A17 Change Infestation (so it doesnt destroy itself) a little back

[Lowkey1987]

Hello together,
(Prolog)
i play A17 now for quite some time. Also i like the changes to the infestation. I was realy suprised that every bug (even when the hives are seperated) attack, if you burn hives.
After this i wishes for a second infestation, to test with the insects. I play with mountains, but didnt build in them (only -20°C storage rooms).
After 8 years i got my second infestation (now i am heating the mountain caves in winter). And i attack one of them, because i build some defence at the entrance. And every bug attacked.
Now all hives will die again.

(Suggestion)
If something happend, which pull every bug from the hives, dont sent EVERY bug. Send 90% or no small bugs.

There are two problems (in my opinion) which would benefit from this.
First: The attack force is reduced. The chance of survivel increase! And if you beat this wave, you can go in and fight the small rest pest.
Second: This hives dont die. The hives need maintenance. After EVERY bug died... they will die, too.

Of course, this will only happen, i the next time for spawning bugs is to far away. 

[giannikampa]

+1

[SpaceDorf]

+2

in addition I think about more different spawn times.
I think there is a timer for Hive Duplication and for Insect Spawns ?
( jelly and light spawns random ? )
If every insect on the map is dead or incappacitated ( no exploity ) ... better yet a flee condition is reached like raiders,
the hives get a short timer and spawn some small bugs.

ooooor .. the alien solution .. the hives spawn a hive queen which will protect the hives until new warriors are born and which will start walling in the hives.

[giannikampa]

ooooor .. the alien solution .. the hives spawn a hive queen which will protect the hives until new warriors are born and which will start walling in the hives.

no need for a new unit: actual spelopede could just not chase the enemy out of a radius from hives.
why spelopede? bc they look like labor drones plus the biggest and the smallest insects still go for prays keeping the challenge as intended. the hive itself is the queen!

[Bolgfred]

I'd love to see a bug queen. If a hive is given any damage, the queen spawns. When the hive is at full health, the queen goes back into the hive after e.g. 30 seconds.
While active she does three things: 1. Attack anyting very near the hive(10-20 tiles); 2. Repair the hive if damaged; 3. If the hive is destroyed before the queen could repair it, she tries to build a new hive.
While the queen is active, every bug gets frenzied, attacking anything on sight. Otherwise, when the queen is killed, all bugs get stunned for x ticks.

The effect of this is, that bug can be attacked, and will engage as always against the player. But they won't genozide themselves by attacking you. On top on that, it will be extra-difficult to rush attack an infestation by attacking the hive first.