Cultural and Personality gains

Started by johntiger, February 04, 2015, 05:30:33 PM

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johntiger

What is it like spending in cold all the time in Russia or the heat in Arabia? It appears that environment have quite impact on their culture and then their personalities. So how about adding this to Rimworld. Spending time in tundra and snows should gain frosty traits that develop over time. There's tons of bodies from raiders. After long time, the colonist should become more immune to it stage by stage until full immunity. In hot desert area wearing dusters and cowboy hats, colonists should gain quirks of being straight and open and sociable. Well, it could require more research into social history to grasp the quirks that could be gained from environmental living.

And then there's culture. Right now, the colony feels too much like individuals that will never band together. Sure there will be relationships in later alphas. But they are not the core that binds the individuals together. It's more of culture born from relationships and necessities. Cultures in moods and dealings with hostiles, neutral, friendlies and then their lifestyle. For instance, growing a lot of strawberries should give them a hankering for meals that include strawberries or a festival day. Cannibalism will turn the colony into cannibal-oriented feast. Discovering a shrine induces a religious revolution. It at least should give shape to what kind of loyalty your colonists will hold toward your colony and determine if they will leave or do their best for the colony. It should even affect their work efficiency. More loyal they are, faster they work.

Reptavian

Hmm, I want to say I like this idea, but then I don't really know if that fits the game as it is now.  It sort of seems like this would require a complete rebuild and overhaul of at least one of the games core mechanics.  Lets see, hey what about Farscape, it wasn't a colony but that show was about a group of individuals forced into living and working and fighting together for the common goal of survival.  Did they pull together as a community and make happy times?  Not so much really, they were all so different from each other they were nearly always ready to go for each others throats.  You have to remember these are survivors from a passenger vessel, they are altogether different from one another.  If anything I'd like it if some of them could have a language barrier that for a time reduces how well they perform on group tasks.

Eleazar

Quote from: johntiger on February 04, 2015, 05:30:33 PM
Spending time in tundra and snows should gain frosty traits that develop over time.
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In hot desert area wearing dusters and cowboy hats, colonists should gain quirks of being straight and open and sociable. Well, it could require more research into social history to grasp the quirks that could be gained from environmental living.

Environment is relevant to culture but it doesn't work like you seem to think.  There's weak if any correlation between living in a hot desert and being "straight and open and sociable" for instance.  You can find tons of examples of cultures living in the same sort of environment, or even in the same place at a different point of time who didn't have similar "personalities".

johntiger

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Quote from: Eleazar on February 05, 2015, 04:48:20 PM
Quote from: johntiger on February 04, 2015, 05:30:33 PM
Spending time in tundra and snows should gain frosty traits that develop over time.
...
In hot desert area wearing dusters and cowboy hats, colonists should gain quirks of being straight and open and sociable. Well, it could require more research into social history to grasp the quirks that could be gained from environmental living.

Environment is relevant to culture but it doesn't work like you seem to think.  There's weak if any correlation between living in a hot desert and being "straight and open and sociable" for instance.  You can find tons of examples of cultures living in the same sort of environment, or even in the same place at a different point of time who didn't have similar "personalities".

True but you still gain experiences which affect your personalities. For instance, you are used to cold mentally after living in tundra since birth. Then you get dumped by plane accident or whatever into desert, you learn to adapt. Adapt brings change. Change brings new personality quirks called habits that help you adapt well to the heat. It's psychological stuffs. What you are truly talking about is birth development, something we lived with since birth and don't even know it.  From that, personalities aren't similar. Changes from forced livings and choices bring habits that are more common than you may think. Habit is universal and forms part of our personalities. If you didn't know, watch Lie To Me tv series. It's awesome and based on real fact: science of micro-expression. Also another real life source to back me up a book, The Power of Habits by Charles Duhigg. This book studied and explains habits that takes over 50 percents of our actions. By studying those habits, many powerful conglomerates, corporations, and businesses have attempted to influence habits of workers and customers. Starbuck is successful example as explained in the book.