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General Discussion / 24h "guilty" timer too short?
« on: September 05, 2021, 08:55:32 AM »
Anyone else feel like the 24h "guilty" timer for raiders is way too short?
After a raid everything is covered in blood, shit and firefoam, corpses are piled to the ceiling, walls may have been breached, several colonists are in the hospital, remaining ones are popping wake-up to clean the mess AND THEN you need to somehow perform a ceremonial execution.
After a raid everything is covered in blood, shit and firefoam, corpses are piled to the ceiling, walls may have been breached, several colonists are in the hospital, remaining ones are popping wake-up to clean the mess AND THEN you need to somehow perform a ceremonial execution.
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Bugs / [1.3.3102] 0% armor on hood/slave collar/torture crown
« on: August 28, 2021, 05:06:41 AM »
1.3.3102 Linux SendOwl version Core + Ideology, no mods, no Royalty.
I just realized my excellent hyperweave hoods give 0% sharp, blunt and heat armor. That seems super dumb so you may want to check that.
Slave collars and torture crowns also give 0% armor.
I just realized my excellent hyperweave hoods give 0% sharp, blunt and heat armor. That seems super dumb so you may want to check that.
Slave collars and torture crowns also give 0% armor.
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Bugs / [1.3.3101] Accelerated biosculpting not accounted for in tooltips
« on: August 25, 2021, 01:20:34 AM »
1.3.3101 Linux SendOwl version, Core + Ideology, no mods, no Royalty.
Biosculpt cycle tooltip doesn't take "Biosculpting: Accelerated" precept into account when calculating cycle time. It does, however, get properly adjusted by room cleanliness.
Have "Biosculpting: Accelerated" precept, make a biosculpt pod in a cleanliness 0 room, hover over cycle buttons. Shows cycle times as if we didn't have accelerated biosculpting. Actual cycle time is halved like it is supposed to be.
Biosculpt cycle tooltip doesn't take "Biosculpting: Accelerated" precept into account when calculating cycle time. It does, however, get properly adjusted by room cleanliness.
Have "Biosculpting: Accelerated" precept, make a biosculpt pod in a cleanliness 0 room, hover over cycle buttons. Shows cycle times as if we didn't have accelerated biosculpting. Actual cycle time is halved like it is supposed to be.
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Bugs / [1.3.3087] Social relaxation reserves entire pew/kneel sheet, pawn ate w/o table
« on: August 17, 2021, 09:35:28 AM »
1.3.3087 Linux SendOwl version Core + Ideology, no mods or Royalty.
Social relaxation activity reserves the entire pew / kneel sheet, making pawns looking for an eating spot eat without a table when there should be ample space.
Spawn sheets, pews, tables, food, colonists. Make some colonists recreation-starved and wait for them to pick social relaxation activity at table+pew/sheet, drafting/undrafting if necessary to reroll activity. Make a colonist hungry. He will eat without a table.
Test save and unremarkable log attached.
Another issue regarding pews/sheets: [1.3.3080] Pawns may prefer to sit in wrong position on sheets/pews when eating
Social relaxation activity reserves the entire pew / kneel sheet, making pawns looking for an eating spot eat without a table when there should be ample space.
Spawn sheets, pews, tables, food, colonists. Make some colonists recreation-starved and wait for them to pick social relaxation activity at table+pew/sheet, drafting/undrafting if necessary to reroll activity. Make a colonist hungry. He will eat without a table.
Test save and unremarkable log attached.
Another issue regarding pews/sheets: [1.3.3080] Pawns may prefer to sit in wrong position on sheets/pews when eating
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Bugs / [1.3.3087] JobDriver exception emptying eggbox if stockpile too full
« on: August 15, 2021, 04:52:41 PM »
1.3.3087 Linux SendOwl version Core + Ideology no mods or Royalty.
Jobdriver throws an exception emptying the eggbox if the target stockpile is already almost full and no alternative stockpiles exist.
Spawn a pawn, create an eggbox and a 1x1 egg stockpile. Spawn ~65 eggs in the stockpile. Edit the eggbox to contain 20 eggs.
I had to edit the save since I couldn't find a debug tool to place eggs into the eggbox.
Unpause, pawn empties the eggbox, hauls the eggs, reaches stockpile, drops 10 eggs into the stockpile and 10 to nearest free spot with a jobdriver exception.
Gameplay impact without devmode is an unexplained pause.
All the footwork is already done in the test save, just unpause.
Test save and log attached.
Jobdriver throws an exception emptying the eggbox if the target stockpile is already almost full and no alternative stockpiles exist.
Spawn a pawn, create an eggbox and a 1x1 egg stockpile. Spawn ~65 eggs in the stockpile. Edit the eggbox to contain 20 eggs.
I had to edit the save since I couldn't find a debug tool to place eggs into the eggbox.
Unpause, pawn empties the eggbox, hauls the eggs, reaches stockpile, drops 10 eggs into the stockpile and 10 to nearest free spot with a jobdriver exception.
Gameplay impact without devmode is an unexplained pause.
All the footwork is already done in the test save, just unpause.
Code: [Select]
JobDriver threw exception in initAction for pawn Py driver=JobDriver_EmptyThingContainer (toilIndex=6) driver.job=(EmptyThingContainer (Job_39) A=Thing_EggChickenUnfertilized521834 B=(100, 0, 102))
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Verse.AI.GenPath.ShouldNotEnterCell (Verse.Pawn pawn, Verse.Map map, Verse.IntVec3 dest) [0x00000] in <75c61223621244ebbaedb254dfd0a66b>:0
at Verse.AI.GenPath.ResolveClosestTouchPathMode (Verse.Pawn pawn, Verse.Map map, Verse.IntVec3 target) [0x00000] in <75c61223621244ebbaedb254dfd0a66b>:0
at Verse.AI.GenPath.ResolvePathMode (Verse.Pawn pawn, Verse.TargetInfo dest, Verse.AI.PathEndMode& peMode) [0x0007b] in <75c61223621244ebbaedb254dfd0a66b>:0
at Verse.AI.Pawn_PathFollower.StartPath (Verse.LocalTargetInfo dest, Verse.AI.PathEndMode peMode) [0x00018] in <75c61223621244ebbaedb254dfd0a66b>:0
at Verse.AI.Toils_Haul+<>c__DisplayClass4_0.<CarryHauledThingToCell>b__0 () [0x0003f] in <75c61223621244ebbaedb254dfd0a66b>:0
at Verse.AI.JobDriver.TryActuallyStartNextToil () [0x001de] in <75c61223621244ebbaedb254dfd0a66b>:0
(Filename: ./Runtime/Export/Debug/Debug.bindings.h Line: 39)
Test save and log attached.
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Bugs / [1.3.3087] Enhancement request: Show food ingredients in caravan/trading screen
« on: August 14, 2021, 11:33:35 PM »
Technically not a bug, more like an omission that really should be in the base game. Yes I know, don't turn Bugs forum into Ideas forum Mk 2.
Since we have people who love/hate human meat, insect meat, mushrooms and meat in general, caravan packing/trade screen should have way to tell what the ingredients are. Like a tooltip.
Image shows human meat, insect meat, mushroom and plain packaged survival meals, all exactly identical.
Which meals I want to pack for my ovo-lacto-pescatoreans, and which ones to sell to the unsuspecting traders?
Since we have people who love/hate human meat, insect meat, mushrooms and meat in general, caravan packing/trade screen should have way to tell what the ingredients are. Like a tooltip.
Image shows human meat, insect meat, mushroom and plain packaged survival meals, all exactly identical.
Which meals I want to pack for my ovo-lacto-pescatoreans, and which ones to sell to the unsuspecting traders?
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Bugs / [1.3.3087] Long-range mineral scanner takes very little work to build
« on: August 14, 2021, 02:43:48 PM »
1.3.3087 Linux SendOwl version Core + Ideology no mods or Royalty.
Multi-analyzer 167 work
Ground-penetrating scanner 200 work
Bio-sculpter pod 467 work
Long-range mineral scanner... 17 work?
I think somebody missed a zero when these were first introduced in alpha 17, June 2017.
Data/Core/Defs/ThingDefs_Buildings/Buildings_Misc.xml
<defName>LongRangeMineralScanner</defName>
<WorkToBuild>1000</WorkToBuild>
Multi-analyzer 167 work
Ground-penetrating scanner 200 work
Bio-sculpter pod 467 work
Long-range mineral scanner... 17 work?
I think somebody missed a zero when these were first introduced in alpha 17, June 2017.
Data/Core/Defs/ThingDefs_Buildings/Buildings_Misc.xml
<defName>LongRangeMineralScanner</defName>
<WorkToBuild>1000</WorkToBuild>
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Bugs / [1.3.3080] Tinctoria has unusually short lifespan, dye has 0 value
« on: August 08, 2021, 12:14:57 PM »
1.3.3080 Linux SendOwl version Core + Ideology, no mods, no Royalty.
Tinctoria has:
It rotted at 50% growth. 30% light requirement is very misleading. Its growth rate was 29%.
Low light requirement seems ok to me, since it produces 0 value crop with mostly cosmetic benefits. I suggest bumping its lifespan to at least 15 days.
Or maybe give dye some market value. Traders sell colored cloth, so it's not the planet of the colour-blind.
I see that 30% is the minimum requirement for it to start growing, but it really wants 100% light. I assume the growth rate is (50-30)/(100-30)=0.2857.
Tinctoria has:
- Growing time 2 days
- Lifespan 6 days
- Light requirement 30%
It rotted at 50% growth. 30% light requirement is very misleading. Its growth rate was 29%.
Low light requirement seems ok to me, since it produces 0 value crop with mostly cosmetic benefits. I suggest bumping its lifespan to at least 15 days.
Or maybe give dye some market value. Traders sell colored cloth, so it's not the planet of the colour-blind.
I see that 30% is the minimum requirement for it to start growing, but it really wants 100% light. I assume the growth rate is (50-30)/(100-30)=0.2857.
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Bugs / [1.3.3080] Marriage spectators skip celebrating the marriage
« on: August 08, 2021, 08:34:55 AM »
Tried 1.3.3066 and 1.3.3080 Linux SendOwl version Core + Ideology, no mods or Royalty. Disabling Ideology doesn't change the outcome. No errors logged.
Marriage spectators leave immediately to do whatever once the new couple is married. They are unrestricted by area and on Anything schedule.
The game message says "X and Y have married. Colonists are now celebrating the occasion.".
In 1.2.2900 the colonists stay and mingle a bit before buggering off.
Now it leaves just the bride and groom attending the marriage ceremony, having an akward conversation by themselves.
Repro simply by spawning a bunch of pawns, debug Start Marriage Ceremony and watch.
Marriage spectators leave immediately to do whatever once the new couple is married. They are unrestricted by area and on Anything schedule.
The game message says "X and Y have married. Colonists are now celebrating the occasion.".
In 1.2.2900 the colonists stay and mingle a bit before buggering off.
Now it leaves just the bride and groom attending the marriage ceremony, having an akward conversation by themselves.
Repro simply by spawning a bunch of pawns, debug Start Marriage Ceremony and watch.
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Bugs / [1.3.3080] Pawns may prefer to sit in wrong position on sheets/pews when eating
« on: August 05, 2021, 03:03:25 PM »
1.3.3080 Linux SendOwl version, Core + Ideology, no mods, no Royalty.
Pawns can prefer to sit on a part of large "chair" not adjacent to table for eating. Kneel sheets and pews don't work as chairs in all orientations.
Pews make sense, but kneel sheets don't exactly have armrests.
See image. All chairs/sheets/pillows/pews around the 2x2 tables are in same orientation, plus pews around 3x3 table facing the table.
Some rush to sit on a sheet, unable to reach a table and get a -3 Ate without table mood debuff. Some sheets are left completely unused.
If you rotate the north and east sheets 180 degrees, all sheets get 4/4 populated. Pawns not adjacent to table get a mood debuff.
Pawns seem to prefer sitting on the southwest corner of the sheet or west end of the pew, even if it means sitting not adjacent to a table.
Images, test save and unremarkable log attached.
Another issue regarding pews/sheets: [1.3.3087] Social relaxation reserves entire pew/kneel sheet, pawn ate w/o table
Pawns can prefer to sit on a part of large "chair" not adjacent to table for eating. Kneel sheets and pews don't work as chairs in all orientations.
Pews make sense, but kneel sheets don't exactly have armrests.
See image. All chairs/sheets/pillows/pews around the 2x2 tables are in same orientation, plus pews around 3x3 table facing the table.
Some rush to sit on a sheet, unable to reach a table and get a -3 Ate without table mood debuff. Some sheets are left completely unused.
If you rotate the north and east sheets 180 degrees, all sheets get 4/4 populated. Pawns not adjacent to table get a mood debuff.
Pawns seem to prefer sitting on the southwest corner of the sheet or west end of the pew, even if it means sitting not adjacent to a table.
Images, test save and unremarkable log attached.
Another issue regarding pews/sheets: [1.3.3087] Social relaxation reserves entire pew/kneel sheet, pawn ate w/o table
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Bugs / [1.3.3076] Incorrect trade bonus tooltip for selling using Ideology Leader
« on: August 02, 2021, 06:48:31 AM »
1.3.3076 Linux Core + Ideology SendOwl version, no mods, no Royalty.
Trading using your ideology Leader shows negative trading bonus in the tooltip for selling.
The buying tooltip is correct, and the actual silver amounts are correct. Extra minus sign.
Trading using your ideology Leader shows negative trading bonus in the tooltip for selling.
The buying tooltip is correct, and the actual silver amounts are correct. Extra minus sign.
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Bugs / [1.3.3080] Massive NRE logspam from beggar and spacedrone events
« on: July 29, 2021, 04:40:06 PM »
Edit: Still an issue in 1.3.3080.
1.3.3075 Linux SendOwl Core + Ideology, no mods. No Royalty.
Spacedrone and beggar events generate 10+ lines of logspam every frame the bugged pawns are in view.
I typically get 720 lines per second per bugged pawn.
Beggars don't stick around for 1 day like the quest claims and the spacedrone raiders leave immediately.
Generate new colony.
Debug -> Generate quest -> RelicHunt -> accept quest
Debug -> Generate quest -> Hack_Spacedrone -> accept quest -> fast forward till raid comes -> get logspam
See also: [1.3.3066] Raiders will leave instantly during Cryptodrone info hack mission
And: [1.3.3069] Can't trade / interact with charity pawn
1.3.3075 Linux SendOwl Core + Ideology, no mods. No Royalty.
Spacedrone and beggar events generate 10+ lines of logspam every frame the bugged pawns are in view.
I typically get 720 lines per second per bugged pawn.
Beggars don't stick around for 1 day like the quest claims and the spacedrone raiders leave immediately.
Generate new colony.
Debug -> Generate quest -> RelicHunt -> accept quest
Debug -> Generate quest -> Hack_Spacedrone -> accept quest -> fast forward till raid comes -> get logspam
Code: [Select]
Exception drawing Murray: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Verse.PawnRenderer.CarryWeaponOpenly () [0x00068] in <7339b4fcb02f49ad9a628aea44eff077>:0
at Verse.PawnRenderer.DrawEquipment (UnityEngine.Vector3 rootLoc, Verse.Rot4 pawnRotation, Verse.PawnRenderFlags flags) [0x0017c] in <7339b4fcb02f49ad9a628aea44eff077>:0
at Verse.PawnRenderer.DrawDynamicParts (UnityEngine.Vector3 rootLoc, System.Single angle, Verse.Rot4 pawnRotation, Verse.PawnRenderFlags flags) [0x0000c] in <7339b4fcb02f49ad9a628aea44eff077>:0
at Verse.PawnRenderer.RenderPawnAt (UnityEngine.Vector3 drawLoc, System.Nullable`1[T] rotOverride, System.Boolean neverAimWeapon) [0x000f8] in <7339b4fcb02f49ad9a628aea44eff077>:0
at Verse.Pawn_DrawTracker.DrawAt (UnityEngine.Vector3 loc) [0x00000] in <7339b4fcb02f49ad9a628aea44eff077>:0
at Verse.Pawn.DrawAt (UnityEngine.Vector3 drawLoc, System.Boolean flip) [0x00006] in <7339b4fcb02f49ad9a628aea44eff077>:0
at Verse.Thing.Draw () [0x00015] in <7339b4fcb02f49ad9a628aea44eff077>:0
at Verse.ThingWithComps.Draw () [0x0000e] in <7339b4fcb02f49ad9a628aea44eff077>:0
at Verse.DynamicDrawManager.DrawDynamicThings () [0x000d8] in <7339b4fcb02f49ad9a628aea44eff077>:0
(Filename: ./Runtime/Export/Debug/Debug.bindings.h Line: 39)
See also: [1.3.3066] Raiders will leave instantly during Cryptodrone info hack mission
And: [1.3.3069] Can't trade / interact with charity pawn
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Bugs / [1.3.3072][fixed] "Research command" ability missing speech bubble graphic
« on: July 29, 2021, 06:27:15 AM »
1.3.3072 Linux Core + Ideology SendOwl version, no mods. No Royalty.
Research specialist ability "Research command" X in the interaction speech bubble, missing graphic.
Make a new game with transhumanism ideology, make a colonist with 6+ intellectual a research specialist, hit "Research command" button, observe X in speech bubble.
Fixed in 1.3.3075.
Research specialist ability "Research command" X in the interaction speech bubble, missing graphic.
Make a new game with transhumanism ideology, make a colonist with 6+ intellectual a research specialist, hit "Research command" button, observe X in speech bubble.
Fixed in 1.3.3075.
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Bugs / [1.3.3072][fixed] Preach health ability missing speech bubble/social tab graphic
« on: July 27, 2021, 05:08:51 AM »
1.3.3072 Linux Core + Ideology SendOwl version, no mods.
Moral guide ability Preach health shows X in the interaction speech bubble and social tab. Missing graphic.
Make a new game with 3+ colonists, make ideology with moral guide, assaign someone as Moral guide, wound a colonist, use Moral guide's Preach health ability on wounded colonist.
Log unremarkable apart from the corrupted translation filenames.
Fixed in 1.3.3075.
Moral guide ability Preach health shows X in the interaction speech bubble and social tab. Missing graphic.
Make a new game with 3+ colonists, make ideology with moral guide, assaign someone as Moral guide, wound a colonist, use Moral guide's Preach health ability on wounded colonist.
Log unremarkable apart from the corrupted translation filenames.
Fixed in 1.3.3075.
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Bugs / [1.3.3069] Several of the Ideology symbols are practically identical
« on: July 25, 2021, 09:40:53 AM »
1.3.3069 SendOwl Core + Ideology, Linux version, no mods.
Several of the Ideology symbols are practically identical, some have very minor shading/alpha.
Propably not intended.
Several of the Ideology symbols are practically identical, some have very minor shading/alpha.
Propably not intended.