[A11b] Prison Improvements v1.1 updated by kexici

[Mechanoid Hivemind]

Hm, that must be the placeworker, a piece of code that runs when you have it selected but before you place it, and figures out if the spot you're choosing is legal. I see it a bit now too, now that you mention it, but not nearly that drastic.

Does it only happen if you're mousing over a large open space?

No it happens all the time and i have a beefy computer to make it lag like that somethings funky

[SundayTuesday]

how possible is it to make enemy factions try to break their imprisoned faction members out of jail OR negotiate their release for some silver as their main goal for attacking, instead of the standard kill-all-humans story?

This would be pretty cool but I don't know how possible that would be.

[Wastelander]

No it happens all the time and i have a beefy computer to make it lag like that somethings funky

That's pretty weird. Anyone else seeing this?

You should be able to resolve it by removing the <placeworker> block from prisoner_improvement_buildings.xml... after that you'll be able to place the prison marker anywhere, might get weird effects if it's placed outdoors, so be careful.

[Rikiki]

I noticed a very slight slow when trying to place the marker over the main area but nothing that breaks the performance.
Reminds me of some people complaining about the alert speaker glowers setting their PC on knees...
I also noticed in my previous colony that when I load a savegame, colonist beds in rooms adjacent to the prison yard (which contains a marker) are set for prisonners. I will post a screenshot if I see it again in my current colony.

[Justin C]

how possible is it to make enemy factions try to break their imprisoned faction members out of jail OR negotiate their release for some silver as their main goal for attacking, instead of the standard kill-all-humans story?

This would be pretty cool but I don't know how possible that would be.

It should be possible.

1) Find a prisoner belonging to your faction.
2) Find the room they are contained in.
3) Attack the door or walls of that room until the prisoner escapes.

You'd have to do some poking around in the code to see how things work, but I am pretty sure enemies will attack doors by default if their target is inside a room.

The hard part would be dealing with all of the creative prisons people will start building to try and break the mod.

[elStrages]

Some great ideas here.

This is something I think would be beneficial in the game and should contribute to the recruitment of prisoners, not just being talked to by the warden lol

[numen0r]

how possible is it to make enemy factions try to break their imprisoned faction members out of jail OR negotiate their release for some silver as their main goal for attacking, instead of the standard kill-all-humans story?

This would be pretty cool but I don't know how possible that would be.

It should be possible.

1) Find a prisoner belonging to your faction.
2) Find the room they are contained in.
3) Attack the door or walls of that room until the prisoner escapes.

You'd have to do some poking around in the code to see how things work, but I am pretty sure enemies will attack doors by default if their target is inside a room.

The hard part would be dealing with all of the creative prisons people will start building to try and break the mod.

Actually I think most people will start to put more thought in separating their prisons from their main base, in fear of getting run over by a huge raid just for 1 pesky prisoner.
It could add so much more strategy to the game.

[Boboid]

Yeah I'd most definitely separate my prison from my main base... and then reconstruct the wall all the raiders walked through to get to my prison and freeze them all to death.

[palandus]

Or simply use Mechanical walls (from Mechanical Defense by mipen) and raise them. That's what I do for my furnace / flash freezer for dealing with raiders. I lower all the walls... they walk in, and then I raise all the walls trapping them inside.

[FettaCheese]

The biggest "problem" with this mod is that my colonist try to feed the prisoners while their out and about and just leave food everywhere...

[Wastelander]

The biggest "problem" with this mod is that my colonist try to feed the prisoners while their out and about and just leave food everywhere...

Did you try unchecking 'gets food' in the prisoner menu? I think that will make wardens stop hauling food to them.

I could look into making it so that box is unchecked by default, would that be better?

[Mechanoid Hivemind]

The biggest "problem" with this mod is that my colonist try to feed the prisoners while their out and about and just leave food everywhere...

Did you try unchecking 'gets food' in the prisoner menu? I think that will make wardens stop hauling food to them.

I could look into making it so that box is unchecked by default, would that be better?

I am also seeing an issue with the hoppers on the sides of the prison o mat. When the cook fills it the other people run in there and take the food back out to my freezer

[Wastelander]

I am also seeing an issue with the hoppers on the sides of the prison o mat. When the cook fills it the other people run in there and take the food back out to my freezer

Did that start happening with the installation of this mod? I don't think I messed with the hauling stuff at all...

Is the storage zone in the freezer is set to a higher priority than the hopper?

[dareddevil7]

i love this concept! Now all you need is to be able to execute prisoners by firing squad, so we need a way to line up prisoners against a wall

[MrWashingToad]

Have been using this with Epyk's pack - very little issues at all. Excellent work.