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Title: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: eatKenny on December 28, 2014, 07:26:40 AM

Note: this mod will not be updated, you can fine all content in my new mod Industrialisation (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=8902.0)





Adds concrete as a construction material, more HP but harder to build. Beauty 0
you can produce concrete from concrete mixer, cost 1 stone chunk and 1 steel, produce standard 8 concrete.
reseach "concrete production" to unlock concrete mixer

hotfix: you can now use the mod for your saved games ;D


(http://i59.tinypic.com/20ayk47.jpg)


DOWNLOAD:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mj9v5vbumnstclv/Concrete%20Obsession.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mj9v5vbumnstclv/Concrete%20Obsession.rar?dl=0)

you can download from attachment too.

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Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: eternalglory on December 28, 2014, 07:52:10 AM
Very nice idea!

But I think "Stonecutting research complete -> concrete research open" is perfect ..

Why we use stone block, cause it is strong and resonable price than steel.

Immediate researching concrete makes stone block useless
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: eatKenny on December 28, 2014, 07:54:51 AM
Quote from: eternalglory on December 28, 2014, 07:52:10 AM
Very nice idea!

But i think research first..

I think "Stonecutting research complete -> concrete research open" is perfect ..

Why we use stone block, cause it is strong and resonable price than steel.

No researching immediate concrete makes stone block useless

oh i forgot to mention, there is a research called: concrete production(no need to reseach stonecutting though :P)
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: eatKenny on December 28, 2014, 08:15:28 AM
Quote from: eternalglory on December 28, 2014, 07:52:10 AM
Immediate researching concrete makes stone block useless
1. you don't need steel to produce stoneblocks
2. from 1 stone chunk you got more stoneblocks than concrete
3. concrete takes more time to produce
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: Igabod on December 28, 2014, 08:33:19 AM
Nice idea. How does it compare in beauty though? One would expect it to be at least a 0 on beauty if not a -1 or something.
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: eatKenny on December 28, 2014, 08:34:30 AM
Quote from: Igabod on December 28, 2014, 08:33:19 AM
Nice idea. How does it compare in beauty though? One would expect it to be at least a 0 on beauty if not a -1 or something.
it's 0  ;D
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: Patrykbono20 on December 28, 2014, 09:14:10 AM
need new game ?
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: Igabod on December 28, 2014, 09:21:26 AM
nope, it doesn't replace anything, just adds stuff. Should be fine to use on current saves unless he did something that's not mentioned in the original post.
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: llunauk on December 28, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
I like what you have done here!  I think though that Concrete shouldn't really use Steel but if you added "Reinforced Concrete" then Steel would definitely be a part of that! :D
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: eatKenny on December 28, 2014, 09:32:41 AM
Quote from: Patrykbono20 on December 28, 2014, 09:14:10 AM
need new game ?
for now it seems need to start a new game, i will look into it
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: Vaperius on December 28, 2014, 10:09:44 AM
Not to bust a nut over this but...concrete itself does not contain metal.

Lots of different types but one common mixture is limestone + aggregates of other stone + water. What you can do is just make the concrete mixed as limestone+sandstone for example as one type of concrete wall + add research for it if you haven't for concrete wall but then add also Reinforced concrete wall research... (wall stronger but requires "rebar" so therefore metal increased cost etc) .....k
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: eatKenny on December 28, 2014, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: Vaperius on December 28, 2014, 10:09:44 AM
Not to bust a nut over this but...concrete itself does not contain metal.

Lots of different types but one common mixture is limestone + aggregates of other stone + water. What you can do is just make the concrete mixed as limestone+sandstone for example as one type of concrete wall + add research for it if you haven't for concrete wall but then add also Reinforced concrete wall research... (wall stronger but requires "rebar" so therefore metal increased cost etc) .....k
acctually i was trying to make it as Reinforced concrete, however because stuff system i can't make it cost extra steel while building the wall(unless i made a new wall type which i think is not necessary for a basic mod like this), so i made it cost steel while producing the concrete.

but thanks for point it out, if i decide to make the mod more detailed i will consider the idea.
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession
Post by: eatKenny on December 28, 2014, 10:44:51 AM
fixed the black screen problem while loading saved games ;D
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: NoImageAvailable on December 28, 2014, 04:18:30 PM
Minor nitpick but it would be better if it used a smooth texture instead of the regular wall, since I've never seen a wall made of concrete bricks.
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: harpo99999 on December 28, 2014, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: NoImageAvailable on December 28, 2014, 04:18:30 PM
Minor nitpick but it would be better if it used a smooth texture instead of the regular wall, since I've never seen a wall made of concrete bricks.
just did a quick google for you, here is a picture of a concrete brick wall
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pvmconcrete.com%2Fimages%2Fwork_photo_72107010.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pvmconcrete.com%2Fblockwalls.html&h=1704&w=2272&tbnid=xf5dtuXXMhVOiM%3A&zoom=1&docid=jMujLL2gI0GwBM&ei=IYOgVNnSHoPz8gWw_YL4BQ&tbm=isch&ved=0CCAQMygDMAM&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=895&page=1&start=0&ndsp=28
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: Match on December 28, 2014, 05:31:14 PM
Quote from: harpo99999 on December 28, 2014, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: NoImageAvailable on December 28, 2014, 04:18:30 PM
Minor nitpick but it would be better if it used a smooth texture instead of the regular wall, since I've never seen a wall made of concrete bricks.
just did a quick google for you, here is a picture of a concrete brick wall
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pvmconcrete.com%2Fimages%2Fwork_photo_72107010.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pvmconcrete.com%2Fblockwalls.html&h=1704&w=2272&tbnid=xf5dtuXXMhVOiM%3A&zoom=1&docid=jMujLL2gI0GwBM&ei=IYOgVNnSHoPz8gWw_YL4BQ&tbm=isch&ved=0CCAQMygDMAM&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=895&page=1&start=0&ndsp=28

That actually looks quite pretty
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: eatKenny on December 28, 2014, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: NoImageAvailable on December 28, 2014, 04:18:30 PM
Minor nitpick but it would be better if it used a smooth texture instead of the regular wall, since I've never seen a wall made of concrete bricks.
i used the wood wall texture for this, because a lot of concrete wall use wood planks as formwork thus giving the concrete wall a similar texture.

(http://14textures.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Concretewithstrips-1024x682.jpg)
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: harpo99999 on December 28, 2014, 06:08:13 PM
another form of formwork (used to support the concrete while it sets) is plywood or metal sheets, or even(for really cheap jobs) mdf sheets as the mdfs are basically single use while the timber plywood and metal are multi-use
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: NoImageAvailable on December 28, 2014, 06:12:21 PM
Quote from: harpo99999 on December 28, 2014, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: NoImageAvailable on December 28, 2014, 04:18:30 PM
Minor nitpick but it would be better if it used a smooth texture instead of the regular wall, since I've never seen a wall made of concrete bricks.
just did a quick google for you, here is a picture of a concrete brick wall
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pvmconcrete.com%2Fimages%2Fwork_photo_72107010.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pvmconcrete.com%2Fblockwalls.html&h=1704&w=2272&tbnid=xf5dtuXXMhVOiM%3A&zoom=1&docid=jMujLL2gI0GwBM&ei=IYOgVNnSHoPz8gWw_YL4BQ&tbm=isch&ved=0CCAQMygDMAM&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=895&page=1&start=0&ndsp=28

Let me specify: I have never seen a wall made of reinforced concrete bricks (since that is what the mod uses).
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: Evul on December 28, 2014, 06:13:48 PM
Weary nice!
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: millenium on December 29, 2014, 11:14:01 AM
nice idea.
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: lude on December 29, 2014, 02:49:13 PM
Nice, will be using this from now on. :3
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: Loki88 on December 30, 2014, 04:18:55 PM
I really like this mod :)

I did a minor addition to this mod though because I found it ironic to have concrete in the game now and have two types of concrete floor made out of steel :P Paved Tiles and Concrete floors are now made with concrete. The concrete floors also got a minor speed boost because I found their vanilla description of "fast to walk on" misleading when they're the same speed as the other floors (they get an 8% boost over vanilla)

If you want to use it feel free, if not... well darn...

PS: this seems to be old save compatible but when loaded all of my existing paved tiles and concrete were gone (it didn't crash though  :) ) If anybody has a fix for that let me know as this is the first thing I've done that resembles modding.

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Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: eatKenny on December 31, 2014, 05:23:51 AM
Quote from: Loki88 on December 30, 2014, 04:18:55 PM
I really like this mod :)

I did a minor addition to this mod though because I found it ironic to have concrete in the game now and have two types of concrete floor made out of steel :P Paved Tiles and Concrete floors are now made with concrete. The concrete floors also got a minor speed boost because I found their vanilla description of "fast to walk on" misleading when they're the same speed as the other floors (they get an 8% boost over vanilla)

If you want to use it feel free, if not... well darn...

PS: this seems to be old save compatible but when loaded all of my existing paved tiles and concrete were gone (it didn't crash though  :) ) If anybody has a fix for that let me know as this is the first thing I've done that resembles modding.

thanks for the idea, i'd like to add it to the next update if you don't mind.
Title: Re: [MOD] (Alpha 8) Concrete Obsession (hotfix!!!)
Post by: Loki88 on December 31, 2014, 07:35:40 AM
Quote from: eatKenny on December 31, 2014, 05:23:51 AM
Quote from: Loki88 on December 30, 2014, 04:18:55 PM
I really like this mod :)

I did a minor addition to this mod though because I found it ironic to have concrete in the game now and have two types of concrete floor made out of steel :P Paved Tiles and Concrete floors are now made with concrete. The concrete floors also got a minor speed boost because I found their vanilla description of "fast to walk on" misleading when they're the same speed as the other floors (they get an 8% boost over vanilla)

If you want to use it feel free, if not... well darn...

PS: this seems to be old save compatible but when loaded all of my existing paved tiles and concrete were gone (it didn't crash though  :) ) If anybody has a fix for that let me know as this is the first thing I've done that resembles modding.

thanks for the idea, i'd like to add it to the next update if you don't mind.
Go for it. I kinda figured it would get added in eventually, I just lack patients :P