comes to RNG and getting anything close to the characters I need with decent traits that dont make them wish to kill all my starting colonists within the first 5 minutes.
Oh no! I was so excited for Alpha 14 on Steam but I just can't play without this mod and my colonists. This was literally the must-have mod, and it's a real shame to see it go. Any plans to release the source or something so someone else can pick it up?
Thanks for the hard work in the previous Alphas!
First off, thank you so much for the work and time you've put in. Your mod is seriously well done and makes the game so much better.
Second, I've got some time on my hands and would love to help continue this on. If you could post the source that'd be a tremendous help. If not, would you mind if I disassembled it to salvage what's possible? I sorta already took a peek and it's pretty understandable (experienced programmer but no experience with games/Unity...eager to learn though).
The licence in his latest version says that sort of thing is allowed.
Quote from: Licence.txtThis software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied
warranty. In no event will the authors be held liable for any damages
arising from the use of this software.
Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose,
including commercial applications, and to alter it and redistribute it
freely, subject to the following restrictions:
1. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented; you must not
claim that you wrote the original software. If you use this software
in a product, an acknowledgment in the product documentation would be
appreciated but is not required.
2. Altered source versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be
misrepresented as being the original software.
3. This notice may not be removed or altered from any source distribution.
This was the best mod ever. :-\
Noo :(. Not even... one... last... update for the steam masses? I need this MOD!
Totally understand though. You have been around doing this for a long time. Just, lol one more update! Please!
Sad. You made some really great mods. Up to you what you want to do, of course, but your work will be highly missed.
A12, A13, A14 constantly changing part of code which was hit hard Edb work. Edb did a great job, for all Rimworld.
I think this A14 will be marked as Edb's alpha. Because, Prepare Carefully its a part of biginning in Rimworld scenario system.
When i saw EDB was leaving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tim5nU3DwIE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tim5nU3DwIE)
This was my favorite mod. I had tons of fun, and I will miss the UI
Quote from: EdB on September 21, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
Announcement (15 July 2016)
After much deliberation, I've decided that I will not be updating Prepare Carefully for Alpha 14.
It's been immensely satisfying working on these mods and seeing aspects of them make it into the vanilla game, but it's difficult as a modder to not eventually lose interest and move onto other things.
Will you be handing off prepare carefully to someone interested in continuing this mod? This is what i consider a must have mod.
I appreciate all of the kind words and feedback from what really is a great community and look forward to seeing what's next for this great game.
EdB Prepare Carefully
Customize your RimWorld colonists, choose your gear and prepare carefully for your crash landing. The mod's point-based system tries to balance things out so that you don't overdo it, but spend your available points on additional colonists, skill points, passions, resources, weapons and apparel. Or disable the point system and gear up your starting colonists however you like. Save your setup as a preset so that you can start your game the same way later.
About the latest version
Version 0.13.1.1 is the first release for Alpha 13. Usually, the first release for a new alpha includes a handful of bugs. Please report any issues that you have to this forum topic (but first please take a look at the list of frequently asked questions below).
New features in this version:
- You can now customize the relationships between your colonists.
- You can now customize the injuries that your colonists start out with.
- The default point system has changed. You now start out with a number of points that matches the value of your three starting colonists. Choose the "Fixed Points" option to use the previous system, which gave you a fixed number of 12,000 points.
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Download for Alpha 13
Prepare Carefully 0.13.1.1 for Alpha 13 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/snvgtzplfbwb2v8/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.1.1.zip?dl=0) (Dropbox)
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How to Use
Extract the contents of the zip file into your mods folder. The mod contents should be in the "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully" directory, NOT in a "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully/EdBPrepareCarefully" directory. Enable the mod from the mods menu.
Once you enable the mod, start a game normally, but click the "Prepare Carefully" button to get started:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b636/edbmods/prepare-carefully-a13-1_zpsh0cee1rf.jpg)
Customize your colonists:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b636/edbmods/prepare-carefully-a13-2_zpsgwivj8wc.jpg)
Choose your starting resources and gear:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b636/edbmods/prepare-carefully-a13-3_zpsx0uo7zv9.jpg)
Frequently Asked Questions
I installed the mod, but I don't see the "Prepare Carefully" button. How do I fix it?
The most common problem that people run into is that they double-extract the mod folder from the zip file. If the "Prepare Carefully" button is not appearing for you, make sure that you have not ended up with an extra directory inside your mod folder. The mod contents should be in the "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully" directory, NOT in a "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully/EdBPrepareCarefully" directory.
If you have other trouble installing the mod, please look for advice in this thread:
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.0
Why can't I make make Colonist A the grandparent of Colonist B?
RimWorld uses something called a "relationship worker" to create relationships between colonists. The game does not have a worker for every relationship. It recognizes the relationships when they are created indirectly, but you can't create them directly. It is possible to mod in new workers to enable the creation of a relationship, but I have not done that.
Something unexpected happened when I added a bunch of relationships. Why?
See the previous answer about relationship workers. The workers were not written to handle customizing colonist relationships, so they sometimes do weird things when you try out certain combinations. I needed to add a custom worker for creating siblings, because the one in the vanilla game just didn't do what I expected in the context of the mod. I may add customized workers in the future if there are obvious issues with the vanilla ones.
Why can't I add more than 10 colonists?
It's a hard limit in the mod. I need to re-do the tab UI along the top to support more than 10 colonists. As it is now, the colonist names start overlapping, getting cut off and just generally becoming difficult to use when you have more than 10. I will be adding support for more colonists, but you probably won't see it until Alpha 14.
Why don't my saved alpha 12 presets work?
It was difficult to maintain backwards compatibility for this release. You'll have to recreate them.
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Download for Alpha 13
Prepare Carefully 0.13.1.1 for Alpha 13 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/snvgtzplfbwb2v8/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.1.1.zip?dl=0) (Dropbox)
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Other thoughts
- Thanks to everyone who has contributed a translation to the mod: Latta, malejpl, Kvarfax, Rascher and kaptain_kavern.
- I need to give lots of credit to Argain for his CCM mod (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=4554.0), of course. When I saw that CCM was no longer going to be updated, trying something similar felt like a good fit for me, considering the UI-focused mod work that I've been doing. It's a different implementation and provides some different features, but it's the same idea.
- I decided to go with an overall point-based system (as opposed to a fixed set of available skill points for each colonist, for example) so that you can trade-off resources and equipment for additional or fewer colonists.
- The point cost of items and colonists mostly comes from their defined market values with some adjustments for balance. If an item has no market value defined, you cannot add it to your starting equipment.
- You can disable the point system. This gives you the freedom to set up your colonists however you want.
- Why can't you change a colonist's body type? This is something that you may notice--you can change the head type and the hair, but not the body type. It turns out that a colonist's body type is directly tied to the colonist's adult backstory. You cannot change them independently--this is a limitation of the game for which I could not find an acceptable workaround. Change your colonist's backstory to change their body type.
Here's a log of the changes that you can find in recent releases if you want more detail:
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Version 0.13.1.1 (2016-06-13)
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- Switched versioning scheme.
- Added support for Alpha 13.
- Added "Relations" tab to the colonist portrait section.
- Redesigned the "Health" tab. You can now add injuries to your colonists.
- Added "Implants" and "Furniture" sections to the "Equipment/Resources" page.
- Re-labeled the alternate points option to "Fixed Points". Fixed points
is no longer the default.
- Starting points value is now saved with presets to avoid inconsistent
point values when loading a preset.
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Version 1.10.1 (2015-08-22)
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- Added support for Alpha 12.
- Added an Animals tab on the Equipment page.
- Added "No Extra Points" option.
- Rebalanced point costs.
Quote from: skyarkhangel on July 15, 2016, 05:52:08 PM
A12, A13, A14 constantly changing part of code which was hit hard Edb work. Edb did a great job, for all Rimworld.
I think this A14 will be marked as Edb's alpha. Because, Prepare Carefully its a part of biginning in Rimworld scenario system.
No offense to Ludeon, but EdB PC was superior.
Quote from: abo1984 on July 15, 2016, 05:02:57 PM
First off, thank you so much for the work and time you've put in. Your mod is seriously well done and makes the game so much better.
Second, I've got some time on my hands and would love to help continue this on. If you could post the source that'd be a tremendous help. If not, would you mind if I disassembled it to salvage what's possible? I sorta already took a peek and it's pretty understandable (experienced programmer but no experience with games/Unity...eager to learn though).
I'm interested in helping you if we can get our hands on the source (or most of it atleast)
This mod is pretty much the only reason id bother to play this game at all, and the senario system is shit compared to it. I feel like I just wasted my money. So I'm willing to dedicate some time and resources to get it back up and working.
Quote from: skullywag on July 15, 2016, 02:57:55 PM
...damn
Sad to see this go, EdB you did magic with this mod, hopefully havent seen the last of you either. Good luck buddy.
*looks at code*
hmm....
Thinking of picking this up? It'd be great to see this mod survive for another update!
Without this mod it will take me forever hitting random to get a husky bald guy with prostophile, mining passion, 30-40 years, etc. I will sorely miss this. Thank you EdB for all the hard work over the years, your mod is what kept me in the game and made it so much better. Imma still play, you understand, but i'll feel the loss of this often. Much luck and love for all your future endeavors!
Quote from: abo1984 on July 15, 2016, 05:02:57 PM
First off, thank you so much for the work and time you've put in. Your mod is seriously well done and makes the game so much better.
Second, I've got some time on my hands and would love to help continue this on. If you could post the source that'd be a tremendous help. If not, would you mind if I disassembled it to salvage what's possible? I sorta already took a peek and it's pretty understandable (experienced programmer but no experience with games/Unity...eager to learn though).
As someone else said, I'd also be interested in helping if I could. I haven't taken a peek at it yet, but I have a little modding exp from other games. I'm not good at outright writing my own code, but I can tweak current code if I'm pointed in a general direction. I'm hoping this is just as simple as adding a few lines/tweaking what is already there to get it to work. 3:
Thanks for All the wonderful mods!!
I have no modding or programming experience except that i have edited mods to change values for things. I love this mod so much that I am now looking for a decomplier to edit the DLL.
T.T
now I can't play rimworld anymore. I can't put me and people I know in it in it.
edit: I have very specific characteristics that just renaming won't do.
Thank you for all your great work here. Please, consider posting the source code so other programmers can continue developing this wonderful mod. And good luck with your future projects.
Quote from: sinogard on July 16, 2016, 12:24:28 AM
I have no modding or programming experience except that i have edited mods to change values for things. I love this mod so much that I am now looking for a decomplier to edit the DLL.
Try JustDecompile (http://www.telerik.com/products/decompiler.aspx) to edit the DLL. Best of luck!
R.I.P Rimworld a14+
I remember like many others, i said the last version that of RW PC is compatible with will be the last version I ever play.
Thanks for making such a fantastic mod, and I hope someday you return to RW and decide to update it.
Awwww man, this is so sad :(
As many have said before me, I myself cannot play without EdB mods either. Especially Prepare Carefully, which for me was THE selling point when I bought the game. I cannot imagine a game start without customizing my starting crew and items. I'm an RP oriented person, so while having scenarios is nice, I always treated Rimworld as a sort of "Sims in space" where all my survivors had their own stories in my mind. I streamed a ton of Rimworld on Twitch and I roleplayed for them, conversations, stories, all that. I NEED EdB PC for that! I need to be able to customize their appearance, their skills, their traits, etc. That lone "randomize" button just feels like an insult after having Prepare Carefully for so long.
I'm with the others here completely. Unless PC style customization makes it into vanilla (or some other modder picks up development on this) the last version compatible with EdB PC is the last version of Rimworld I'll ever play.
I've pulled out all the code and started modifying it. Don't hold your breath though, lots of code to go through and haven't even gotten it to compile yet. Since I'm new to Rimworld Modding/Unity programming giving any ETA would be pulled out me arse. Someone who knew what they were doing could probably do this 10x faster than me but I'll work on it until unless someone beats me to it.
Quote from: abo1984 on July 16, 2016, 02:54:13 AM
I've pulled out all the code and started modifying it. Don't hold your breath though, lots of code to go through and haven't even gotten it to compile yet. Since I'm new to Rimworld Modding/Unity programming giving any ETA would be pulled out me arse. Someone who knew what they were doing could probably do this 10x faster than me but I'll work on it until unless someone beats me to it.
If you have discord I'd love to help. If it actually tells you what is causing the mod not to load properly (in a log file or something) then fixing it will go a lot faster. throw me a pm if your interested.
Omg, it's ruined my plans to play a14
Please some nasty programmers adapt this mod for new version.
Is the source out somewhere? I can't find it.
Will not be updated to A14.. this is the end of an era. What a shame.
@EdB
Call it a bribe, or whatever you want. I understand losing focus or interest in something. I think it's an end of an era. I would personally send you money on paypal to update the mod and I think many others would too. If you started an indiegogo to fund the Alpha 14 update and to package your source files for someone else to take over (if you are truly DONE), I'm sure you could earn a fraction of the time, effort and love you've dumped into the most critical mod to my and many others ongoing interest in rimworld. I created an account after over a year of lurking, and months of live streaming on Twitch. Anyone with me on this? Speak with your dollars not your words here people...
-Rich
I won't lie - I'm very sad to hear that this is the case, EdB.
Your mods, in my honest opinion, brought the game to a whole new level. I'm glad to see that some of your UI has been modeled into the game, but Prepare Carefully was what made the game special to me - I could figuratively create myself and my friends in the game, and that made the experience feel that much more unique. I hurt when they hurt, I was sad when they were starving, and I fondly remembered my friend as we butchered him so that the rest of us could survive another brutal winter.
I hope you'll reconsider in the future, but regardless - thank you for contributions. Your work has brought this game to entirely new level of enjoyment for me.
:( this mod is the sole reason of why i play rimworld, i will never play rimworld without this mod. EdB at least let someone else take over the mod if you not going to work on the mod any more, this mod is a must have for anyone playing rimworld
Prepare Carefully have been the corner stone of my RimWorld experience for some time now and its going to be really hard to keep playing without it.
Thank you for your contributions EdB - they will be missed.
i just hope EdB at least give the chance for someone else to update this mod, i am not going back to picking random colonists.
Really sad to see Prepare Carefully have ceased development fully. Being able to fully customize pawns to my liking and do gimmick runs with specialized characters was really fun. The A14 changes with scenario help fill out the issue with special equipment but we're still forced with the RNG that is the pawn customization.
Random colonists aren't bad, it's just that with games like XCOM where you could fully customize units, you grew attached to the special ones and rooted for them to come out alive from the situations they were put in. That could be said the same for randomized pawns but honestly I never cared too much about the random ones compared to the pre-made starters. Always saw them as the story's main protagonists with the extras being just that, extras.
Quote from: notfood on July 16, 2016, 09:39:33 AM
Is the source out somewhere? I can't find it.
Here's the state of the source code and some things to keep in mind if you're seriously considering forking your own version of the mod.
- The code base is a bit of mess. I've spent the minimum amount of time trying to get it working as each alpha has been released--without going back and rewriting major sections that probably should be rewritten. There's a hodge-podge of coding patterns; there's not a lot of comments, etc.
- The point system doesn't make sense in the context of scenarios. It needs to be reworked or removed.
- The scenario system significantly changed the way that map generation works. The full impact of those changes are not clear to me. I understand the basics of how Prepare Carefully fits into that flow, but I'm sure that there are subtleties that will need to be dealt with.
- The expanded Steam audience has factored into my decision to no longer continue with the mod. More people means more bug reports. More bug reports means more bug fixing, which means more time. I personally cannot take on the added responsibility.
- I didn't want to deal with multiple distribution channels--i.e. posting it for download in the forums and in the Steam Workshop. Maybe I'm overstating the difficulty of this, but I feel like if you don't upload to Steam Workshop, it's going to be a huge hassle to stop someone else from uploading it there.
I've been debating what to do with the source code. I don't like the idea that when I release the source code, probably two or three people are going to start working on it independently--unintentionally racing each other to see who gets a working version first. It doesn't seem quite fair. Sadly, since it hasn't been open-source all along, I'm not sure this can be avoided. I'm curious what people think.
I think you're free to do whatever the hell you want, you have no obligation whatsoever. A lot of people probably won't be playing until a replacement is found though.
Quote from: EdB on July 16, 2016, 05:17:20 PM
I've been debating what to do with the source code. I don't like the idea that when I release the source code, probably two or three people are going to start working on it independently--unintentionally racing each other to see who gets a working version first. It doesn't seem quite fair. Sadly, since it hasn't been open-source all along, I'm not sure this can be avoided. I'm curious what people think.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with Github or other modding communities (I'm thinking of Minecraft specifically), but generally, when someone posts the source of a very popular discontinued mod on Github, several prominant mod devs will come together and collaborate, not fight each other over it.
There's usually 1 coder in charge (for mods on this scale, anyway), and if he/she goes MIA, someone else can just fork the existing codebase.
And someone forks the mod, it'll show up on the original Github page too. I suppose someone could rip the code off GitHub, close source it, and finish it themselves before the community does, but with the hundreds of mods I've seen (most MUCH larger than prepare carefully), I've NEVER seen that happen.
Quote from: EdB on July 16, 2016, 05:17:20 PM
I've been debating what to do with the source code. I don't like the idea that when I release the source code, probably two or three people are going to start working on it independently--unintentionally racing each other to see who gets a working version first. It doesn't seem quite fair. Sadly, since it hasn't been open-source all along, I'm not sure this can be avoided. I'm curious what people think.
I should also mention that you really should attach an appropriate license to your source code (MIT or GPL maybe) when you upload it. It's rarely an issue, but it ensures that future derivatives of your codebase won't create any drama or legal messes.
Quote from: EdB on July 16, 2016, 05:17:20 PM
Quote from: notfood on July 16, 2016, 09:39:33 AM
Is the source out somewhere? I can't find it.
Here's the state of the source code and some things to keep in mind if you're seriously considering forking your own version of the mod.
- The code base is a bit of mess. I've spent the minimum amount of time trying to get it working as each alpha has been released--without going back and rewriting major sections that probably should be rewritten. There's a hodge-podge of coding patterns; there's not a lot of comments, etc.
- The point system doesn't make sense in the context of scenarios. It needs to be reworked or removed.
- The scenario system significantly changed the way that map generation works. The full impact of those changes are not clear to me. I understand the basics of how Prepare Carefully fits into that flow, but I'm sure that there are subtleties that will need to be dealt with.
- The expanded Steam audience has factored into my decision to no longer continue with the mod. More people means more bug reports. More bug reports means more bug fixing, which means more time. I personally cannot take on the added responsibility.
- I didn't want to deal with multiple distribution channels--i.e. posting it for download in the forums and in the Steam Workshop. Maybe I'm overstating the difficulty of this, but I feel like if you don't upload to Steam Workshop, it's going to be a huge hassle to stop someone else from uploading it there.
I've been debating what to do with the source code. I don't like the idea that when I release the source code, probably two or three people are going to start working on it independently--unintentionally racing each other to see who gets a working version first. It doesn't seem quite fair. Sadly, since it hasn't been open-source all along, I'm not sure this can be avoided. I'm curious what people think.
Appreciate this sentiment as I have been looking over the decompiled code for 4 or 5 hours now. I don't mind taking this over for the time being, but as someone else said, maybe github is the best place for it.
Here's where I've gotten so far
Project set up, all decompiled code cleaned up for decompiler issues (sets/gets/enums restored). Only place decompiler really snagged was in Page_PrepareCarefully.DrawCost(Rect parentRect). Apparently it's caused by using lambdas which compilers turn into gibberish that can't re-compile. I was thinking about removing the cost stuff anyways. EdB's comment kind of solidified that thought, so I'm planning on pulling the cost stuff out.
Code otherwise looks clean enough even without comments (but access to comments would be nice :) )
As far as updating to a14, easy changes include updating Widget class names. Lots of them just had the function name reversed for example LabelButton become ButtonLabeled. Also ThingDefOf.Components became ThingDefOf.Component
Where my understanding fails and where the work really needs to be done is with the removal of the following classes from Rimworld: Verse.MapInitData and Verse.DialogUtility.
DialogUtility doesn't have much in it so I'm sure I'll just have to look more to see where that stuff went. Getting around MapInitData is where the real work will have to be done getting this to work. If anyone has any knowledge of how that system has changed I'd love to learn how.
As others have said, I consider this a must-have mod. That's the only reason I'm doing this. If someone else is more experienced and can figure this stuff out faster please keep us posted, otherwise I'll keep plugging away.
Quote from: EdB on July 16, 2016, 05:17:20 PM
I've been debating what to do with the source code. I don't like the idea that when I release the source code, probably two or three people are going to start working on it independently--unintentionally racing each other to see who gets a working version first. It doesn't seem quite fair. Sadly, since it hasn't been open-source all along, I'm not sure this can be avoided. I'm curious what people think.
Release an open-source git project, appoint a project manager who is familiar with git and can police commits (or do it yourself). This will multiple individuals to work at solving bugs and update the mods, with focused effort and minimal friction. There may be some who will fork it but I think the majority of people will contribute to the main project.
OR appoint a single individual or team to be the maintainers and give them sole access to the closed source.
Either way negates the problem and solves the communities desires.
As a long time heavy user and sideline observer of the Minecraft open source modding community that brucethemoose mentioned above, I can say with high confidence that the vast majority of the most popular Minecraft mods are fully open source and available on github, and that everything he mentioned about the way the open source development community for that game works co-operatively is completely correct. Additionally, I have seen many cases where developers from completely outside a given mod will fork a repo, fix bugs, and submit a pull request back to the main repo. I've even seen this happen with "amateurs" who would never undertake creating or maintaining a whole mod by themselves, but understand the code well enough to find and fix or develop new functionality for a single issue that is important to them.
Everything about the open source github based development model is a win for games of this type, and I would certainly encourage you and all the other modders in this community to embrace it fully.
Oh, and of course, as everyone else has said, thank you so much for your contributions to this point. I didn't use PC, but I certainly did use the colonist bar and mod order, and ending up in core speaks highly to how important they were.
hey EdB is it alright if I try to update it then give it to you for you to upload?
Do you have any planned mods and will you continue your other mods?
Quote from: EdB on July 16, 2016, 05:17:20 PM
I'm curious what people think.
Thanks for all of the feedback.
To be honest, as I read through all of the posts today, I started second-guessing my decision yesterday. I realize that the timing of it wasn't great, and it sort leaves people missing the mod just when they want to see it the most.
I still need to set the mod aside. My interest is waning, and it feels more like a chore than anything else to do these updates. That said, I actually was very far along in the Alpha 14 update when I had the epiphany that I didn't want to work on it anymore, so here's what I've done:
I've open-sourced it. It can be found on github here:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully
(Note that I've changed the license vs. previous distributions. It's now the MIT license)
I also went ahead and finished a first-pass on an Alpha 14 version, which can be downloaded from github here:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v0.14.0.1EDIT: Get the latest release:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
It's got bugs, but it mostly works. As far as what happens next, I'm not sure. If you want to try to contribute, I can try that for awhile, but I'm not sure that I'll want to do that long-term--certainly not past alpha 14. If you want to fork the project and do your own thing, the source code is there for you--feel free.
Fucking A, thank you for this little extra! I'm pretty sure you just made a ton of people happy.
Quote from: EdB on July 16, 2016, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: EdB on July 16, 2016, 05:17:20 PM
I'm curious what people think.
Thanks for all of the feedback.
To be honest, as I read through all of the posts today, I started second-guessing my decision yesterday. I realize that the timing of it wasn't great, and it sort leaves people missing the mod just when they want to see it the most.
I still need to set the mod aside. My interest is waning, and it feels more like a chore than anything else to do these updates. That said, I actually was very far along in the Alpha 14 update when I had the epiphany that I didn't want to work on it anymore, so here's what I've done:
I've open-sourced it. It can be found on github here:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully
(Note that I've changed the license vs. previous distributions. It's now the MIT license)
I also went ahead and finished a first-pass on an Alpha 14 version, which can be downloaded from github here:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v0.14.0.1
It's got bugs, but it mostly works. As far as what happens next, I'm not sure. If you want to try to contribute, I can try that for awhile, but I'm not sure that I'll want to do that long-term--certainly not past alpha 14. If you want to fork the project and do your own thing, the source code is there for you--feel free.
a BILLION thanks! i was wondering if there was a way too get back too alpha 13, i didnt have a copy of it on my pc. but now, with a sorta-working version of EDB-prepare carefully available, i might just get back too playing rimworld yet again. also, you might wanna update the OP with links too the github and etc.
;D explodes with joy ;D Thank you for this final gift, i shall put it to hoorible abusive use i promise. I solemnly swear i am up to no good.
It works well too, even with other mods. Also works well with scenarios.
(http://i.imgur.com/kgUhdmS.jpg)
Thanks so much, EdB. You really didn't have to do that but you did it anyway, and I really respect that. Thanks for the awesome mods. Still sad to see you go, but I don't blame you as maintaining mods through every update can be a very frustrating task. I think you've just made a lot of people very happy. By open sourcing it, the mod lives on, and you can always come back if you want to. Although I don't know much about RimWorld modding in particular, I'll try to contribute when I can as this mod is simply the greatest.
BIG THANKS!!!!!
I more loose end EDB, before you go.
Would you be OK with the future Prepare Carefully developer starting a new thread, and using the same name? We'd probably want a thread where the maintainer can update the first post.
Quote from: brucethemoose on July 16, 2016, 10:10:45 PM
I more loose end EDB, before you go.
Would you be OK with the future Prepare Carefully developer starting a new thread, and using the same name? We'd probably want a thread where the maintainer can update the first post.
Yes, of course. No problem. I do think I'd prefer if the "EdB" prefix gets dropped from any future version with which I'm not involved, but do whatever makes the most sense and is the easiest.
Thank you Edb, this is one of my Must Have mods for a long time. I know that most of the mod has been made into the game, and I hope Tynan gives you credit for those ideas. It's been a good time
Thank you very much for updating this.
Thank you EdB. Your efforts are legendary.
Quote from: EdB on July 16, 2016, 10:22:46 PM
Quote from: brucethemoose on July 16, 2016, 10:10:45 PM
I more loose end EDB, before you go.
Would you be OK with the future Prepare Carefully developer starting a new thread, and using the same name? We'd probably want a thread where the maintainer can update the first post.
Yes, of course. No problem. I do think I'd prefer if the "EdB" prefix gets dropped from any future version with which I'm not involved, but do whatever makes the most sense and is the easiest.
Cool. Drama free transitions like this are so nice :D
Even if you're burnt out from modding (which absolutely means you should take a long break, at the very least, no question about it), you should stop by the forums and the workshop every once in awhile. You never know what might spark your interest again... I've seen that happen alot in the Minecraft Forge modding scene, actually.
what about the steam modding side, will that be worked on. to ever who take over on the mod
CCL is not on Steam either and is used in a lot of mods now. Just drop it in ...\Steam\steamapps\common\RimWorld\Mods
EdB: Your mods have always been essential to me and even with the changes in alpha 14, it is still the case. THANK YOU for not giving up and making it possible for others to pick up from you. Modding should never have to be a chore, but your work has simply been amazing in making a great game even better! *hugs*
Quote from: LadyAth on July 17, 2016, 12:38:23 AM
CCL is not on Steam either and is used in a lot of mods now. Just drop it in ...\Steam\steamapps\common\RimWorld\Mods
EdB: Your mods have always been essential to me and even with the changes in alpha 14, it is still the case. THANK YOU for not giving up and making it possible for others to pick up from you. Modding should never have to be a chore, but your work has simply been amazing in making a great game even better! *hugs*
I cannot agree enough. I haven't played a single game of rimworld without your mods since ... not even sure when, since you started putting them out maybe ?
I can't imagine playing without the interface improvements *shudder*
Thank you for compiling it for Alpha 14 and making the source public!
IF the future developers on this want to move forward with a Workshop release, it should still be doable, you'll just want to link to the official channels to get CCL off-Workshop in the mod description.
On the flip side, given that many people will simply not read the description then start bitching about it not working and why should they have to download something somewhere else, it'd be totally understandable why you might not want to do a Workshop release of this mod.
Thanks heaps EdB! (for opening the source and going above and beyond for A14).
Just so people are aware this isnt a straight update the code and itll work type deal, thisl need a huge refactor to get it compatible with the new scenario system. A LOT of work.
edit - missed edbs post lol, well that makes things slightly easier.
Thanks for all your work EdB, I've been using your mods since I first time I loaded up rimworld. Thank you for uploading an alpha14 update.
Now I know the update is buggy, but I am hoping someone will know a fix to my problem. I am trying to create a game with 5 maxed out survivors, however once I get in it seems to randomly disable some skills. Its different every game and different pawns, it happens even with just 1 pawn sometimes. Its almost like it is randomly selecting other backgrounds after the fact.
Note that the pawn should have 19 stats for everything (I thought maybe I had the stats set to high and was bugging out) and it should have nothing disabled, but the combat stats and research are blanked.
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@Zap Brannigan: I got that as well, but just save your game, quit RimWorld and load it again. All pawns appear fine afterwards.
Quote from: LadyAth on July 17, 2016, 10:35:15 AM
@Zap Brannigan: I got that as well, but just save your game, quit RimWorld and load it again. All pawns appear fine afterwards.
Worked 100% thanks very much LadyAth!
Decided to drop in and pile on the support.
Prepare Carefully fixed the biggest shortcoming of the game. It fixed my largest pet peeve and then went the extra mile with the points system.
If you don't continue it, I understand. We all have things we want to do with our lives. I hope you do, but thank you anyway for all the hours and frustration you saved me. :>
As a Dev myself, I totally understand burn out. I seriously hope this mod gets included into Core sometime soon, but until then, I greatly appreciate all the work you've done on this (and all of your other) essential mod(s).
Quote from: LadyAth on July 17, 2016, 10:35:15 AM
@Zap Brannigan: I got that as well, but just save your game, quit RimWorld and load it again. All pawns appear fine afterwards.
I've made a fix that I believe resolves this issue:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
Thank you so much for making an A14 version. I played using it for hours last night and had no issues. <3
Good luck to those of you who pick up the project going forward, this mod is super important to the community so hopefully someone is able to make it work!
Prepare carefully has to be the singularly most important mod out there for me, I would agree with the suggestion to take a break from modding/maintaining this as it can get tedious sometimes. You just need a fresh outlook on modding! There are so many games out there that need people like you who can add so much to a community. Try out some other games for a while, and maybe it'll re spark your interest. I honestly can't give you anymore admiration or respect in the way you've chosen to deal with your situation. Not many people are willing to give up on such a feat of modding after all the effort they've put into it.
There's one example I can think of; a modder who'd lost interest but regained it after modding other games.
I don't know if anyone knows this guy, but he goes by the name of FlowerChild. He was one of the earliest minecraft modders, who did a mod called "better than wolves". Now regardless of what has happened with the mod that's not my point, he had gone to various other games such as: 7 days to die "better than giant bee's" Kerbal space program "better than starting manned" and was able to rekindle his interest in the original mod through modding other games. There's a good chance that it might happen to you, best wishes regardless and thank you again for all you've done.
EdB maybe you and the other big modders can sort of team up so that some of you can take a break while the active team members keep the mods working even if they are not adding anything but compatibility?
Totally crushing.
IMO this functionality should be part of the game (ala DF) since screwing around randomly rerolling forever to get a good starting 3 is just brutal - least enjoyable part of the game.
Before EDB Prep came out the only way was to edit the actual save files yourself. It was a huge headache and easy to mess things up if your not especially careful ;)
Guess it's going to be tough going back to the old ways again.
Would the OP allow me (or someone else) to take over the mod and upload it to the workshop? The game is hell without this mod, and I'd rather dump hours of my own life just to be able to make this game fun again, than see this mod die.
Thanks for all the mods EdB. You did great work.
I can't play Rimworld without Prepare Carefully. It's just become too essential. I also get more attached to the pawns when I've personally created them and then it becomes all the more tragic when they suffer. You really try your best to keep them alive because they're your colonists, rather than a trio of randoms who you don't mind replacing when more skilled guys wander in. I would argue it's the real Rimworld experience.
Hopefully Ty will find some way to include it in his new scenario system, some day.
Any idea why I keep on starting with random guys, even after setting up my own toons? Using 14 beta 2 on Steam Version.
This is alpha 13... Not 14
That is probably why it is starting randomly
Like I said, I am using the 14 beta 2 version, not the old 13 one. But it's solved, I tried loading toons I had saved from V13 - those dont work anymore. After creating the same toon completely new, everything was fine.
I'd like to add to the chorus of giant THANK YOU's :)
i really do hope someone picks up the Prepare Carefully mantle because random just blows get good stats but wait your colonist is a lazy pessimist, get good traits wait your colonist has zero skills plus the hair mods lose out without this mod because i cant give my first colonist awesome hairdos don't care about relationships its nice but i couldn't give 2 pigs and a cow about it everything else the mod does is better like resources and the animals scenario editor is just a pain to mess with when i opened a tab to customize that wall of text just gave me a headache i like the pictures it breaks up the text wall crap so ya i really hope someone will pick this mod up and continue your great work EdB because unless it gets better i will not play rimworld ps thanks for at least going to alpha 14
Its on a beta test with no errors from what I see on github.
sounds like we need to explore this new scenario system as it neary if not directly replaces prepare carefully.
thanks so much for all your hard work EDB. i hope this doesn't mean you've moved on to other games but have instead found something else to mod :)
no no no no NO! I just got this game and without this customization mod working it has broken the game for me. Teach me how you modded this and guide me through updating it and i will do it. I am so sick of getting games only to find out that its essential mods don't work anymore and the developer says "Meh, i'm bored and want to bring misery to everyone by not updating it anymore. so i'll just quit." UGH
Quote from: Bradleymee on July 18, 2016, 06:09:46 PM
no no no no NO! I just got this game and without this customization mod working it has broken the game for me. Teach me how you modded this and guide me through updating it and i will do it. I am so sick of getting games only to find out that its essential mods don't work anymore and the developer says "Meh, i'm bored and want to bring misery to everyone by not updating it anymore. so i'll just quit." UGH
I want this, I deserve that, You cant be busy with life or get bored when i need something You make. pretty much what i got from that post
go back alittle and you would see its already been updated to A14
The scenario system added in alpha 14 adds part of the functionality Prepare Carefully did, along with some things it didn't.
It allows customization of:
Number of colonists at start
What is on the ground before they drop (or if they drop at all, come to think of it)
What technologies are researched.
What gear the colonists drop with.
Probably some other stuff I forgot..
It does NOT allow customization of colonist skills, traits, health (and body parts), or equipped gear.
I cant seem to make the alpha 14 version work, I just get the default scenario editor. :(
Quote from: Imca on July 18, 2016, 08:44:58 PM
I cant seem to make the alpha 14 version work, I just get the default scenario editor. :(
the Prepare Carefully button is in the same place it always was once you've activated the mod, which is at the "colonists" screen, at the bottom center.
You're a legend, thanks for updating it to 14! No more clicking random 100 times for this guy.
Quote from: TheNewTeddy on July 18, 2016, 06:56:37 AM
Would the OP allow me (or someone else) to take over the mod and upload it to the workshop? The game is hell without this mod, and I'd rather dump hours of my own life just to be able to make this game fun again, than see this mod die.
I hope someone or some group decides to take up the Prepare Carefully mantle after this. I appreciate all the work that EdB put into the mod. The devs obviously saw that value in them as most of them were implemented in the game in this update. However, as many have already said, there is no way to customize the individual colonists, which is what I always found to be the most important aspect of this mod. I enjoy randomness, but having absolutely no way of modifying the stats of the initial colonists (even in a limited way, such as selecting a type or "class" that informs the type of stats that get randomized) makes for a tedious experience getting started. On average I would spend 11 minutes rolling on random characters to get a decent first three. All of that can be wasted in an instant with a bad map. So the save/load preset options are amazing as well.
Even if whoever takes this mod over limits the scope of it to just that, I'd be incredibly grateful.
I need some help. This is A 14 version installed for Steam manually. I installed the mod to \steamapps\common\RimWorld\Mods\. I create a new mission, do everything up until I click Prepare Carefully, create all the guys, I even saved each one just in case, picked my gear, and when I start the game, it just reverts back to the default 6 guys randomly picked at the start.
I try deleting them all one by one, reloading my guys, loading a new loadout on the next screen, nothing seems to work.
Every single variation I think of to start a new match with the guys I created just reverts back to default guys. Any suggestions?
Its in the Mods folder. The mod is checked green in Mods section. It gives me all the correct options and acts like its going to work right until I click Start and get stuck back with default guys again. I even created a custom scenario with all the correct loadout and correct number of custom guys.
Even manual changes in Prepare Carefully to the existing random guys like changing their outfit color do not stick.
I'm stumped.
Hello,
I just discovered this mod yesterday and can't get it to work on my game...
Sad to hear that you will stop continuing this awesome mod. It's a shame :'(
I hope someone other will take care of this mod soon and update it.
I wish you all the best!
Regards,
Dead_Terror
Prepare Carefully is not fully ported, compiled, tested and approved for Alpha 14 so you do not have a guarantee. BUT the compiled version works without major flaws on its own, even the items from the scenario are taken into account.
I could not force that behaviour so I have to assume one of two things are happening.
1.) You are using a conflicting mod.
2.) You are using a mod which does not play nice and have that mod loaded after Prepare Carefully.
Quote from: redb2112 on July 19, 2016, 03:29:45 AM
I need some help.
I had this problem with only one mod, Misc MapGenerator, which I had to disable. Has worked fine with all the others I've been using.
edit: awesome, the update fixed the random disabled skill problem. <3
Quote from: JesusKreist on July 19, 2016, 08:01:49 AM
Prepare Carefully is not fully ported, compiled, tested and approved for Alpha 14 so you do not have a guarantee. BUT the compiled version works without major flaws on its own, even the items from the scenario are taken into account.
I could not force that behaviour so I have to assume one of two things are happening.
1.) You are using a conflicting mod.
2.) You are using a mod which does not play nice and have that mod loaded after Prepare Carefully.
I have only this mod. I downloaded it via the link that was given here. Ingame it says: "...incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'..." and it's marked red in "Mods"
I installed the game with steam. The mod version is different from the game version...
You did notice the hotfix that resides in the Beta Tab under "unstable" did you?
If you load your own toons in Prepare Carefully, then start the game and have it revert to default toons:
- Do not load previously made toons! Old ones don't work anymore, make completely new ones.
Here's the latest from a few pages ago. seriously some of you should do a lil more looking.
Quote from: EdB on July 17, 2016, 06:57:08 PM
Quote from: LadyAth on July 17, 2016, 10:35:15 AM
@Zap Brannigan: I got that as well, but just save your game, quit RimWorld and load it again. All pawns appear fine afterwards.
I've made a fix that I believe resolves this issue:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v0.14.0.2
Having a strange issue....
I started a colony yesterday using this and it worked well, but added some mods today. No errors.
I tried to start a new colony today, and when I get to the screen where you're able to use Prepare Carefully, the button is there but doesn't do anything.
I assume it's a mod conflict.
Does this work will CCL? That's the only thing I can think that I'd add that would cause so much of a conflict.
I was trying to launch a game using this mod and a few others and I would set my people up and when it would launch they would be the default 3 people that were loaded up before I prepared. I thought maybe one of the other mods was interfering with it some how so I turned all mods off and then turned just prepare carefully on and god an error. I have a screenshot of the errors I got which should be attached to this post does anyone know how to fix this?
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Quote from: nuschler22 on July 19, 2016, 02:41:35 PM
Having a strange issue....
I started a colony yesterday using this and it worked well, but added some mods today. No errors.
I tried to start a new colony today, and when I get to the screen where you're able to use Prepare Carefully, the button is there but doesn't do anything.
I assume it's a mod conflict.
Does this work will CCL? That's the only thing I can think that I'd add that would cause so much of a conflict.
i was having the same problem and after a while i decided to change the targeted version to the current one... if i recall it ends in a 8 and the targeted version ends in a 4 so that did the trick also fixes the problem on having the toons going back to the default ones... dont know it that helps anyone
Yonan, it was exactly that one mod you mentioned, I removed it completely, started a new game, and there they were. Bless you!
Quote from: rchaves007 on July 19, 2016, 06:14:57 PM
i was having the same problem and after a while i decided to change the targeted version to the current one... if i recall it ends in a 8 and the targeted version ends in a 4 so that did the trick also fixes the problem on having the toons going back to the default ones... dont know it that helps anyone
Thanks for tracking down this issue. It didn't seem to affect the non-Steam version (as far as I could tell), but I did a quick update to get the target version number to match the Alpha 14c version:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
i have no problems running misc and edbpc, i just load edb after misc map gen and its all good, + there is a misc +edb patch for you to load after both.
I just can't seem to get the A14c version of Prepare Carefully to work on the Steam version; The button appears,but it does absolutely nothing. What information do I have to provide so I can help you guys help me?
Quote from: Riddle78 on July 20, 2016, 03:20:17 PM
I just can't seem to get the A14c version of Prepare Carefully to work on the Steam version; The button appears,but it does absolutely nothing. What information do I have to provide so I can help you guys help me?
Having the same problem
Quote from: Raf's on July 20, 2016, 04:28:22 PM
Quote from: Riddle78 on July 20, 2016, 03:20:17 PM
I just can't seem to get the A14c version of Prepare Carefully to work on the Steam version; The button appears,but it does absolutely nothing. What information do I have to provide so I can help you guys help me?
Having the same problem
if u have epoe and gilttertech installed, try disabling both. that was the issue for me.
Quote from: eskoONE on July 20, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: Raf's on July 20, 2016, 04:28:22 PM
Quote from: Riddle78 on July 20, 2016, 03:20:17 PM
I just can't seem to get the A14c version of Prepare Carefully to work on the Steam version; The button appears,but it does absolutely nothing. What information do I have to provide so I can help you guys help me?
Having the same problem
if u have epoe and gilttertech installed, try disabling both. that was the issue for me.
Well that is a shame, very usefull mod i hope someone fixes the compatibility issue.
Edit: Still not working, well looks like i il need to whait until it's fixed or untill it's added in the vanilla game.
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Quote from: Riddle78 on July 20, 2016, 03:20:17 PM
I just can't seem to get the A14c version of Prepare Carefully to work on the Steam version; The button appears,but it does absolutely nothing. What information do I have to provide so I can help you guys help me?
Having the same problem
if u have epoe and gilttertech installed, try disabling both. that was the issue for me.
Well that is a shame, very usefull mod i hope someone fixes the compatibility issue.
Edit: Still not working, well looks like i il need to whait until it's fixed or untill it's added in the vanilla game.
maybe its just glittertech then, i have epoe and it works fine :/
first edb your Mod is just awsom i used it since i think 11 could be sooner or later y dont know. and barely playd 13 because you dident officaly release it.
so now i have a request at all of you guys if i just use edbPC i have no problems eccept that the letters are going crazy.
But if i activate another Mod it brakes and say it couldnt find attribute cryosleep illness ,i testet it and also Burst wounded faild, so i think all of the injuries are effectet by that bug. mods i tryed Cheaper componentes and misc core also ED more vanilla turrents. all are from the steam Workshop.
i forgot to say it shows the window for edbPC but its empty
ok problem solved just restart rimworld the bug still appears but i can use edbPC
i hope this will help others whit the same issue
Quote from: Riddle78 on July 20, 2016, 03:20:17 PM
I just can't seem to get the A14c version of Prepare Carefully to work on the Steam version; The button appears,but it does absolutely nothing. What information do I have to provide so I can help you guys help me?
I think I know what was causing the issue of a blank window after clicking the "Prepare Carefully" button.
After you make changes on the mod screen (enabling/disabling or re-ordering mods), the textures that Prepare Carefully uses to draw it's user interface were not properly getting reloaded. This would cause the mod to fail when it tried to display the Prepare Carefully UI. If you quit out of the game and restarted, everything worked fine, but things could be broken if you made any mod configuration changes without restarting. This seems to explain why it works for some people and not others.
I've released an update that I think fixes the problem:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
There may still be mod compatibility issues, but at least a couple of the mods that were mentioned as being problematic actually work just fine for me--so please don't assume incompatibility before trying it out with this new release.
Thanks EdB for still patching up a few things! <3 I'm sure someone else will take the mantel from here so you don't have to anymore. You've done amazing work. Hopefully something like this will make it into Rimworld during Beta or Polishing stage like the colonist bar has already!
I hope someone else takes up the mantle,too; EdB deserves their break. Though,I hope someone takes up the mantle sooner,rather than later; I'm still having the problem I had before; The Prepare Carefully button doing literally nothing. It doesn't even draw a window. The button literally does nothing. What information do I need to provide the people here for proper troubleshooting?
Quote from: Riddle78 on July 21, 2016, 02:34:49 AM
I hope someone else takes up the mantle,too; EdB deserves their break. Though,I hope someone takes up the mantle sooner,rather than later; I'm still having the problem I had before; The Prepare Carefully button doing literally nothing. It doesn't even draw a window. The button literally does nothing. What information do I need to provide the people here for proper troubleshooting?
I would start with mod list and order. That may help to narrow down the cause of your problems.
Here's my load order; Also,for what it matters,I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit.
-Core
-Community Core Library
-Community Core Library - Vanilla Tweaks
-CorePanda Pre 14.00
-Additional Joy Objects pre 14.00
-Cupro's Drinks pre 14.00
-Dwarven Crafts 14.00
-Expanded Power pre 14.00
-Quarry 14.00
-Toxic Fallout Protection Suit
-Armor Crafting
-Bionic Replacement Crafting
-ED-Laser Drill
-ED-ReinforcedStuff
-Efficient Light
-Embrasures
-ESM - Mine Vein
-ESM - Mountain Temp
-Glitter Tech
-Hospitality
-Numbers
-Less Incident Trolling
-LT-DoorMat
-Mannable Turrets
-Medicine Kit Crafting
-Multiple Independently Re-Entry Vehicle
-Neutrainer and AI Persona Core Crafting
-NonDecaying Storage
-RedistHeat
-Replacement Organ Crafting
-Tilled Soil
-Training Rack
-Weapon Crafting
-EdBPrepareCarefully
I want to imagine that there's no incompatibilities with Prepare Carefully,though I can't be certain. As EdB said previously,some of the recently mentioned mods are not truly incompatible.
I have the same mods as you, but a couple more, so I am not sure why it would not be working for you at all?
I have my CorePanda stuff loaded after Prepare Carefully, I doubt that is much help, though.
Do you get an error in Development mode at all?
With https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0) not work. When turn off the Miscellaneous w MAI+Robots, EdB works.
Quote from: Riddle78 on July 21, 2016, 02:34:49 AM
I hope someone else takes up the mantle,too; EdB deserves their break. Though,I hope someone takes up the mantle sooner,rather than later; I'm still having the problem I had before; The Prepare Carefully button doing literally nothing. It doesn't even draw a window. The button literally does nothing. What information do I need to provide the people here for proper troubleshooting?
In your RimWorld game directory, find a file called RimWorld_Data/output_log.txt. This is a text file where errors are logged. If the button is appearing as expected but doing nothing when you click on it, there's probably an error happening. You might see some relevant information in the log file.
Quote from: henk on July 21, 2016, 05:53:58 AM
With https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0) not work. When turn off the Miscellaneous w MAI+Robots, EdB works.
Mine works just fine with its enabled
hey how does this work with scenarios? i assume this take precedence over scenario settings?
Alright,I got the log. Looking at the debug window I had open,it looks like an Argument Null Exception Error,if that's the right lingo. So,to anyone who can make sense of it,here ya go. Also,I added LT-No Cleaning Please! and RT Fuse to the load order,immediately above EdBPrepareCarefully at the end of my load order.
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i am jut wondering but when making your colonists during actual play i randomly seem to get disabled work even though prepare carefully said they could do everything just wondering how to fix that?
Quote from: Riddle78 on July 21, 2016, 04:17:42 PM
Alright,I got the log. Looking at the debug window I had open,it looks like an Argument Null Exception Error,if that's the right lingo. So,to anyone who can make sense of it,here ya go. Also,I added LT-No Cleaning Please! and RT Fuse to the load order,immediately above EdBPrepareCarefully at the end of my load order.
Definitely due to one of those mods. There's a modded item somewhere in there that Prepare Carefully is not handling properly and that's breaking it.
Don't want to bring up the same problems over and over, but my pawns reset to their original stats and so do the items that drop down with me after starting the game. I read earlier pages saying it was fixed but I am using the latest version and am still getting the problem.
Quote from: Darkanrath on July 21, 2016, 11:00:44 PM
Don't want to bring up the same problems over and over, but my pawns reset to their original stats and so do the items that drop down with me after starting the game. I read earlier pages saying it was fixed but I am using the latest version and am still getting the problem.
The explanation for this problem has been floating around in this topic for the last few weeks, but it was never called out prominently, so I went ahead and added it to the FAQ section in the original post. Essentially, it's a mod conflict. You can try to solve it by placing Prepare Carefully last in your mod order, but this may break the mod that it conflicts with. Take a look at that FAQ for a little more info.
EDIT: But if that doesn't fix it for you, let me know.
You are correct. Mod Conflict with a map generation mod. Other problems like certain items selected to come with don't spawn and my pawns won't spawn with implants, but I'm sure those are mod conflicts. I'll just mess around with them!
Thank you however.
You would not BELIEVE what mod was causing the conflict. It was Efficient Light. I've left a post in the thread letting the author,and potential users,know. Such a shame,too. I liked that one.
Quote from: dragonheck on July 21, 2016, 04:37:26 PM
i am jut wondering but when making your colonists during actual play i randomly seem to get disabled work even though prepare carefully said they could do everything just wondering how to fix that?
I've found saving then loading fixes this problem.
Just a heads up Misc. MapGenerator from https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0 (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0) will generate a mod conflict that overrides Prepare Carefully no matter what order they are in
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*wolf howling*
Hello community and greetings from vienna/austria
first of all ... EdB thank you so mutch for this mod, it's one of the most importand mods for rimworld in my opinion and thanks for still working on this problems with the A14 updates, after leaving the mod-projekt and give out the source code, so some other guys could take it over ... thanks thanks thanks so mutch EdB
second ... if something of my words sounds wierd, please excuse me, i'm from austria, my mothertongue is german and not english
now i had the same problems, as i was reading here. after reading the last posting of laak i try to testing this out.
well i don't understand anything of programming or mod creating, but if my understanding is right, it does make a difference if one mod is loading befor another. so i created a few times a new world.
as i said, i had the same problems like the other people in here. i was loading my last world and got an error message because of an conflict with the game version. i got into the mod menu and reaktive all of my mods ... inkluding misc. map generator, glitter tech and Edb's PC. but it won't load my world so i deleted it and started a new one and realized my PC_presset was not be accepted by the game .. i got the 3 default colonists. i readed the comments in here and then i stratet to testing that out.
first .... i puttet glitter tech below Prepare carefully in the modmenu, otherwise the PC button would be dead, it would be doing just nothing.
Then i startet a few times a world with this set up in the modmenu
other mods
"prepare carefully"
"misc. mapgenerator"
"glittertech"
in every world i startet like so .. my PC-presset got overwriten and i got the 3 default colonists
I startet a few worlds with this setup in the modmenu
other mods
"misc. mapgenerator"
"prepare carefully"
"glittertech"
in every world i got my costum colonists "Wolve", "Megan Fox", "Amber Marshall" and "Ellie Bishop" ( :P yeah i know i know, one guy and 3 really hot chicks :P )
after doing the changes in the mod menu i manually shut down and reopen Rimworld, so the game have to re initialize the configs and the mods and everything. i don't know, but that is maybee the issue for laaks case. maybee he did not load the game new after changing the setup in the mod menu, if you deactivate a mod and leave the modmenu the game ask you to restart ... but the game doesn't do that if you just set a mod a few bit higher
i've done that and the game seems to work fine for me.
just wanna let you know this xD
greetings ... Wolve
there is a patch for using miscellaneous map generator and EDB prepare carefully: https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
click this link:
(http://i.imgur.com/4bQVV03.png)
after you have gone too the thread. you can find it via scrolling down
i use the misc, the panda the glitter and the epoe along with a host of others, i puts my miscs, all of em, right after ccl, then panda, then edb then the edb mis patch, then everything else. Also i caught 18 pokemon today on pokemon go.
Thank you so much, I really hope someone picks this up if not the Devs because this is a truly amazing option this game direly needs. Sometimes I dont want to start random. :)
EdB - Electronic death Bats
Trying to think what EdB would be an acronym of.
I think it's the guy's name. Can't remember where I saw it though
Any ideas for the error? :'(
I tried by changing mod orders many times, but the same message shows up.
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Quote from: DOMA on July 24, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
Any ideas for the error? :'(
I tried by changing mod orders many times, but the same message shows up.
There's a modded item somewhere in the mods that you're using that Prepare Carefully is not handling properly. That's what's breaking it. You'll need to figure out which mod it is and disable.
After spending about 2 hours building the PERFECT characters, when I press start, nothing happens.
However it works when you build characters sometimes, just not the ones I spent my whole night building...
I had a similar problem due to a mod conflict.
If you are using the Misc World gen mod, there is a patch that is needed. It's in that thread.
I have been saving my carefully constructed characters and setups each time I go through the process.
Quote from: EdB on July 25, 2016, 02:02:23 AM
Quote from: DOMA on July 24, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
Any ideas for the error? :'(
I tried by changing mod orders many times, but the same message shows up.
There's a modded item somewhere in the mods that you're using that Prepare Carefully is not handling properly. That's what's breaking it. You'll need to figure out which mod it is and disable.
Many thanks. It works!
So I have a bit of a non game breaking bug that I noticed when playing around with mods last night to see if I could get A14 close to how I would like it. It could be related to another mod, but as it didn't make the game unplayable, I didn't take the time to fully track it down.
Anyways, if you go to select a pawn's adult backstory from the list, rather than using arrows, the current backstory is not selected in the list. If you then click close without selecting a backstory from the list, then the pawn's childhood backstory will be copied into their adult backstory slot. I'd have to go back to my A12 game to double check, but I don't think that this is not desired behavior. If you need more information, later today I could go back and try to see if I it relates to other mods/order and or give better steps on how to reproduce.
Also, in the event that I find anything else, should I report it on github as opposed to here? At the moment it seems that you are the only one who has opened issues on github, so I didn't want to do such if you preferred to create the issues yourself.
I saw the same behavior that JLBShecky describes on A13. I haven't played around with it enough on A14 to know if it's still occurring.
Is there plans to publish this mod to steam?
Quote from: Krush on July 25, 2016, 02:04:57 PM
Is there plans to publish this mod to steam?
Some Chinese guy already has. Along with a bunch of other mods.
Quote from: JLBShecky on July 25, 2016, 11:58:08 AM
Also, in the event that I find anything else, should I report it on github as opposed to here? At the moment it seems that you are the only one who has opened issues on github, so I didn't want to do such if you preferred to create the issues yourself.
Feel free to post issues to github. Ideally, issues in github should include a list of steps for how to reproduce the problem, like you've done here. I went ahead and added this issue over there. Good bug report--I didn't know about this one!
Quote from: MadMartigan on July 25, 2016, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: Krush on July 25, 2016, 02:04:57 PM
Is there plans to publish this mod to steam?
Some Chinese guy already has. Along with a bunch of other mods.
But is it regularly updated like the github repo?
i realy hope someone takes over soon, so we can have a official and supported version on the workshop....
I'm currently having a bug, though I don't know the source of it. I recently had to rip the entire game and reinstall everything, and suddenly prepare carefully no longer works. I don't get an error, it just won't pop up the window when I click it in the colonists screen.
Edit: Yeah, crap. It's apparently Glitterworld that's conflicting with it. Just got down to disabling it, and it works fine now. I'll see if it still works with the other stuff re-enabled and report back.
Quote from: Lem Wright on July 26, 2016, 07:13:42 AM
I'm currently having a bug, though I don't know the source of it. I recently had to rip the entire game and reinstall everything, and suddenly prepare carefully no longer works. I don't get an error, it just won't pop up the window when I click it in the colonists screen.
Edit: Yeah, crap. It's apparently Glitterworld that's conflicting with it. Just got down to disabling it, and it works fine now. I'll see if it still works with the other stuff re-enabled and report back.
I have glitter world in my game and have no issues. Where is edb in your load order? I have it at the very top of my load order.
I have it really DOWN in my list and it works, with Glitter as well.
Once i tried it in the middle of the list, and it did not show.
Probably best if you try it soon after the core ones, or as the latest !
So far, with a long list of mods, the only one giving me troubles and crapping all the list (needing to re do from scratch) has been Infused, last version.
Will try later this evening, cause it worked just fine a couple of days ago.
;)
I've got Glitterworld installed with this and it works... most of the time. My strategy has been to put this one at the VERY end of the list, all the time, no exceptions.
I still get the error with the start button not working sometimes, the log says something regarding the accessory slot (I'll copy it verbatim next time I see it if you like) but going back to the character's screen and doing several things has made it work:
1. delete any old injuries - this worked a few times, but it may be a coincidence
2. regenerate colonists - I was using ones I'd imported. Recent ones I'd made earlier in the day. No rhyme or reason there I could distinguish.
3. just click around between the health/clothing/relationship tabs and keep going back and trying to start... This has worked for me at least 3 times...
If that all fails I try a different scenario. I think sometimes the scenario affects it, but I haven't tracked which one(s). I can track this down and spend some hardcore time trying to reproduce if anyone thinks it would be helpful.
[Qualifications: testing software is part of my actual job]
Is it possible for someone to port this to Steam? I downloaded it and jammed it into my mods folder, yet can't access it with Steam : (
Quote from: Boston on July 26, 2016, 08:36:15 PM
Is it possible for someone to port this to Steam? I downloaded it and jammed it into my mods folder, yet can't access it with Steam : (
Are you sure that you are actually putting the mod in the correct area? It should go in a directory that looks similar to the following:
Steam\steamapps\common\RimWorld\Mods
If you can't find it, then open up steam and then right click on RimWorld and go to properties. Then go to local files then browse local files which should open up the main RimWorld folder. Open up the mods folder and then extract (with WinRar or 7-zip) the file that you downloaded into the mods folder. Then go in game and activate Prepare Carefully.
Quote from: Boston on July 26, 2016, 08:36:15 PM
Is it possible for someone to port this to Steam? I downloaded it and jammed it into my mods folder, yet can't access it with Steam : (
You need to change the target version in the About file, probably.
Been using his "beta" release no problems. We need to get him a Patreon account or something to thank/make it worth his time, maybe, to keep udpating it.
Quote from: Venatos on July 26, 2016, 05:51:43 AM
i realy hope someone takes over soon, so we can have a official and supported version on the workshop....
I'm looking at the code this weekend and trying to see if I can get the original author to do the initial upload to steam so he has his name credited properly on the workshop, before he hands it off to someone else.
:( :(many bugs doesnt work for alpha 14 please fix :( :(
Quote from: Vicky on July 28, 2016, 07:23:27 AM
:( :(many bugs doesnt work for alpha 14 please fix :( :(
1. Are you actually using the alpha 14 beta version of Prepare Carefully. The link for it is in the third paragraph of the first post.
2. If you are, then what exactly is going wrong as your reply is pretty much worthless as it stands. You're not giving any useful information as to why the beta build, which is working perfectly fine for most people, isn't working for you.
Quote from: Venatos on July 26, 2016, 05:51:43 AM
i realy hope someone takes over soon, so we can have a official and supported version on the workshop....
I've decided that I will be making some final bug fixes and updates to finish out the alpha 14 version and that I will publish it to Steam. I'll try to care of it this weekend.
you probably already know but some Chinese dude called Mrfengshao has already posted a very hit n miss version of this on Steam.
Skullywag is currently having issues with him uploading copies of his mods. you may want to look into it?
Quote from: bazalisk on July 28, 2016, 11:25:42 AM
you probably already know but some Chinese dude called Mrfengshao has already posted a very hit n miss version of this on Steam.
Skullywag is currently having issues with him uploading copies of his mods. you may want to look into it?
I think they resolved the issue, the chinese guy is now on this forum uploading translations, and appears pretty amiable to doing things the "correct" way. Not to say a note to him about any other mods may not be in order, just perhaps to not go in guns blazing to begin with.
Quote from: EdB on July 28, 2016, 10:05:53 AM
I've decided that I will be making some final bug fixes and updates to finish out the alpha 14 version and that I will publish it to Steam. I'll try to care of it this weekend.
As one of the recent players of Rimworld, I haven't been able to use any of your mods. Yet each time I saw one of your screenshots to your mods, or feature lists, I thought that "wow, I really would have liked to use that mod if I could".
Thank you very much for your time and efforts (and to every other modder here whose mods I use in my game).
Hopefully we will also get the update on non-Steam copies ? Is there a way to donate to you via PayPal, once the update is done ?
Quote from: BlackSmokeDMax on July 28, 2016, 11:58:57 AM
Quote from: bazalisk on July 28, 2016, 11:25:42 AM
you probably already know but some Chinese dude called Mrfengshao has already posted a very hit n miss version of this on Steam.
Skullywag is currently having issues with him uploading copies of his mods. you may want to look into it?
I think they resolved the issue, the chinese guy is now on this forum uploading translations, and appears pretty amiable to doing things the "correct" way. Not to say a note to him about any other mods may not be in order, just perhaps to not go in guns blazing to begin with.
Should just submit the translations to the original mods imo.
Quote from: Krush on July 28, 2016, 06:14:59 PM
Quote from: BlackSmokeDMax on July 28, 2016, 11:58:57 AM
Quote from: bazalisk on July 28, 2016, 11:25:42 AM
you probably already know but some Chinese dude called Mrfengshao has already posted a very hit n miss version of this on Steam.
Skullywag is currently having issues with him uploading copies of his mods. you may want to look into it?
I think they resolved the issue, the chinese guy is now on this forum uploading translations, and appears pretty amiable to doing things the "correct" way. Not to say a note to him about any other mods may not be in order, just perhaps to not go in guns blazing to begin with.
Should just submit the translations to the original mods imo.
I believe this is the correct way to do things. :)
I've released a new bug fix version of the mod (v0.14.0.5). I still need to call it a "beta" release, because there are still a few minor bugs that I'm seeing in there--and I'd like people to try it out a bit to make sure that I didn't break anything else.
You can download from github here:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
I think I'm handling problems with modded items better now. That seems to be the biggest issue that people are having with the previous versions. But let me know if you're still having problems with the Prepare Carefully button not doing anything when you click it or with a blank window opening.
If you're using the Community Core Library mod you already know this (and if you're not using it, you really ought to be), but be sure to restart the game when you change your mod order or enable a bunch of new mods!!! Sometimes the game does not handle a complex mod reload properly, and it can cause all sorts of problems.
EDIT: I'm targeting this weekend to try to finish up the first non-beta release and get it up on Steam.
EdB, dude if I had to pick only one mod to use in my game. It would be Prepare Carefully. Love your mod man. Thanks for all the effort.
Downloaded the new version and got this error:
Mod EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5 has incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'. For the current version, write: <targetVersion>0.14.1234</targetVersion>
Even after I changed it in the About.XML
Sorry bud
Quote from: WolfKing on July 28, 2016, 11:36:02 PM
Downloaded the new version and got this error:
Mod EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5 has incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'. For the current version, write: <targetVersion>0.14.1234</targetVersion>
Even after I changed it in the About.XML
Sorry bud
Are you using an earlier release? Are you using Steam--I didn't test it in Steam. I should have done that.
EDIT: Just a note that the latest release of the game is 0.14.1241. That is the version that I am targeting in the mod. Anyone else seeing this issue? It's working ok for me in both Steam and regular version.
Quote from: EdB on July 28, 2016, 11:39:36 PM
Quote from: WolfKing on July 28, 2016, 11:36:02 PM
Downloaded the new version and got this error:
Mod EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5 has incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'. For the current version, write: <targetVersion>0.14.1234</targetVersion>
Even after I changed it in the About.XML
Sorry bud
Are you using an earlier release? Are you using Steam--I didn't test it in Steam. I should have done that.
Right now I'm using 0.14.1234 because I only have access to crapy hotspot. I've wasted 2 downloads trying to get the newest version. Is that the issue?
Edit: I'm not using Steam
Quote from: WolfKing on July 28, 2016, 11:43:41 PM
Quote from: EdB on July 28, 2016, 11:39:36 PM
Quote from: WolfKing on July 28, 2016, 11:36:02 PM
Downloaded the new version and got this error:
Mod EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5 has incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'. For the current version, write: <targetVersion>0.14.1234</targetVersion>
Even after I changed it in the About.XML
Sorry bud
Are you using an earlier release? Are you using Steam--I didn't test it in Steam. I should have done that.
Right now I'm using 0.14.1234 because I only have access to crapy hotspot. I've wasted 2 downloads trying to get the newest version. Is that the issue?
Edit: I'm not using Steam
Yes, that's probably the issue. You tried changing the version manually in the About.xml to
<targetVersion>0.14.1234</targetVersion>? I would expect that to fix it.
Quote from: EdB on July 28, 2016, 11:47:25 PM
Quote from: WolfKing on July 28, 2016, 11:43:41 PM
Quote from: EdB on July 28, 2016, 11:39:36 PM
Quote from: WolfKing on July 28, 2016, 11:36:02 PM
Downloaded the new version and got this error:
Mod EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5 has incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'. For the current version, write: <targetVersion>0.14.1234</targetVersion>
Even after I changed it in the About.XML
Sorry bud
Are you using an earlier release? Are you using Steam--I didn't test it in Steam. I should have done that.
Right now I'm using 0.14.1234 because I only have access to crapy hotspot. I've wasted 2 downloads trying to get the newest version. Is that the issue?
Edit: I'm not using Steam
Yes, that's probably the issue. You tried changing the version manually in the About.xml to <targetVersion>0.14.1234</targetVersion>? I would expect that to fix it.
Yep, just double checked the About.xml. I has my version
Quote from: WolfKing on July 28, 2016, 11:53:42 PM
Yep, just double checked the About.xml. I has my version
Strange. Just curious--are you on Windows or another OS? I'm testing it out with the copy of 0.14.1234 that I still have around (I'm using Windows), and it's working ok for me. I'm wondering what could be different.
Quote from: EdB on July 29, 2016, 12:09:00 AM
Quote from: WolfKing on July 28, 2016, 11:53:42 PM
Yep, just double checked the About.xml. I has my version
Strange. Just curious--are you on Windows or another OS? I'm testing it out with the copy of 0.14.1234 that I still have around (I'm using Windows), and it's working ok for me. I'm wondering what could be different.
I'm using Windows as well. After I place the new update in the mods folder and start RW, I get that error before I even enable the mod. When I go to enable it, it's font is red and I get the same error after restarting RW.
This couldn't be a mod order or mod conflict could it?
@EdB, I love you man! Was going blind trying to get the characters I wanted. Thank you! Oh, there's a filthy rumor going around about you not supporting this awesome mod after A14. That's not a thing, just a filthy rumor right? :)
There is a Steam version for this? I only see the chinese one.
Quote from: Sarelth on July 29, 2016, 10:32:40 PM
There is a Steam version for this? I only see the chinese one.
I have a few bugs left to fix before I can call the alpha 14 version done. I plan to try to do those fixes and complete a Steam release this weekend.
If you want to help test the latest version, you can download from here:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
Sounds good. Will look for errors.
Quote from: EdB on July 29, 2016, 10:58:04 PMI have a few bugs left to fix before I can call the alpha 14 version done. I plan to try to do those fixes and complete a Steam release this weekend.
I started a new colony with a couple of mods, including yours, and so far I haven't spotted any bugs whatsoever during the generation process. I didn't go much further today, but plan to do so tomorrow.
My offer still holds : do you have have a PayPal ?
I would love to buy you a beer, to thank you for your efforts on updating this mod to a version that I can play.
Quote from: ThiIsMe007 on July 29, 2016, 11:40:31 PM
Quote from: EdB on July 29, 2016, 10:58:04 PMI have a few bugs left to fix before I can call the alpha 14 version done. I plan to try to do those fixes and complete a Steam release this weekend.
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My offer still holds : do you have have a PayPal ?
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I appreciate that, but absolutely not necessary. It's a satisfying hobby, and that's good enough for me.
Curious question I have noticed for a long time that you can use EdB Prepare Carefully to get skills above level 20. If you don't know how to do this you can click skills to high levels like 18+ often does this and then hit random on some of background rolls and bingo you can get over 20 easily. Has anyone ever play tested games with values over 20? Does it actually improve your colonists further? Have you had issues using colonists with stats over 20?
Also I don't consider this a bug of EdB as you can easily fix stats over 20 by clicking and adjusting them to the desired level at any time during character creation.
Quote from: viperwasp on July 30, 2016, 02:39:04 AM
values over 20
Is a colonist with a skill over 20 actually better than a colonist with the same skill at 20?
I'm no programmer or owt, but I can offer a hug in thanks for this great mod :)
This mod is absolutely awesome!
I will miss your mods. They are a part of Rimworld for me. I want to thank you for your work on them and wish you well.
I wanted to add my thanks to EdB for a GREAT mod.
They say the difference between a good programmer and a great programmer is giving the user what they really need rather than what they think they need. Dude you've done that with your mods.
Quote from: viperwasp on July 30, 2016, 02:39:04 AM
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Also I don't consider this a bug of EdB as you can easily fix stats over 20 by clicking and adjusting them to the desired level at any time during character creation.
It's definitely not the way that it's intended to work. The way that the game computes skill levels changed two or three alphas ago, and the logic in the mod didn't keep up with it. So there are a couple of weird things that can happen with skill levels as you swap out backstories and traits, including going over 20 skill points. In my mind, it feels like a bug, and it's actually the one I'm working on fixing right now.
Quote from: EdB on July 30, 2016, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: viperwasp on July 30, 2016, 02:39:04 AM
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Also I don't consider this a bug of EdB as you can easily fix stats over 20 by clicking and adjusting them to the desired level at any time during character creation.
Copy pasting characters with higher skills can also double their skills if you do it right. I managed to get a character with 85 shooting and 76 melee. I would have screenshotted but I wasn't thinking of it and they still managed to die in a horrible mechanoid attack.
Example:
Stage 1:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/267221016520831009/03B0B4F71C567BD7CC01B51872C667C63EC59A5F/
Then save that and paste it into the next slot
Stage 2:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/267221016520831187/F25C2BABE5F34F143659EBDEA723FA82479085BB/
Do the same, saving the character and loading the new updated one each time
Stage 3:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/267221016520831315/1BC17A289F13495E6F924710E02DA2869126B45B/
Stage 4:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/267221016520831508/87382BD6C542DDE1F079A751A6706E32BD6C7CE7/
Stage 5 and on:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/267221016520831690/1B4B45292D93F9271539421DD1DD3C162476F186/
Hope this helps. It only happens when you get a skill above 20.
It's definitely not the way that it's intended to work. The way that the game computes skill levels changed two or three alphas ago, and the logic in the mod didn't keep up with it. So there are a couple of weird things that can happen with skill levels as you swap out backstories and traits, including going over 20 skill points. In my mind, it feels like a bug, and it's actually the one I'm working on fixing right now.
Ok bud, I'm using the latest RW update (0.14.1249) and EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5.
With only Core, Community Core Library, Community Core Library - Vanilla Tweaks, and EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5. I get this error again.
Mod EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5 has incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'. For the current version, write: <targetVersion>0.14.1249</targetVersion>
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.Log:ErrorOnce(String, Int32)
Verse.ModMetaData:Init()
Verse.ModMetaData:.ctor(String)
Verse.ModLister:ReBuildModList()
Verse.ModLister:.cctor()
Verse.<>c_Iterator1A4:MoveNext()
Verse.<>c_Iterator1A4:MoveNext()
System.Collections.Generic.List'1:AddEnumerable(IEnumerable'1)
System.Collections.Generic.List'1:.ctor(IEnumerable'1)
Verse.LoadedModManager:LoadAllActiveMods()
Verse.PlayDataLoader:Do PlayLoad()
Verse.PlayDataLoader:Load AllPlayData(Boolean)
Verse.Root:<Start>m_5A2()
Vrese.LongEventHandler:RunEventFromAnotherThread(Action)
Vrese.LongEventHandler:<UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent>m_5A0()
Any Thoughts?
Edit: I did change the About.xml to <targetVersion>0.14.1249</targetVersion>
Quote from: WolfKing on July 30, 2016, 03:34:35 PM
Ok bud, I'm using the latest RW update (0.14.1249) and EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5.
With only Core, Community Core Library, Community Core Library - Vanilla Tweaks, and EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5. I get this error again.
Mod EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5 has incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'. For the current version, write: <targetVersion>0.14.1249</targetVersion>
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.Log:ErrorOnce(String, Int32)
Verse.ModMetaData:Init()
Verse.ModMetaData:.ctor(String)
Verse.ModLister:ReBuildModList()
Verse.ModLister:.cctor()
Verse.<>c_Iterator1A4:MoveNext()
Verse.<>c_Iterator1A4:MoveNext()
System.Collections.Generic.List'1:AddEnumerable(IEnumerable'1)
System.Collections.Generic.List'1:.ctor(IEnumerable'1)
Verse.LoadedModManager:LoadAllActiveMods()
Verse.PlayDataLoader:Do PlayLoad()
Verse.PlayDataLoader:Load AllPlayData(Boolean)
Verse.Root:<Start>m_5A2()
Vrese.LongEventHandler:RunEventFromAnotherThread(Action)
Vrese.LongEventHandler:<UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent>m_5A0()
Any Thoughts?
Edit: I did change the About.xml to <targetVersion>0.14.1249</targetVersion>
Anyone else seeing this issue? I've tried to reproduce it, but I can't get it to happen.
Quote from: WolfKing on July 30, 2016, 03:34:35 PM
Ok bud, I'm using the latest RW update (0.14.1249) and EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5.
With only Core, Community Core Library, Community Core Library - Vanilla Tweaks, and EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5. I get this error again.
Mod EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5 has incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'...
Any Thoughts?
Actually, I was able to reproduce it: make sure that when you extracted the zip, you ended up with a single Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully directory. Make sure you didn't extract the files in a way that gives you an extra directory, i.e. you
don't want the contents of the mod in a Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully/EdBPrepareCarefully directory. You
do want them in a Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully directory.
This is how it looks:
Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully
Properties
Resources
Source
License
EdBPrepareCarefully.sin
.gitignore
EdBPrepareCarefully.csproj
README.md
Quote from: WolfKing on July 30, 2016, 05:57:37 PM
This is how it looks:
Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully
Properties
Resources
Source
License
EdBPrepareCarefully.sin
.gitignore
EdBPrepareCarefully.csproj
README.md
Take another look at the "To install" section on the download page:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
It looks like you downloaded the source code instead of the mod itself. I'll add a note there to make it more clear that you don't want to download using the "Source code" links.
Quote from: EdB on July 30, 2016, 06:11:19 PMIt looks like you downloaded the source code instead of the mod itself. I'll add a note there to make it more clear that you don't want to download using the "Source code" links.
For a little while there I thought Rim World had acquired the ability to compile and run mods from source code.
Quote from: EdB on July 30, 2016, 06:11:19 PM
Take another look at the "To install" section on the download page:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
It looks like you downloaded the source code instead of the mod itself. I'll add a note there to make it more clear that you don't want to download using the "Source code" links.
I DL the zip file labled "EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5" earlier today. I'll redownload it and check it out.
Quote from: WolfKing on July 30, 2016, 06:18:45 PM
Quote from: EdB on July 30, 2016, 06:11:19 PM
Take another look at the "To install" section on the download page:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
It looks like you downloaded the source code instead of the mod itself. I'll add a note there to make it more clear that you don't want to download using the "Source code" links.
I DL the zip file labled "EdBPrepareCarefully-0.14.0.5" earlier today. I'll redownload it and check it out.
Sorry for the confusion. If you accidentally click the "Source Code" link, it can be difficult to tell, because the source code file has the same name as the mod file at the top--but the contents are different. The source code files are added by github automatically when I add a release there. I don't think I can change that.
Well ain't that a bitch, LOL. I must have had too much blood in my caffeine system lately. Sorry for all the trouble, I am a noob with codeing.
Edit: Now I just feel like a tool, LOL
I'm sorry， We put your mod on the workshop on the steam.
We added Chinese, if you can, please upload your workshop to steam on mod.
Attachment is our added and modified Chinese mod. Please refer to our mod and update this mod. We all like him!
It is not easy for us to get on that forum.
Our country has a firewall to organize the outside network, and we are not good at english.
If you want to reply, please send it in my mailbox.
This forum is very hard for us to understand.
[email protected]Or reply under http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=734761947
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I've posted what I consider to be a full alpha 14 release (v0.14.1.1). It addresses some issues that were in the previous alpha 14 releases, but I did have to make a couple of big code changes to do so. Whenever you do that, you run the risk of introducing new problems, so please let me know here on the forum or on github if something looks broken.
You can download from the original post. I'll look at getting it up on Steam as soon as possible.
Quote from: EdB on July 31, 2016, 12:23:31 PM
You can download from the original post. I'll look at getting it up on Steam as soon as possible.
The latest version of the mod is now available from Steam:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=735106432
huh i'm glad you decided to update this mod despite saying you weren't. and thank you so much for giving me what is my #1 most essential mod purely for the ability to add my self, friends, family, and people i come up with into the amazing universe that is rimworld.
Quote from: Dragonknight951 on July 31, 2016, 06:43:48 PM
huh i'm glad you decided to update this mod despite saying you weren't. and thank you so much for giving me what is my #1 most essential mod purely for the ability to add my self, friends, family, and people i come up with into the amazing universe that is rimworld.
Yep, sorry about the back-and-forth on the decision making. I should have thought about it a little longer before saying that I was done with it, but the initial feedback did help motivate me to make it open-source and finish the half-done version that I had at the time. I probably won't be continuing past Alpha 14, but this gives more time for people to pick it up if they want to continue with it.
Quote from: EdB on July 31, 2016, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: Dragonknight951 on July 31, 2016, 06:43:48 PM
huh i'm glad you decided to update this mod despite saying you weren't. and thank you so much for giving me what is my #1 most essential mod purely for the ability to add my self, friends, family, and people i come up with into the amazing universe that is rimworld.
Yep, sorry about the back-and-forth on the decision making. I should have thought about it a little longer before saying that I was done with it, but the initial feedback did help motivate me to make it open-source and finish the half-done version that I had at the time. I probably won't be continuing past Alpha 14, but this gives more time for people to pick it up if they want to continue with it.
well you done alot good work on this mod - you dont have to stop the modding - you can always go back to update it if needed
Even if you choose to move on post-a14, that fact you were willing to release the code is outstanding. This seems to be a highly desired mod, and chances are much higher that someone will be willing to tackle it for a15 and beyond with your source contribution.
Thanks for the latest update EdB, it sure is slick. i used to have minor issues with the GUI from time to time in the last version but they appear to be completely gone now.
Quote from: Autocthon on August 02, 2016, 01:53:10 AM
Thanks for the latest update EdB, it sure is slick. i used to have minor issues with the GUI from time to time in the last version but they appear to be completely gone now.
Remove any previous versions completely. Doesn't matter if you have them deactivated or not. You gotta get them out of your mods folder.
REQUEST 1:
At the "Add Resources and Equipment"
Either Add extra buttons to add/remove 10 and/or 100, OR Allow us to Hold Shift for 10, and Alt for 100.
It would be insanely useful.
REQUEST 2:
When clicking the arrows to change the Adulthood/Childhood things,
have it scroll through the options Alphabetically, please.
QUESTION:
What's the "Point spent" for???
PARTIALLY OF-TOPIC QUESTION:
What file(s) contains the Adulthood/Childhood traits?
I wish to make my own, but can't seem to find them...
EOP:
"That's about all she wrote."
> You gotta get them out of your mods folder.
Wut. How is this even a thing?
hey thanks for the awesome mod . I thought I have limits creating new character but its free its cheating ;D hope they make a system or something .
Quote from: CannibarRechter on August 09, 2016, 11:57:51 AM
> You gotta get them out of your mods folder.
Wut. How is this even a thing?
If you do not remove the old folder with all the files, the new version does not overwrite all the pieces and can get major errors due to trying to use old code that is not meant for the version you are using.
Someone is adopting this mod, right? Pretty please? This is one of a few that I just can't play without.
Quote from: Monzer on August 10, 2016, 05:58:14 PM
hey thanks for the awesome mod . I thought I have limits creating new character but its free its cheating ;D hope they make a system or something .
it used to have a point system, but basically using this mod "it´s cheating" (it´s a single player game, so it´s up to you what it´s cheating and what not). The creator removed the point system since I guest was silly if anyways you are going to modify what you´re going to get at start.
Also, anyone already tested if works with the latest build? (with other mods too).
I miss this mod, I can´t live without my psychopath starting workers.
The point value is a limit of sorts. It's a self-imposed limit. Pick a point value you find to be fair and don't go over it.
It does work with the current build. But you don't need it to guarantee a trait, you can do that in the scenario generator
Quote from: C0pper on August 09, 2016, 11:50:35 AM
QUESTION:
What's the "Point spent" for???
Probably just a hold-over. Previous versions had an optional point limit you could enable to keep your start comparable to a vanilla one.
This has probably been covered in the last 87 pages, but when you save a character preset, where is it saved to? I want to share custom characters with someone, how do I find those preset files?
Edit: Nevermind! It was a buried AppData folder. We should add this to the original post, I figure.
C:\Users\<User>\AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld\PrepareCarefully\
Anybody have any tips for using Prepare Carefully? Like any particularly good / fun / interesting settings (backstories, etc.)?
Is this even safe to use anymore? I've heard it breaks mapgen with some mods and it's incompatible with a lot of different character-based mods.
All mods that change mapgen are incompatible with eachother. Prepare Carefully is no different. Not sure about the character stuff.
QuoteAll mods that change mapgen are incompatible with eachother.
Ah, I see. This sounds like something CCL should be able to solve.
this is probably my favorite mod...
(also use soylent green, less incident trolling, pawn state icons, mine vein,
ed's omni gel, more vanilla turrets, embrasures, plant24h)
has anyone picked up the torch on this project, for the soon to be released alpha 15?
Just checking in to see if there's any chance of this being updated to A15?
If not please let us know here so those of us that plan to stick with whatever version of Rimworld is the last one Prepare Carfully works with can know ahead of time so we can back up our A14 installs and all our other favorite mods before they get updated to A15. (Especially since the Steam workshop auto updates mods so once A15 launches lots of mods will auto update to it as the creators release the new versions.)
Dibs.
New guy here. I've updated this mod to A15.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9u3hdchkt9odfoa/Prepare%20Carefully.zip?dl=0
Download and use at your own risk. Also I'm not sure what the appropriate way to share this file is, so I'm open to suggestions.
It's not perfect but it should be usable. Two major issues - firstly, it no longer warns if you're using another map generator mod which would overwrite it; secondly, you can't start your colonists with the new addictions (yet). Neither of these issues are totally critical, though.
Opening a project under github appears to be a common answer to sharing files for rimworld. The other thing that is common is dropbox.
Quote from: theothersteve7 on August 18, 2016, 11:01:46 AM
Dibs.
New guy here. I've updated this mod to A15.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9u3hdchkt9odfoa/Prepare%20Carefully.zip?dl=0
Download and use at your own risk. Also I'm not sure what the appropriate way to share this file is, so I'm open to suggestions.
It's not perfect but it should be usable. Two major issues - firstly, it no longer warns if you're using another map generator mod which would overwrite it; secondly, you can't start your colonists with the new addictions (yet). Neither of these issues are totally critical, though.
First off I haven't tried out this build as I am still rocking A14, so I can't give any real feedback. That being said I do have two thoughts that I felt are worth sharing.
First off I would recommend that you fork the project on github that way your changes easily be merged back into the main repository in the future and it makes things like other people contributing translations fairly simple if they know how to use git/github. Also github makes it fairly simple to do releases and versioning, so the end users don't have to worry about not being able to get a specific version of a mod.
Secondly, about the map generator warning. If I read the patch notes for A15 correctly, then the way that map generators are supposed to be added to the base game has changed in A15, specifically so that mods don't wipe out each other's changes. If you didn't change things to work the new way then you might want to look into doing such.
Here's the github link.
https://github.com/theothersteve7/EdBPrepareCarefully
Going to need to find another map generator mod to test with. I did have to "rewrite" the map generator XML, though it wasn't a whole lot of work. I'm not really sure how multiple generators running on the same map would work from a design standpoint.
Quote from: JLBShecky on August 18, 2016, 07:20:58 PM
Secondly, about the map generator warning. If I read the patch notes for A15 correctly, then the way that map generators are supposed to be added to the base game has changed in A15, specifically so that mods don't wipe out each other's changes. If you didn't change things to work the new way then you might want to look into doing such.
that was my thoughts exactly
that last update that added back in the budget selection seems to have bloated the budget cost for bionics. it was like 1500 points per before and now is like 4000 points per. so my budget went from like 15k to 40k which is insane.
or maybe the expanded prosthetics mod i just installed with the patch changed the values of the vanilla bionics?
I have a problem I don't know if it is caused by a mod or not but I installed and activated EDB prepare carefully and when creating a new colony when I want to edit/add colonists I click the prepare carefully button but nothing is happening. I use Hardcore SK modpack with some of my mods (it was working before until I tried translating this mod into my language but tried downloading and installing it again)
Help would be appreciated!
PS: I have CCL
EDIT: I fixed it by disabling Misc. Incidents and Misc. Training
(http://i68.tinypic.com/15gfa8i.png)
What is that supposed to mean?
Some pawns are assumed to have been in cryptosleep for years/centuries/millennia, so they have a biological and a chronological age displayed.
Your tinypic is very tiny, by the way. I'd recommend slightly less tiny screenshots. ;)
guys, does anyone know a combo of adult + child backstory that will give 0 baseline on all stats and capable to do everything? looking to save that as a starting preset, really annoying having stats locked due to backstory combos, don't care about roleplay
Im getting the following error with Prepare Carefully, any tips or ideas?
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At work so I can't test it but anyone able to confirm if the beta alpha 15 still version works with the release alpha 15?
Updated to Alpha 15.
Quote from: EdB on August 29, 2016, 03:13:23 AM
Updated to Alpha 15.
Thanks, that was really quick
SO where has the A14 version run off to? Is there no way to DL it now?
Nevermind, I had to dig in github to find it. Just have to learn to look before asking.
Quote from: Autocthon on August 29, 2016, 03:20:09 AM
Quote from: EdB on August 29, 2016, 03:13:23 AM
Updated to Alpha 15.
Thanks, that was really quick
Steam early access for experimental builds allows modders to monkey around with their code in preparation for the next major update.
Thank you so much for your quick update. I could not even consider playing without your mod!
Thank you very much for the update of this essential mod.
Thanks for the update!
is there a way to stop people with added bionics/organs not spawn with the (just installed/initialrejection) in the health tab?
started with 2 colonists 1 with 1 without 'upgrades', the 1 with died a few days later rejecting one of the organs.
thanx for a15, as usual
Question on this mod. Anybody think there might be a better way to do the point system. Everytime I load my older colonists it is either they are way over the point limit or way under. Just wondering if there is a better way to approach the point based system
thank you!
hey im getting blank screen when use anyidea why ? I'm disabling ccl for the moment as its outdated but I did't read that its a req for the mod
Quote from: Monzer on August 30, 2016, 08:08:14 PM
hey im getting blank screen when use anyidea why ? I'm disabling ccl for the moment as its outdated but I did't read that its a req for the mod
Be sure that you have the most recent version if you're playing Alpha 15, but this is typically caused by a conflict with another mod. You might need to spend some time figuring out which one is causing the problem. Be sure that you restart the game after you enable or disable mods--sometimes the game doesn't do a good job of doing this on its own.
EDIT: If you look at the game log, that can give you an idea of where the failure is happening in Prepare Carefully--this can make it easier for me to track down the issue. But if it's a failure caused by another mod, it may or may not help to narrow down which one it is. Fluffy's guide is a good place to start on how to report bugs in mods: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=725234314
Hi, EdB,
When this conflict occurs, is there a general cause, such as conflicting MapGenerator definitions, or some such?
Quote from: CannibarRechter on September 01, 2016, 08:21:58 AM
Hi, EdB,
When this conflict occurs, is there a general cause, such as conflicting MapGenerator definitions, or some such?
In general, the error where you get a black screen when you click on the "Prepare Carefully" button happens because something goes wrong when the mod is initializing the equipment list. The mod goes through every item in the game, categorizes it and assigns a cost to it. If an unexpected error happens during this process, the mod can end up completely broken. Ultimately, this is a bug in the Prepare Carefully mod--there's someplace in the code where I'm making an assumption and not doing proper error-checking. I fixed the worst of these bugs with the second Alpha 14 release, but it wouldn't surprise me if a few of them were still in there.
The good news on these errors is that if you look at the error log, it usually gives a good idea of where the error is happening. So if you can find that log and post a screen grab of it somewhere, it can help a lot towards me fixing the problem.
I haven't played Rimworld in many months and just saw it was on steam so i quickly got my key and am ready to play. But wait....is EdB's Prepare carefully updated because there is no way I am throwing myself at the game without this mod...
Came here and voila! EdB you are my HERO! Thank you so much for being such a huge part of this community and for using your enormous brain for our fun :)
Did a quick release of the mod built against the Alpha 15c release to try to solve compatibility issues that some people are having.
thank you
hey man when I click ' create character ' nothing appears on the screen what should I do ? :'(
every time I open prepare carefully I'm just with a blank screen and I'm meet with. what do I do? can't live without this mod. :'( :'( :'(
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Hey EdB, I have A15c and I just downloaded your 0.15.1.2 version. When loaded it up, I got the following errors:
Exception loading ._EdBPrepareCarefully.dll: System.BadImageFormatException:
at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.AppDomain:LoadAssemblyRaw (byte[],byte[],System.Security.Policy.Evidence,bool)
at System.AppDomain.Load (System.Byte[] rawAssembly, System.Byte[] rawSymbolStore, System.Security.Policy.Evidence securityEvidence, Boolean refonly) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.AppDomain.Load (System.Byte[] rawAssembly, System.Byte[] rawSymbolStore, System.Security.Policy.Evidence securityEvidence) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.AppDomain:Load (byte[],byte[],System.Security.Policy.Evidence)
at System.AppDomain.Load (System.Byte[] rawAssembly) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.AppDomain:Load (byte[])
at Verse.ModAssemblyHandler.ReloadAll () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Exception reading ._CarefullyPawnRelations_FamilyByBlood.xml as XML: System.Xml.XmlException: Document element did not appear. Line 1, position 1.
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNode (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.Load (System.Xml.XmlReader xmlReader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.LoadXml (System.String xml) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.LoadableXmlAsset..ctor (System.String name, System.String fullFolderPath, System.String contents) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Exception reading ._CarefullyPawnRelations_FamilyByChoice.xml as XML: System.Xml.XmlException: Document element did not appear. Line 1, position 1.
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNode (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.Load (System.Xml.XmlReader xmlReader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.LoadXml (System.String xml) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.LoadableXmlAsset..ctor (System.String name, System.String fullFolderPath, System.String contents) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Exception reading ._CarefullyPawnRelations_Misc.xml as XML: System.Xml.XmlException: Document element did not appear. Line 1, position 1.
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNode (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.Load (System.Xml.XmlReader xmlReader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.LoadXml (System.String xml) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.LoadableXmlAsset..ctor (System.String name, System.String fullFolderPath, System.String contents) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Exception reading ._MapGenerators.xml as XML: System.Xml.XmlException: Document element did not appear. Line 1, position 1.
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNode (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.Load (System.Xml.XmlReader xmlReader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.LoadXml (System.String xml) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.LoadableXmlAsset..ctor (System.String name, System.String fullFolderPath, System.String contents) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Exception reading ._ScenParts_Fixed.xml as XML: System.Xml.XmlException: Document element did not appear. Line 1, position 1.
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNode (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.Load (System.Xml.XmlReader xmlReader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlDocument.LoadXml (System.String xml) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.LoadableXmlAsset..ctor (System.String name, System.String fullFolderPath, System.String contents) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Found no usable data when trying to get defs from file CarefullyPawnRelations_FamilyByBlood.xml
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Found no usable data when trying to get defs from file CarefullyPawnRelations_FamilyByChoice.xml
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Found no usable data when trying to get defs from file CarefullyPawnRelations_Misc.xml
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Could not find type named EdB.PrepareCarefully.GenStep_ScenParts from node <genStep Class="EdB.PrepareCarefully.GenStep_ScenParts" />
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Exception loading from System.Xml.XmlElement: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.MissingMethodException: Cannot create an abstract class 'Verse.GenStep'.
at System.Activator.CheckAbstractType (System.Type type) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Activator.CreateInstance (System.Type type, Boolean nonPublic) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Activator.CreateInstance (System.Type type) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.XmlToObject.ObjectFromXml[GenStep] (System.Xml.XmlNode xmlRoot, Boolean doPostLoad) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Reflection.MonoMethod:InternalInvoke (object,object[],System.Exception&)
at System.Reflection.MonoMethod.Invoke (System.Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.Reflection.MonoMethod.Invoke (System.Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Reflection.MethodBase.Invoke (System.Object obj, System.Object[] parameters) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.XmlToObject.ObjectFromXml[GenStepDef] (System.Xml.XmlNode xmlRoot, Boolean doPostLoad) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Could not find a type named EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 37)
Exception loading from translation file C:\Users\Chett\My Games\RimWorldAlpha15cWin\Mods\EdBPrepareCarefully\Languages\English\Keyed\._EdBPrepareCarefully.xml: System.Xml.XmlException: invalid data.
at System.Xml.XmlStreamReader.Read (System.Char[] dest_buffer, Int32 index, Int32 count) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.ReadTextReader (Int32 remained) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.PeekChar () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.ReadContent () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Mono.Xml.XmlFilterReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.Linq.XDocument.ReadContent (System.Xml.XmlReader reader, LoadOptions options) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.Linq.XDocument.LoadCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader, LoadOptions options) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.Linq.XDocument.Load (System.String uri, LoadOptions options) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Xml.Linq.XDocument.Load (System.String uri) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.XmlLoaderSimple+<ValuesFromXmlFile>c__Iterator1BE.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.LoadedLanguage.LoadFromFile_Keyed (System.IO.FileInfo file) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Hope this helps.
Quote from: BaconBits on September 09, 2016, 01:11:22 PM
Hey EdB, I have A15c and I just downloaded your 0.15.1.2 version. When loaded it up, I got the following errors:
...
Unusual errors. Did you download the mod from Dropbox or Github? It looks to me like the mod installation might be somehow corrupted.
For example, the errors reference a file called "Languages\English\Keyed\._EdBPrepareCarefully.xml". That file should not exist in the mod. The file name is "Languages\English\Keyed\EdBPrepareCarefully.xml", without the "._" prefix. Which OS are you on? Windows, Mac or Linux?
I'd recommend deleting the mod folder, re-downloading and re-installing it just to make sure.
@EdB: I got it from the dorpbox link and I use windows. I will download it again with github.
Edit: After re-install, all is good. thanks bud
Hi,
prepare carefully is a very wonderful mod. I´m totaly happy to play with it and create my family with it to send it into a unknown planet.
Now I have a Problem with the relationships.
I create 3 Charakters , one man, and two women.
The man is the lover of woman (a) and the father of woman (b)
woman (a) is the lover of the man and the mother of woman (b)
woman (b) is the child of both.
if i set the relationship like that, the game/mod automatically set the man and woman (a) as exlovers (automatically ex lover and me-choosen lover exist at the same time)
mostly the "exlover" problem creates itself when the game starts. the 3 persons landing and than at social you can see that the man and woman (a) are lovers and exlovers (wich deletes 15 sympathie points).
If they are married it creates the same problem. I don´t understand why. I think its a bug. I hope you can help me :)
thanks
Can someone please make a ALPHA 13 edb prepare carefully mod.
Quote from: hunter 51 on September 24, 2016, 08:50:09 AM
Can someone please make a ALPHA 13 edb prepare carefully mod.
The Alpha 13 version of the mod is still available for download from Dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/snvgtzplfbwb2v8/EdBPrepareCarefully-0.13.1.1.zip?dl=0
Quote from: Jodie Rosewood on September 23, 2016, 10:17:12 AM
Hi,
prepare carefully is a very wonderful mod. I´m totaly happy to play with it and create my family with it to send it into a unknown planet.
Now I have a Problem with the relationships.
Unfortunately, creating relationships like this is a problem right now. I do plan on fixing it at some point.
Its too bad there isnt a semi fix to randomize relationships so we can still choose gear and people it self and suck it up on the relationship. I cant even force load the mod and I wanted to start from scratch. Hope I dont get a bunch of lazy colonists starting off ;p
Derp steam version works woot!
thank you for the a15 update!! dont know if it works for me yet but i appreciate it being here ;3;
Hello, EdB!
I'd translated you mods to Chinese.
Could you allow add the language data to your mods?
So that player those subscribe you steam workshop can use your mod in Chinese.
If it's ok, tell me your email by messege, I'd be grateful to you!
Hey I've got a suggestion you could add to the relationship tab for colonists. If it is possible (I think it is always randomized) you could add an option to set the hidden (it's hidden in regular gameplay, but can be seen with dev mode enabled by looking at the social tab on colonists) compatibility and attraction values between colonists. This would save many re-rolls.
There is a relationships tab, but nothing for the compatibility thing.
I noticed an oddity/bug when setting up a few characters to illustrate a a scene. Specifically, if the biological and chronological ages are set to the same value, the chronological age is reduced by one:
(http://i.imgur.com/gCAadm6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bzPMdNc.jpg)
Also, is there a way to spawn new prepared characters into an existing save? Or will I need to start a new landing whenever I need to add more actors?
I know you can save character in the prepare carefully mod, but it would be nice to be able to save characters after the game starts. Such as some random NPC comes and you get to like them. And you want to re-use them in another game start, but don't want to have to write down every stat about them.
In short please make a "save player" work for in game players.
I downloaded the mod, but i'm having an error. i dont know if that error is from the game, or the mod. someone can help me?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=793367333
Quote from: gabrielziller on November 04, 2016, 02:02:36 PM
I downloaded the mod, but i'm having an error. i dont know if that error is from the game, or the mod. someone can help me?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=793367333
This seems like there are assets from mods no longer installed on the ground there, and that's why there are the red x's. Try loading mods that you used on that save previously, and try to remove all the modded stuff before uninstalling the mod, or simply, just start a new save.
Hello, I love your mod, it's amazing and I can't play without it after installing :)
But there's one little issue with the interface, the add items interface in particular.
It should allow users to type a specific number of the amount of items they want to have. Like...it hurts my finger a lot to click the mouse ninety nine times just to get the amount of silver I'll get in the beginning from 1 to 100. :(
Anyway...good job.
First, I just wanted to say that I love this mod!
That said, I have found what I am certain is an obscure bug:
Steps to repeat:
(1) Create colonists and make sure that at least one of them has a skin tone other than the default "white" (which is choice #4 out of 5 on the color of Head Choice).
(2) Click [Save Preset], saving it as {some name}.
(3) Makes some changes or reload, then click [Load Preset] to load {some name}.
The bug? The [Save Preset] option does not seem to save the skin color of colonists. It always seems to revert to the default white. Another words, the [Save Preset] button seems to be, dare I say, rather racist. ??? :-[ ::)
As I like my starting characters to be at least a little diverse, I have to remember to manually click on Head Choice and change the colors back to what they were every time I load a preset with a group that is not all white.
Glad to know that the mod reverts to the default white skin tone upon reload and it wasn't my oversight a billion times (lots of restarts before I discovered Map Reroll).
it would be awesome to see a application version of the character creator that i can load my mods into (for modded clothing purposes) and launch separate to rimworld to make characters while doing other things like watching youtube then have a button to export the characters (or at least just save them)
if that's all a little complex it's fine, i just wanted to suggest the idea
A test version of the mod is available for those of you who want to try it with Alpha 16:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v0.16.0.2
As always with these releases, they tend to be a little unstable and buggy at first, so only try it out if you're willing to put up with some instability. Feel free to post issues here if you run any problems.
Yes! Thank you for A16! So timely!
[A16]
Switching a characters background doesn't change what is shown as disabled.
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Quote from: cat2002 on December 13, 2016, 10:22:49 PM
[A16]
Switching a characters background doesn't change what is shown as disabled.
Thanks for the bug report. I did another release that should fix this problem. Let me know if it's still there or if you run into anything else:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v0.16.0.2
Some low-priority feature request:
I prefer to set pawn chronological age same as biological age.
But chronological age can be really large number (e.g. 400 years), UI does not allow to input the number directly, and clicking button 400 times is annoying. Is it possible to add "Copy biological age to chronological age" button?
Quote from: denspb on December 14, 2016, 12:02:46 PM
Some low-priority feature request:
I prefer to set pawn chronological age same as biological age.
But chronological age can be really large number (e.g. 400 years), UI does not allow to input the number directly, and clicking button 400 times is annoying. Is it possible to add "Copy biological age to chronological age" button?
If you hold down the button you want it to change and drag it it that direction, it changes the age faster.
But not instantly , that's the problem.
Can we get a compatibility patch for Facial Stuff?
I've done a release of the mod to match the official Alpha 16 update. As always, sometimes early mod releases for new alphas are buggy, so please let me know if you run into any issues.
niiicee...
Would it be possible to make adjustments to make Verify Start more easily integrate with this mod? In the past, theubie made a patch for his mod to work specifically with this one but it seems he's having trouble doing that this time around...
While using it with facial stuff and in the prepare carefully page. I can not access any hair features. The screen just goes black completely. The game keeps running, but the page is blank.
Pressing escape returns back to the previous page.
Not sure if this would be a case for prepare carefully or facial stuff?
Does anyone know where I can find the Alpha 15 download, because I want to take a look at some of my old presets?
Quote from: KCloud on December 21, 2016, 12:33:52 PM
Does anyone know where I can find the Alpha 15 download, because I want to take a look at some of my old presets?
This is the most recent Alpha 15 release: https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v0.15.1.3
I've never modded Rimworld before, but this is exactly what I need. Thanks so much!
I cannot see the prepare carefully button anywhere :( (A16)
Thanks for the good work EdB!
This is the single most important mod in making RW fun for me!
I'd like to make one request/suggestion:
A16 seems to support at least 7 traits per pawn. It'd be great if Prepare Carefully could also let you set 7 traits instead of only 3.
Anyway, keep up the good work!
Prepare carefully doesn't seem to recognize EPOE artificial organs anymore. Could this be fixed? I wanted to throw my cyborgs into the game :(
Quote from: ChairmanPoo on December 29, 2016, 05:56:25 PM
Prepare carefully doesn't seem to recognize EPOE artificial organs anymore. Could this be fixed? I wanted to throw my cyborgs into the game :(
load order have this on top
I have it on top. In fact, I've tried both PC on top and EPOE on top. Still no cigar :(
For the life of me I can't figure why this isn't working. I can install ADVANCED bionic eyes and the like, but not synthetic organs
This is my current setup
http://pasteboard.co/gc7waxgcy.png
This is what shows up: http://pasteboard.co/geSW3Jaks.png
As a sidenote: I disabled all mods except EPOE and prepare carefully and it STILL didn't work
I'm also having this issue regardless of load order with both epoe and glittertech. Strangely enough Orassans will show SOME modded parts, but not all.
Quote from: Lennbolt7 on December 31, 2016, 10:07:41 AM
I'm also having this issue regardless of load order with both epoe and glittertech.
Lennbolt7,
ChairmanPooEdB PC version 16.1.2 or 16.1.3?
http://pasteboard.co/gu8oJvLnR.png
http://pasteboard.co/gu92blJIy.png
Update on 12/24/2016 9:04:06 AM.
v0.16.1.3
Includes a mod compatibility fix for the list of available bionics/implants.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/changelog/735106432
EdB Prepare Carefully 16.1.3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wmvcrn8hhhsn1ro/EdB%20Prepare%20Carefully%2016.1.3.rar?dl=0
EdB Prepare Carefully 16.1.4
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ad8p0qhy4m45abc/EdB%20Prepare%20Carefully%20%2016.1.4.rar?dl=0
Quote from: Lennbolt7 on December 31, 2016, 10:07:41 AM
Strangely enough Orassans will show SOME modded parts, but not all.
Orassans have built-in "EdB PC"
I was using 1.6.1.2
I've been provided the latest version since and now it works.
Quote from: ChairmanPoo on December 31, 2016, 02:03:45 PM
I was using 1.6.1.2
I've been provided the latest version since and now it works.
Apologies that it took me a little while to update the download links in the forum topic with the latest release. They should now be up-to-date.
The last couple of patch releases fixed the issues where EPOE bionics were not available in Prepare Carefully and fixed errors that were happening if you tried to equip certain items--including the backpacks from Combat Realism.
Hello! Loving the mod!
However, something I've noticed in my game (I'm not sure if that's expected behavior as of now or not), is that some of the backgrounds seem to have a preset gender or name/nickname assigned to them in their descriptions (and I assume it also affects combinations in a randomly generated pawn).
Quick example, selecting the "Space Smuggler" child background for my female colonist Ariane gives her the not-so fitting background description of "Aided by his small size, Tater became very adept at carrying out his parents' missions [...]".
Now I'm wondering, might it be possible to modify the descriptions to have them reflect the nick/name and gender of the colonist instead?
Thanks in advance for any answers about that one!
BlackGyver:
That is Vanilla, not Prepare Carefully; PC simply makes it apparent, because those backstories are usually tied to specific characters that are always rolled together; So Space Smuggler is a background for a male Name-in-Game character (I don't know all of the reward tiers, and it's the same idea) named Tater;
Theoretically, the description should still use the wildcards, but it's not uncommon for them to not do so.
Right, thanks for confirming that Darius, I was suspecting as much. However, since it is made apparent by this mod and can create odd combinations, I was also wondering if EdB (or someone able to) might want to take the time to switch those named/incorrectly gendered descriptions to wildcards instead. That would be really neat!
Minor, really, but neat! :)
I'm not entirely certain that's possible? If it is, I'd be thrilled, too.
There is a mod (currently incorporated into CCL, no longer available as a standalone for current Alphas) that allows you to create new backstories, and within certain limits replace existing ones, but I haven't found anything that indicates that editing existing entries is moddable.
So I dunno if you've been watching the Psychology mod, but being a fan of both of these mods, I figured I would point this out and hope really hard it happens:
Quote from: Psychology on January 04, 2017, 11:18:49 PM
The Kinsey scale is compatible with Prepared Carefully but you can't set your colonists' sexualities, if that's what you mean. I don't know how difficult that would be to add. It's probably something that's easier for Prepared Carefully to do.
EdB, is there anyway of getting the compatibility and attractiveness stuff included on the relationship screen so we can mess with it, this looks like a big ask as it might involve hacking thingIDs and stuff (the compatibility uses them as its random hash) but its something ive wanted to change for a while now. ( like to stick my family in the game, i know im a terrible human being...)
Preview of the character doesn't update correctly when changing clothing material.
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Hi, I keep getting a bug every so often where I start a new game and my pawns never spawn. I originally posted about it (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=24648.msg300466#msg300466) in the Psychology mod's thread, because I thought it was a conflict, but according to the author it seems to be a problem internal to Prepare Carefully.
Here are the log entries I think are relevant:
Initializing new game with mods Core, HugsLib, Better Pathfinding, MineItAll, EdB Prepare Carefully, Allow Tool, Hand Me That Brick, Cooks Can Refuel, Refactored Work Priorities, Spoons Hair Mod, Hospitality A16, Numbers, Blueprints, Shift-Click, Roof Support A16, JTReplaceWalls, Day/Night Switch, Psychology, and Mod List Backup
Verse.Log:Message(String)
Verse.Game:InitNewGame()
Verse.Root_Play:<Start>m__737()
Verse.LongEventHandler:RunEventFromAnotherThread(Action)
Verse.LongEventHandler:<UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent>m__733()
Faction Rimville has null relation with Rimville. Returning dummy relation.
Verse.Log:Error(String)
RimWorld.Faction:RelationWith(Faction, Boolean)
RimWorld.FactionUtility:HostileTo(Faction, Faction)
RimWorld.GenHostility:HostileTo(Thing, Faction)
Hospitality.GuestUtility:IsGuest(Pawn)
Hospitality.Detouring.Pawn_NeedsTracker:ShouldHaveNeed(Pawn_NeedsTracker, NeedDef)
RimWorld.Pawn_NeedsTracker:AddOrRemoveNeedsAsAppropriate()
RimWorld.PawnComponentsUtility:AddAndRemoveDynamicComponents(Pawn, Boolean)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.GenStep_ScenParts:ReplaceColonists()
EdB.PrepareCarefully.GenStep_ScenParts:Generate(Map)
Verse.MapGenerator:GenerateContentsIntoMap(MapGeneratorDef, Map)
Verse.MapGenerator:GenerateMap(IntVec3, Int32, MapParent, Action`1, MapGeneratorDef)
Verse.Game:InitNewGame()
Verse.Root_Play:<Start>m__737()
Verse.LongEventHandler:RunEventFromAnotherThread(Action)
Verse.LongEventHandler:<UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent>m__733()
System.Collections.Generic.KeyNotFoundException: The given key was not present in the dictionary.
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[Verse.ThingDef,System.Collections.Generic.List`1[Verse.Thing]].get_Item (Verse.ThingDef key) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.ListerThings.Remove (Verse.Thing t) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Thing.DeSpawn () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.ThingWithComps.DeSpawn () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Pawn.DeSpawn () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.ThingContainer.TryAdd (Verse.Thing item, Boolean canMergeWithExistingStacks) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.DropPodUtility.DropThingGroupsNear (IntVec3 dropCenter, Verse.Map map, System.Collections.Generic.List`1 thingsGroups, Int32 openDelay, Boolean instaDrop, Boolean leaveSlag, Boolean canRoofPunch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.GenStep_ScenParts.SpawnColonistsWithEquipment (Verse.Map map, RimWorld.ScenPart_PlayerPawnsArriveMethod arriveMethodPart) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.GenStep_ScenParts.Generate (Verse.Map map) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.MapGenerator.GenerateContentsIntoMap (Verse.MapGeneratorDef def, Verse.Map map) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.MapGenerator:GenerateContentsIntoMap(MapGeneratorDef, Map)
Verse.MapGenerator:GenerateMap(IntVec3, Int32, MapParent, Action`1, MapGeneratorDef)
Verse.Game:InitNewGame()
Verse.Root_Play:<Start>m__737()
Verse.LongEventHandler:RunEventFromAnotherThread(Action)
Verse.LongEventHandler:<UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent>m__733()
Here's the full gist: https://gist.github.com/1f532151736aaf1e39d75c521e7ebdbe
Here's my save: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12713582/Craterton2%20%28Permadeath%29.rws
"Prepare Carefully" Adds 50+ Power Armour. 70000 Berries 900 Charge Rifles. 700 Muffolos
Every player sets their own challenges, and there's a "points limit" option for those that can't. Giving yourself a ton of resources on embark is no different than exploiting a vanilla game behavior, it's up to you to do or not do it, and you'll have no one but yourself to blame if it makes things too easy for you.
what happened to the version that is compatible with humanoid alien races mod?
When I change the clothing material (ex. Cloth to Synthread) the color doesn't change. Its annoying. But when I start, they spawn with the right material and color.
No need to rush on fixing thus, I'm just reporting the bug. :)
Hello!
I have a strange feature request, it's something that came to mind on a topic at first unrelated to Prepare Carefully; live pawns stored in a save seriously tank performance (even idle ones, and even pawns stored in cryptosleep caskets), too many on a map and it's death by stuttering.
Now there might be a solution to it that also happens to go well with Prepare Carefully; the ability to export/import pawns encountered during play and to store them in a different file than the savefile.
Not only would it make it possible to start a new game with an exported pawn you've found in your last one without going through tons of hoops, but it could also solve the issue of map overcrowding if given the option of a "hot" import (import a character previously stored in a file during an ongoing game) by allowing you to "store" a number of pawns aside without hogging resources.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this!
Hi EdB!
I'm sorry about this, Every time I try to load the mod, I get a big list of XML exceptions and the game won't run. I'm running A16, a fresh download of the mod from drop box and it's running on a Mac. This happens with several different mods, but not all, and the one I'm most interested in is yours.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Could I get a hand? Also, my player.log file is too large to attach. Is there another way for me to attach it or get it to you?
Do you( or anyone) happen to let me know how I eliminate limit or increase colonists' number more than 12? so that I could put more colonists in game. I WANT A HUGE TRIBE! :)
Quote from: Quintilianus on February 12, 2017, 07:24:56 AM
Do you( or anyone) happen to let me know how I eliminate limit or increase colonists' number more than 12? so that I could put more colonists in game. I WANT A HUGE TRIBE! :)
You're stuck like that. It's not ideal but your only course to take (if you're that bent on not waiting to recruit colonists) is to use the dev console to spawn in extra members. You cannot customize them, of course, but it's as close as you're gonna get.
Does it exist mod like EdB Prepare Carefully and Verify Start, but:
1. More customizable than Verify Start?
2. Do not cheat like EdB Prepare Carefully?
Quote from: MikeNew on February 17, 2017, 03:53:10 AM
Does it exist mod like EdB Prepare Carefully and Verify Start, but:
1. More customizable than Verify Start?
2. Do not cheat like EdB Prepare Carefully?
I'm confused you can't use points? Or can't control yourself? Every time I see comments like this both on the workshop, and here it always gets me slightly annoyed and confused. All you have to do is not give your people overpowered items.
Quote from: Dragoon on February 18, 2017, 10:02:39 AM
I'm confused you can't use points? Or can't control yourself?
When using Prepare Carefully I like to give myself purchase costs to make it entertaining. So I made some rules for my starting team:
- Everyone starts with level-5 skills across the board
- Everyone gets one level-10 skill
- Everyone gets two level-8 skills
- Everyone takes one level-3 skill
- Everyone gets one favorite skill buff
- Everyone gets three competent skill buffs
Quote from: AngleWyrm on February 19, 2017, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: Dragoon on February 18, 2017, 10:02:39 AM
I'm confused you can't use points? Or can't control yourself?
When using Prepare Carefully I like to give myself purchase costs to make it entertaining. So I made some rules for my starting team:
- Everyone starts with level-5 skills across the board
- Everyone gets one level-10 skill
- Everyone gets two level-8 skills
- Everyone takes one level-3 skill
- Everyone gets one favorite skill buff
- Everyone gets three competent skill buffs
Interesting set up. I do this ...
- Everyone starts with level-5 skills across the board
- Add or subtract points based on Traits and/or Background
- If a skill would be less than 0 they still get 0
- All skills over 5 get 1 "fire"
- The highest skill gets 2 "fire"
- If more than one highest skills are the same they all get 2 "fire"
- If it fits better to have a lower skill as 2 "fire" then you can give up all highest skills for that skill instead. But the skill must be over 5.
Im just wondering if its possible to assign points values to the traits, otherwise there is no incentive to use bad traits with the points based system except for flavour. Eg. beautiful should be 100 points, pretty 50 points, ugly -50 and staggeringly ugly -100.
Is there some technical barrier to this? if not i would like to see it implemented.
Quote from: just-a-bird on January 17, 2017, 03:56:10 PM
Hi, I keep getting a bug every so often where I start a new game and my pawns never spawn. I originally posted about it (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=24648.msg300466#msg300466) in the Psychology mod's thread, because I thought it was a conflict, but according to the author it seems to be a problem internal to Prepare Carefully.
im having the same problem as you are, everytime i start the mission where the pods starts dropping some of my colony members start randomly disappears or should i say they pop like a balloon and disappears, im using a customized 10people in my colony. and i already tried retrying and retrying but the problem still persists lol. using RimWorld A16 and the latest mod version.
Quote from: Hydromancerx on February 19, 2017, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: AngleWyrm on February 19, 2017, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: Dragoon on February 18, 2017, 10:02:39 AM
I'm confused you can't use points? Or can't control yourself?
When using Prepare Carefully I like to give myself purchase costs to make it entertaining. So I made some rules for my starting team:
- Everyone starts with level-5 skills across the board
- Everyone gets one level-10 skill
- Everyone gets two level-8 skills
- Everyone takes one level-3 skill
- Everyone gets one favorite skill buff
- Everyone gets three competent skill buffs
Interesting set up. I do this ...
- Everyone starts with level-5 skills across the board
- Add or subtract points based on Traits and/or Background
- If a skill would be less than 0 they still get 0
- All skills over 5 get 1 "fire"
- The highest skill gets 2 "fire"
- If more than one highest skills are the same they all get 2 "fire"
- If it fits better to have a lower skill as 2 "fire" then you can give up all highest skills for that skill instead. But the skill must be over 5.
Well, my rules are these:
Clear everything. Extrapoints and passions.
Set childhood and adulthood backstories.
Add skill points based on age. (Not the age that goes upto 1000, the other one!)
Example I have a 25 years old lad, I distribute 25 free points in his skill board. Then I give double fire to his highest and single fire to whatever is 2nd highest.
Quote from: afairris on February 02, 2017, 06:28:23 PM
Hi EdB!
I'm sorry about this, Every time I try to load the mod, I get a big list of XML exceptions and the game won't run. I'm running A16, a fresh download of the mod from drop box and it's running on a Mac. This happens with several different mods, but not all, and the one I'm most interested in is yours.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Could I get a hand? Also, my player.log file is too large to attach. Is there another way for me to attach it or get it to you?
Same here. De-installed my steamversion, deleted any left-overs, re-installed,
downloaded the latest EDB Prepare Carefully version and each time i press the
"prepare carefully" button, i get errors about RW not being able to create the EDB PC-menus.
I can press "OK" and play the game normally, but that's it.
Meaning, in my view at least, Rimporld is again unplayable with
that ridicoulus randomized system. Such should not be in a proclaimed
Colony "Simulator" as in a simulation one -should- be able to define
quite precisely what things/people/properties are present.
Additionally, no posts from EDB since 2 full months!
So... is this mod dead perhaps?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19BXvPB7_jC0IYXsJAEBt-FgcpDzW2s91dCCPKFBxYUo/edit?usp=sharing
In case anyone wants a table of the backstories in Prepare Carefully, I made this. I was tired of wanting to make "the best cook/constructor/whatever" combination and having to look through the 500+ backstories just to get an okay version. This makes it so you can optimize however you like.
Suggestion
A filter button in the backstory pickers that filters by faction eligibility.
If I'm making a crash-landing of 3 guys from space, I'd like to filter out all those tribal medieval knight backstories. Or maybe I'd like to create a Healer/Rogue/Mage and don't need to hear about space mining.
Hello, I'm from Czech Republic, so sorry for the grammar. I wanted to ask. Can I put a saved colonist into an existing game? If I can, how? Thanks for answer.
Just a quick heads up... Tynan has said that the "Incapable of... Scary" will be removed from A17 as it no longer has meaning.
Source : https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=31508.0
Quote from: Simstu on March 31, 2017, 01:14:49 PM
Hello, I'm from Czech Republic, so sorry for the grammar. I wanted to ask. Can I put a saved colonist into an existing game? If I can, how? Thanks for answer.
you can`t, sorry
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/23/fe/28/23fe28e90723b88729b3b0abfd3bba00.jpg) | Quote from: Simstu on March 31, 2017, 01:14:49 PM
Can I put a saved colonist into an existing game? If I can, how?
You can do something similar with Rainbeau's (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=68849) Editable Backstories (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=30749.0) mod. With it you can define a character name, childhood and adulthood backstories as a package deal.
Then you might meet the person you created, and they will have all the skill buffs and nerfs, and all the work prerequisites and disables, and all the traits that you gave them with their backstories. |
Just a quick mod update: I got motivated, and I'm working on a new version of the mod to try to address some of the most frequently asked questions and requested features.
Some of things that I'm going to do:
- Reorganize the user interface
- Remove the limit on the number of colonists.
- Enable the naming of pets and choosing which colonists to bond them to.
- Fix problems when spawning very large numbers of resources and equipment.
- Fix problems when creating lots of relationships.
- Other bug fixes.
Some of the things that I'm looking at, but I'm not sure if I can do them yet:
- Trying to add the ability to add characters from other factions to the colony (to better support humanoid alien mods)
- Looking at how feasible it would be to customize characters in other factions or customize the characters that will later join your colony, i.e. customize a pawn and add it to one of the pirate factions with the hope that they will show up in a raid later. I think this one is pretty unlikely, but I see this request a lot, so I'm looking into it.
- More filtering options available on the equipment screen: filter by material, search, etc.
- Choose the quality of apparel and furniture
- Evaluating the impact of allowing more than 3 colonist traits (allow just 4 since that vanilla UI supports that many, or no limit to how many--even though you won't be able to see them in the vanilla UI. I don't really want to make changes to the vanilla gameplay UI).
- Better support for mods that add visual layers to pawn (i.e. the Facial Stuff mod). There isn't an easy way to support these types of mods without writing code specific for each of them, but I'm evaluating how much effort it would be to do so.
Things that I've ruled out and am not going to add. These are requested frequently, but I'm not going to do them:
- The ability to customize characters during gameplay, i.e. a cheat interface that you can bring up once the game has started.
- The ability to load saved characters once gameplay has started.
Below is a preview of the new user interface. The biggest difference is that the character list is no longer a set of tabs at the top of the page, but is now a scrolling list on the right. The character name tabs really didn't work once you got to more than about 10 colonists. The tabs at the top are now used to switch between the different customization screens (there are two new customization screens). It's different, and it will probably take some getting used to if you're a long-time user of the mod, but I'm liking it better than the old UI.
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b636/edbmods/pc-2_zpsmzzza4um.jpg)
There's lots of work to do, so it definitely won't be ready until when alpha 17 is released--and maybe later if alpha 17 ends up arriving soon.
(https://s6.postimg.org/3q95o240h/party.jpg) | Looks great!
This is one of my must-have mods (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=31268.msg320468#msg320468).
Suggestion
When looking up backstories, the current system either displays or doesn't display them according to meeting the various prerequisites. Appropriate, but figuring out why a given story doesn't appear, or what it takes to make it appear is daunting from the player's perspective.
Is it do-able to have all stories appear but be greyed out when unavailable, with a tool-tip indicating why?
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Yes this is an allways must have mod, no new colony without one !
And i think the "Use point limits" should be on by default, or some new player think that many points are normal for new colonies.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e3/e9/52/e3e952e39b47e5a668b755e6f6451a42.jpg) | Quote from: Canute on April 18, 2017, 02:52:01 AM
And i think the "Use point limits" should be on by default, or some new player think that many points are normal for new colonies.
The points system is an interesting measure of colony start. With five tribals I get around 20k, and with a custom scenario of five industrials that was 40k someone declared "OP" to the starting provisions. So that looks like a range of about 4k~8k points/colonist.
I like to impose skill-point and passion purchase costs on myself to make skill selection more interesting. My starting team gets- skill-5 across the board
- A primary skill at skill-10
- Two secondary skills at skill-8
- A disinterested skill at skill-3
- One burning passion
- Three passions
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Quote from: AngleWyrm on April 18, 2017, 01:39:59 AM
the current system either displays or doesn't display them according to meeting the various prerequisites.
This is not the intent. It should be showing all of the backstories. Can you give me an example of a backstory that is not appearing in the list? I have not looked at the details of how backstories are assigned to randomly generated characters, but I believe it limits which ones are chosen based on the backstory categories defined in a faction's XML definition file. The mod doesn't look at these categories at all right now; it just grabs the entire list of backstories from the vanilla game's "backstory database".
Will the new version display the stats of apparel? Like how much social or accuracy it boosts or adds a penalty too?
Hey
Will there be an A17 Update?
Quote from: Rapthor on May 05, 2017, 10:21:51 AM
Hey
Will there be an A17 Update?
lol yes
literally look up ahead it's on the same page lol. Always jump to the end at least to see fi anyone has asked or there is any news. XD
hey will you make a17 for this mod :D
Update it, please. :)
Recently I've been running into an odd behavior that I'm guessing is a memory issue during neolithic tribal starts.
When I go to load a pre-existing set of colonists (not a single but a group) a message pops up complaining that it failed to load and that I should make sure all appropriate mods are loaded. This doesn't always happen but it has happened with some regularity, maybe 1 in 5 starts.
Tonight I did something different: When I arrived at the main prepare carefully screen and attempted to load my defined starting set it failed. But then I deleted two of the five colonists on screen and then tried loading my preset group of five and it worked.
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I love this mod so much!
Great Mod, Can't wait to jump into A17 with this!
I was considering contributing some changes to help with the mod, but it looks like all the work you've done on the previous page hasn't been pushed to the github repo. Did you want it to remain separate for now?
Thank you so much for this!
I've released a test version for Alpha 17. There are probably a lot of bugs, but if you want to help me find them, please give it try--let me know what I broke!
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
Please read the notes on the GitHub download page before installing.
(https://s6.postimg.org/a4ug31j2p/bugreport.png)
Thanks for updating it to A17! Awesome UI too. It's worth the wait.
Quote from: AngleWyrm on May 19, 2017, 12:32:33 AM
(https://s6.postimg.org/a4ug31j2p/bugreport.png)
You got that error when? When you click on the "Prepare Carefully" button? Or just when you land on the "Create characters" page? It looks like you're on 0.17.1527. The mod was built against 0.17.1542--not sure if that will make a difference.
Are you using other mods? Are you on Windows or another OS?
A keyed named "EdB.PC.Panel.Health.Error.MustSelectOption" is not valid.maybe it was written to "EdB.PC.Panel.Health.ErrorMustSelectOption"
Thanks, the new version is awesome!
One small bug I found: when I tried to overwrite the preset I had from prior version, it just made a new preset save instead.
One small UX issue: I had to click on the increment chronological age button over 900 times to get it to the age I wanted for a particular pawn (closer to physical age)
Also cloth clothes cost more points than synthread clothes equipped on the starting colonists. Not sure why.
Quote from: EdB on May 19, 2017, 12:58:01 AM
You got that error when? When you click on the "Prepare Carefully" button?
Yes, it came up when I clicked on the
prepare carefully button. The only other mods active at the time were hugslib and vegetable garden.
Quote from: YokoZar link=topic=6261.msg333117#msg333117
One small UX issue: I had to click on the increment chronological age button over 900 times to get it to the age I wanted for a particular pawn (closer to physical age)
Non-intuitive, but click on the number, and slowly drag left or right to quickly change the age. It mirrors the old behavior from the trading menu.
Hello, i am french sorry google translation. When I want to customize my settlers with your mod this does not work. I send you the bug report in attachment
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Quote from: Michael27140 on May 19, 2017, 12:32:56 PM
Hello, i am french sorry google translation. When I want to customize my settlers with your mod this does not work. I send you the bug report in attachment
Yep, I have the same problem. It's like I were using the A16 version, nothing happens when you click in "Prepare Carefully".
Quote from: grrizo on May 19, 2017, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: Michael27140 on May 19, 2017, 12:32:56 PM
Hello, i am french sorry google translation. When I want to customize my settlers with your mod this does not work. I send you the bug report in attachment
Yep, I have the same problem. It's like I were using the A16 version, nothing happens when you click in "Prepare Carefully".
Thanks for the log file. That helped. Be sure that you're running the latest Alpha 17 release: version 0.17.1542 or later. There actually was a change recently that I think is causing this issue.
I have this version RimWorld Alpha 17.v0.17.1529 no steam
Quote from: Michael27140 on May 19, 2017, 03:21:57 PM
I have this version RimWorld Alpha 17.v0.17.1529 no steam
That version is roughly 2 weeks old. Current being 1542 at the end. Tynan has stated that number increments by one every day. So about 13 days old. Make sure your Steam is online so that it will update.
Quote from: YokoZar on May 19, 2017, 05:16:50 AM
Thanks, the new version is awesome!
One small bug I found: when I tried to overwrite the preset I had from prior version, it just made a new preset save instead.
One small UX issue: I had to click on the increment chronological age button over 900 times to get it to the age I wanted for a particular pawn (closer to physical age)
Also cloth clothes cost more points than synthread clothes equipped on the starting colonists. Not sure why.
Thanks for the bug reports.
I've release a new version, 0.17.0.3. It fixes the save overwrite bug and a few of the translation errors that were reported. It also adds the ability to type in the values when editing age and choosing equipment counts. You can still click-and-drag, but the click-and-drag UI has long been a point of confusion, since it was never obvious that you could do that. The new option should make it easier. Just click on the field to make it editable.
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
I'll need to look at the synthread point cost issue. The mod gives a discount to synthread on your starting colonists, but I probably need to extend that discount to lower-value materials as well to avoid cloth ending up more expensive.
Known issues:
- Colonists with the "Wimp" trait are ending up downed by the pain associated with old scars. I need to figure out how to stop that from happening.
Hey!
I tried to make your mod work with A17, but nothing pops up when I click the button and I keep getting this error:
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.ResetCachedIncapableOf () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.InitializeWithPawn (Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn..ctor (Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.InitializePawns () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.Initialize () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.<DoWindowContents>b__8_2 () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.Page.DoBottomButtons (Rect rect, System.String nextLabel, System.String midLabel, System.Action midAct, Boolean showNext) [0x0015a] in C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\RimWorld\UI\Entry\Page.cs:94
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.DoWindowContents (Rect rect) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Window+<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C2.<>m__1B7 (Int32 x) [0x001ff] in C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:192
Verse.Log:Error(String) (at C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\Utility\Debug\Log\Log.cs:48)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C2:<>m__1B7(Int32) (at C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:196)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle) (at C:\buildslave\unity\build\Runtime\IMGUI\Managed\GUI.cs:1896)
Quote from: TacataX on May 20, 2017, 06:53:20 AM
I tried to make your mod work with A17, but nothing pops up when I click the button and I keep getting this error:
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.ResetCachedIncapableOf () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
...
You'll get this error if you're running an older version of alpha 17. You must be running at least version 0.17.1542. Updates are being released almost daily, so be sure that you're online in Steam and getting the latest on a regular basis.
I had a few colonists end up with interest in skills they were incapable of. Double check that a background change clears that.
Quote from: YokoZar on May 22, 2017, 03:32:53 AM
I had a few colonists end up with interest in skills they were incapable of. Double check that a background change clears that.
Thanks for the bug report. I will fix this.
I've posted a new release for Alpha 17, v0.17.0.4:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
It includes some bug fixes and adds the ability to randomly generate pawns from other factions to add to your list of starting colonists.
Please let me know if you find any bugs.
You're the best EdB!
A suggestion (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=32751.msg334530#msg334530) for further advancement of Prepare Carefully
Some traits are members of mutually exclusive sets, called spectrum traits, which typically serve as a sort of five-point range of trait strength. It's just that traits are uniquely identified by the pair of both their trait defName and an additional sub-type integer [-2..2]
It would be both informative and entertaining to present and enforce that grouping to the player. It would also help prevent the player from making invalid choices during character creation.
Maybe sorting the traits list so that such traits are displayed as bundled into groups, with the option to only select one out of each set.
Quote from: AngleWyrm on May 24, 2017, 04:27:45 AM
A suggestion (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=32751.msg334530#msg334530) for further advancement of Prepare Carefully
Some traits are members of mutually exclusive sets, called spectrum traits, which typically serve as a sort of five-point range of trait strength. It's just that traits are uniquely identified by the pair of both their trait defName and an additional sub-type integer [-2..2]
It would be both informative and entertaining to present and enforce that grouping to the player. It would also help prevent the player from making invalid choices during character creation.
Maybe sorting the traits list so that such traits are displayed as bundled into groups, with the option to only select one out of each set.
The alpha 17 version of the mod does now prevent you from selecting multiple spectrum traits in the same group. It also prevents you from selecting conflcting traits (brawler vs. careful shooter, for example).
I'm not sure about sorting based on those groupings. I like the idea of seeing them listed as a group, but with an alphabetical listing, you're always able to find a specific trait that you're looking for. If you grouped them in that way, you'd lose that ability to find a known trait quickly.
Deep fried awesome with sprinkles :)
Quote from: EdB on May 24, 2017, 12:13:44 PM
I'm not sure about sorting based on those groupings. I like the idea of seeing them listed as a group, but with an alphabetical listing, you're always able to find a specific trait that you're looking for. If you grouped them in that way, you'd lose that ability to find a known trait quickly.
Good point; would a search box fit into that scenario? Or maybe as an option like the way we can group the in-game inventory on the left side of the screen or set them to be ungrouped. Then both perspectives are available. There's also the cost/performance ratio in terms of what's fun to do vs work vs benefits.
Hey, EdB. I'm having a problem with Alien Race Framework 2.0 on Alpha 17, missing head graphic for Orassans and Leeani. Replaces with default head graphic, which is annoying, but not game-breaking. If you need logs, I'm happy to provide them, as well as talk to Erdelf (Alien Race mod author) for you. Thanks in advance!
Quote from: ethanajb on May 24, 2017, 08:28:08 PM
Hey, EdB. I'm having a problem with Alien Race Framework 2.0 on Alpha 17, missing head graphic for Orassans and Leeani. Replaces with default head graphic, which is annoying, but not game-breaking. If you need logs, I'm happy to provide them, as well as talk to Erdelf (Alien Race mod author) for you. Thanks in advance!
Yep. Working on it. I wasn't able to test the Alien Race Framework before it was released with Alpha 17 today, so I didn't see the problem sooner. I'll have a fix with the next version of the mod--which should be done pretty soon.
Hey edb I love your mod. This is literally the only mod which I recommend to my friends without reserve as a "must have." It is simply the best.
im literally refreshing steam waiting for the A17 version to be updated. :)
Quote from: fukngrvn on May 24, 2017, 10:46:50 PM
im literally refreshing steam waiting for the A17 version to be updated. :)
It's been updated! Please give it a try and let me know if you have any problems.
hi friend,
I've been playing the new alpha 17 with a few mods and I've recently added yours and I feel that I have come across a bug now I removed all other mods just to make sure that it wasn't a conflicting mod and it seems that it isn't.
The issue that I've come across is that when you save a pre-set colony and then try and re-load them later it doesn't seem to want to load them IE nothing happens when you hit load.
Sorry if this has already been reported but I feel that it could be a bit of an annoyance to quite a few people who prefer to keep a set group of people for there colony or who want to restart till they get a great map with a set group.
Thanks,
Matheryn
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.ResetCachedIncapableOf () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.InitializeWithPawn (Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn..ctor (Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PanelRelationshipsParentChild.CreateNewHiddenPawn (Gender gender) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PanelRelationshipsParentChild..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.TabViewRelationships..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_PrepareCarefully..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.<DoWindowContents>b__8_2 () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.Page.DoBottomButtons (Rect rect, System.String nextLabel, System.String midLabel, System.Action midAct, Boolean showNext) [0x0015a] in C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\RimWorld\UI\Entry\Page.cs:94
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.DoWindowContents (Rect rect) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Window+<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C2.<>m__1B7 (Int32 x) [0x001ff] in C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:192
Verse.Log:Error(String) (at C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\Utility\Debug\Log\Log.cs:48)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C2:<>m__1B7(Int32) (at C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:196)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle) (at C:\buildslave\unity\build\Runtime\IMGUI\Managed\GUI.cs:1896)
The mod don't work, i can't start prepare carefully
When i click on "prepare carefully" this message appears
Quote from: blaxblade on May 25, 2017, 05:17:49 AM
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.ResetCachedIncapableOf () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.InitializeWithPawn (Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in
...
The mod don't work, i can't start prepare carefully
When i click on "prepare carefully" this message appears
Are you sure you're playing with the latest version of Alpha 17? This was an error that people were seeing when they were playing with an older development release. You must be playing at least 0.17.1542, or you'll get this error.
Quote from: matheryn on May 25, 2017, 04:30:29 AM
hi friend,
I've been playing the new alpha 17 with a few mods and I've recently added yours and I feel that I have come across a bug now I removed all other mods just to make sure that it wasn't a conflicting mod and it seems that it isn't.
The issue that I've come across is that when you save a pre-set colony and then try and re-load them later it doesn't seem to want to load them IE nothing happens when you hit load.
Sorry if this has already been reported but I feel that it could be a bit of an annoyance to quite a few people who prefer to keep a set group of people for there colony or who want to restart till they get a great map with a set group.
Thanks,
Matheryn
Thanks for the bug report. At least one other person has reported this, but I can't seem to reproduce the problem. I'm able to save and load presets. You've disabled all other mods? Are you trying to load a preset that you just saved, or are you trying to load an older preset? Which operating system are you running: Windows, Mac, Linux? If you know how to look at the game's log file or bring up the development console, any error messages listed there would be helpful.
Thanks
It says that prepare carefully isn't formatting. Does anyone know a fix for this?
(I have turned it on in the mods section)
Quote from: bankyboy1126 on May 25, 2017, 07:19:37 PM
It says that prepare carefully isn't formatting. Does anyone know a fix for this?
(I have turned it on in the mods section)
Take a look at the Frequently Asked Questions section in the original post. If you're getting an error that says that the mod "has incorrectly formatted target version 'Unknown'", it explains how to fix it.
If I set any type of relationship, I can't save or load the preset. Saves and loads as long as relationships are empty.
Quote from: notfood on May 25, 2017, 08:55:11 PM
If I set any type of relationship, I can't save or load the preset. Saves and loads as long as relationships are empty.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm trying to track down what's wrong with presets--a lot of people are having trouble with them, but I can't seem to reproduce the issue. Are you creating parent/child relationships, other relationships, or both?
Quote from: EdB on May 25, 2017, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: matheryn on May 25, 2017, 04:30:29 AM
hi friend,
I've been playing the new alpha 17 with a few mods and I've recently added yours and I feel that I have come across a bug now I removed all other mods just to make sure that it wasn't a conflicting mod and it seems that it isn't.
The issue that I've come across is that when you save a pre-set colony and then try and re-load them later it doesn't seem to want to load them IE nothing happens when you hit load.
Sorry if this has already been reported but I feel that it could be a bit of an annoyance to quite a few people who prefer to keep a set group of people for there colony or who want to restart till they get a great map with a set group.
Thanks,
Matheryn
Thanks for the bug report. At least one other person has reported this, but I can't seem to reproduce the problem. I'm able to save and load presets. You've disabled all other mods? Are you trying to load a preset that you just saved, or are you trying to load an older preset? Which operating system are you running: Windows, Mac, Linux? If you know how to look at the game's log file or bring up the development console, any error messages listed there would be helpful.
I'm running on windows 10 and yes ive disabled all other mods. loading old a16 presets seems to work but the ones I save in a17 arnt working I haven't tried taking out all the relationships yet as a previous poster mentioned so I don't know if that may also be the problem. haven't tried the dev console yet will look into that and report if I find anything
BTW thankyou for this mod it is awesome and very much what needs to be intergrated into vanilla I couldn't live without it so you have done a great job
Quote from: EdB on May 26, 2017, 12:04:35 AM
Thanks for the feedback. I'm trying to track down what's wrong with presets--a lot of people are having trouble with them, but I can't seem to reproduce the issue. Are you creating parent/child relationships, other relationships, or both?
Seems hard to reproduce as well. I could reproduce it with these two I saved into the character pool. I could get through and save it after I remade those characters from scratch, unfortunately I rewrote the characters, I don't have the xmls anymore.
I've released a new version, v0.17.1.3 that fixes the problem with presets and fixes a compatibility issue with the Cosmic Horrors mod.
Thanks everyone here who provided feedback and information about the preset bug. It looks like it only happened if you loaded a saved Alpha 16 character and then added that character to a relationship and then saved a preset. This resulted in a broken preset file that could not be loaded. Unfortunately, those preset files remain mostly broken--you can load them, and they should have all of your characters intact, but they will be missing relationships and all equipment. Apologies for the inconvenience.
I'm also getting the problem of not being able to load my preset colonists that I make with this version, Strangely I can load colonists I made in the previous version. But any I make in this version, or if I re-save the old colonists and then try to load them again it fails.
Quote from: AusDave on May 27, 2017, 06:58:37 AM
I'm also getting the problem of not being able to load my preset colonists that I make with this version, Strangely I can load colonists I made in the previous version. But any I make in this version, or if I re-save the old colonists and then try to load them again it fails.
Be sure that you're running the most recent version, v0.17.1.3. The preset problem should be fixed in that version.
Quote from: EdB on May 26, 2017, 07:56:46 PM
I've released a new version, v0.17.1.3 that fixes the problem with presets and fixes a compatibility issue with the Cosmic Horrors mod.
Thanks everyone here who provided feedback and information about the preset bug. It looks like it only happened if you loaded a saved Alpha 16 character and then added that character to a relationship and then saved a preset. This resulted in a broken preset file that could not be loaded. Unfortunately, those preset files remain mostly broken--you can load them, and they should have all of your characters intact, but they will be missing relationships and all equipment. Apologies for the inconvenience.
First of All thanks for your work and this awesome mod
After running some tests looks like its all fixed and working with Cosmic Horror mod. The prepare carefully button, save presets and tabs are good. ;D
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.ResetCachedIncapableOf () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.InitializeWithPawn (Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn..ctor (Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.InitializePawns () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.Initialize () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.<DoWindowContents>b__8_2 () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.Page.DoBottomButtons (Rect rect, System.String nextLabel, System.String midLabel, System.Action midAct, Boolean showNext) [0x0015a] in C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\RimWorld\UI\Entry\Page.cs:94
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.DoWindowContents (Rect rect) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Window+<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C1.<>m__1B3 (Int32 x) [0x001ff] in C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:192
Verse.Log:Error(String) (at C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\Utility\Debug\Log\Log.cs:48)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C1:<>m__1B3(Int32) (at C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:196)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle) (at C:\buildslave\unity\build\Runtime\IMGUI\Managed\GUI.cs:1896)
Upseting, but if you could help, i really dislike having to Roll for a decent charchter Ugh, anyway any help would be appreciated,
Running windows
Running Alpha 17.1529
Quote from: Windy__tiger on May 27, 2017, 10:22:51 PM
Upseting, but if you could help, i really dislike having to Roll for a decent charchter Ugh, anyway any help would be appreciated,
Running windows
Running Alpha 17.1529
You need to be running the latest version of Alpha 17, which is 17.1546. There was a change in-between the version that you've got and the most recent version that's causing that error.
That speedy reply doe,
Thanks man i forgot i disabled updates so i could watch youtube my bad, Thanks again, have a good day/night
-Kind regards
Windy__tiger
Oh man - I was just setting up the modfest for A17, & obviously (if your ego needs anymore puffing up) your creation here was one of the top to get.
All I want to say though, is that the extra tab on the left? Add Character? That even allows me to pick a load-out from an existing faction? Sweet Niblets! Stellar Job! Truly!
Apologies if this isn't the place to say thanks, but you just re-invented Bread for me, so felt compelled to let you know how awesome your work is!
ooooouuuuuuuuwwwwwwwwuuuuuuuuuuooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuu *wolf howling*
Hello community and greetings from Vienna/austria ^^
first of all ... EdB? i wanna say thank you
thank you for this mod und especially for not giving it up, prepare carefully is in my opinion one of the most importand mods of all ^^
now i have a suggestion for the animals
as a animal loving person a animal is every time a fully part of my family. so i found it strange evertime i start a new world in rimworld or making a new preset. now i don't understand anything about modmaking and programming but i don't thinmk it's a big deal. can you add a new tab to your preset screen, for animals, so i could customized them, insteed of add a new animal as a peace of equipment?
right now we have a tab for charakters, a tab for relations and a tab for equipment. in the animals tab, i would suggest, you can change the name of an animal, the health - like in the charakterstab, how old the animal is, the gender, of course what kind of animal it is, and if there is a bond with one of the colonists
what do you think EdB? are yo interested in this idea? ^^
The prepare carefully button isn't working for me.
Quote from: Wild_Wolve on May 30, 2017, 10:43:03 PM
right now we have a tab for charakters, a tab for relations and a tab for equipment. in the animals tab, i would suggest, you can change the name of an animal, the health - like in the charakterstab, how old the animal is, the gender, of course what kind of animal it is, and if there is a bond with one of the colonists
what do you think EdB? are yo interested in this idea? ^^
I started working on exactly what you're describing (a "Pets" tab) as part of all of the Alpha 17 changes that were made to the mod. I ran into a couple of complications that made it more time-consuming than I expected, and I had to set it aside to get everything else done in time for the release. I may come back to it, but I'm not sure when.
I'm curious if this is a bug/related to my other mods?
If I use prepare carefully I can't read the info in the "Review Scenario" button in the escape menu. it just says "Cannot read data".
Quote from: DenVildeHest on May 31, 2017, 03:29:10 PM
I'm curious if this is a bug/related to my other mods?
If I use prepare carefully I can't read the info in the "Review Scenario" button in the escape menu. it just says "Cannot read data".
Yes, looks like that's a bug in Prepare Carefully. Thanks for reporting it--I don't think I would have ever noticed it otherwise!
Hey EdB,
I`ve the same problem like Armorpiercing125
Quote from: Armorpiercing125 on May 31, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
The prepare carefully button isn't working for me.
When i click on prepare Button it makes the click animation but nothing happens.
Btw thank you so much for your time and your Mod.
Quote from: Kruxer on June 01, 2017, 10:14:31 AM
Hey EdB,
I`ve the same problem like Armorpiercing125
Quote from: Armorpiercing125 on May 31, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
The prepare carefully button isn't working for me.
When i click on prepare Button it makes the click animation but nothing happens.
This is generally caused by some kind of mod conflict. If you know how to enable development mode and look at the debug console, it often displays errors that might give you a hint as why the mod is failing. Unfortunately, that's sometimes not enough, and it can be difficult to figure out which mod is causing the conflicts. If you have time to narrow it down by enabling/disabling mods to see if the error still happens, that can lead you to the problem mod.
Once we've identified the problem mod, then I can test it out and figure out how to fix, if possible.
I released a new version of the mod, v0.17.1.4 that has important fixes for a handful of issues that were in the previous release. Changes include:
- Added much better compatibility with alien races mods.
- Bug fix: Better filtering of invalid factions and pawn kinds to avoid errors when adding a character from a different faction.
- Bug fix: The randomize options now take into account a character's faction.
- Bug fix: Updated preset file format so that sibling-only parent/child groups are no longer lost when saving a preset.
- Bug fix: Removed the save-game dependency created by customized scenario parts.
- Bug fix: Fixed the "Review Scenario" button in the gameplay menu.
- Bug fix: Sibling and some other relationships are no longer lost when saving a game.
I deactivated all mods just to run this.
The following is the bug report, but i shortened it, there have been some more in the list of "at EdB...etc"
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.ResetCachedIncapableOf () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.InitializeWithPawn (Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Kruxer, you are aware that Edb just released a new version before your post ? Do you use these version or an older one ?
@EdBL; Just posting to tell you how awesome your mod is and that I love the new menu.
Quote from: Kruxer on June 02, 2017, 04:30:59 AM
I deactivated all mods just to run this.
The following is the bug report, but i shortened it, there have been some more in the list of "at EdB...etc"
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.ResetCachedIncapableOf () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.InitializeWithPawn (Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Please double-check which version of RimWorld that you're running. If you are running an early version of the Alpha 17 release (pre 0.17.1542), you will get this error. Be sure that you're running the latest (currently 0.17.1546).
I released a new version of the mod, v0.17.1.5 that has fixes for a handful of issues that were in the previous release. Changes include:
- Can now choose from both player and non-player factions when creating a new faction pawn.
- Bug fix: Hidden pawns are not killed if they have already been added into the world.
- Bug fix: Apparel generated for faction pawns is now also set to normal quality with no damage.
- Bug fix: Fixed skill name labels so that they are localized properly.
When i click the prepare carefully button nothing happens. (i have no other mods loaded)
Quote from: MintyFr3sh on June 03, 2017, 11:06:19 PM
When i click the prepare carefully button nothing happens. (i have no other mods loaded)
Please double-check which version of RimWorld that you're running. If you are running an early version of the Alpha 17 release (pre 0.17.1542), you will get this error. Be sure that you're running the latest (currently 0.17.1557).
EdB, you know stuff, is it possible -at all- to make a mod that works like prepare carefully,
but for the planetscreen? As an example:
1. click "select random site"
2. there is a button in the shape of a lock at the front of "terrain" in the terrain info window.
3. click that lock to enable it
4. click "select random site" again and now ONLY sites with the terrain you have locked are selected.
Same for all other "values" in that info window, but i personally would be most interested in Biome and Terrain.
I think, the game needs such a feature just as much as it is unplayable without Prepare Carefully.
Why not a world tile editor for the tile you want settle.
You can edit
- terrain type
- hill/mountain size
- temp range
but not roads and rivers.
At this way you can create an ice shelf at the middle of a desert, but who cares its rimworld all is possible. Thats an ancient ruin on a big sea that draw all the heat.
Quote from: EdB on June 01, 2017, 10:09:27 PM
I released a new version of the mod, v0.17.1.4 that has important fixes for a handful of issues that were in the previous release. Changes include:
- Bug fix: Sibling and some other relationships are no longer lost when saving a game.
That would explain why 2 years into the colony I haven't seen a single relative of my starting character...
I assume the fix only works on new games?
Quote from: EdB on June 04, 2017, 02:14:05 AM
Quote from: MintyFr3sh on June 03, 2017, 11:06:19 PM
When i click the prepare carefully button nothing happens. (i have no other mods loaded)
Please double-check which version of RimWorld that you're running. If you are running an early version of the Alpha 17 release (pre 0.17.1542), you will get this error. Be sure that you're running the latest (currently 0.17.1557).
i had the same problem but only it scenarios i made in alpha 16, maybe try using the default one?
Quote from: Raf's on June 04, 2017, 08:16:11 AM
Quote from: EdB on June 04, 2017, 02:14:05 AM
Quote from: MintyFr3sh on June 03, 2017, 11:06:19 PM
When i click the prepare carefully button nothing happens. (i have no other mods loaded)
Please double-check which version of RimWorld that you're running. If you are running an early version of the Alpha 17 release (pre 0.17.1542), you will get this error. Be sure that you're running the latest (currently 0.17.1557).
i had the same problem but only it scenarios i made in alpha 16, maybe try using the default one?
Thanks for the feedback--that's something I hadn't heard before. I'm probably not handling errors as well as I could if something goes wrong when copying over all of scenario parts into the Prepare Carefully screens. I will take a look.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but I really enjoyed the fact that you used the Rick and Morty family for your "relationships" example. ;D
A recent post (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=33410.msg341942#msg341942) was asking about the work priority tab, and if there was any way to avoid the repetitive typing that goes into it when using saved characters.
The data fields that define those priorities for each pawn are part of the save game record. It might be do-able to store that info with saved pawns and a tab for setting up their priorities.
Quote from: AngleWyrm on June 12, 2017, 11:33:55 AM
A recent post (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=33410.msg341942#msg341942) was asking about the work priority tab, and if there was any way to avoid the repetitive typing that goes into it when using saved characters.
The data fields that define those priorities for each pawn are part of the save game record. It might be do-able to store that info with saved pawns and a tab for setting up their priorities.
yes it might ..
I don't know if anyone else has noticed it (I did a quick search and couldn't find anything), but for some reason the points change when you reload a preset. http://imgur.com/a/vnQLS (http://imgur.com/a/vnQLS) notice how Jones is worth 1840 in the first picture and 1745 in the second. If this is a feature, I think it's pretty swell because if you use the point limit system, you are forced to make small changes to bring yourself up to 0 or you can have more items, and if its a bug, make it a feature ;D, though I think it would make more sense to change the max points and show the player that the maximum has changed.
It looks like there's a conflict between Prepare Carefully and Psychology. If I create a new colony and go into Prepare Carefully during the setup, all of the colonists are creates as asexual and aromantic, with Kinsey ratings of 0. If I don't go into Prepare Carefully during setup (even if it's in the mod list), the colonists don't get asexual or aromantic. I'm not 100% sure if the Kinsey rating is being effected or not. The only time I've seen it non-zero is when I haven't used Prepare Carefully, but it seems to be zero most of the time, so it might just be coincidence that I've always seen it as zero after using Prepare Carefully. But every time I've used Prepare Carefully, it has been zero, so it's distincly possible the Prepare Carefully is causing it to always be zero.
More details on my testing is in the Psychology thread at https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=34112.msg348525#msg348525
There are other reports of this issue in that thread, on the page before my post.
It looks like Psychology adds some fields to the pawns, which Prepare Carefully causes to get zeroed out.
Forgive me for not reading all 100 posts...
I'm trying to understand the interaction of Prepare Carefully and the vanilla Scenario editor.
It seems that some things are overwritten by PC, and some things are not. Is there logic to the priorities of what gets used from the scenario, and what gets used from Prepare Carefully? Example: I created a scenario and added 10x plasteel (scattered), and one charge rifle (start with). In PC > Equipment, I added one assault rifle. In the game, plasteel shows up, but charge rifle does not. It also appears that if the same resources are included in both the scenario editor and PC (example: 100 steel in scenario, 50 steel in PC), the PC AMOUNTS of that resource will override the scenario amounts -- 50 steel (not 100) will be generated on the map. Is this correct?
Same thing for animals/pets - added a wolf in scenario, removed pets from PC... result: no pets get generated.
Thanks for any info...
The scenario editor populates your currently selected stuff when starting a new game with that scenario.
So if I start a new game with a scenario that includes a couple pet forest fairies, then in Prepare Carefully my inventory will begin pre-filled with a couple of forest fairies. From there, I can then further edit my starting gear to whatever I please.
Let's say I decide I want two female forest fairies and one male forest fairy. So I make those changes and save the group, which can serve as a starting point for further adjustments when I load that group.
So later, if I start a new colony with my custom scenario, it will first begin with two fairies. If I then go on to load my previously saved group in Prepare Carefully then it will replace the people, relationships and gear with what I saved, and I'll be looking at my saved guys plus three forest fairies.
Forest fairies doesnt really match well from your account pic. ;D
What determines if pawns get a relation on generation? Do you have to assign a hidden person to allow it? I made two siblings without assigning parents and I noticed the debug info says they're dead, I assume because they're blood related they needed to have parents due to coding reasons but I also made a stand alone pawn with no relations and they didn't generate any, alive or dead.
So you must assign a hidden pawn for it to generate anything outside of parents for siblings specifically and those must be hidden if you want them to be alive correct? (Also possibly spouses when a pawn has an offspring)
I was wondering if there's a way to generate relations that are already dead, like have a pawn with dead parents, a dead spouse, and a dead child? (Quite tragic, I know)
One final thing that is more of a flavor text issue, I noticed there's no option to make indirect relations, like step or inlaws. I could have sworn I've seen inlaws before in vanilla however. If you haven't noticed I really like making an extensive family tree.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6d/0f/07/6d0f07fc0970654f48211c85231297cc.jpg) | Quote from: Mufflamingo on July 22, 2017, 09:05:08 PM
Forest fairies doesnt really match well from your account pic. ;D
That might depend on what I intend to do with them (https://www.loverslab.com/topic/81306-rimjobworld-rjw) (NSFW).
Let's just say they satisfy a need ;) |
Quote from: AngleWyrm on July 23, 2017, 02:44:39 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6d/0f/07/6d0f07fc0970654f48211c85231297cc.jpg) | Quote from: Mufflamingo on July 22, 2017, 09:05:08 PM
Forest fairies doesnt really match well from your account pic. ;D
That might depend on what I intend to do with them (https://www.loverslab.com/topic/81306-rimjobworld-rjw). |
You just made me go to a site that should not be named. :'(
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/58/75/da/5875da03dfd7d01f441700b4e2ea3611--anime-demon-manga-anime.jpg) | They have the courtesy of putting up a door that says 18+
so as not to disturb the local wildlife.
Wanna hanky? |
*sees stuff about skimpily clad fairies* what have i walked into
i just wanted to know why, when I moved my Rimworld folder (the whole thing) from one hard drive to another, it misplaced my presets. .___.
pls help, i need an adult
Quote from: animagus_kitty on July 29, 2017, 11:24:45 PM
*sees stuff about skimpily clad fairies* what have i walked into
i just wanted to know why, when I moved my Rimworld folder (the whole thing) from one hard drive to another, it misplaced my presets. .___.
pls help, i need an adult
could you be more specific which presets you mean ?
(https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/disney-fairies-movies/images/b/b4/IridessaPOSE.png/revision/latest?cb=20151229162426) | Quote from: animagus_kitty on July 29, 2017, 11:24:45 PM
i just wanted to know why, when I moved my Rimworld folder (the whole thing) from one hard drive to another, it misplaced my presets. Settings aren't stored in the Rimworld game folder or any of it's sub-folders. They are stored in a separate place. In-game you can go into options and press the "Open save data folder" to get there.
Win7+ "C:\Users\{YOUR_USERNAME}\AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld by Ludeon Studios"
WinXP: "C:\Documents and Settings\{YOUR_USERNAME}\Local Settings\Application Data\Ludeon Studios"
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That fixed it, thank you Angle
I cant add a colonist with a bite scar or missing limb (rib for instance). While in dev mode i can remove rib or ear or leg, i cannot give scar. Character currently generate with scars, but if you try to open the same character in Edb it will just give bite or cut, without the scar, abd when they spawn they will bleed from it.
Can you fix/edit this?
Hi guys, just dropping in for a quick question or two. Thanks in advance for your help.
So, I was playing with this mod a few months previously and there was a huge drawback to it that made me stop playing altogether. I really liked this mod and couldn't imagine playing without it and I would spend a long time perfectly crafting every character to be unique, immersive and balanced. Yet when I would load into the game, all of the traits and so forth would be randomized because apparently a lot of them are tied to race or other random elements. But because I have no way of knowing which things are tied to what, I'd be getting completely random and unknown things happening with my character when I start playing, which is worse than the default character creation because there at least I could reroll and know what I'm getting. Has there been any change or update to how this works? Any advice on how to make this less incredibly frustrating?
you can set literally everything, its all customisable. The only thing hardcoded are some of the names in some of the backstories.
You also can't edit starting inventory. Can be important if you add faction pawns.
Quote from: skullywag on August 07, 2017, 11:29:12 AM
you can set literally everything, its all customisable. The only thing hardcoded are some of the names in some of the backstories.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I don't have problems setting or customizing anything. Character creation works perfectly. But when I load into the game, there's a good chance that my character attributes will be randomized because many of those attributes are incompatible with each other (for various reasons, many of them race-related, which are not evident at all when creating the character) and so replacements are chosen randomly. Which means I will make a healer character with a healer backstory and vocation as well as appropriate stats and yet when I start the game, those elements will be rerolled, often leaving me with a character that has conflicting attributes, such as a high healing stat but traits and so forth that render that character incapable of healing.
I have had this discussion on this forum before about this mod, several alphas ago and it was a known issue that apparently didn't bother anyone else.
Finally no playing with dev menu to make things as I wish. Perfect for complex stories around the colony.
I've run into a problem. I'm playing with Misc MAI, the android mod. the problem is that when I set more than three colonists the next one becomes a MAI. As in, I have 4 people made, but one of them, the same person each time, turns into a MAI as soon as they exit the escape pod. Their picture at the top even shows them as them before they land, but it changes as soon as it opens.
The person suffering the robotification also isnt the fourth person, she was one of the original three. It seems its only her, because I dont run into the problem when I delete her and add a different person.
Sorry if my question is repetitive or if this was already asked. Thanks in advance.
Update: It seems no matter what I do, one of them is always turning into MAI.
I tried to make two paws brother but for some reason, it did not work. I set them both up with a hidden parent, but it still just says, friend.
Quote from: BeoTea on August 19, 2017, 09:17:43 AM
I've run into a problem. I'm playing with Misc MAI, the android mod. the problem is that when I set more than three colonists the next one becomes a MAI. As in, I have 4 people made, but one of them, the same person each time, turns into a MAI as soon as they exit the escape pod. Their picture at the top even shows them as them before they land, but it changes as soon as it opens.
The person suffering the robotification also isnt the fourth person, she was one of the original three. It seems its only her, because I dont run into the problem when I delete her and add a different person.
Sorry if my question is repetitive or if this was already asked. Thanks in advance.
Update: It seems no matter what I do, one of them is always turning into MAI.
Im also having this issue. I am trying to play an RP game of sorts and i have made 6 people and 3 of them always end up as MAI. I dunno why this is happening ...
Im also having these issues when trying to save created pawns in prepare careful:
Prepare Carefully could not find the pawn kind definition for the saved character: "AIPawn"
Verse.Log:Warning(String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.PresetLoaderVersion3:LoadPawn_Patch1(Object, SaveRecordPawnV3)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.ColonistLoaderVersion3:Load(PrepareCarefully, String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.ColonistLoader:LoadFromFile(PrepareCarefully, String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.ControllerPawns:LoadCharacter(String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.PanelLoadSave:<DrawPanelContent>b__12_0(String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_LoadColonist:DoMapEntryInteraction(String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Colonist:DoWindowContents(Rect)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4:<>m__1B1(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
and this
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_LoadColonist: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Psychology.Harmony.Optional.PresetLoaderPatch.AddPsyche (EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn&,EdB.PrepareCarefully.SaveRecordPawnV3) <0x0005c>
at (wrapper dynamic-method) EdB.PrepareCarefully.PresetLoaderVersion3.LoadPawn_Patch1 (object,EdB.PrepareCarefully.SaveRecordPawnV3) <0x014c3>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ColonistLoaderVersion3.Load (EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully,string) <0x00371>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ColonistLoader.LoadFromFile (EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully,string) <0x00124>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ControllerPawns.LoadCharacter (string) <0x0003e>
at (wrapper delegate-invoke) EdB.PrepareCarefully.PanelLoadSave/LoadCharacterHandler.invoke_void__this___string (string) <0x00067>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PanelLoadSave.<DrawPanelContent>b__12_0 (string) <0x00018>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_LoadColonist.DoMapEntryInteraction (string) <0x00018>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Colonist.DoWindowContents (UnityEngine.Rect) <0x00c1d>
at Verse.Window/<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4.<>m__1B1 (int) <0x00735>
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4:<>m__1B1(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
These happen only when i try to save the third character i create. I go into prepare carefully, create one character, save it, create a second character, save it, create a third character, try to save but the console pops up with the above errors. If i restart the game, it works for 2 characters and then the third bugs out again.
Then im getting this error when trying to start a new game:
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Confirm: System.Reflection.TargetException: Non-static field requires a target
at System.Reflection.MonoField.GetValue (System.Object obj) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Controller.ReplaceScenarioParts (RimWorld.Scenario actualScenario, RimWorld.Scenario vanillaFriendlyScenario) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Controller.PrepareGame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Controller.StartGame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_PrepareCarefully.<ShowStartConfirmation>b__26_0 () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Confirm.DoWindowContents (Rect inRect) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Window+<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4.<>m__1B1 (Int32 x) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4:<>m__1B1(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
Drew tabs without any being selected.
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.Log:ErrorOnce(String, Int32)
Verse.TabDrawer:DrawTabs(Rect, IEnumerable`1)
RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns:DoWindowContents_Patch1(Object, Rect)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4:<>m__1B1(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
These dont happen everytime but if I spend some time creating custom pawns, these errors start happening. If i start the game straight away without customizing much, it works.
Ive spent the past hour trying to figure out the various conflicts i seem to have between mods and so far ive found 1 conflict between Psychology and EDB Prepare Carefully.
With only those 2 mods enabled (and HugsLib ofc) I cant save characters creating with prepare carefully. I can save one but when i try to save subsequent characters im getting this error:
Called InitSaving() but current mode is Saving
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.ScribeSaver:InitSaving(String, String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.ColonistSaver:SaveToFile_Patch0(CustomPawn, String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.ControllerPawns:SaveCharacter(CustomPawn, String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.<>c__DisplayClass12_0:<DrawPanelContent>b__1(String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_SaveColonist:DoSpecialSaveLoadGUI(Rect)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Colonist:DoWindowContents(Rect)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4:<>m__1B1(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
Any ideas on how to fix this? I remember in A16 or something I was able to run psychology and prepare carefully without a problem ...what changed?
Quote from: code99xx on August 27, 2017, 02:31:02 AM
Im also having these issues when trying to save created pawns in prepare careful:
Prepare Carefully could not find the pawn kind definition for the saved character: "AIPawn"
Verse.Log:Warning(String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.PresetLoaderVersion3:LoadPawn_Patch1(Object, SaveRecordPawnV3)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.ColonistLoaderVersion3:Load(PrepareCarefully, String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.ColonistLoader:LoadFromFile(PrepareCarefully, String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.ControllerPawns:LoadCharacter(String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.PanelLoadSave:<DrawPanelContent>b__12_0(String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_LoadColonist:DoMapEntryInteraction(String)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Colonist:DoWindowContents(Rect)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4:<>m__1B1(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
and this
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_LoadColonist: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Psychology.Harmony.Optional.PresetLoaderPatch.AddPsyche (EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn&,EdB.PrepareCarefully.SaveRecordPawnV3) <0x0005c>
at (wrapper dynamic-method) EdB.PrepareCarefully.PresetLoaderVersion3.LoadPawn_Patch1 (object,EdB.PrepareCarefully.SaveRecordPawnV3) <0x014c3>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ColonistLoaderVersion3.Load (EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully,string) <0x00371>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ColonistLoader.LoadFromFile (EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully,string) <0x00124>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ControllerPawns.LoadCharacter (string) <0x0003e>
at (wrapper delegate-invoke) EdB.PrepareCarefully.PanelLoadSave/LoadCharacterHandler.invoke_void__this___string (string) <0x00067>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PanelLoadSave.<DrawPanelContent>b__12_0 (string) <0x00018>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_LoadColonist.DoMapEntryInteraction (string) <0x00018>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Colonist.DoWindowContents (UnityEngine.Rect) <0x00c1d>
at Verse.Window/<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4.<>m__1B1 (int) <0x00735>
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4:<>m__1B1(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
These happen only when i try to save the third character i create. I go into prepare carefully, create one character, save it, create a second character, save it, create a third character, try to save but the console pops up with the above errors. If i restart the game, it works for 2 characters and then the third bugs out again.
Then im getting this error when trying to start a new game:
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Confirm: System.Reflection.TargetException: Non-static field requires a target
at System.Reflection.MonoField.GetValue (System.Object obj) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Controller.ReplaceScenarioParts (RimWorld.Scenario actualScenario, RimWorld.Scenario vanillaFriendlyScenario) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Controller.PrepareGame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Controller.StartGame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Page_PrepareCarefully.<ShowStartConfirmation>b__26_0 () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Confirm.DoWindowContents (Rect inRect) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Window+<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4.<>m__1B1 (Int32 x) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4:<>m__1B1(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
Drew tabs without any being selected.
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.Log:ErrorOnce(String, Int32)
Verse.TabDrawer:DrawTabs(Rect, IEnumerable`1)
RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns:DoWindowContents_Patch1(Object, Rect)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey2C4:<>m__1B1(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
These dont happen everytime but if I spend some time creating custom pawns, these errors start happening. If i start the game straight away without customizing much, it works.
i have similar issues with it. i cant start a game when i saved a preset it seems.
luckily there is workaround. i need to recreate a new world and load my preset i saved earlier to get the game to start again. im using 180 mods though, i would be surprised if everything would work perfectly.
try out the workaround and lmk if it works for you.
EDIT:
you need to get to the main menu and start from there, otherwise it keeps throwing errors.
You might want to stop using photobucket, your main post looks horrible now with all the preview images as massive errors. :P
EDIT: I also didn't see steam version linked here.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=735106432
Thought I would throw out a warning to anyone using Psychology with this. If you alter their psyche you CANNOT save the character, or the preset, and trying will cause a glitch that will require a restart before loading anything at all. It seems to work fine otherwise, so if you want to save, just edit and save everything else, then just retweak the Psyche every time you load that preset/character. I wish there was a way to fix the glitched presets though. My fiance and I spent 2 hours creating our friends, then save/glitch/everything gone. :(
Don't know if any of you are having the same problem as me but for some reason most if not all modded hair options are not showing up for me unless I randomize a character. It was fine last night and I didn't change mod order or add mods.
I miss one thing: managing animals the same way, instead of acting like equipment. Then I must overlap it with dev menu ; (
Quote from: kubolek01 on October 01, 2017, 09:19:41 AM
I miss one thing: managing animals the same way, instead of acting like equipment. Then I must overlap it with dev menu ; (
Only because you want to start with Cyber-Wargs ?
But honestly, I have not thought about that possibility, sounds reasonable.
Giving Weapons or Equipment to the Pawns would also be a nice touch ( I guess, that has been mentioned before ::))
Quote from: SpaceDorf on October 01, 2017, 09:37:05 AM
Quote from: kubolek01 on October 01, 2017, 09:19:41 AM
I miss one thing: managing animals the same way, instead of acting like equipment. Then I must overlap it with dev menu ; (
Only because you want to start with Cyber-Wargs ?
But honestly, I have not thought about that possibility, sounds reasonable.
Giving Weapons or Equipment to the Pawns would also be a nice touch ( I guess, that has been mentioned before ::))
Better selfdestructing Thrumbalope. Due to hediffs.
HELP! Every time I use Prepare Carefully I finish selecting everything with the Point Limits turned on, I get done, hit the Red button to confirm, and nothing happens, I have to hit cancel then I get an error when I start the game and the game closes. I've tried Saving my Prepare Carefully profile, when I go back in a second time and load the profile after the error it shows I'm 1000s of points over the limit, so I adjust, save the profile again, and I get the same error, load it back up again and this time it shows I'm 500 points above the limit. I do this about 8x and eventually I can finally start a game. What am I doing wrong? Thanks.
For one, you don't need to use limits. Perhaps the limits stuff hasn't been tested lately?
I allways use the limit and it allways works.
But scenarios give random appearal to your pawn with different values.
And this can cause different point values.
But when oddible encounter errors, he should post an error log.
If you can a do shared log with the button or the output_log.txt as attachment from the data folder.
BTW this same problem happened to me on both my Win and Mac machines, and happened 10 months ago when I first started playing with Prepare Carefully and a couple other mods - I've since added a few more mods but again the problem happened with a much smaller log set as well.
Shared Log Link:
https://gist.github.com/51015cb79d44162b5a53e7fd0954a1e5
Yep, seem to only happen when I have limits turned on - which I want.
Screenshot of the error message: https://imgur.com/zhZNHBq.png
Can you try something.
Change your modorder
Core
Hugslib
EdB PC
And maybe just try a colony start with points enabled with this mods only.
If it works, then one of the other mods cause trouble.
This mods i use self without problems
Wildlife Tab: OmniLocator(1.0.0.0)
Set-Up Camp: Nandonalt_SetUpCamp(1.0.0.0)
[A17] Trading Spot: TradingSpot(1.0.0.0)
Medical Tab:
Stack Merger:
Tribal Essentials Modpack: TribalDefences(1.0.0.0), TribalJoy(1.0.0.0)
Dubs Hygiene and Central Heating: BadHygiene(1.0.0.0)
Expanded Prosthetics and Organ Engineering 2.0: (no assemblies)
Hand Me That Brick: HandMeThatBrick(2.2.17.0)
Allow Tool:
Hospitality:
A Dog Said...: (no assemblies)
Work Tab:
> Change your modorder
Worked great, thanks!
Thank you so much for this mod.
ITS A MUST HAVE this days.
Looking forward to see it on A18 before its released so we can share any problems and compatibility.
Mods take time and effort, they are incredibly appreciated.
Thank again for your work and dedication to make this game a bit more awesome. ;D
Quote from: Emottaja on September 22, 2014, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: Preacher on September 22, 2014, 07:40:23 AM
Is there a way you could possibly tell us how we can modify the maximum amount of points? I'm kind of clawing my eyes out in anger since I can't seem to re-create the firefly cast. I mean I'm trying to have Kaylee with high points in mining/construction, Mal is great socially, with his guns and melee. Zoe is good social, awesome with a gun and sort of good melee, River is great at many things, Simon is a good doctor/researcher, Jayne is really stupid in everything but shooting/melee.
It seems basically having all of them is impossible, unless I spawn with 0 resources and they all have the skillset of 0 for everything.
I agree. Maybe a secondary version with +5000 points?
I started a game with TTM mod and pressed the Prepare Carefully button, the randomly generated colonists were already worth so much that the points were at -3000... had to set all their stats to 0 in order to get any starting items. :-\
Otherwise, good job. Like it a lot. :D
Just turn off the point counter and it will allow you to go over. It should be a click/check box at the top of the window.
How long tell an A18 mod? I assume you are waiting tell the official release and not the unstable thats out now?
Quote from: la2rscout on October 30, 2017, 01:58:15 AM
How long tell an A18 mod? I assume you are waiting tell the official release and not the unstable thats out now?
A18 changed pawn creation and added new stuff along with a redesigned (and PCesque) window. It's probably not a quick port.
And Edb isn't active lately. Maybe he will update the mod when he recive the A18 release email.
Quote from: Canute on October 30, 2017, 06:49:05 PM
And Edb isn't active lately. Maybe he will update the mod when he recive the A18 release email.
Didn't EdB also move this project to github at some point just in case he doesn't keep updating, someone else can?
I know this is a must have mod for myself.
I may start poking around in the source code and see how much work it'll be to make this work for A18...
I agree, I wish I knew how to fix or update this because I agree it's definitely a required mod.
When you select a scenario all the extra pawns will show up in Prepare Carefully but only the number that's expected in the scenario will spawn. Crash-landing for example, only the top 3 pawns will be used when the game is started.
I am going to try contacting EdB and see if they are planning to update this. I'll continue to read through the code in the mean time. If they are not planning to get this updated I can see about taking it over.
EdB if you want me to take down the download let me know and I'll take it down immediately :)
Thank you so much for the extra effort.
EdB is a must this days, i hope they update it officially soon.
It would be appreciated by everyone. :D
I need this mod to even consider playing rimworld or checking out unstable versions at this point.
Making my own pawns is so addictive give me my fix ;(
Quote from: whitebunny on November 04, 2017, 04:36:22 AM
I need this mod to even consider playing rimworld or checking out unstable versions at this point.
Making my own pawns is so addictive give me my fix ;(
I
More details a few posts up...
Page roll over, i'll copy my previous post again:
When you select a scenario all the extra pawns will show up in Prepare Carefully but only the number that's expected in the scenario will spawn. Crash-landing for example, only the top 3 pawns will be used when the game is started.
I am going to try contacting EdB and see if they are planning to update this. I'll continue to read through the code in the mean time. If they are not planning to get this updated I can see about taking it over.
EdB if you want me to take down the download let me know and I'll take it down immediately :)
Thank you miqo'te wizard you're the best.
Paladin actually :P
Call me a newb to this, but why do negative traits cost points rather than credit them?
Because they are traits.
Basicly you can say there are no negative traits. Someone with a -20% workspeed trait will get more XP each resource. Ok maybe not 100% truth since i wouldn't know a good use for a pyromanic.
If you want extra points, give your pawn cyrosleep sickness and/or Malnutration.
Quote from: Canute on November 06, 2017, 04:20:20 AM
...i wouldn't know a good use for a pyromanic.
Arctic colonies! If the fire ever goes out, just have to wait for the maniac to go and set a new one ;D
Kiame, I tried the version you posted to see if it would work for me and sadly it does not I get this error when I try to use it, Any advice is appreciated:
Exception filling window for RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.MissingMethodException: Method not found: 'Verse.PawnGenerationRequest..ctor'.
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PawnGenerationRequestWrapper.get_Request () <IL 0x00001, 0x00015>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Randomizer.GenerateColonist () <IL 0x00000, 0x00036>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.RelationshipManager.ComputeInverseRelationship (RimWorld.PawnRelationDef) <IL 0x00001, 0x00031>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.RelationshipManager.PopulateInverseRelationships () <IL 0x0003d, 0x00099>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.RelationshipManager..ctor (System.Collections.Generic.List`1<Verse.Pawn>,System.Collections.Generic.List`1<EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn>) <IL 0x0007e, 0x0016b>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.InitializeRelationshipManager (System.Collections.Generic.List`1<EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn>) <IL 0x00057, 0x000ef>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.Initialize () <IL 0x00023, 0x00044>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.HarmonyPatches.DoWindowContentsPostfix (UnityEngine.Rect,RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns) <IL 0x0006c, 0x00171>
at (wrapper dynamic-method) RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.DoWindowContents_Patch1 (object,UnityEngine.Rect) <IL 0x000c3, 0x0052b>
at Verse.Window/<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0.<>m__0 (int) [0x00217] in C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:193
Verse.Log:Error(String) (at C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\Utility\Debug\Log\Log.cs:48)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0:<>m__0(Int32) (at C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:197)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle) (at C:\buildslave\unity\build\Runtime\IMGUI\Managed\GUI.cs:1817)
It looks like there's a problem with relationships... I've just tried with multiple relationships and it did work. I'm guessing it's a problem with a mod.
I've seen a post by the author in the steam messages so they're around and are planning to update this so i'm not planning to really support this, it's really just a hack to get it to work with the unstable builds in a very limited fashion.
Understandable, I just am pretty much clueless when it comes to it and didn't know (Or hoped) it was something easily fixable. Thanks anyway and thank you for the attempt at getting it to work.
Just curious, if you remove any relationships does it work then?
Hmmm not sure, I honestly hadn't even thought to check to see if there was any relationships between the 5 of them I'll have to try to start a new one and double check for that.
Nope, Sadly still no love. Started a new one and made sure none of them had any relationship to each other and still errors out. Could it possibly be that I chose to start with 5 instead of 3?
Hmm i did try w/ 5 on a crashlanding when i was initially testing and noticed only 3 landed. I did also try a tribal start whch worked as well.
I am perplexed :o
The most important part of Prepare Carefully is the ability to modify and save each character/preset. The number of starting colonists can be set in custom scenarios, meaning it isn't mod breaking. Don't get me wrong, I would love it to work, but for the time being I'm not picky.
Pure speculation is that when making the colonists, it shows a list of 8 or something in A18, but only the first 3 will go. When the game starts, I suspect all the colonists are in one list and then it takes X colonists from the start and make them land where X is a number read from the active scenario file. This means if you add more to the list, they end up being in the list of non-landing colonists. Sounds like it shouldn't be that hard to fix and it's likely inserting/replacing one instruction in Harmony Transpillar. The big question is where the code to control this is located. Also since I haven't actually found the code, my theory could be way off, but at least this theory will provide something to look for, which might fix the problem.
Quote from: Kiame on November 10, 2017, 09:29:58 PM
Hmm i did try w/ 5 on a crashlanding when i was initially testing and noticed only 3 landed. I did also try a tribal start whch worked as well.
I am perplexed :o
I got around that bug by going into the scenario editor and upping my starting colonists to the amount I wanted to create in PC. If you didn't do that, the pawns aren't deleted, but they are moved in as a world pawn and you can spawn them in and recruit them then (without their starting clothing).
Thought I'd mention here, since I'm still on A17, there's a huge problem when it comes to PC actually saving relationships when unknown pawns are involved in player-set family trees. The problems mentioned recently for the A18 version are pretty much the same issues A17 had when trying to use a preset that has those types of relations and attempting to start the game with just that. (At least, on my end it has... sometimes deleting all relationships worked & I had to start a map and dev mode add relationships I needed. Only drawback with that is there's no solid way to make siblings unless you put some creative liberties into that process.)
In Beta 18, is there any way to add the 5 other colonists to the save in Prepare Carefully? Sorry, I have very little idea of how to adjust things for the game.
I've released an initial version of the mod for beta 18. See the original post for download links. Please consider this a beta release of the mod (a beta release for the beta release :) ). It has a few known issues that I'm working on, but it seems like it mostly works.
Sweet, now I can play! Thanks!
I'll take down my unofficial version. Thank you edb
Thank you for this mod!
So, a few issues I'd like to point out, some of which you seem to acknowledge, but some you might not:
Firstly, you mentioned not being able to handle the "left behind" colonists. Well, with the scenario editor, that's an easy fix. I do it all the time while playing Rimworld.
Second, there's the team skills. This was added with B18, and is dependent of you're current colonists. Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, PC doesn't display this in the interface. Taking this into account also seems appropriate.
Third, you mentioned the incompatibilities with Alien Humanoid Races. See if you can get in contact with Erdelf, and try to work the problem out. He might fanboy out, considering the popularity of your mod, but I'm sure the two of you could work out a solution. Native support would be a godsend for race-modders in Rimworld.
Those are my thoughts, I'm no coding guru, but I'm sure you can work something out. I have a reputation for posting huge threads of suggestions that will probably never happen.
There is an issue on this mod's end with Psychology. I'll let you decipher what this means, but my best guess from my post at the Steam modpage (at both here and there for your convenience, on Steam under B18 Bugs thread) is that there is an issue with rendering Prepare Carefully's GUI while Psychology is enabled, leading to no response when the "Prepare Carefully" button is clicked during colony prep. Here is the error log:
Exception filling window for RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.UtilityCopy.CopyExposableViaReflection (string,object,object,object[]) <0x0006a>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ExtensionsPawn.CopyModdedProperties (Verse.Pawn,Verse.Pawn) <0x00060>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ExtensionsPawn.Copy (Verse.Pawn) <0x0026d>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.InitializePawns () <0x00083>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.Initialize () <0x00034>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.HarmonyPatches.DoWindowContentsPostfix (UnityEngine.Rect,RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns) <0x00171>
at (wrapper dynamic-method) RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.DoWindowContents_Patch1 (object,UnityEngine.Rect) <0x0052b>
at Verse.Window/<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0.<>m__0 (int) <0x00735>
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0:<>m__0(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
Let me know if this helps.
you should add more injuries and spots to put them
Bleeding Wounds, brain wounds, eye wounds ect.
Is anyone else getting grey screen when any pawns take damage after landing? I traced the problem to PrepareCarefully whenever the number of pawns in the scenario is higher than the ones landing after editing it with PC, the colonist bar will error out. A work around is to save as soon as you land then restart the whole RimWorld program. The bug was introduced in A17 August update but for some reason it happens very often in B18.
Quote from: notfood on December 07, 2017, 05:04:29 PM
Is anyone else getting grey screen when any pawns take damage after landing? I traced the problem to PrepareCarefully whenever the number of pawns in the scenario is higher than the ones landing after editing it with PC, the colonist bar will error out. A work around is to save as soon as you land then restart the whole RimWorld program. The bug was introduced in A17 August update but for some reason it happens very often in B18.
I've noticed this too, but have not found any solutions. More likely than not, it's something to do with your mod list, so check for compatibility with other mods, first.
Quote from: EMBEAM on December 07, 2017, 02:17:31 PM
you should add more injuries and spots to put them
Bleeding Wounds, brain wounds, eye wounds ect.
I agree, as there's a few injuries that aren't available from the PC menu, but probably for a damn good reason...
Does not work with the Psychology mod, crashes if you open the custom Psyche window from it.
Quote from: DraconicGaming on December 08, 2017, 04:18:09 AM
Quote from: notfood on December 07, 2017, 05:04:29 PM
Is anyone else getting grey screen when any pawns take damage after landing? I traced the problem to PrepareCarefully whenever the number of pawns in the scenario is higher than the ones landing after editing it with PC, the colonist bar will error out. A work around is to save as soon as you land then restart the whole RimWorld program. The bug was introduced in A17 August update but for some reason it happens very often in B18.
I've noticed this too, but have not found any solutions. More likely than not, it's something to do with your mod list, so check for compatibility with other mods, first.
Nono, 100% certain it's Prepare Carefully causing it. Reproducible always as the only loaded mod.
Quote from: notfood on December 08, 2017, 08:49:21 PM
Quote from: DraconicGaming on December 08, 2017, 04:18:09 AM
Quote from: notfood on December 07, 2017, 05:04:29 PM
Is anyone else getting grey screen when any pawns take damage after landing? I traced the problem to PrepareCarefully whenever the number of pawns in the scenario is higher than the ones landing after editing it with PC, the colonist bar will error out. A work around is to save as soon as you land then restart the whole RimWorld program. The bug was introduced in A17 August update but for some reason it happens very often in B18.
I've noticed this too, but have not found any solutions. More likely than not, it's something to do with your mod list, so check for compatibility with other mods, first.
Nono, 100% certain it's Prepare Carefully causing it. Reproducible always as the only loaded mod.
I'll take a look when I have the time. Most of the time, it has something to do with the mod order, as that is usually the case. Do you have an error log? Error logs can let us take a look at what exactly is happening when the screen turns grey.
In my case with Psychology it doesn't crash but this is the error it gives
Exception filling window for RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.UtilityCopy.CopyExposableViaReflection (string,object,object,object[]) <0x0006a>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ExtensionsPawn.CopyModdedProperties (Verse.Pawn,Verse.Pawn) <0x00060>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.ExtensionsPawn.Copy (Verse.Pawn) <0x0026d>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.InitializePawns () <0x00083>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.Initialize () <0x00034>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.HarmonyPatches.DoWindowContentsPostfix (UnityEngine.Rect,RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns) <0x00171>
at (wrapper dynamic-method) RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.DoWindowContents_Patch1 (object,UnityEngine.Rect) <0x0052b>
at Verse.Window/<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0.<>m__0 (int) <0x00735>
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0:<>m__0(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
After disabling Prepare Carefully and using vanilla randomizing option for pawns now I've got this error spamming.
Exception filling window for RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.ArgumentNullException: Argument cannot be null.
Parameter name: key
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[Verse.Pawn,RimWorld.PortraitsCache+CachedPortrait].TryGetValue (Verse.Pawn key, RimWorld.CachedPortrait& value) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.PortraitsCache.Get (Verse.Pawn pawn, Vector2 size, Vector3 cameraOffset, Single cameraZoom) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.DrawPawnList (Rect rect) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.DoWindowContents (Rect rect) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Window+<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0.<>m__0 (Int32 x) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Verse.Log:Error(String)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0:<>m__0(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
Thanks too this mod, I finally got into modding the game. This is my fav no.1 mod to have. Thanks for making it, I hope it keeps uptdate a long with the base game. Keep up the good work. :D
This is conflicting with Rim Madness Vampires. Couldn't start the game through EDB, once I took it out it worked fine. The specific error is something like "Could not create or find player base faction". Something like that.
Edit: I completely forgot how to do the steps.
During scenario editor, choose the vampire one. Select your world etc. Choose EDB and then try to start the game.
Just 4 words
Can't live/play without it
Thank you for sharing this amazing mod!
Having a problem with the mod: When I set relationships on the relationships tab, the map won't load. It just throws me back to the title screen. Every other part of prepare carefully seems to work fine, it's just the relationships. I'm getting around it by adding relationships in dev mode once the games loaded, but I'm not sure what the problem is with the character creation one. I'm guessing it's a conflict with another mod, but I don't have the patience to figure out which because i have over 120. I'm happy with my workaround, just thought I'd bring it up.
Russian translation added (https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/pull/205). Merge it, please.
Can someone help me getting this mod to work and the "Prepare Carefully" button to appear? I only have Hugslib and this mod loaded. Order is: core->Hugslib->EDB Prepare Carefully I'm running 18.1722 of the game. I tried both Hugs and Prepare mods via Steam Workshop and that didn't work, then I unsubscribed both and manually installed latest versions of both into the Mod folder. I can't get the button to appear. Thoughts??
Quote from: RavenOne on January 05, 2018, 11:26:41 AM
Can someone help me getting this mod to work and the "Prepare Carefully" button to appear? I only have Hugslib and this mod loaded. Order is: core->Hugslib->EDB Prepare Carefully I'm running 18.1722 of the game. I tried both Hugs and Prepare mods via Steam Workshop and that didn't work, then I unsubscribed both and manually installed latest versions of both into the Mod folder. I can't get the button to appear. Thoughts??
Doh! I figured it out. Its not until AFTER you select a landing spot that the screen shows with the button. That might want to be a clear instruction on the 1st post for use newbs :)
So whenever I hit the Prepare Careful button, my RimWorld crashes. I've got close to 300 mods, but I have no idea which would be causing it. Also, unfortunately, as I was building this mod list and eliminating errors, I never bothered to check if it worked until I was ready to start making my own crew. So I have no idea what messed it up along the way. I've tried it near the very top, and the bottom, of my mod list. Does anyone know of any particular mods that would be messing with it? It sucks really bad, because I would trade a lot, like 40-50 mods, just to have this one working. When starting a test run, I got ultra lucky on my rerolls and got magically gifted, vampire, and werewolf (with jogger!), but I know I will pretty much never, ever get that again with random rerolls. Another thing that sucks too, it seemed like no matter where I would put Prepare Carefully, and have no errors in the log, my game still crashes when I press the button. It just takes sooooo long to try and find what mods are crashing it, because it takes very long to start, maybe close to 10 minutes. If I have to, I think I will just start turning half of the mods off, and keep halving the mod list until I can get it to work. Looks like it's gonna be another fun day of tracking down whatever's messing something else up... and the girlfriend is gone all day today too >:( Meaning I'm glad she's gone, but I hate that I will spend today bug hunting!
At first your should take a look at the error log after a crash.
Check the last entries, that maybe give a clue why it is crashed.
Does not work with Psychology if you disable the Sexchanges. Please fix, button just does not work.
Hey EdB, I love your mod, and all the things it's allowed me to do. Whether it's keeping old colonists around to struggle another day, recreate my favorite characters, or help build a new story, I love it.
I just wanted to know if it was possible to put a button somewhere - menu, mod settings, etc - to open the Prepare Carefully Menu prior to the process that is selecting a scenario, loading a world, selecting a tile, and then going into PC? I'm guilty of the same thing many other players are (I just have too damn many mods) and the whole process can be a pain, especially if the world fails to load and I've got to go through with the process again. If you can't, it's completely understandable! I don't know how to mod (yet) and I'm sure that you either don't have the time to do it, knowledge of how to do it, or there's just borderline no possible way to do it as of yet.
I hope your life's treating you well, and continues to.
Quote from: Call me Arty on January 16, 2018, 12:56:44 AM
Hey EdB, I love your mod, and all the things it's allowed me to do. Whether it's keeping old colonists around to struggle another day, recreate my favorite characters, or help build a new story, I love it.
I just wanted to know if it was possible to put a button somewhere - menu, mod settings, etc - to open the Prepare Carefully Menu prior to the process that is selecting a scenario, loading a world, selecting a tile, and then going into PC? I'm guilty of the same thing many other players are (I just have too damn many mods) and the whole process can be a pain, especially if the world fails to load and I've got to go through with the process again. If you can't, it's completely understandable! I don't know how to mod (yet) and I'm sure that you either don't have the time to do it, knowledge of how to do it, or there's just borderline no possible way to do it as of yet.
I hope your life's treating you well, and continues to.
Thinking about this, you want the load order the be reversed? So that what you hit New Colony, the first thing you can do is choose Prepare Carefully, then do scenario, then world gen, yeah? Why not just save your "profile" of your pawns you carefully prepared before you try to launch game, so that way if it crashes, you can just reload them. It sounds like to me, that you are having an issue that there is already a solution for, you just prefer one order of the other, no?
Quote from: Harry_Dicks on January 16, 2018, 02:53:12 AM
Thinking about this, you want the load order the be reversed? So that what you hit New Colony, the first thing you can do is choose Prepare Carefully, then do scenario, then world gen, yeah? Why not just save your "profile" of your pawns you carefully prepared before you try to launch game, so that way if it crashes, you can just reload them. It sounds like to me, that you are having an issue that there is already a solution for, you just prefer one order of the other, no?
Well, I save my pawns every time I finish working on them, the issue's when I found just the right seed with just the right tile with the right combination of my favorite stones, rivers for (modded) fishing, and a road that connects me to my favorite (modded) factions. Then, finish my work, crash. Not even PC's fault (fairly certain) and just all the other things I have loaded not playing well.
Sometimes, I just want to make a bunch of pawns like I'm playing dolls or something, and just try to see what I can come up with after digging through dozens of backstories and screwing around with all the little features. I'd just appreciate having to press fewer buttons to do it.
maybe you got the same problem as i do. when i start a new game and roll trough the pawns till im content, i sometimes save them. it seems saving a preset of pawns causes some error. if i open edb and save a preset, clicking on the confirmation doesnt start to generate the planet. instead it closes the edb gui and im back to the regular pawn selection screen. hitting start from there causes an error (cant remember the exact phrase, something like "error while generating a map"). if i dont save a preset i never have this issue. this is everything strange i see in the logfile:
Could not generate starting map because there is no any player faction base.
Exception from asynchronous event: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Verse.Game.InitNewGame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Root_Play.<Start>m__1 () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.LongEventHandler.RunEventFromAnotherThread (System.Action action) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at first i thought its an issue between mad skillz and edb. because i noticed in my last game, that a pawn had a low melee skill (lvl 5-ish) and around 14000 of 5000 xp. so he should have clearly leveled up looong time ago. then i remembered i fiddled with the skill levels of my pawns because i changed the starting pet from a useless one to a labrador and balanced it out with decreasing skill levels before crashlanding. the reason i write all this here is, i did "some" testing and i think edb doesnt go well with linq's psychology mod. at first i threw out a lot of mods i didnt want to use any further anyways. the list got pretty short then already. but the error still appeared. using bisection to decide what mods to turn off for the next testrun, i narrowed it down pretty fast and indeed, as soon as i disable psychology, everything works as expected. turning psychology on and saving a preset, causes a failure while generating the map.
in the end i disabled even more mods i dont want to use anymore, but still, heres a list of mods that are definitly compatible :D
HugsLib, ColonyManager, ExpandedProsthetics&OrganEngineering, WorkTab, ResearchPal, StackMerger, QualityBuilder, MedicalTab, MadSkills, ImprovedWorkbenches, EdBPrepareCarefully, ConduitDeconstruct, and AllowTool
Hi,
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. This mod is at the top of my mod list, but when I click Prepare Carefully in the spawn creation, it does nothing. I've used previously and everything was good. What am I doing wrong?
Edit: Nvm found the problem. The mod wouldn't work with Psychology enabled somehow.
At first just try to delete the old mod folder, and unzip the "EdBPrepareCarefully-0.18.2.zip" again into mods, just be sure you have the latest, and no old files.
Or when you use steam, unsubscribe and resubscribe so the old get deleted.
If that don't help we need more info.
If you got hugslib installed, use the "share log" button at the error window and post the link.
Quote from: Canute on January 20, 2018, 09:35:17 AM
At first just try to delete the old mod folder, and unzip the "EdBPrepareCarefully-0.18.2.zip" again into mods, just be sure you have the latest, and no old files.
Or when you use steam, unsubscribe and resubscribe so the old get deleted.
If that don't help we need more info.
If you got hugslib installed, use the "share log" button at the error window and post the link.
There is no error when I click Prepare Carefully. The button is there, but it just doesn't do anything with Psychology enabled. With Psychology disabled, it works fine.
This is the error log I get when starting up the game: https://gist.github.com/0af2dafcfd9b1adf1b925b5f3dfe2c7a
My current active mods are: Core, Hugslib, ModSync, ModSwitch, Prepare Carefully, Psychology.
Edit: For testing purposes, I renamed my current Mods folder, create a new Mods folder with Core, then unzipped Hugslib, Prepare Carefully and Psychology (all latest versions) again. I'm still having trouble that the Prepare Carefully button isn't working with Psychology enabled.
Quote from: coldcell on January 20, 2018, 09:24:15 AM
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. This mod is at the top of my mod list, but when I click Prepare Carefully in the spawn creation, it does nothing. I've used previously and everything was good. What am I doing wrong?
Edit: Nvm found the problem. The mod wouldn't work with Psychology enabled somehow.
It's caused not by Psychology as a whole but if you are using it with
disabled sexuality changes. I think you can enable it before generating a map and then disable if you don't want it.
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=34112.msg387735#msg387735
Quote from: wwWraith on January 20, 2018, 10:40:30 AM
Quote from: coldcell on January 20, 2018, 09:24:15 AM
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. This mod is at the top of my mod list, but when I click Prepare Carefully in the spawn creation, it does nothing. I've used previously and everything was good. What am I doing wrong?
Edit: Nvm found the problem. The mod wouldn't work with Psychology enabled somehow.
It's caused not by Psychology as a whole but if you are using it with disabled sexuality changes. I think you can enable it before generating a map and then disable if you don't want it.
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=34112.msg387735#msg387735
Wow you're right.. How did you figure it out?! Thanks mate...
Im running Prepare carefully but the descriptions of some of the backstories still use gendered terms, (he/she when Im creating a specific male or female colonist) others use names, or set things into the backstory, (that they have a wife for example) is there any way to remove this? Or change the description with prepare carefully?
Quote from: Ruisuki on February 12, 2018, 05:26:00 AM
Im running Prepare carefully but the descriptions of some of the backstories still use gendered terms, (he/she when Im creating a specific male or female colonist) others use names, or set things into the backstory, (that they have a wife for example) is there any way to remove this? Or change the description with prepare carefully?
You can try Editable Backstories. The things is with Prepare Carefully, is it will overwrite any restrictions that a race or pawn might have on backstories, in other words you are able to select from the backstories that are meant for only a specific pawn with a specific name and/or gender. This means you could have something like an orassan with an android's backstory. So when those backstories were made and formatted, they were not set up to be used with pawns with different names or different genders. What you could do, is see how a backstory is setup in the xml that can be applied to any pawns, and then use these clues to modify the "non generic" or "gender specific" backstories that you want to modify to your liking.
That makes sense. Ill look into backstories thanks.
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is there any way to make sure other custom characters show up during events, or as part of other factions mid game? I want to have all 8 of my people within my colonies but only want to start with 3-4 and recruit the others over time.
Really not sure how you would go about that, but you could do this. When you capture your new colonists, and you want them to be one of "your people" that you created. With the mod Change Dresser (one of Kiame's mods and I highly recommend all of them) you can change the appearance of your pawns. You could also change their backstory too with Editable Backstories, I believe, but I haven't tried this myself so I don't know how it works for pawns already in a game. You could also rename them as well. So you could at least rename, and make them look how you want. I think with dev mode too you can add/remove traits if you want to. So you might have to do a little "cheating" but it is up to you to restrain yourself and not ruin the game :P
Quote from: Harry_Dicks on February 14, 2018, 01:14:16 AM
Really not sure how you would go about that, but you could do this. When you capture your new colonists, and you want them to be one of "your people" that you created. With the mod Change Dresser (one of Kiame's mods and I highly recommend all of them) you can change the appearance of your pawns. You could also change their backstory too with Editable Backstories, I believe, but I haven't tried this myself so I don't know how it works for pawns already in a game. You could also rename them as well. So you could at least rename, and make them look how you want. I think with dev mode too you can add/remove traits if you want to. So you might have to do a little "cheating" but it is up to you to restrain yourself and not ruin the game :P
Ah damn I was hoping to do recruit gradually, thats what I tend to do in other rpgs, the foremost example of this escapes me atm. Maybe one day a mod will come out to do something about this haha. I appreciate the advice though. While I liked the idea of changedresser I couldnt get over all the extra stuff it did that broke my immersion. But if 'cheating' is my only resort...
Also do you happen to know the exact process of adding/removing traits via the dev mode?
Quote from: Ruisuki on February 14, 2018, 03:30:13 AM
Also do you happen to know the exact process of adding/removing traits via the dev mode?
Honestly I haven't looked at it myself, but I am about 95% confident it's there. You'll just have to enable dev mode, and then click on of the icons at the top of the screen, one of the ones near the middle. When one of the windows pops up that has all of the actions you can do, there's something in there, probably near the middle in the 3rd column (total guess) that will let you modify a pawns attributes. I'm pretty sure when I was browsing through there the other day that I saw you could create new relationships as well. So you could make the new person you recruit a long lost family member, or whatever. I also think you can even make familial connections that would normally be impossible. That's why I'm pretty sure there should be one for traits, too. Worst case scenario, once you get your new pawns recruited into your colony, ten you save the game, and you can go in and edit in the traits into the save game file, which really isn't too difficult. Definitely try yourself, but if you get stuck, I can help you.
I don't know if you have ever answered or heard this before but I cant seem to set up family relationships between alien races, I can set relationships like bonds or lovers, but for some reason not family
I realize this mod has been around for 4 years and that OP replied last 7 pages ago. All that is great. But I searched for balance specifically around "max" and "20" to see if anyone else realized how powerful pawns would be when they can be guaranteed to start at with a max of 20 in any particular skill. I also realize that skills lose XP in vanilla, but this is rather often patched away for users who use mods. Lastly, I know that the early days of the mod were known to not necessarily balanced.
I did not see anything in the first post so I'll ask some of the regulars like HD in addition to EdB if the B18 version is considered "finished" where balance is concerned. Are passions/items/skill allocation generally rated in good proportionate worth for any two things the mod compares?
If yes, I'd like to draw people's attention to how skill points seem to have exponential returns the further along you are into building a super colonist. If no, I'd like to ask what the difficulties are currently, in hopes of helping EdB solve them from a balancing standpoint (all the technical stuff I leave to him).
Why does the hidden characters i set as hidden ends are always dead when i check their relationships with dev mode?
Sometimes when I take too long to edit in prepare carefully there will be an error in generating the map. Anyway to fix this? (Well, this is not a huge issue since what I do is after fully editting my pawns and items, I save it as a preset then ho back to main menu. Start again by loading the preset then done. But I kinda just want to reduce the hassle.)
i have a bug,i have a lot of mods (compatible with EDB) and everything was working perfectly but when i try clicking the "Prepare Carefully" it doesn't work,it clicks but nothing happens.
Brunohenry1,
beside the Lord of the Rim's mod, all other races and mod i used so far (nearly anything from the forum beside CE and Psychology) worked fine with PC.
Try to move PC up at the modlist or at the bottom and check if it helps.
But currently you can't await any update or responce from the modauthor, he retired from Rimworld.
You know, I don't think it's fair to claim EdB has retired from modding in Rimworld. He showed up during beta 18 to update his mod, so its entirely possible that he will show up once 1.0 is out (and not as an opt in beta branch), and update this again.
With that said, I don't know that anymore than anyone else who says either way. I would just like to add my voice here though that I much like this mod, and hope to see it updated. If not by EdB, there must be someone out there with enough knowledge to perhaps update this; the source code is available for download, afterall.
Here's hoping!
Me, too! :D Here's hoping!
For anyone who can't play without this great mod here's a totally unofficial version of PrepareCarefully for 1.0.
https://github.com/KiameV/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/download/unofficial/EdBPrepareCarefully-unofficial.zip
I am not going to be supporting this fully and I'm sure there are bugs scattered throughout.
There is a bug that if a pawn is added to the default starting roster it will prevent the game from starting due to errors - to avoid, don't add any pawns with this unofficial 1.0 version of prepare carefully (3 pawns for crash land, 5 for tribal, 1 for rich dude, etc)
Edb as soon as you mention you're updating this for 1.0 or you would like me to remove this mod say so and I will remove it.
Quote from: Kiame on June 23, 2018, 02:32:54 AM
For anyone who can't play without this great mod here's a totally unofficial version of PrepareCarefully for 1.0.
https://github.com/KiameV/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/download/unofficial/EdBPrepareCarefully-unofficial.zip
I am not going to be supporting this fully and I'm sure there are bugs scattered throughout.
There is a bug that if a pawn is added to the default starting roster it will prevent the game from starting due to errors - to avoid, don't add any pawns with this unofficial 1.0 version of prepare carefully (3 pawns for crash land, 5 for tribal, 1 for rich dude, etc)
Edb as soon as you mention you're updating this for 1.0 or you would like me to remove this mod say so and I will remove it.
Thanks Kiame. Certainly helps a lot for those of us who have become far too reliant on this mod lol. Of course when EdB updates his mod to 1.0, I'll remove the unofficial version. :)
Quote from: Kiame on June 23, 2018, 02:32:54 AM
For anyone who can't play without this great mod here's a totally unofficial version of PrepareCarefully for 1.0.
https://github.com/KiameV/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/download/unofficial/EdBPrepareCarefully-unofficial.zip
I am not going to be supporting this fully and I'm sure there are bugs scattered throughout.
There is a bug that if a pawn is added to the default starting roster it will prevent the game from starting due to errors - to avoid, don't add any pawns with this unofficial 1.0 version of prepare carefully (3 pawns for crash land, 5 for tribal, 1 for rich dude, etc)
Edb as soon as you mention you're updating this for 1.0 or you would like me to remove this mod say so and I will remove it.
Kiame, you are beautifully wonderful! Thank you for this, and for a clear explanation on the limits for it. An awesome temporary stop-gap measure!
EDITJust a note that I was able to add additional people to the roster and start a game; see
EDIT 3 for a workaround of this issue.
I'm running no other mods whatsoever. It's possible then that, at least without one other single mod, you might still be able to add people and start a game. Might at least be worth trying, since it seems to be hit and miss. But, of course, do not in any way ignore Kiame's warning on this folks.
I cannot load presets of characters (though I only had one to try). I was, however, able to load characters from saved characters, but with a few issues. For example, Green Thumb the trait has been removed, so my character loaded missing it. Also, I had a character background or two get changed spontaneously for some of the characters I loaded from old saved characters.
None of this is a big issue really. I'm just thrilled it works, even if only partially. Again, thank you so much Kiame!
EDIT 2I just discovered that I can load saved characters from my old version of Prepare Carefully (as mentioned above), except where Bionics were concerned. However, I also discovered that if I save a character (or overwrite an old saved character), that character will both not save properly, and will not load up properly either, after that.
So just a warning to all; it looks like the saving function for characters (and as mentioned in my first edit, presets) is broken. You can load up old characters with some things changed on them (particularly their backgrounds it seems), as long as they didn't have bionics, but you can't save a character and then load them, from what I'm experiencing. You can still use the mod though to create custom characters. Hope this helps anyone trying this out!
EDIT 3, with workaround for not being able to hit "Start" with your customized roster.Turns out I experienced and (at least the two times I tried this) got around Kiame's described issue of not being able to launch into the game when you hit the "Start" button from the Prepare Carefully customize window. If you add someone to the roster, or even if you remove and replace the existing roster, when you're done you hit "Start", of course. You get a confirmation, and then you SHOULD launch into the game. However if you've added characters to your roster or even maybe removed them (?), it seems that the game will just drop you back out to the initial character window, where you were before you pressed the "Prepare Carefully" button.
When this happens, notice that you see your character list as customized by you, but likely it shows the currently selected character as being one of the original characters the game rolled up before you went in and customized your own. All you have to do is click on one of your own characters in the customized roster. The active character then changes to the details window of which ever one you clicked on, and doing this seems to then allow you to hit "Start" from there, and launch into the game, customized characters and all.
You shouldn't load any presets from previously Rimworld releases anyway.
There is also a draft version of Prepare on a github page:
https://github.com/notfood/EdBPrepareCarefully
Seems like the newest version of RW broke the mod again, at least I can't play with it enabled as it throws endless errors on startup and makes the game disable all mods.
Quote from: Syrchalis on June 30, 2018, 06:09:54 AM
Seems like the newest version of RW broke the mod again, at least I can't play with it enabled as it throws endless errors on startup and makes the game disable all mods.
One thing? Can't you turn an opinion off in the settings that makes it so the mods don't get disabled when these types of errors happen?
there is that option. The annoying part is it's off by default so each time you toggle dev mode you also need to toggle that setting.
Seeing as there is a version of PC in development i probably wont update my version
Quote from: viperwasp on June 30, 2018, 02:03:24 PM
One thing? Can't you turn an opinion off in the settings that makes it so the mods don't get disabled when these types of errors happen?
Yeah, but that doesn't help, because I can't load a game with this mod. Mod active -> game bugs out, endless errors (before loading a game), mod inactive -> game broken, endless errors (after loading the save).
I'll have to wait for an update. Until then I'll play a new save without EdB.
I know this isn't your mod and all but Please save us Miqote wizard, i can't play without this mod anymore.
Quote from: whitebunny on June 30, 2018, 09:20:53 PM
I know this isn't your mod and all but Please save us Miqote wizard, i can't play without this mod anymore.
Paladin actually ;D
At this point the code that's broken is out of my areas of expertise modding wise. I know Edb is getting updated and due to the size of this mod it's not a easy task. What I had done previously is just get it to compile and fix a few easy things - in no way actually getting it ready for 1.0. At this point in time I am focused on keeping my other mods (18 in total now :o ) updated as new unstable versions roll out and right now there are a few that need updating.
Don't forget notfood update this mod too (Github before 14 days).
Since the main unstable game get updated at daily base, many modder wait for the final release.
Haha i couldn't stay away...
I've uploaded a new unofficial prep carefully version that appears to work. I've modified parts of this mod that I have no confidence in so to a point use this at your own risk.
https://github.com/KiameV/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/download/1.0/EdBPrepareCarefully-unofficial.zip
Quote from: Kiame on July 02, 2018, 12:41:09 AM
Haha i couldn't stay away...
I've uploaded a new unofficial prep carefully version that appears to work. I've modified parts of this mod that I have no confidence in so to a point use this at your own risk.
https://github.com/KiameV/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/download/1.0/EdBPrepareCarefully-unofficial.zip
Haha, cheers Kiame. Can't wait for the stable 1.0 release. Then I can have my mods back! :)
Just wanted to let everyone know that I am working on a version of the mod for 1.0. There is a test release available on github:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/
Thanks to everyone who put in the time and effort to fork the code repo to get a version of the mod working with 1.0. Apologies that I was away and not checking the forums/Steam.
no worries edb :)
If there's a test version on your end i'll take my hacked version down. I'd much prefer people were testing against yours
And thank you for the continued support for this great mod
Quote from: EdB on July 02, 2018, 10:11:48 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know that I am working on a version of the mod for 1.0. There is a test release available on github:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/
Thanks to everyone who put in the time and effort to fork the code repo to get a version of the mod working with 1.0. Apologies that I was away and not checking the forums/Steam.
Awesome!
I am looking forward to the full 1.0 release, both of your mod and the game proper. :)
Todays update seems to have broken Prepare Carefully. It won't let it load when you start a new game.
I can load a previous save file with the same mods and load order with no problem.
1.0.1960 rev1360 (development build)
Exception filling window for RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.FieldAccessException: Field `Verse.HediffComp_GetsPermanent:painFactor' is inaccessible from method `EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn:InitializeInjuriesAndImplantsFromPawn (Verse.Pawn)'
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.InitializeWithPawn (Verse.Pawn) <IL 0x00236, 0x0067e>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn..ctor (Verse.Pawn) <IL 0x000c2, 0x00258>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.InitializePawns () <IL 0x00041, 0x000a9>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.Initialize () <IL 0x00017, 0x00034>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.HarmonyPatches.DoWindowContentsPostfix (UnityEngine.Rect,RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns) <IL 0x0006c, 0x00171>
at (wrapper dynamic-method) RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.DoWindowContents_Patch1 (object,UnityEngine.Rect) <IL 0x000be, 0x0052b>
at Verse.Window/<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0.<>m__0 (int) [0x00223] in C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:202
Quote from: spyderwebsc on July 10, 2018, 02:56:03 PM
Todays update seems to have broken Prepare Carefully. It won't let it load when you start a new game.
I can load a previous save file with the same mods and load order with no problem.
Some changes in the 1.0.1960 release of the game broke the 1.0.2 test release of the mod. I've released a new version, 1.0.3, that should fix the problem: https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/
Me thinks it's broken again. ;/ The window does not open when i press Prepare carefully.
Seems to have been broken by the most recent update, here is my error, let me know if you need me to post the "copy to clipboard" stuff.
(https://i.imgur.com/hdqmrzV.png)
Having same issues as others have stated, button wont open the window anymore, Have tried just running this as the only mod, restarting pc, and reinstalling the mod.
EdB - I panicked when I came here after time off from the game and didn't see Prepare Carefully updated. I have been playing this game since way before it came to steam and your mods have become my absolutely HAVE to have when I play the game. If you look at my posts (which are few and very far between) they are complimenting your work and the work of so many amazing modders.
THANK YOU for your tenacity and loyalty to this game. You have enhanced the gameplay for me so much. Much appreciation to you and the other folks who do so much for us idiots who don't know how to do this stuff :)
Edit: I looked at my posts from prior years...it seems I am your fanboi. No...this is not EdB complimenting himself all the time. I just appreciate the great mods he (and SO many others have done to enhance this game :) )
Just an fyi to all. If the exception is a missing method exception there's nothing to fix it besides updating the code (modder's side) or wait for an update (user side) ;)
There is a 1.0.4 test release of the mod available for download from github that is compatible with today's unstable release, 1.0.1969.
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
Quote from: EdB on July 19, 2018, 11:33:38 PM
There is a 1.0.4 test release of the mod available for download from github that is compatible with today's unstable release, 1.0.1969.
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
A hero.
Thanks.
Quote from: EdB on July 19, 2018, 11:33:38 PM
There is a 1.0.4 test release of the mod available for download from github that is compatible with today's unstable release, 1.0.1969.
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
Thank you very much! The B in your name must stand for BEAST.
it doesn't work for me it says i have the wrong version. well it says the version its for is unknown can you please fix it i love this mod i just want it to work
Quote from: aminjosh on July 22, 2018, 01:23:27 AM
it doesn't work for me it says i have the wrong version. well it says the version its for is unknown can you please fix it i love this mod i just want it to work
What version of the game are you using? B18 or 1.0?
Quote from: Kiame on July 22, 2018, 01:29:53 AM
What version of the game are you using? B18 or 1.0?
Im using 1.0
Go to your Mod folder and open the folder that should be named EdBPrepareCarefully-1.0.4. You should see another folder named EdBPrepareCarefully. Copy that one to your mods folder and delete the now empty EdBPrepareCarefully-1.0.4 folder. It should work now.
When using Windows Extract All, Windows will want to make a new folder to extract the zip file into. You can avoid this if you tell it to extract the files to just whatever your download folder is named.
Quote from: aminjosh on July 22, 2018, 01:23:27 AM
it doesn't work for me it says i have the wrong version. well it says the version its for is unknown can you please fix it i love this mod i just want it to work
See the note about "double-extracting" in the "To install" section on the github download page. Make sure you didn't accidentally end up with two folders, "Mods/Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully/EdBPrepareCarefully". It should just be "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully". Like spyderwebsc mentions in the post above, it's easy to accidentally end up with the double-folder problem if you're using Windows Extract All.
Quote from: EdB on July 22, 2018, 12:12:03 PM
Quote from: aminjosh on July 22, 2018, 01:23:27 AM
it doesn't work for me it says i have the wrong version. well it says the version its for is unknown can you please fix it i love this mod i just want it to work
See the note about "double-extracting" in the "To install" section on the github download page. Make sure you didn't accidentally end up with two folders, "Mods/Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully/EdBPrepareCarefully". It should just be "Mods/EdBPrepareCarefully". Like spyderwebsc mentions in the post above, it's easy to accidentally end up with the double-folder problem if you're using Windows Extract All.
thanks edb love your mod cant wait to use it
Its kinda my fault it didn't work on github the instructions say don't use the source code and i didn't read the instructions
Well the good news is i can activate the mod. the bad news is i cant start a new game.when i try to start a new game it wont load the world and it just brings me back to the menu when you put in a seed.
I'm wondering if anyone might know a mod that does this already, or if not, if it could be a feature suggestion:
A friend and myself like to trade character files but, of course, to use them we have to start a new game. I'm wondering if it might be possible, via another mod or new feature, to import .pcc's into a running game. Perhaps via a crashlanding event, or making them show up at the next pirate trader's arrival, or similar.
Thanks.
I mean you could just spawn an escape pod event and replace the pawn with yours via savefile editing.
i get this error when i click prepare carefully button in character creation screen. And then nothing happens. Sorry if someone already mentioned a fix
Exception filling window for RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns: System.MissingMethodException: Method not found: 'Verse.HediffComp_GetsPermanent.get_PainFactor'.
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn.InitializeWithPawn (Verse.Pawn) <IL 0x00236, 0x0089b>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn..ctor (Verse.Pawn) <IL 0x000c2, 0x00411>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.InitializePawns () <IL 0x00041, 0x00126>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PrepareCarefully.Initialize () <IL 0x00017, 0x00079>
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.HarmonyPatches.DoWindowContentsPostfix (UnityEngine.Rect,RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns) <IL 0x0006c, 0x00226>
at (wrapper dynamic-method) RimWorld.Page_ConfigureStartingPawns.DoWindowContents_Patch1 (object,UnityEngine.Rect) <IL 0x000be, 0x00542>
at Verse.Window/<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0.<>m__0 (int) [0x00223] in C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:202
Verse.Log:Error(String, Boolean) (at C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\Utility\Debug\Log\Log.cs:78)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0:<>m__0(Int32) (at C:\Dev\RimWorld\Assets\Scripts\Verse\UI\Windows\Window.cs:206)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle) (at C:\buildslave\unity\build\Runtime\IMGUI\Managed\GUI.cs:1817)
Edit:I found out that i downloaded the wrong version of the mod
I've released a new test release of the mod, 1.0.5, for the 1.0 unstable version of the game:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/
This version adds a few new features, including backstory filtering and the ability to customize faction leaders.
Give it a try if you don't mind a few bugs!
Pretty interesting being able to creature pawns for the wider world.
However, it's apparently broken the ability to customize relationships. Familial, spousal, lover, etc, all show up in the Prepare Carefully menu when using them, but unless they were randomly created during outside of it, as soon as your pawns drop into the world, they only show up having a "friend" relationship with the other pawns.
Quote from: Treason5240 on August 04, 2018, 08:26:05 PM
Pretty interesting being able to creature pawns for the wider world.
However, it's apparently broken the ability to customize relationships. Familial, spousal, lover, etc, all show up in the Prepare Carefully menu when using them, but unless they were randomly created during outside of it, as soon as your pawns drop into the world, they only show up having a "friend" relationship with the other pawns.
Thanks for the bug report. Will fix it.
Quote from: Treason5240 on August 04, 2018, 08:26:05 PM
Pretty interesting being able to creature pawns for the wider world.
However, it's apparently broken the ability to customize relationships. Familial, spousal, lover, etc, all show up in the Prepare Carefully menu when using them, but unless they were randomly created during outside of it, as soon as your pawns drop into the world, they only show up having a "friend" relationship with the other pawns.
There's a new version available that should fix this problem:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
Checked out the updated version.
Custom pawn relationships are working, again.
Question: Is it intended that any new pawn you create in the "World" tab cannot be used in a relationship with a colonist while they stay in the World tab?
Example: I created a custom pawn in the World setting, left them there, and tried to add them as the parent to first, my custom pawn, then to one of the randomly generated pawns at the start of the scenario. The custom pawn in the World setting did not show up to add to a relationship for either one.
Quote from: Treason5240 on August 04, 2018, 11:45:33 PM
Question: Is it intended that any new pawn you create in the "World" tab cannot be used in a relationship with a colonist while they stay in the World tab?
Not as intended. It looks like that problem happens when you add a character using the "..." button. Using the "Add" button looks like it works as expected. I will fix it.
I haven't seen this anywhere else so I don't know if this is an issue with EdB Prepare Carefully or not but during the site selection phase if I choose a map size greater than 300 x 300, when I click on the reddish "Continue" after selecting the "Prepare Carefully" options it will not go forward.
MrGrumblier,
since there is currently 2 possible rimworld version out, could you say what version did you use ?
Quote from: Canute on August 08, 2018, 04:51:00 PM
MrGrumblier,
since there is currently 2 possible rimworld version out, could you say what version did you use ?
I'm using Beta 18.
Please enable developer mod at the option, and try it again just to see if there is any error given out and post the log then please (Share logs button or output_log.txt).
I guess you are using serveral other mods too.
Could you try if that happen with just core and EdB PC enabled.
Late to the party but the interface is clean, intuitive, and delivers in 2 minutes what would take an hour of clicking "random" button. Well done
Quote from: Canute on August 09, 2018, 03:15:27 AM
Please enable developer mod at the option, and try it again just to see if there is any error given out and post the log then please (Share logs button or output_log.txt).
I guess you are using serveral other mods too.
Could you try if that happen with just core and EdB PC enabled.
Looks like the problem is with another mod that is conflicting with EdB PC. It works fine with just core and EdB PC even on the largest map size. My apologies and my thanks for a outstanding mod. I can't play without it.
Now if I could just find a mod to stop newly hatched chicks from eating as much as a peon...
The first Beta 19 release of the mod is available for download from github:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v0.19.8
where can i find the older vertions so i can finish my b 18 games
Quote from: EdB on August 28, 2018, 03:18:23 AM
The first Beta 19 release of the mod is available for download from github:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v0.19.8
Wow thanks EdB, you're a legend
Quote from: Smexy_Vampire on August 28, 2018, 06:00:08 AM
where can i find the older vertions so i can finish my b 18 games
Looks like you have no expierence with internet surfing or just to lazy :-(
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v0.18.2
And when you remove these "/tag/v0.18.2" you will see all version if you want play a A17 playthrough.
As was posted as a thread in the General Discussions section of these forums, I too have noticed that many of the childhood backgrounds are missing from the current choices given in EdB Prepare Carefully and there are a couple that show on original pawns that aren't available either.
Quote from: decourcy on August 29, 2018, 12:53:59 PM
Hi, I updated to B19 yesterday so I started a new colony.
I noticed using 'Prepare Carefully' mod that there were few childhood traits left but still the full list of adult traits.
I uninstalled the game, deleted the directory the game had been in, reinstalled the game with no mods, started another colony and hit randomize many times and I am still getting only maybe 17 or 18 childhood traits.
Were they largely removed from the game? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Were they changed in the base game, or is there some reason why many are missing?
Quote from: Golden on August 29, 2018, 11:19:06 PM
As was posted as a thread in the General Discussions section of these forums, I too have noticed that many of the childhood backgrounds are missing from the current choices given in EdB Prepare Carefully and there are a couple that show on original pawns that aren't available either.
Quote from: decourcy on August 29, 2018, 12:53:59 PM
Hi, I updated to B19 yesterday so I started a new colony.
I noticed using 'Prepare Carefully' mod that there were few childhood traits left but still the full list of adult traits.
I uninstalled the game, deleted the directory the game had been in, reinstalled the game with no mods, started another colony and hit randomize many times and I am still getting only maybe 17 or 18 childhood traits.
Were they largely removed from the game? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Were they changed in the base game, or is there some reason why many are missing?
The problem with backstories is fixed in the latest release, 0.19.9. Find the download link in the original post.
The prepare pawn button isn't at the bottom of the pawn screen anymore.
Quote from: haru66 on September 05, 2018, 12:58:31 PM
The prepare pawn button isn't at the bottom of the pawn screen anymore.
Are you still on the unstable channel and received the .19.2017 update? If so, go to the beta settings and opt out of all betas.
I was playing it on the b19 version and it was just fine yesterday.
Quote from: haru66 on September 05, 2018, 02:15:40 PM
I was playing it on the b19 version and it was just fine yesterday.
Tynan just released an unstable version to work on translations and warned about it. I would think that is your problem now.
Ahhh ok! Thanks for clearing that up. I'll just wait for an update lol
You can choose to do the stable Beta 19 version, instead of waiting. :)
Quote from: Golden on September 05, 2018, 06:56:14 PM
You can choose to do the stable Beta 19 version, instead of waiting. :)
How can I do that it only goes to b18
Quote from: haru66 on September 06, 2018, 09:53:30 AM
Quote from: Golden on September 05, 2018, 06:56:14 PM
You can choose to do the stable Beta 19 version, instead of waiting. :)
How can I do that it only goes to b18
Choose the option: "None - opt out of all betas"
That setting currently goes to B19 version: 0.19.2009
Can i edit new colonists that join me after game starts? Or add new ones during the game? Cus i started only with 2 i created and i don't like the new ones who joined me after.
no
https://pastebin.com/4hxz5pjW
I only have Core and Prep Carefully loaded on my mod list yet, it refuses to work for me, I'm using B19. Any ideas or help?
^^
Quote from: EdB on September 21, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
Be sure that you're running the latest version of Beta 19. Prepare Carefully will not work with earlier versions (anything before 0.19.2009).
Does your game version match the number of the stable build mentioned? :)
I am running 0.19.2009 ^
How about the mod order? You do have PC after Core, right?
Yeah, I troubleshooted with all my other mods, disabled all of them apart from core and PC, mod order has Core before PC
Edit: I've managed to fix it, the actual mod folder had core at the bottom instead of the top, so I reinstalled and put the mods back in with core being at the top, and it fixed it I guess. Sorry for any headaches I just caused
No problem, it happens. Glad you managed to get it working for you! ;D
I can see that you are working on GitHub, can you release a 1.0.1a version for us?
Will there ever be a way for us to define a "World" pawn as captive to/a runaway from a faction?
Quote from: andz on October 16, 2018, 12:21:35 PM
I can see that you are working on GitHub, can you release a 1.0.1a version for us?
Check https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
Ignore this Rah explained it it's not a bug for either mod. It was just me trying to spawn a pawn with to many Sythetic parts which is not allowed due to the adaption. So normal and can be avoided. I'm not deleting this post encase it helps other with same issue.
I am getting errors when adding certain bionic organs with Rah's Bionics and Surgery Expansion - 2.0 And Prepare Carefully 1.0. Here is the log. This is likely an issue with Prepare Carefully. But I'm posting on both forums just encase. I use other mods but I'm not sure if they are getting in the way. I may test this in a moment with only these two mods.
I get these errors as I am trying to start the game from within Prepare Carefully. The game will not start.
Error Log.
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/a403a17e12fa35d42a485e31c3f91149
Update:
It happens even with just these two mods. And load order does not matter.
To duplicate simply use EDB to add Synthetic Organs...I have not figured out what combination of organs does this. But if I add Stomach, Liver, Kidney, Lung and Heart all Synthetic it seems to happen every time. I wonder if it is technically killing the pawn due to the adaption time of some of the implants and thus error on game start.
If this can't be fixed as long as it's not hiding a bigger issue I think it can be avoided.
Updated: Resolved see red text at top of message.
I feel like this has probably been asked before, but is it possible to customize refugees/prisoners you recruit? I haven't been able to find a definitive answer anywhere.
Quote from: kimeXIV on October 20, 2018, 11:48:31 AM
I feel like this has probably been asked before, but is it possible to customize refugees/prisoners you recruit? I haven't been able to find a definitive answer anywhere.
I don't think you can using Prepare Carefully.
It's possible to do it by editting the savegame file using an editor like Notepad++. I wouldn't recommend doing it this way unless you have at least some working knowledge of XML and make a backup copy of your savegame.
Quote from: kimeXIV on October 20, 2018, 11:48:31 AM
I feel like this has probably been asked before, but is it possible to customize refugees/prisoners you recruit? I haven't been able to find a definitive answer anywhere.
Look for the ChangeMirror and ChangeDresser mods to fiddle around with the looks of other colonists outside of Prepare Carefully.
Sorry for the potentially obtuse question, but where in the game directory are characters/presets stored? I would assume they are saved as .xml files but I can't seem to find them that way.
[This is my first post on the forum, doesn't having verification for each reply seem a little overkill, at least for non-anonymous posting?]
Same area like the config/scenario's get stored.
Quote from: Canute on October 25, 2018, 04:25:40 AM
Same area like the config/scenario's get stored.
Sorry, I am still new to going "under the hood" with this game. What is the file or path I should be looking for? Thank you.
I don't know what OS version you are playing.
But if you use the windows version, at the option you got "Open saved data folder" which lead you to the area.
Quote from: Canute on October 25, 2018, 09:40:04 AM
I don't know what OS version you are playing.
But if you use the windows version, at the option you got "Open saved data folder" which lead you to the area.
Thanks, this helped a lot, I found it right away. I don't like things being stored in AppData or otherwise outside of the main game directory though, is there a way to re-configure it so that it stays within the game files?
You just can tell rimworld at whole to change the saved data location, but not a single mod.
Read the readme.txt at your rimworld install about the commandline parameters.
Quote from: 中村ジロウ on October 25, 2018, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Canute on October 25, 2018, 09:40:04 AM
I don't know what OS version you are playing.
But if you use the windows version, at the option you got "Open saved data folder" which lead you to the area.
Thanks, this helped a lot, I found it right away. I don't like things being stored in AppData or otherwise outside of the main game directory though, is there a way to re-configure it so that it stays within the game files?
There are directions for customizing data location in the readme in the main program folder.
Quote from: Canute on October 25, 2018, 11:16:43 AM
You just can tell rimworld at whole to change the saved data location, but not a single mod.
Read the readme.txt at your rimworld install about the commandline parameters.
Thank you. This should move all save locations for all mods as well, right?
Quote from: BlackSmokeDMax on October 25, 2018, 01:50:15 PM
There are directions for customizing data location in the readme in the main program folder.
So there are no in-game settings or options to change the save location? I have to run RimWorld either from a special shortcut or from cmd? Thank you.
Quote from: 中村ジロウ on October 25, 2018, 03:12:06 PM
Quote from: Canute on October 25, 2018, 11:16:43 AM
You just can tell rimworld at whole to change the saved data location, but not a single mod.
Read the readme.txt at your rimworld install about the commandline parameters.
Thank you. This should move all save locations for all mods as well, right?
Quote from: BlackSmokeDMax on October 25, 2018, 01:50:15 PM
There are directions for customizing data location in the readme in the main program folder.
So there are no in-game settings or options to change the save location? I have to run RimWorld either from a special shortcut or from cmd? Thank you.
Yep, just make a new shortcut with the proper parameter/location set at the end.
Quote from: BlackSmokeDMax on October 25, 2018, 03:16:04 PM
Yep, just make a new shortcut with the proper parameter/location set at the end.
It will work for now, but I am frankly astonished that a better way hasn't yet been implemented. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.
1.0?
Quote from: 中村ジロ on November 03, 2018, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: rambo on November 03, 2018, 02:44:05 PM
1.0?
B19 version works with 1.0
Based on my personal experience, the B19 version
does not work in 1.0 - an error message appears if you try pressing the Prepare Carefully button while setting up a new game.
There is a 1.0-compatible prerelease on GitHub:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
Quote from: sumghai on November 03, 2018, 07:24:10 PM
Based on my personal experience, the B19 version does not work in 1.0 - an error message appears if you try pressing the Prepare Carefully button while setting up a new game.
There is a 1.0-compatible prerelease on GitHub:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
My bad! I thought I had remembered having a 1.0 compatible version installed but I couldn't find it.
Good..
(https://www.robotance.com/)
So, i'm using the 1.0-compatible release that was posted above, encounter some weird result upon pod landing, some item were duplicated/double.
For instance if i add 10 plasteel blade, 10 HeavySMG, etc upon landing it become 20 plasteel blade, 20 HeavySMG.
Not sure what cause it, a conflict with another mod ? This is my first time using EdB mod.
I do try add just 9 blade, 9 HeavySMG, and upon landing it spawned the cirrect number.
So it seems i can't add more than 2 digit for certain item ?
I just tried it out.
got 10 of each
Bolt-action rifle
Revolver
Flak vest
Flak pant
add with that mod, then start the scenario.
After the drop box landed and anything spawn.
I got just 10 of each lay on ground.
I tried it again with 25 plasteel knifes, and after the drop i just got 25 knifes.
So i think it is some conflict with another mod you use.
But when you don't got any errors at the log, you can try to move the mod on top after the required libariers or at the end of the list.
If you got error's at the log, you should try to eliminate them first.
This is weird, i disable everything so there's only "Core", and EdB (v1.0.10) mod.
Didn't alter anything at all except for adding more quantity of some equipment.
(http://i.imgur.com/PTXrnVRm.png) (https://imgur.com/PTXrnVR)
But it still got me this result (20 Bolt rifles), even before landing:
(http://i.imgur.com/TLO3hkim.png) (https://imgur.com/TLO3hki)
Not every item get double, the revolver got duplicate into 12 instead:
(http://i.imgur.com/2jwAKu9m.png) (https://imgur.com/2jwAKu9)
Just a question.
Did you have any other mods before this mod before like Hugslib ?
I saw this mod still use the old harmony libary. I am not a modder so i don't know if that made a difference.
But just try to add Hugslib before EdB PC and check if that made a difference for you.
Is there a way to change the quality of the default equipment?
Even a simple text file that can be edited to change the quality of every item spawned at landing (say, from "Normal" to"Excellent") would be amazing.
EDIT: I also have the same bug as above - I get multiple copies of items.
Does anyone know why loading/saving characters on EdB messes up Facial Stuff?
Suddenly getting an error "Failed to initialize" even though it was working with no issues whatsoever less than a day ago and I have no clue how to fix it. Neither reinstalling nor isolating the mod helps. Is anyone else having a similar experience?
I would think one of your other mod's got an update or one of the new ones prevent now the use of EdB PC.
You should try if it still works when you only got EdB PC activated.
@Canute
Quote from: 中村ジロ on February 07, 2019, 02:31:54 AM
Neither reinstalling nor isolating the mod helps.
It doesn't work even if it is the only mod activated.
Sorry skiped the isolating part.
Mosttimes people just copy over the ziparchive and didn't delete the old mod folder, if you didn't do that, try that.
Maybe delete Core and reinstall rimworld too.
When that don't help the only last idea is to delete the Config folder (same area where the safegames are) and maybe "PrepareCarefully" folder but there are only the preset stored no settings.
With my both Rimworld version 2096 and 2150 the mod works without problems.
@Canute
Even when properly installed in the Mods folder it doesn't work. I tried reinstalling RimWorld a few times and that doesn't work either. Deleting the config folders also doesn't have an effect. Strangely enough no "PrepareCarefully" folder is generated though.
The "PrepareCarefully" folder only get generated when you safe your pawn with the mod, when you didn't safed any before, no folder exist.
About reinstalling, do you just uninstall and install it, or did you delete the old folders too before you installed it again ?
You wrote
"Suddenly getting an error "Failed to initialize""
You are sure you use the latest version and not the B19 version ?
Refering to this topic
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=47916.0
someone got the same error when he used the B19 version.
D'oh! Sorry about all the trouble. Yes, that was the problem. No clue how I missed that.
If you use edb prepare carefully test version for 1.0 you may notice some mods throw a "cannot initialize" when you try. I found if you keep clicking prepare carefully button while hitting enter repeatedly, it will eventually force you through and work just fine.
Theres news about 1.0??? :'(
Quote from: SansMasterBudaa :3 on March 01, 2019, 11:50:34 AM
Theres news about 1.0??? :'(
This is a working pre-release/test version of Prepare Carefully for RimWorld 1.0:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/tag/v1.0.10
Since EdB hasn't been on these forums since last September or updated that test version, is anyone else working on this mod?
Can i ask you, are you able to read or do you just able to write ?
If you would read a few posting back, you would notice there is a working version for 1.0
Just check the Github releases.
Sorry, perhaps I should have been clearer. The link above says "test release 1" and also in the notes by the author that there will be a full release later. To me, that means that the author was working on a better version, perhaps one where all of the bits of Prepare Carefully work correctly.
Since this forum shows that EdB has not logged in for 7 months and it has been almost 6 months for Steam, I feel that my question is valid. I am hoping that EdB has just been working too hard on life and there will perhaps be work on the full version they stated, sometime in the future. Or that someone else has been passed the torch and is completing the mod. Information either way would be nice to have.
Or the alternative, EdB retire from Rimworld modding.
I think the latest version that work for 1.0.2096 was he last work for Rimworld.
Looks like there's finally some movement. Check github.
Is edb compatible with alien humanoid framework? Cant generate world and its the only thing i can think of
Basicly yes, i allways could create my custom alien pawn's with EdB PC.
But that don't mean it can work with all races, maybe you use a race that isn't proper defined.
Just deactivate that race and try if you can create a new colony.
When it work, then the race don't work with Edb PC and you should report it to the author of the race.
But when it still don't work, some other mod cause it.
It seems like the Color Coded Mood Bar mod creates an incompatibility with EdB, found this out after extensively testing my 148 mod modpack.
With my custom crown types within one alien race, I get this warning from PC: Prepare Carefully could not find a head type for the graphic path: Equium/Heads/Male_Average_BlankHead for the pawn: Alien_Equium. Head type selection disabled for this pawn
If I can solve this problem then PC works otherwise broken.
Quote from: Canute on April 26, 2019, 02:25:07 AM
Basicly yes, i allways could create my custom alien pawn's with EdB PC.
But that don't mean it can work with all races, maybe you use a race that isn't proper defined.
Just deactivate that race and try if you can create a new colony.
When it work, then the race don't work with Edb PC and you should report it to the author of the race.
But when it still don't work, some other mod cause it.
hmmmm i think i got the problem. core/fluffys mod manager/edb/humanoid alien races/facial stuff. It seems its actually the latter that isnt playing well....even after adding the recommended alien faces patch in its front page. Its strange though, I can run a game with edb and facial stuff, or edb and humanoid alien framework,but not all 3 together.
Hmmm interesting response from edb last month. Looks like the problem also includes Psychology. Jeez all 4 of my essential mods xD
" Both the Facial Stuff and Psychology mods coded their integration with Prepare Carefully in a way that ties them to a specific version. If I ever release a new version, those mod authors have to recompile their mods against that new version, even if I didn't make any changes to the parts of Prepare Carefully with which they are integrating. There are other ways to code it on their end to avoid that problem (using a technique called "reflection", which admittedly is a kind of an annoying way to have to code it), but that's not the way it's done now.
ive looked at flipping the integration so that Prepare Carefully is integrating with them instead of the other way around, but to do that, I have to copy code that belongs to their mods into Prepare Carefully. If I do that, I would have to maintain that code moving forward. If they change something on their end, I have to do updates on my end--it flips the problem, and I don't know if I want to take ownership of that. If those mods really are no longer being developed, maybe that ends up not being a real problem. Let me consider it."
How does Prepare Carefully work with RunTime GC? Are World Pawns deemed as unnecessary and wiped out when you run the clean-up?
This mod only work's on the colony generation.
Basicly after you started your colony you could deactivate it.
While RunTimeGC only works during gameplay. Mosttimes it delete dead world pawns you have no chance to rescurect anyway.
So there is no point of interaction between these mods so far i see.
When you got problems with RunTimeGC that it delete important pawns, you should maybe mention this to that mod author.
Hey guys I don't mod often and I downloaded version 0.19 of this mod but my game says it's not compatible, my game is version 1.0.2231, which version of the mod can I get? I'm a little slow with these things... sorry > n <
Hi,
this forum post didn't got updated lately. There is a 1.0 version of the mod at github.
And the forum link just point straight at the B19 version and not at the releases.
Just take a look at releases:
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases
before i wasnt able to run this with facial stuff or alien framework. but now it seems facial stuff and psychology arent compatible?
Quote from: Ruisuki on July 16, 2019, 04:28:19 PM
before i wasnt able to run this with facial stuff or alien framework. but now it seems facial stuff and psychology arent compatible?
Take a look on the workshop page at the note about Facial Stuff, Psychology and similar mods:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=735106432
Quote from: EdB on July 28, 2019, 04:09:08 PM
Quote from: Ruisuki on July 16, 2019, 04:28:19 PM
before i wasnt able to run this with facial stuff or alien framework. but now it seems facial stuff and psychology arent compatible?
Take a look on the workshop page at the note about Facial Stuff, Psychology and similar mods:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=735106432
Nice Nice...Ive been holding off playing rimworld again because psych and PC have ruined me and I will not play without them anymore lol. I will try out the RIMMSAssemble mod as you suggested and hopefully i can run them all. Will report back
Hello friend, yes it appears the problems with facial stuff are gone. The smiley customize appearance icon is no longer gone when clicking the prepare carefully tab. The same goes for the psychology icon. Not bad. I have yet to add alien races to my colony but it appears your suggestion proved successful
yes so far ive noticed no problem doing the same. only thing is when loading a character or preset group the facial hair(facial stuff) is wrong. Had my clean shaven colonists sporting different beards. Other than that pants and non torso clothing didnt show as equipped (on rpg inventory) though hats were
I can't even imagine myself playing without this mod. ;) ;) ;)
What happened to color sliders for clothes and armor? I used to be able to manually set these. Now whenever I load a preset the colors are randomised, even when the pawn is wearing something not made out of cloth (like a devilstrand jacket that shows up as blue). Mod conflict, bug or working as intended?
Hey guys! ???
As you can see, everything is fine in my game, but I don't have the option to customize the characters! :-\
(https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/images/002/369/526/original/EDB-Report1.png?1569280325)
(https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/images/002/369/529/original/EDB-Report2.png?1569280405)
What can I do ? ???
d00d just click the small smiley icon that you can see on your screenshots during preperations
Quote from: MozartF on September 23, 2019, 07:14:10 PM
Hey guys! ???
As you can see, everything is fine in my game, but I don't have the option to customize the characters! :-\
(https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/images/002/369/526/original/EDB-Report1.png?1569280325)
(https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/images/002/369/529/original/EDB-Report2.png?1569280405)
What can I do ? ???
Quote from: Kaelen Mosar on September 23, 2019, 08:46:46 PM
d00d just click the small smiley icon that you can see on your screenshots during preperations
Quote from: MozartF on September 23, 2019, 07:14:10 PM
Hey guys! ???
As you can see, everything is fine in my game, but I don't have the option to customize the characters! :-\
(https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/images/002/369/526/original/EDB-Report1.png?1569280325)
(https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/images/002/369/529/original/EDB-Report2.png?1569280405)
What can I do ? ???
Sorry, you didn't understand. It's not the same, It's missing the "prepare carefully" button, with it, you even edit clothes (including material and colors), age, personality traits, diseases and scars, saves presets, creates bonds between characters, decides your start resources and animals, you have a HUGE customization range, which in my case is currently lost. The smiley icon just let you see the look of your characters :/
How did you install this mod ? Workshop or manual ?
When you did it manual, could you please check the file structure.
At the mod folder you should see the folder About,Defs and important Assemblies.
Did you use the latest version ?
If anything is installed correct, you can try to move this mod at the end and/or near the top of the modlist.
Maybe other mod interfere with it.
If you still got problems, maybe a logfile would be handy.
Use the green "share logs" button at the log window, or press CTRL-F12 and post the link.
Quote from: Canute on September 25, 2019, 02:56:04 PM
How did you install this mod ? Workshop or manual ?
When you did it manual, could you please check the file structure.
At the mod folder you should see the folder About,Defs and important Assemblies.
Did you use the latest version ?
If anything is installed correct, you can try to move this mod at the end and/or near the top of the modlist.
Maybe other mod interfere with it.
If you still got problems, maybe a logfile would be handy.
Use the green "share logs" button at the log window, or press CTRL-F12 and post the link.
Manual, and I'ts the last version, both, EDBPC and HugsLib...
I already tried to move the MOD in the list, already checked the files in the folder ... I will take u a print of the logfile, but it seems that the steam community is having the same problem, and so far without solutions. take a look...
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/735106432/2828702372997571711/
:-\ :'(
You are geting the same error ?
QuoteFailed to patch the game code as needed for Prepare Carefully. There was an unexpected exception.
Maybe you should post a logfile, the green "Share log" button prefered, that include the modlist too.
Look's like another mod try to patch this mod.
Quote from: Canute on September 27, 2019, 03:31:11 AM
You are geting the same error ?
QuoteFailed to patch the game code as needed for Prepare Carefully. There was an unexpected exception.
Maybe you should post a logfile, the green "Share log" button prefered, that include the modlist too.
Look's like another mod try to patch this mod.
Yes, I have the same error...
Failed to patch the game code as needed for Prepare Carefully. There was an unexpected exception.
at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Reflection.Assembly:GetTypes (bool)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.GetTypes () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Harmony.AccessTools+<>c.<TypeByName>b__1_0 (System.Reflection.Assembly x) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Linq.Enumerable+<CreateSelectManyIterator>c__Iterator12`2[System.Reflection.Assembly,System.Type].MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Linq.Enumerable.First[Type] (IEnumerable`1 source, System.Func`2 predicate, Fallback fallback) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Linq.Enumerable.FirstOrDefault[Type] (IEnumerable`1 source, System.Func`2 predicate) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Harmony.AccessTools.TypeByName (System.String name) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.HarmonyPatches..cctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Verse.Log:Warning(String, Boolean)
EdB.PrepareCarefully.HarmonyPatches:.cctor()
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.RuntimeHelpers:RunClassConstructor(IntPtr)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.RuntimeHelpers:RunClassConstructor(RuntimeTypeHandle)
Verse.StaticConstructorOnStartupUtility:CallAll()
Verse.PlayDataLoader:<DoPlayLoad>m__2()
Verse.LongEventHandler:ExecuteToExecuteWhenFinished()
Verse.LongEventHandler:UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent()
Verse.LongEventHandler:LongEventsUpdate(Boolean&)
Verse.Root:Update_Patch1(Object)
Verse.Root_Entry:Update()
Depend where this mod is at your modlist, try to move it at the end or at close at the beginning of the modlist, and check if that helps.
Alternativ try to find which mod try to patch PrepareCarefully.
You can try to look into each mod folder, into the patch folder for a PrepareCarefully entry.
Points Limit bug? Basically, when using the points limit, it seems to rely on whatever colonists were loaded in from the previous page. Changing the colonists within the Prepare Carefully menu won't change these default points. Example:
I load a Preset that has previously been at 0 on a prior colony. It is now at -1928. I then back out, randomize one or more colonists in the vanilla colonist window, return to the PC window... and now they are at 1252.
It kind of makes the Points Limit... arbitrary and not a great indicator of if you're making a super overpowered initial starting colony that wouldn't be possible without PC. Suppose it's not a huge deal, given that using PC is rather cheaty anyway... But I like cheating within limits. :P
You are aware that the clothing are randomized too ?
And even without PC, you can use the scenario editor to made a powerful starting colony too.
Ok you don't have pawn finetuning like at PC but still possible.
Quote from: Canute on November 07, 2019, 03:16:21 PM
You are aware that the clothing are randomized too ?
And even without PC, you can use the scenario editor to made a powerful starting colony too.
Ok you don't have pawn finetuning like at PC but still possible.
Yeah, but the clothing in my preset doesn't change. Everything in the preset is exactly as it always is, the only change is in whatever colonists I start with in the original screen. Going back and randomizing in the start screen can change those numbers, going back to the seed to have it randomize everything will make the numbers change drastically. It's weird.
And yeah, you can make a powerful starting colony without PC. I originally wasn't going to use that part of PC, but then realized spending a fair bit of time randomizing to get a good mix of skills was dumb when I can get the same result with less time. But I still like the concept of a Points Limit to prevent me from going overboard, so I thought I'd mention it's a little bit buggy/inconsistent.
I seem to have an issue in compatibility, and I'm unable to determine which mod's the problem, as I'm a noobie in these things. So i installed the More Traits/Traits Expanded by TheFlameTouched, in which post he said that it's normal for the mod to warn you about uncompatibility. So i go aight lezgo, and launch the game. Everything's fine, can normally run the game, as long as I don't press Prepare Carefully. When i do so, everything's normal, but the trait system is broken. You can't add a single trait (there is no 'add' button, and there's only 6 traits, although the mod adds 53) nor am I able to switch traits by the arrows next to the trait name. If i do so a few times, half the screen dissappears (the skills part and the traits part). I believe it's because of incompatibility, and I'm here to inform. My mods are: Dubs Break Mod, EdB Prepare Carefully, While you're up, Aparello 2, Xeva's Rimhair. All was fine until i loaded the Traits Expanded. Please fix or explain. Going on the Traits Expanded mod to post the same thing, have a nice day :)
My traits don't seem to work either, I keep getting these errors in the log:
Quote
Mouse position stack is not empty. There were more calls to BeginScrollView than EndScrollView. Fixing.
Verse.Log:Error(String, Boolean)
Verse.Widgets:EnsureMousePositionStackEmpty()
Verse.Root:Update_Patch1(Object)
Verse.Root_Entry:Update()
Quote
Exception filling window for EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Options`1[RimWorld.Trait]: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at RimWorld.StatModifier.get_ValueToStringAsOffset () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.Trait.TipString (Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PanelTraits.GetTraitTip (RimWorld.Trait trait, EdB.PrepareCarefully.CustomPawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.PanelTraits+<>c__DisplayClass32_0.<DrawPanelContent>b__4 (RimWorld.Trait t) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at EdB.PrepareCarefully.Dialog_Options`1[RimWorld.Trait].DoWindowContents (Rect inRect) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.Window+<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0.<>m__0 (Int32 x) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Verse.Log:Error(String, Boolean)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0:<>m__0(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)
Gurrnt,
since you didn't include the whole log/modlist you should try to move this mod at the end of the modlist, or when it is allready near the end on top.
So it is behind or before mod's that add traits or other stuff.
Not every mod will work well together with EdB PC.
I hate to necro but is this compatible with the newest version? This mod has always been a must for me
Quote from: cintron on February 26, 2020, 05:56:47 PM
I hate to necro but is this compatible with the newest version? This mod has always been a must for me
https://github.com/edbmods/EdBPrepareCarefully/releases/
Nice, new version released, pls update title!
After i manage implants and bionics in beginning, after landing not see it. What i do wrong?
Zhmur,
maybe not the latest version if you installed the mod manualy.
Maybe implants from a mod that cause problems or is imcompactible with PC.
I tried it with vanilla bionics and from RBSE, and both worked.
Quote from: Canute on April 27, 2020, 04:29:13 PM
Zhmur,
maybe not the latest version if you installed the mod manualy.
Maybe implants from a mod that cause problems or is imcompactible with PC.
I tried it with vanilla bionics and from RBSE, and both worked.
Installed from steam workshop, not manualy, just my first try change organs.
Try add mutated organs + bionics, maybe some mod add bug.
Thnx!
IT is working??
Ofcourse !
this will be perfect when paired with the reunion mod. id been waiting for something like this for years, essential mods at this point
Add on: how about an option to sort available pawns per points?
Quote from: alexo on April 29, 2020, 01:59:52 PM
IT is working??
Not for me it aint!
NEW INSTALL, NEW APPDATA folder: I have the latest version (1.1.2624) with only Harmony (2.0.0.8 ) then Core then Hugslib (7.2.0) thenEdB Prepare Carefully (1.1.9) loaded. No button. No errors. What now?
Steps to reproduce: run a fresh install (and fresh app data local low folder) on windows 10, load mod order as mentioned above, click New colony, naked brutality, next, click savage & reload anytime, next, 5% coverage, generate, select random site, next. Enjoy your lack of the Prepare Carefully button.
I see no logs to give you. But adding Jecs tools (in case it's a dependency now) doesn't help & breaks the debug actions.
for 1.1.2618 it is working fine.
So either the devs changed something at the newer rimworld version or your installation of the mod is borked.
For me it works fine in 1.1.2624. It might be something specific to win10. But I would firstly suspect something wrong with your installation or downloads, especially mentioning that JecsTools also work incorrectly. Could it be that you have cleared appdata folder after installation rather than before it? Or assumed that loading order is from bottom to top rather than top to bottom? Or it's Steam version tries to still use mods from other location than you think it should? Chances are low, of course, but it won't hurt to check.
And you can find your log in \AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld by Ludeon Studios\Player.log, hopefully it'll help more.
Is there any chance of having menu for changing pawn hair(maybe clothes and other layers) like in facial stuff?
you can do that in game too with facial stuff just use the furtniter
Quote from: Monzer on June 03, 2020, 09:08:59 PM
you can do that in game too with facial stuff just use the furtniter
furtniter?
and anyway to play with this and RJW?
So it this compatible with the 1.2 update? Anyone tried it out?
1.1 version works fine for me in 1.2
Same, I've been using the 1.1 version in 1.2 without any errors.
Why is there still a link to the outdated version 1.0.13 in the forum and not to version 1.1?
You can only get to 1.1 via Google search:
https://rimworldbase.com/prepare-carefully-mod/
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Because some modder are lazy and don't support the forum less and less.
And why you don't use RimPy and download it from the workshop (works without steam account) ?
I have the GOG-Version and the Homepage-Version from the Alphatime. I don't use Steam. ;-)
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It seems the Harmony version I currently have and EDB are having issues.
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Error in static constructor of EdB.PrepareCarefully.HarmonyPatches: System.TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'EdB.PrepareCarefully.HarmonyPatches' threw an exception. ---> System.TypeLoadException: Could not resolve type with token 01000070 (from typeref, class/assembly Harmony.HarmonyInstance, 0Harmony, Version=1.2.0.1, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null)
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.RuntimeHelpers.RunClassConstructor(intptr)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.RuntimeHelpers.RunClassConstructor (System.RuntimeTypeHandle type) [0x0002a] in <567df3e0919241ba98db88bec4c6696f>:0
at Verse.StaticConstructorOnStartupUtility.CallAll () [0x0001a] in <3e1289500084499a81871418c4778349>:0
Verse.Log:Error(String, Boolean)
Verse.StaticConstructorOnStartupUtility:CallAll()
Verse.<>c:<DoPlayLoad>b__4_2()
Verse.LongEventHandler:ExecuteToExecuteWhenFinished()
Verse.LongEventHandler:UpdateCurrentAsynchronousEvent()
Verse.LongEventHandler:LongEventsUpdate(Boolean&)
Verse.Root:Verse.Root.Update_Patch1(Root)
Verse.Root_Entry:Update()
]
Want to ask if I may.
Runing the RImworld 1.1.2654
Downloaded EdB Prepare Carefully the previous version that is for 1.1
I put it to load this mod right after Harmony and Core and that Monarchy DLC and Huglib.
I do not know if it is normal but during Prepare of my pawns I am not able to edit the beards only hair and clothes etc.
But beards I can only edit when I go out of Prepare Carefully and use the Smiley ICON that is in the base game with some random pawns generated for me.
Is this normal and the beard option should no be avalaible in Prepare Carefully mod ?
EDIT: Ok I just found on reddit that there is some issue with Facial Stuff and Psychology that I am using too but put them after the Prepare Carefully in loading order. But I built a mirror to change appearal and somehow there is still no option for beard customization.
any updates for 1.2? :) :)
Many modder left the forum or rimworld completly.
So you allways should check the steam workshop about the mod and the mod discussion if a 1.1 version works for 1.2 or someone else update the mod.
In this case the workshop got a 1.2 version.
If you don't use the steam version you should read
How to download workshop mod's as non-steam user.
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=52498.0
Oh mighty EdB, what offering must we make to see this most wonderful of mods updated for the new 1.3 Ideaology release?
Silliness aside, I do hope this gets updated, as it's still one of the few mods I love to use to start a game. Either way, thanks for the work you've done with it, Ed!
Just saw Ed's update on the Steam Workshop page that a 1.3 version for Prepare Carefully is currently in progress.
Thanks again Ed, best mod around!
Please preapre thism od faster. It is essential in any RW installation!
Hi first off i wanted to thank you for the awsome mod you made it has made my rimworld game much more fun to play
i wanted to ask if there is a fix for my problem ?
i have gotten the mode for the newest version and i have installed it and the "edb prepare carefully" button appears but when i press it it says that "it doesn't work with other mods" i have but i don't have any other mods installed and im really bummed out cause i enjoyed the mod so much that now the game it self isn't as fun without it sadly
so is there any fix for it or im stuck like this ?
Snow81,
the author isn't very active at the forum anymore.
A few question:
- where do you get the mod ? Steam workshop or github ?
- could you maybe post a logfile ? After you pressed the Prepare Carefully button !
Maybe just add hugslib to your modlist and press the Share log button at the log window and post the link. But the regular player.log works too (options for file attachment are only visible when you use the Reply button).
I think my prepare carefully items are spawning in the new colony formed when I begin the second part of the archonexus quest in Ideology expansion. Anyone else notice this?