ICE SHEET - build walls using ice

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Quote from: AruBun on August 13, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
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Yeah, you discussed a lot about igloos. The no tools thing doesn't matter since we don't use tools for anything unless it's a table. Even with that idea, they'd still freeze to death if they couldn't produce heat using what materials they spawn on the ice sheet with on the first day or as they tried to sleep through the night.

Quote from: killer117 on August 13, 2015, 07:26:40 AM
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As for this, balance matters more then realism. You need the resources that all maps have in mountains, the ores and such. You couldn't have pure ice mountains on an ice sheet, as you'd be completely devoid of resources except for ice and snow and what you start with.
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killer117

Ok. Ive said this three times now. Its a pure ice mountain, WITH the ores in it. All we replace is the stone. So u keep compacted plasteel
And steel. Ok. I put another post up saying this already
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Quote from: Z0MBIE2 on August 13, 2015, 03:15:32 PM
Quote from: AruBun on August 13, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
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Yeah, you discussed a lot about igloos. The no tools thing doesn't matter since we don't use tools for anything unless it's a table. Even with that idea, they'd still freeze to death if they couldn't produce heat using what materials they spawn on the ice sheet with on the first day or as they tried to sleep through the night.

Quote from: killer117 on August 13, 2015, 07:26:40 AM
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As for this, balance matters more then realism. You need the resources that all maps have in mountains, the ores and such. You couldn't have pure ice mountains on an ice sheet, as you'd be completely devoid of resources except for ice and snow and what you start with.

The 'no tools thing' matters for the sake of realism, for plausibility, and that's always an important aspect in any kind of science fiction. It also matters for the sake of the niche I was explaining. Also, igloos are warmer on the inside purely from the presence of people. It doesn't need a heat source to be warmer. If it did require a heater, that too would defeat my whole point.

I think you missed both the point and the niche.

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You know, that's actually a really cool idea. Not bad.
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Okay killer, just tell me how steel ore somehow ended up in a mountain of ice. And the ore would have to be edited to look like it's ore stuck in ice instead of by itself, because it would look bad to have a mountain of blueish whitish ice and then ore being randomly around it.
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Well,

(a) it's not ore (there is no such thing as "steel ore" and plasteel is completely ficticious), and;
(b) the same way it's anywhere else, because the steel and plasteel deposits are from a collapsed structure or ship as the lore (and description of the deposits) state.  ie, Superman's fortress of solitude long after he died.

Not that "mountains of ice" is very accurate, the proper term is a glacier and they are not mountains themselves but cover mountains, etc.  So, exterior layers of ice and snow but it would still be a proper stone mountain otherwise.  Also, that gives the ability to tunnel into the softer glacial snow and ice before having to dig deeper into the harder mountain.
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Huh, I didn't realize that's where the resources come from in the lore. And yeah, you could have it as an outer layer of a mountain, how capable would it be to code that though? I honestly don't know.
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