[A12d] RedistHeat - Vents/Ducts (Oct 12, v42b) Small heater fix

[Tekuromoto]

Not sure what the last patch did but vanilla heaters are utterly unresponsive and remain idle at any and all temperatures. Medium heaters do work normally but I'm loathe to use those, as last patch there was an obnoxious bug where ghost medium heaters would persist and sometimes stack on top of themselves where deconstructed heaters used to be.

Two bugs to choose from, take your pick on which to look at first.

I believe I can confirm this - none of my vanilla (now "small") heaters are working properly. They show the heating area when clicked on but never seem to produce heat. I generally avoid medium heaters because they're way too expensive to construct at two-and-a-half times the cost of a small heater.

[1000101]

Not sure what the last patch did but vanilla heaters are utterly unresponsive and remain idle at any and all temperatures. Medium heaters do work normally but I'm loathe to use those, as last patch there was an obnoxious bug where ghost medium heaters would persist and sometimes stack on top of themselves where deconstructed heaters used to be.

Two bugs to choose from, take your pick on which to look at first.

I believe I can confirm this - none of my vanilla (now "small") heaters are working properly. They show the heating area when clicked on but never seem to produce heat. I generally avoid medium heaters because they're way too expensive to construct at two-and-a-half times the cost of a small heater.

Can you guys give more details to the problem?  ie, what mods are you running with this?  I use this with my Mountain Temperature mod (which makes heating and cooling mountains a lot more expensive, as you are fighting natural geothermal radiant heat) but all the heaters and coolers work for me.

Edit: brain fart

[Klaatu]

Not sure what the last patch did but vanilla heaters are utterly unresponsive and remain idle at any and all temperatures. Medium heaters do work normally but I'm loathe to use those, as last patch there was an obnoxious bug where ghost medium heaters would persist and sometimes stack on top of themselves where deconstructed heaters used to be.

Two bugs to choose from, take your pick on which to look at first.

I believe I can confirm this - none of my vanilla (now "small") heaters are working properly. They show the heating area when clicked on but never seem to produce heat. I generally avoid medium heaters because they're way too expensive to construct at two-and-a-half times the cost of a small heater.

I can confirm that the small heaters didn't function at all. They were set to 70 degrees in an ice biome, displayed 100 watts, but weren't actually turned on because A) they weren't producing heat, and B) was set to low power consumption. I had to use medium coolers in reverse to work around this issue... AC, in the Ice Biome no less. It was very frustrating since I was streaming this on twitch to demonstrate how to do ice biome, and couldn't remove redistribute heat in order to fix it on the same save without dev mode.

The room was sealed, but the small heaters don't work at all.

[Tekuromoto]

Can you guys give more details to the problem?  ie, what mods are you running with this?

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[TheGentlmen]

Bug: Small Heater goes Idle without heating.
Steps: Make a room, put a small heater in it, set it to heat to 100C, note how it doesn't heat and is at low power consumption.
Mods:

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Pictures:

Upper Rooms (Heater Testing), left to right:



Lower Rooms (Cooler Testing), left to right:



Outdoors:

[TheGentlmen]

Can't repo ghost heaters.

[1000101]

Ok, I found the problem and made the small change needed to fix the small heaters.

The xml is set for normal ticking, the code is using the rare tick method however, in the rare tick method would never execute properly anyway even if it was set to use it in xml.  Code updated to use normal tick method as is intended.

I have done a PR on github with the changes and am attaching the bugfix I did to this forum post.  Normally I would not do this and let the original author make their own release but those who know Latta know why an update may otherwise be delayed.

Regarding phantom glowers:
These are only really an issue on game load and they self correct (extras delete themselves).  If you have a game where they don't it's probably because you updated the mod from an earlier version mid-game.  If needed, help can be given on how to edit your save to remove the phantom glowers.

On that topic, when updating mods it's always best practice to start a new colony and depending on the mod a new world depending on the scope of the changes in the mod.  This is not a unique phenomenon to RimWorld.  EVERY game is like that.  Update mods, start new game.

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[TheGentlmen]

Ok, I found the problem and made the small change needed to fix the small heaters.

The xml is set for normal ticking, the code is using the rare tick method however, in the rare tick method would never execute properly anyway even if it was set to use it in xml.  Code updated to use normal tick method as is intended.

I have done a PR on github with the changes and am attaching the bugfix I did to this forum post.  Normally I would not do this and let the original author make their own release but those who know Latta know why an update may otherwise be delayed.

Regarding phantom glowers:
These are only really an issue on game load and they self correct (extras delete themselves).  If you have a game where they don't it's probably because you updated the mod from an earlier version mid-game.  If needed, help can be given on how to edit your save to remove the phantom glowers.

On that topic, when updating mods it's always best practice to start a new colony and depending on the mod a new world depending on the scope of the changes in the mod.  This is not a unique phenomenon to RimWorld.  EVERY game is like that.  Update mods, start new game.

What happened to latta? Did ya eat her?

[Flashpoint]

I can't seem to use all aspects of this mod. I have CCL and the mod installed properly, but some things don't work. The issues are only prominent in the duct intakes, as I can't seem to place them. I can place pipes just fine, (http://i.imgur.com/8C36JmJ.png) but I can't place intakes or vents.
http://i.imgur.com/ytThLXz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DblACah.jpg

I reinstalled the game completely, I'm not sure if anyone else has had this issue.

[TheGentlmen]

I can't seem to use all aspects of this mod. I have CCL and the mod installed properly, but some things don't work. The issues are only prominent in the duct intakes, as I can't seem to place them. I can place pipes just fine, (http://i.imgur.com/8C36JmJ.png) but I can't place intakes or vents.
http://i.imgur.com/ytThLXz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DblACah.jpg

I reinstalled the game completely, I'm not sure if anyone else has had this issue.

You need to place the ducts under the wall first before you add intakes and similar.

As for vents, they need to be put on walls.

[Latta]

Sorry, I'm not in a shape to stand long time coding, and I have to take another treatment on Dec~Jan which will make my condition worse I believe. So I decided to play games I have, not code.
But at least I can merge PR. Credits to 1000101.

Luckily due to Tynan's long time vacation I don't have to version up... :p

Edit: And here goes 42b. As I said credits to 1000101. No changes made to XML.

[Tekuromoto]

Thanks for everything you've done for RimWorld, Latta! Enjoy playing for a while instead of working, and I hope your health issues resolve soon.

[Flashpoint]

You need to place the ducts under the wall first before you add intakes and similar.

As for vents, they need to be put on walls.

That may have fixed my pipe problem but I can't place the vents even if they are on walls. :p
Thanks for your help though, I just got a new PC so hopefully the fresh install will make a difference.

[TheGentlmen]

You need to place the ducts under the wall first before you add intakes and similar.

As for vents, they need to be put on walls.

That may have fixed my pipe problem but I can't place the vents even if they are on walls. :p
Thanks for your help though, I just got a new PC so hopefully the fresh install will make a difference.

The vent should look like dis:

And it should go on wallz. If it doesn't, another mod is overriding it.

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[Shadowhacker]

I can't play any vents too.. Some tubes will work, but when i try to place vents.. It's not doing anything, i'm using mods:

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Community Core Library v0.12.3 (+ Vanilla Tweaks)
Core
EdB Prepare Carefully
Industrialisation
LT-RedistHeat
ModularTables v1.47

Also - i am playing in cold climate.. And when i installed the mode almost all people got freezing state ('cause all my heaters was.. not heating like some people said there).. Well.. :-D
What should i do if i want this mod to work?