Quote from: Names are for the Weak on June 29, 2017, 01:35:49 AM
I wish I were the strongest man in the world.
Granted. Hopefully you won't feel too lonely with nobody else in it, though.
I wish to crack open a cold one with the boys
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I wish I were the strongest man in the world.
Quote from: milon on June 27, 2017, 02:05:41 PM
If we ban political discussions, then it's because we think it's doesn't need to be discussed (or at least, not here). If we think we don't need to talk about it here, it's because we think it's unimportant. If we think it's unimportant, it's because it has no impact on us personally. And if it has no impact on us personally, it's because we're both privileged and disconnected from the non-privileged. And I think that's unacceptable for any community of people.
Quote from: DaemonDeathAngel on June 28, 2017, 07:48:28 PM
Not at all, because if you have an obscenely retarded opinion, I tend to drop the discussion, or ignore you, specifically when it pertains to polotics or religion.
Quote from: Fluffy (l2032) on June 26, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
Given that the subject of politics more often than not leads to a discussion with neither end nor merit, it's much simpler for everyone involved to just blanket ban political discussions. There are many forums on the internet devoted to these discussions, and gaming forums aren't (or at least shouldn't be) one of them.
Quote from: DaemonDeathAngel on June 28, 2017, 06:59:10 PM
This entire thing boils down to this. If you cant keep your cool, and refrain from being a whiney little asshat when someone else has a differing opinion from you, then you need to leave the internet, or society in general, until a point which you can be respectful of others rights to their own opinions, and can have an open discussion involving somethig which effects everyone, calmly.
Be an adult, not an entitled little nancy boy/girl/what ever the fuck you are.
Quote from: Kegereneku on June 28, 2017, 06:14:24 PM
Do you really want us to count and classify topic which do not have a explicit relation to
a)video game
b)Rimworld/Ludeon
c)Ludeon game
Here? Isn't it the whole point of an OFF-TOPIC forum?
Quote from: Kegereneku on June 28, 2017, 06:14:24 PM
Private Message do not let new persons join in the discussion and doesn't let other people just read it and learn new point of view. That's why we create all sort of topic here and ignore all other topics that do not interest ourselves like we do all the time.
But if you still notice a problem to difficult to ignore? Well yes the Report function is useful, in fact I would say it's all that's needed:
Step one: Identify the problem making you annoyed by (say) political discussion
Step two: click report, explaining concisely the reason it make you want to quit the forum
Step three: Let the Moderator decide if there's something wrong.
I did it myself, and it did work. I would do it again but from me it might look biased.
Quote from: Kegereneku on June 28, 2017, 05:01:38 PM
Just like there is lot of difference between what "political discussion" people will agree to seebannedmoderated away and what they will find frustrating to not be able to mention.
Quote from: Kegereneku on June 28, 2017, 05:01:38 PMReport function is useful here to direct their attention where it's due. And if these rational people want to discuss politics, then there's always PM's and other forums where they can do that.
Moderators don't have the time to check if any discussion is getting too political and if they did it would risk being too overbearing, leading to complaint if no one can't even discuss the news between person who are mature and rational enough to appreciate it.
Quote from: mumblemumble on June 28, 2017, 04:56:01 PM
I cannot find the exact thing he said, but it never indicates he was threatening of inciting violence, just "hatred". Seems to me like he was arrested for criticizing Islam, but if you want to cite any sources saying this dude said otherwise... go ahead.
Quote from: DaemonDeathAngel on June 28, 2017, 06:16:42 AM
I would like to state, WoW administrators dont give two shits about political discussion. Have you ever payed attention to trade chat for any length of time? Give it 10 to 20 minutes tops, and theres a political argument, nothing comes of it
Quote from: Kegereneku on June 28, 2017, 03:10:00 PM
Discussing politic isn't bad, letting some person believe it mean "I can call for hate against people I don't like", that is bad.
Quote from: Kegereneku on June 28, 2017, 03:10:00 PM
You do not want to discourage someone making a topic about a Game with politically oriented context (or say criticizing a game for its cheap/bad use of politics)
Quote from: Kegereneku on June 28, 2017, 03:10:00 PM
The Moderator have the same jobs as always, no matter the topic: keep the discussion civil and fun for everybody.
Quote from: Kegereneku on June 26, 2017, 06:33:39 PM,
Discussion (of any sort) aren't the problem. Beside it would be hard, if not impossible to ban a specific range without encroaching upon good topic.
Quote from: DariusWolfe on June 27, 2017, 10:26:02 PM
I am generally in agreement with your proposal to ban political discussion; My only caveat is as noted: Where the discussion of politics is actually related to Rimworld.
Also, I agree that speech is speech (and writing, and recordings, films, TV, movies, etc); Spending money may be a statement, but it is not itself speech, and shouldn't be protected in the same fashion; Nor do I think corporations should enjoy the same freedoms as actual citizens, given that the whole point of a corporation is to limit legal liability to persons. A corporation should enjoy some freedoms of speech, but not the same as actual citizens.
I also learned a while ago that there are people I try to limit discourse with, on any topic.
Edit: Hell, to be honest I'd go even further and propose the removal of the Off-Topic forum entirely, though I doubt that'd get any traction.
Quoteits simply disapproval and criticism of Islam.
Quotebut then would you agree that YOU should be jailed for calling me a bigot? [...]
QuoteBut back onto what you said : you must give an example of something I said, or something someone arrested in europe said to remove someone ELSES right
Quoteand honestly many people in europe already hate muslims as much as him
Quotethen I will have no problem
QuoteSo lets be clear : you say I am alt right because I agree with someone on the alt right.
QuoteIts a medical term, and I'm very much against moving the goal post and renaming things every 5 years. Retarded, mentally ill, brain dead, stupid, ect : all fit the bill for what is described
QuoteApparently people who are patriotic, are for free speech, and voted for trump are all "white nationalists" is this what you are saying?
QuoteI'd like to know why you figure any group is white nationalist
QuoteThe most extreme stuff I can find that is serious is someone saying they are worried about the declining ethnic European population percentage, and the Muslim invasion of European homelands. But thats not anymore white supremacist than black people who want to visit africa and preserve it for blacks are BLACK supremacist.
Quotehttps://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/18116-new-swedish-law-criminalizes-anti-immigration-internet-speech
Quotehttp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/06/sussex-police-imprison-man-speaking-radical-islamic-hate-violence/
Quote from: Fluffy (l2032) on June 27, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
The ideology of national socialism (a neo-nazis in particular) has very little to do with socialism.
Quote from: milon on June 27, 2017, 01:48:08 PM
About stopping the political discussions, I don't step in as a moderator unless someone is violating our rules. Free speech, ya know. But we're definitely keeping an eye on this one and some folks are quite close to losing their posting privileges.
Quote from: mumblemumble on June 15, 2017, 09:18:28 PM
This is how discussion works, and when you take the approach you do, of walking off in a huff when someone doesn't side with you, then it only makes you look bad