[W | 0.12.906] Manhunter pack unrealistic vulnerable when sleeping.

[Mihsan]

- What the circumstances were:
I get huge pack of manhunters event (tested with wargs and boars). I get inside of my base and wait for pack to go asleep.

- What happened:
I get out and shot manhunters one by one. Only the damaged animal wakes up. Others are ignoring anything, what is happening (colonists runing around, firing noise, wounded animal noise?). Super easy way to get tones of meat.

-What you expected to happen:
I expected all pack to wake up and attack me. Just another way to die.

-How we can reproduce the bug. This part is important!
Attack sleeping manhunter pack.

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[Play2Jens]

Would it be possible to make a code concerning group behavior? If one wakes up, all the other would wake up?

[Coenmcj]

Would it be possible to make a code concerning group behavior? If one wakes up, all the other would wake up?

Like the equivalent of the whole angry critter being hunted event? Where you shoot one, and the herd stampedes.

[Mihsan]

Would it be possible to make a code concerning group behavior? If one wakes up, all the other would wake up?

IMO it should be individual behavior. Shoting gun closer than X meters from sleeping animal: it wakes up.

Because group members could be too far away from each other for this to make sense.

[b0rsuk]

I'm impressed the animal even waked up! When I normally hunt with a survival rifle, animals are still asleep when shot.

[Jinxed]

Would it be possible to make a code concerning group behavior? If one wakes up, all the other would wake up?

IMO it should be individual behavior. Shoting gun closer than X meters from sleeping animal: it wakes up.

Because group members could be too far away from each other for this to make sense.

Groupmember wakes up
If another groupmember in range of 20 tiles -> He wakes up.

Here, fixed.

[Play2Jens]

Would it be possible to make a code concerning group behavior? If one wakes up, all the other would wake up?

IMO it should be individual behavior. Shoting gun closer than X meters from sleeping animal: it wakes up.

Because group members could be too far away from each other for this to make sense.

Yeah, adding some sort of hearing intelligence into the game is a future must for the game. I guess it's kind of complicated to program.

But yeah, imagine yourself attacking sleeping raiders at night, only equipped with silenced shotguns or snipers.

[Jinxed]

Yeah, adding some sort of hearing intelligence into the game is a future must for the game. I guess it's kind of complicated to program.

If created noise -> travel noise by x tiles.
If noise dampening objects encountered during travel -> stop noise travel
If noise reaches NPC -> NPC reacts.

Thats pretty much all about it.

[Mihsan]

Thats pretty much all about it.

Some details: there is also health stat, which is hearing. And also some creatures have better hearing, than the others.

[Jinxed]

Valid point.
If created noise -> travel noise by X tiles with Z of initial loudness
By each travelled tile -> decrease the loudness by set value
If noise dampening objects encountered during travel -> dampen the loudness by Y
If loudness of noise >= hearing ability of NPC to which noise arrived -> NPC reacts to noise

[Tynan]

Basic case is handled for A12b. Pawns now wake when harmed.

For group waking, I'll have to evaluate whether/how to do that later.

Thanks.