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General Discussion / Re: Craziest Most F**ked Up Things
« on: February 11, 2019, 11:35:11 PM »
Note: I play very modded.

I tend to do use my prisoners as a form of money. I will remove legs, arms, then anything else I can get without killing, if they die they become kibble with the use of some automation(mod), if they live through that... I will look over their traits... and take them(another mod) if they are good, but if not sell them back to them(another mod) for a cheap 350 credits... also my people don't feel bad for it because of another mod...

plus all leather becomes dusters which is something no one is allowed to wear...

Releases / Re: [1.0] automatic Rimworld mod sorter
« on: January 27, 2019, 08:33:12 AM »
How does this mod work? how does it know where to put the mod?

weird question... can I use this to kinda link to maps together?

like I have my starting town... and then I have my new town.. they both have this mine, can I travel between the three?

Ideas / Re: Your Cheapest Ideas
« on: July 14, 2018, 09:18:09 PM »
I was pondering the idea of having a secondary slider of difficulty. The slider will control risks vs reward.  Giving us a better chance of getting better pawns and items but with the large chance of worse raids and more failure. the other way around making it easier for us with a low chance of better pawns and items. this could be locked in for a year so we can't take it back.

General Discussion / Re: Unstable build of 1.0 available
« on: July 04, 2018, 09:25:07 AM »
I agree; I've been specifically working to try to reduce the centralness of the raids, by adding some challenges and opportunities in other areas and dialing down the raids to compensate. Just so everyone knows, raids have a lot less pawns than they used to, and the game may move further in this direction. We just end up talking about raids a lot because they are somewhat of a focal point.

Noticed and appreciated. In A17 I had a rather wealthy colony and I kept getting attacked by massive raids. Like 50+ tribals. That was really tedious to play against. Not necessarily difficult, just tedious, so much dead bodies, items on the ground and just the shear mass of pawns on the map.

I agree. it's more tedious with raids for the clean up, repair on higher raids. When I can spend days just cleaning up the bodies, clothes are now useless. so the only real thing is weapons and random items, it doesn't really feel useful. don't forget the mood debuffs.

What would be nice would be scavengers... a group of pawns whoms sole reason in the game is to come in and remove the bodies. Historically I believe there was groups of armies around to take the dead home, and scavenge.   

Ideas / [1.0] Upgradable items
« on: July 03, 2018, 01:56:13 PM »
With 1.0 it's harder to get legendary stuff. why couldn't we have it that any item could become legendary with high risk?
Have it for high skill people only, and a time sink with a high risk of losing the item that anything could become legendary.


General Discussion / Re: RimWorld on iOS (tablet and/or phone)?
« on: March 06, 2018, 11:44:07 PM »
Best idea....
He could make it free to pay... releasing basic things but then charge people for everything else..
like they did with The Sims.

He would be way more money...
Weird fact mobile games make more money then PC or even Console games, as it's easier to spend money on micro transactions then one big one.
Here is a link if someone wants to read it:

General Discussion / The Next Patch Will Be 1.0 (from reddit)
« on: January 16, 2018, 06:10:50 AM »
I don't know how many people go between here and reddit, I don't always so I figured I'll just post this in here. Over all I think Tynan should make this into a blog post lol. Everything could be found here:

There's a lot to say about this. The below will ramble a bit, for which I apologize. My purpose below is just to share a piece of my point of view. In this post I'll explain why many of the things you see requested won't be worked on. I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I write, but I hope you at least understand where I'm coming from.

When a suggestion comes up a lot from different sources, I take it really seriously. However these days, the things that people tend to mention in the context of "it has to be in the game or it's not finished" tend to be specific to the player who is suggesting them.

Just look at the responses to this post, for example. There is zero overlap between suggestions. /u/NotScrollsApparently has a list of UI changes that was linked. /u/somuchdirt74 posted a system of on-map icons to express health effects (an idea we explored years ago and doesn't work and which I've actually never seen suggested before). /u/kezza596 says the game "MUST" have a 64-bit implementation. Others are demanding Z-levels. And that's just a handful of people. Now extend that to hundreds of thousands of people.

My job is to serve RimWorld players as a whole. That includes super hardcore players with 200 mods, who know every detail of the UI and want more ultra-power user options to make everything more automated, faster, fewer clicks, more fluent. It also includes the 76-year old grandmas and 10-year-old kids who email me to thank me for making a game they can actually play. It includes the people who talk on forums, and the great silent majority who never say anything online at all.

I have to make changes that help a lot of those people without hurting any of them. Many power user requests, for example, would hurt new players by adding complexity that new players need to learn to avoid. Nobody wants to open a game and see 100 buttons on every menu, even if each one has a power user purpose. It's intimidating.

This significantly limits how hard I push for power user utilities.

The feedback state of the game has actually been mostly the same for years: A large faction of players saying they're happy with it as is being final, and others who each have some specific thing that they believe must go in before it can be finished. And those specific things are usually very different from person to person. Over the years we've implemented many of those specific things, but it doesn't really matter; even if we make the game fun for 80 hours instead of 60, players still reach the same point where they feel something is missing. It's an inherent problem with a play-forever style of game like this.

Games with definitive endings and no replay expectation (e.g. Portal) don't have this issue. But we are on an endless treadmill because the game by its very nature always gets boring for every player. (RW's average playtime on SteamSpy is 92 hours, by the way, which is exceptionally high).

So there's other issues in play here too. One is that many of the ideas that get demanded really aren't actionable. Often they are logically impossible, or incomplete, or push on one side of a tradeoff without accounting for the other side.

I hate to single anyone out here, but I need examples. /u/NotScrollsApparently 's linked post for example is mixed in this respect:

"some stuff (like planting options) are in a practically randomly sorted lists in which it's hard to find a particular item."

This is a good thought IMO and we've taken steps to solve it for the next version already (fewer redundant tree options). Sorting better would be nice too. He picked out this one well.

(That said, if the order of plants in the plant selection menu is a significant part of the "must be changed or the game isn't finished" list of features, I'd say we're doing pretty well. It's a real thing, and a good idea, but it's also a tiny thing. This sort of thing gets polished on finished games all the time(e.g. see how much polish a game like StarCraft 2 had after release. It doesn't mean the game wasn't finished on release.)

"Zone manipulation is all over the place - some things can be done in restrict-manage area, some zones have multiple buttons while others have dropdown lists when you click them. Some have one mode (on or off), others have different options (restrict, ignore, decostruct for roofs). These should be standardized to a single location and to the same controls scheme."

There's a good core idea here, which is to condense the UI and establish patterns which repeat themselves. Unfortunately it doesn't actually cleanly map onto what's being controlled here.

Some of these controls create zones, which can be selected, created infinitely, must be contiguous, etc. E.g. Growing zones, stockpiles zones.

Some of these controls manage areas, which cannot be selected, can be painted and removed everywhere non-contiguously, and so on. E.g. Allowed area, home area

Some areas need to have more than on/off! Like roofs. The player must be able to distinguish between "build a roof here if there isn't one", "ignore whether there are roofs here", and "remove any roof here if there is one". We could put the under a sub-menu, but that doesn't seem like an improvement to me. It just adds clicks; there's enough room to show all the options without requiring more clicks, so we do.

So anyway, these different things are conceptually grouped as zones/areas but they fundamentally serve different purposes so they can't have exactly the same interface. So from my analysis right now, we can never fulfill this suggestion.

Sidebar: This is a common pattern: The suggestion expresses a vague desire for a part of the UI to be easier to use/understand, without a specific idea of how that could be so. Not all UI suggestions are like this, but some are (especially the high-level "fix the UI" suggestions). If I could request one thing of suggesters it is this: Be very, very specific about what exactly the new design should be that you want to see. Stating problems can be useful, but stating problems with solutions together advances the conversation much more!

"Work and Restrict are not clear enough and should probably be merged somehow"

But... how? In fact these were the same menu long ago; but there's not nearly enough space for all the information so they were specifically separated. It's an artificial separation, which is what /u/NotScrollsApparently noticed here, but it's also a necessary and IMO optimal tradeoff.

That's the pattern for a lot of suggestions that we won't follow: Players seeing a tradeoff and suggesting that it be unbalanced to gain one benefit without realizing that it would create a cost on the other end that's even worse. Game design, in my opinion, is often about understanding and optimizing these tradeoffs. I've not done it perfectly... but I've really tried!


I have a lot more intuitions about this as well. Suggestions analysis is a big part of what I do every day. But this post has to wrap up somewhere. Suffice to say there's a lot more thoughts that go into evaluating ideas than I've had space to write here; this isn't intended to be a complete system of thought, and I know it's not a very well-expressed one either.

There are still endless actionable suggestions out there. Many are pretty darn cool! And that's leaving aside all the ideas that come from inside Ludeon, including the brain of yours truly.

This game can expand endlessly. That's it's nature. It's not a closed story like Portal 2. It's an open system endlessly moddable, expandable. You can always play longer, more colonists, more wealth, more colonies, more mods, again and again and again. There's always more to want.

So faced with an endless treadmill of requests, I must draw the line somewhere. But where?

Five years. I figure five years is a decent enough place. Five years are enough for $30. Five years are enough to call a game finished.

(Of course, it's great to suggest new things beyond that, but to demand a developer work more than five years on one game for one sale is not, in my opinion, reasonable. In truth I think any dev who does two years has earned his keep; five years is getting into ridiculous territory. Not that I'm complaining of course; I've always liked working on RimWorld.)

It won't be perfect, of course. Nothing ever is. And I won't even be finished with it. But - it'll be finished.

Next version will be 1.0, by the way. We are furiously refining the hell out of this thing.

What are we doing? The space of possible improvements in RW is so vast that so far we've been doing almost entirely stuff completely separate from every suggestion here!

I've been working with ison to heavily redesign the interface, systems and balance for caravans, since it was pretty broken and obscure.
/u/ZorbaTHut recently implemented a very nice watermill power generator and underwater power cables, so rivers are actually meaningfully playable.
He also made a huge optimization to mod loading; one major mod went from 90 seconds to 40 seconds loading time (!)
He made cooks refuel stoves before cooking if needed instead of waiting for haulers to do it.
We condensed the leather types to a far smaller grouping to mitigate the "10 of every leather type" problem. I also rebalanced the leathers so they're actually meaningfully different in recognizable, coherent ways.
I redesigned the economy for trading animals with traders so traders accept and sell types and amounts of animals that make sense.
I redesigned and rebalanced some animals. Wild boar and pig specifically each have a balanced niche in comparison to the other (boar is a better fighter, pig is better at domestic productivity).
I reworked the doctor AI so they'll prioritize tending people differently and not go to get food while someone's bleeding to death.
I switched the blight to be bright orange so it's easy to see.
That's just some random stuff off the top of my head. We made hundreds of other changes wrought by watching dozens of hours of play videos and reading thousand of suggestions. There are so many things to refine in a game like this; it's almost unbelievable! Still working on it.

Oh yeah, the most critical change of them all: Sheriff backstory is no longer ridiculously awful.

Mods / [Mod Tool request] Loot for rimworld
« on: November 28, 2017, 06:17:03 AM »
LOOT is a Load Order Optimisation Tool for TES V: Skyrim, fallout and other games. As mod order is important and it can take a lot of time to get everything right. How hard would it be to make something like this for Rimworld? Webside Code


General Discussion / Re: "-There can only be one.-", Lambert.
« on: November 24, 2017, 12:26:16 PM »
Just kill him.... Make a nice leather hat and see if he can come back from that

General Discussion / Re: 101 questions of: Is it wrong to....
« on: November 04, 2017, 03:11:48 PM »
8. Capture, harvest, drug them, release with peg legs

General Discussion / Re: Modularity or Orginality
« on: October 11, 2017, 08:39:10 AM »
It depends on the events. I start with a big room, getting everything set up. Then I move on with a nice 6 room bedroom box... and then go nuts making whatever I need at the time in a mess of rooms.

General Discussion / Re: You know you played to much Rimworld, when ..
« on: October 03, 2017, 06:28:52 AM »
When you start to dream about playing the game

hmm... what is a No-Pause campaign?

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