[A13] Food Preservation 1.2 Now with Nutrient Nuggets! (6/5/2016)

Started by Loki88, October 24, 2015, 12:17:19 AM

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What do you use the most?

Smoked Meat
5 (17.2%)
Dried Berries
2 (6.9%)
Ration Packs
10 (34.5%)
Nutrient Nuggets
3 (10.3%)
Equal Use Mostly
7 (24.1%)
A Few Things Together (please comment to specify)
2 (6.9%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Loki88

Does what it says on the tin.

Adds a few new recipes to the campfire and to both stoves, as well as some new meals and a couple custom thoughts.

Ration Packs

Smoked Meat

Dried Berries

Nutrient Nuggets



Save game friendly and should play nice with all other mods.

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Cataphract


Smexy_Vampire

so rastions are like bad servival food ? its nutra paste that wont spoil ?

Loki88

Quote from: Smexy_Vampire on October 24, 2015, 12:59:41 AM
so rastions are like bad servival food ? its nutra paste that wont spoil ?

It's less of a mood hit than nutrient paste ( paste is -4 and stacks to 3  ). If you've ever had rations before, some of them can be pretty nasty, some are not to bad either. It's a pretty mild mood hit, I made them as a "just in case" kind of meal. The idea being to have some of these made up and saved in case of things hitting the fan, or a really hard start, not intended as a main meal source.

Loki88

The poll is just to see if you guys think I should keep the dried berries and smoked meat as meals in and of themselves. Or change them to be considered a vegetable and a meat by the game so they can be used to make other recipes. Basically making it so you're preserving your raw food w/o refrigeration for later use.

Also if there's any other preserved foods you'd like to see added in, let me know and I will do what I can :)

Loki88

Quote from: Cataphract on October 24, 2015, 12:57:04 AM
This is a great mod. Thanks for making it!

You're very welcome :)
I hope you enjoy your ration packs  :P

Cataphract

Quote from: Loki88 on October 24, 2015, 01:32:26 AM
You're very welcome :)
I hope you enjoy your ration packs  :P

Sure thing. In regards to more preserved foods, what about turning corn and potatoes into cornstarch and potato starch for long-term storage and then the ability to make biscuits from them? These biscuits could then be added to meals or eaten on their own... maybe higher-quality versions of these taste better but don't keep as long.

Loki88

Quote from: Cataphract on October 24, 2015, 01:46:47 AM
Quote from: Loki88 on October 24, 2015, 01:32:26 AM
You're very welcome :)
I hope you enjoy your ration packs  :P

Sure thing. In regards to more preserved foods, what about turning corn and potatoes into cornstarch and potato starch for long-term storage and then the ability to make biscuits from them? These biscuits could then be added to meals or eaten on their own... maybe higher-quality versions of these taste better but don't keep as long.

The starches and breads are kinda covered in dismar's vegetable garden mod and I want to try and avoid too much mod overlap if I can. What I can do though is add some things like potato flakes or the like to be used as a veggie. I'm thinking of some more advanced ration type meals I can add later on. I take FOREVER to code things and even longer to do any art work I might require so it could take me a bit :P

Wex

Quote from: Loki88 on October 24, 2015, 01:22:05 AM
The poll is just to see if you guys think I should keep the dried berries and smoked meat as meals in and of themselves. Or change them to be considered a vegetable and a meat by the game so they can be used to make other recipes. Basically making it so you're preserving your raw food w/o refrigeration for later use.

Also if there's any other preserved foods you'd like to see added in, let me know and I will do what I can :)
Actually, cooking with dried meat, berries and all kinds of dried beans can be done. It usually requiers water to "wake it up" for consumption, and is usually kept for a soup. It yo are half a decent cook you could prepare quite some dishes. :)
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Loki88

Quote from: Wex on October 24, 2015, 02:25:51 PM
Quote from: Loki88 on October 24, 2015, 01:22:05 AM
The poll is just to see if you guys think I should keep the dried berries and smoked meat as meals in and of themselves. Or change them to be considered a vegetable and a meat by the game so they can be used to make other recipes. Basically making it so you're preserving your raw food w/o refrigeration for later use.

Also if there's any other preserved foods you'd like to see added in, let me know and I will do what I can :)
Actually, cooking with dried meat, berries and all kinds of dried beans can be done. It usually requiers water to "wake it up" for consumption, and is usually kept for a soup. It yo are half a decent cook you could prepare quite some dishes. :)

I'm hoping to add a bunch more over time. I'm thinking of keeping the smoked meat and dried berries as they are but adding dried vegetable flakes to be used as an ingredient for other cooking. I want to make a meat equivalent but can't think of anything other than protein powder as a dried "meat source" I know there's gotta be something better but my brain doesn't want to co-operate.

harpo99999

possible ideas for preservation of meat are
smoked
jerky
dried
de-hydrated

Wex

There's also lyophilization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeze-drying
It's quite a remarkable kind of dry food; without lenghty explanation, dried food won't reaquire moisture (unless soaked and boiled) and can be stored at room temperature.
Dry risotto, anyone?
"You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant."
    Harlan Ellison

Loki88

Quote from: Wex on October 24, 2015, 09:16:50 PM
There's also lyophilization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeze-drying
It's quite a remarkable kind of dry food; without lenghty explanation, dried food won't reaquire moisture (unless soaked and boiled) and can be stored at room temperature.
Dry risotto, anyone?

I'm thinking of adding a freeze-dryer. It's just gonna take me a while because of time constraints with RL and my slow modding speed :P

Playbahnosh

How about MRE (Meal Ready-to-Eat)? It's a quasi-full course pre-cooked meal in a pack, even has it's own chemical heater, main dish, side dish, crackers, drink mix, coffee, chocolate, vitamin supplements, utensils etc, all you need is a source of water and you can have a kinda civilized lunch literally anywhere. On top of being small, incredibly filling, some of them even tastes pretty good, it's cheap and has a room-temperature shelf-life of about a decade (multiple when frozen). There are military and civilian variants too. Make it tradable only (can't really manufacture them at home), it requires no cooking but eating one should take longer than other food. it also should be way more filling than survival rations and give positive mood (about the same as simple meals).

The other end is C-rat (combat ration). This is the real survival stuff. It's basically a can of thick high-calorie goop of questionable origin, seasoned with preservatives and the screams of the damned. It tastes like failure but it's small, cheap and keeps you alive. It's basically an evil version of nutrient-paste, but it has a shelf-life of FOREVER. Also trader only, but should be sold in 200pcs crates and DIRT CHEAP. Half the fill and eating time of a simple meal and at least -5 morale. It should be the last choice of any colonist to eat (on par with roadkill and dirt), but could be a good alternative for hard starts (ice sheet, etc).

Smoked/salted meats and jerky, it's already there, but I think they should store longer. Also, dried/pruned fruits.

How about jams, jelly and pickles? Could be made from berries, fruit, veggies, other stuff, can be prepared at the stove. Lower nutrition but stores way longer than the ingredients themselves. Could be eaten raw, but also used for cooking meals. No change in mood.

My last idea is a canning machine. It uses energy and metal, and should require research, but you could can practically everything. Uses about 5 metal and 5 food item per can, lowers nutrition, but stores for years and can be used for cooking. Maybe with research you could can meals too, which is good nutrition, needs no cooking but gives negative mood ("Ate canned food" -3, etc). The empty cans could be recycled at the slag furnace. Could be a nice alternative to the walk-in freezer.

I think the freeze-dryer is a pretty far fetched option. Freeze-drying removes moisture, it is mostly used to reduce weight, which is great for transport and essential for space missions for example, but would be pretty redundant at a colony like this. Aside from being a pretty complex machine with high energy demand, the end result is questionable at best. Plus, freeze-dried stuff needs special containers (vacuum-packing) and storage to prevent re-hydration. Sure, it stores for ages under the right condition, but it usually tastes nasty and nutrition isn't great either with all sorts of oils and other soluble stuff lost in the dehydration process.
Nevertheless, it could be an interesting addition.

Boston

IS there any possibility this mod could be updated to A13? Really useful