Prisoners with shot to the brain.

[ItchyFlea]

I've removed the off-topic posts. Please stay on topic guys.

[Adamiks]

Admins don't have any sense of humor....
It could make someone laugh, but nooooooooo. Delete it! Warn the poster! BURN IT!!

[Daman453]

Admins don't have any sense of humor....
It could make someone laugh, but nooooooooo. Delete it! Warn the poster! BURN IT!!

I understand the jokes, but please, if your joke takes up half the page and is off topic then i don't really care. And please don't have a flame war with me over this. I am sure the admins/mods can handle it if you have any questions

[Mr.Cross]

Daman453: did you at least see my apology before it got burned?

Admikins: are you still gonna do that mod on the brain parts? It really would be nice to see how it'd work.

Pehaps if this ever gets implemented in the core game some of colonists could come pre-brain wrecked?

[Adamiks]

Yeah, i'm working on it, but i have some problems already. In real life bullet can hit brain parts that control sight and for example manipulation (moving also), i don't know how to make it in actuall game. I can make every part of brain next layer of brain but this will not work also, because colonists will get hit always in "layers" that are most "up". Or i can make every part of brain another "body part" in the skull, but i don't know if  this'll work, i think bullet will hit only one part at time (btw i didn't played Rimworld for long time, if bullet can hit two body parts at the time, please tell me it). I don't think this will work without DLL (and i suck at C#)

EDIT

Nah... This will not work. I've make a fast test in game to look how it works in actuall game. It works really bad. If colonist have destroyed one part of the brain he can still do everything etc. in real life losing brain part that you don't even need in long run would end in death anyway due to blood lost, but in Rimworld destroyed body parts don't bleed (btw which sucks, liver with cut bleed but hole in your chest not? Wtf?).

[Cimm0]

Yeah, i'm working on it, but i have some problems already. In real life bullet can hit brain parts that control sight and for example manipulation (moving also), i don't know how to make it in actuall game. I can make every part of brain next layer of brain but this will not work also, because colonists will get hit always in "layers" that are most "up". Or i can make every part of brain another "body part" in the skull, but i don't know if  this'll work, i think bullet will hit only one part at time (btw i didn't played Rimworld for long time, if bullet can hit two body parts at the time, please tell me it). I don't think this will work without DLL (and i suck at C#)

EDIT

Nah... This will not work. I've make a fast test in game to look how it works in actuall game. It works really bad. If colonist have destroyed one part of the brain he can still do everything etc. in real life losing brain part that you don't even need in long run would end in death anyway due to blood lost, but in Rimworld destroyed body parts don't bleed (btw which sucks, liver with cut bleed but hole in your chest not? Wtf?).

Oh snap, didn't know bullets only damage a single thing at once. Wouldn't work like that in real life, either. It would indeed seem weird to have fully functional colonists with some parts of the brain completely destroyed but who would otherwise be completely OK.

The wounding system is otherwise okay though, I think there's not much "new" brain damage could bring in terms of abilities. Can't get any new negative perks from it either, say, abrasive or volatile personality or neurotic behavior. I guess it would be as hard to code as it is to understand in real life, hehe.

Oh and btw, thanks for testing it out!

[Adamiks]

Yeah, hiting two body parts (not layers) with one bullet would be hard to code, but destroyed body parts that bleed shouldn't be very hard to code (at least not for me ). What i would like to see to no "bandage all!" system - you can literally bandage BRAIN without opening the skull, which is kinda bad. I think that colonists shouldn't be able to bandage any body part that is inside without operation (like removing organs etc.), small thing, of course but really important because colonists could actually die from blood lost before doctor could patch their liver. Yeah, i know that you can actually remove bullet without opening anything but it's not so easy to just "bandage" liver and be happy. Patching organs is really hard and i think that these kind of body parts should be a way more important, like you get a bullet in liver and you're dead if medic will not patch you. Fast. One bullet in the lung and you can't breeth due to pressure.

[Necronomocoins]

Seriously, my brain got squashed up into the inside of the front of my skull and was bleeding, a lot apparently, I had also fractured and compacted my L4 vertebrae and broke my right tibia but according to independent witness statements I "ran 100 meters in record time". All this with a "severely damaged brain" according to two doctors. I've never felt any pain from this accident (which happened 5 years ago) and have become smarter faster than I was before the severe brain damage, the only down side has been that I forget things slightly more often now. On the other side of the same coin, when I was in hospital I met a guy that had taken a drug once, in Vietnam, and he was almost a vegetable, another guy I met on his 18th birthday, that day he fell over, hit his head and died of aneurism in under a minute. Realistic health effects are very difficult to put into any game, in my experience.

[Adamiks]

Seriously, my brain got squashed up into the inside of the front of my skull and was bleeding, a lot apparently, I had also fractured and compacted my L4 vertebrae and broke my right tibia but according to independent witness statements I "ran 100 meters in record time". All this with a "severely damaged brain" according to two doctors. I've never felt any pain from this accident (which happened 5 years ago) and have become smarter faster than I was before the severe brain damage, the only down side has been that I forget things slightly more often now. On the other side of the same coin, when I was in hospital I met a guy that had taken a drug once, in Vietnam, and he was almost a vegetable, another guy I met on his 18th birthday, that day he fell over, hit his head and died of aneurism in under a minute. Realistic health effects are very difficult to put into any game, in my experience.

We still don't know how our brains exactly works, but cases like yours are really, really rare. In most cases after brain damage you're dead, vegetable or (which is rare) nothing at all, but if someone get smarter (Do you have more IQ than before? Or you just feel that you can remember more things, or you remember things that you forget a long time ago?) after this then he is fucking Jesus and it's really rare. But even if you get smarter after this, you must remember than you can die due to blood loss really quickly even if you feel good - there is a lot of blood going through brain, i think you was just lucky that you didn't blackout or these doctors made too much drama about this and you wasn't bleeding so bad/you wasn't so long outside. Btw i think that with "several brain damage" you would just blackout at least, i think it wasn't so bad, but i wasn't here so what i can know. Btw 2 - you could not feel pain due to adrenaline. My brother get skull crushed (a little, no brain damage etc.), his whole back was in blood, but he was feeling good (well... he knew that he get damaged), he get back to home on bicycle and then my mom went with him to the hospital.

Also, if could exmplain how this happened this would be great, you know, bullet in the brain is something different than you could experience.

[milon]

Yeah, i'm working on it, but i have some problems already. In real life bullet can hit brain parts that control sight and for example manipulation (moving also), i don't know how to make it in actuall game. I can make every part of brain next layer of brain but this will not work also, because colonists will get hit always in "layers" that are most "up". Or i can make every part of brain another "body part" in the skull, but i don't know if  this'll work, i think bullet will hit only one part at time (btw i didn't played Rimworld for long time, if bullet can hit two body parts at the time, please tell me it). I don't think this will work without DLL (and i suck at C#)

EDIT

Nah... This will not work. I've make a fast test in game to look how it works in actuall game. It works really bad. If colonist have destroyed one part of the brain he can still do everything etc. in real life losing brain part that you don't even need in long run would end in death anyway due to blood lost, but in Rimworld destroyed body parts don't bleed (btw which sucks, liver with cut bleed but hole in your chest not? Wtf?).

Any chance that your mod could translate a brain strike into "randomly damage 2-3 brain functions"?  If so, you could even add head bleeding after a bullet hits the brain.  Areas that could be affected: consciousness, memory (learning), manipulation, sight, speech (social), eating, sleep, and maybe others too depending on how detailed/complex you want to get.

[Adamiks]

Sorry, but no. I don't know how to mod in C# so i can't make it.

[Necronomocoins]

I did black out, after about 5 minutes I fell unconscious in the same field that the emergency rescue helicopter landed in and they induced a coma which lasted a week. My theory as to how I got "smarter" is that during the amnesia, with an almost empty brain, I was learning as quickly as a child and assessing/assimilating a bunch of newly learned stuff with the slowly returning memories and figuring out that a lot of the stuff that I thought I knew, was not true. On the first day of brain assessment, my learning and memory was dismal or worse, I could barely remember my own name, but it didn't take long, a few weeks, before I was smarter than before. Smarter as in learning faster.

[Adamiks]

I did black out, after about 5 minutes I fell unconscious in the same field that the emergency rescue helicopter landed in and they induced a coma which lasted a week. My theory as to how I got "smarter" is that during the amnesia, with an almost empty brain, I was learning as quickly as a child and assessing/assimilating a bunch of newly learned stuff with the slowly returning memories and figuring out that a lot of the stuff that I thought I knew, was not true. On the first day of brain assessment, my learning and memory was dismal or worse, I could barely remember my own name, but it didn't take long, a few weeks, before I was smarter than before. Smarter as in learning faster.

It looks that you don't exactly get smartet but you get your "eyes and brain opened for new informations" after amnesia. I think everybody of us could do that with some hard work, but most of humans decide to just accept some things as fact and don't care anymore. After your "learning state" you saw that a lot of your thoughts was wrong and you decided to look for informations, do i'm wrong now? Maybe because of that you don't remember some things? Because you get so many info going on in your brain? It's really interesting... It looks that you brain started to work like a brain of a child - learn fast, don't remember too long to learn new things about these? We're in theories terytory here! ;d

[Necronomocoins]

It looks that you don't exactly get smartet but you get your "eyes and brain opened for new informations" after amnesia. I think everybody of us could do that with some hard work, but most of humans decide to just accept some things as fact and don't care anymore. After your "learning state" you saw that a lot of your thoughts was wrong and you decided to look things? Because you get so many info going on in your brain? It's really interesting... It looks for informations, do i'm wrong now? Maybe because of that you don't remember some that you brain started to work like a brain of a child - learn fast, don't remember too long to learn new things about these? We're in theories terytory here! ;d

Yes, thank you, what you said seems to make a lot of sense. With newly learned information that I deem worthy, I can try to commit it to memory, but, much like as a child I frequently forget very important things, but this seems to be improving by very small increments, very slowly.

[Adamiks]

Well... Didn't though you will find it interesting. It's like i'm 14 and my medical "informations" are mostly get from internet (i didn't learned about brain too much in school, but i'm interested in all medical-related stuff though) or logicial understanding (imagination?) of how it can works ;d