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#1
Quote from: Morgloz on July 27, 2016, 01:27:37 PM
1. Right now ducts try to equalize the temperature of the room and the temperature of the network. They have a max rate at which they work however, so it is possible to need more outlets to achieve that equalization.

Roger. Will try that.

Quote2. Since they equalize temperatures it's possible to heat and cool with one network, as long as you keep the network at your target temperature.

Hrm having issues with this but looking at the vid and whatnot it seems this might be easier just using upper [cool] and lower [hot] or something. If you add the feature to make smart vents tie to BOTH upper/lower as you had mentioned elsewhere, that would make this super easy and compact.

Quote3. Technically you can make them as big as you want, but I recommend you to build smaller subnets and connect them with rooms.

Good to know. :)

Quote4. Exhaust ports do not care if you vent the heat of the room they generate it, but take into consideration that the if the room is small enough, it can reach very high temperatures, which can affect the temperature of the room you are trying to cool down through the walls.

Heat goes through walls? Hrm. I think I'll just either treat it like a real HVAC and exhaust outside or maybe tie exhaust to a "heat" network.

Quote5. They cool the air in the network and generate heat in the room they are in, but like the exhaust ports, they don't care if you vent that heat or not.

Ah ok. Seems they have to be inline with ducts full too? IE:   DDXDD where D is duct and X is the cooler? Or can you hang them on the end, ie DX ?

Last bit... in O's video he makes a room and uses a port to feed the ducts. Can you just hook ducts up to the industrial cooler / furnace or does that not work? Also can I attach ducts to the exhaust ports on industrial cooler? From a mod perspective, if they *do* connect it would be nice to see some sort of indication they are connected if that is possible? Might clear up some connection bits for folks. The vents are much more obvious since you have to connect upper/lower toggle button which is why I wondered if the ducts *actually* connect to the industrial bits.


QuoteI will gladly accept any guide you make, and I will work to improve the info of the mod.

I'll muck with it some more and put something together. Hopefully help folks figure things out easier and less questions for you, well, assuming they actually read the guide or watch O's video. :)


Cheers!
#2
Quote from: cliffahead on July 26, 2016, 10:37:48 AM
small cooler cannot be placed. medium heater is not working even after i set the temp to -40 degrees. all my food is gone =(

Hoping you typo'd but you don't want to place a heater in your freezer. You'll want to also keep an eye on rooms when you first set them up to make sure they actually reach desired temperature the same way you do with vanilla heat/cool items. Large enough rooms need multiple coolers just like in vanilla.
#3
Some questions I had as I try to sort this out in my head after messing around with the mod in dev mode...

1. Duct temperature is the absolute lowest [or highest] temp you can get a room? For example if a duct temp is 50F then you can possibly get a room down to 50F assuming the duct has enough cooling behind it to handle the temperature? I'm assuming you use the volume of a room meaning  a 3x3 hooked to a 50F line with a smart duct will most likely be 50F whereas a 20x20 room hooked to a 50F line may NOT actually hit 50F if there's not enough coolers feeding the duct network?

2. How do I handle hot and cold on same network or is that not possible? Say I want "70F all year round"... its 100F in summer so I need cooling but its 30F in winter so I need heat. Do I need to run like.. upper duct for cooling and lower duct for heat hooked to appropriate cool/heat units? Seems cooling/furnace fight eachother if both on same line. Assuming this to be true, I'd need two smart vents per room? [one upper, one lower]

3. How big can duct networks be? If I have a giant base can I use one network assuming I put enough coolers / furnaces on it?

4. On industrial coolers what is the proper way to use the exhaust ports? They connect fine but should they open to the outside or a duct leading to a vent outside or some other configuration for optimum use? I put my cooler units outside to deal with the heat they generate but that seems less than ideal. Can I run ducts from the exhaust ports to the outside and put outlets on them or is there some other better way?

5. Duct coolers are just small cooling units correct? Any special placement for optimum usage?

Sorry for all the questions but figure some of those answers can fit into the general usage as well so people like me will stop asking you. Maybe. :)

Screenshots of some common sample setups might help alleviate a bunch of questions too.

Once I get it figured out I can write up a little guide on Steam to reference people to if you like and include screenshots.

Cheers!