Hunting Accidents

Started by Mikhail Reign, April 10, 2016, 03:56:54 AM

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Mikhail Reign

I reading Ty's responses on reddit about hunting accidents and I was wondering why the focus is on the shooter, instead of the person who gets shot? Colonists will avoid a tile that has fire in it, they also will avoid rooms that are too hot/cold.

Wouldn't an easy way around this be to give hunters a cone in front of them that colonists will avoid/get out of and then have a wait on the hunters end to give them time to vamoose?

Mihsan

Quote from: Mikhail Reign on April 10, 2016, 03:56:54 AM
I reading Ty's responses on reddit about hunting accidents and I was wondering why the focus is on the shooter, instead of the person who gets shot? Colonists will avoid a tile that has fire in it, they also will avoid rooms that are too hot/cold.

Wouldn't an easy way around this be to give hunters a cone in front of them that colonists will avoid/get out of and then have a wait on the hunters end to give them time to vamoose?
Sounds reasonable enough. Could also use that new feature (run from danger with that "!" sign).
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Rock5

Yeah. All in all I think hunting should be a lot safer than battles. It would be a complete act of incompetence and negligence for a hunter to accidentally shoot a colonist. It shouldn't be a common occurrence.
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Mufflamingo

I hunt manually. XD XD XD
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Voeter

Quote from: Rock5 on April 15, 2016, 12:44:10 AM
Yeah. All in all I think hunting should be a lot safer than battles. It would be a complete act of incompetence and negligence for a hunter to accidentally shoot a colonist. It shouldn't be a common occurrence.

weeeelll, let's just say that dick cheney is a crack shot in comparison to most of the pawns running around in my little camp xD
I mean... don't you have hunters trying to use their sniper rifle at a sleeping animal and missing 10x in a row? not to mention when they run up at point blank range to finish the future fine meal off and miss another 5 shots? :P

Mufflamingo

Quote from: Voeter on April 16, 2016, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: Rock5 on April 15, 2016, 12:44:10 AM
Yeah. All in all I think hunting should be a lot safer than battles. It would be a complete act of incompetence and negligence for a hunter to accidentally shoot a colonist. It shouldn't be a common occurrence.

weeeelll, let's just say that dick cheney is a crack shot in comparison to most of the pawns running around in my little camp xD
I mean... don't you have hunters trying to use their sniper rifle at a sleeping animal and missing 10x in a row? not to mention when they run up at point blank range to finish the future fine meal off and miss another 5 shots? :P

How can they miss sleeping/non-moving targets at point blank range, they should really change this. =.=
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Quote from: Mufflamingo on April 16, 2016, 05:45:41 PM
Quote from: Voeter on April 16, 2016, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: Rock5 on April 15, 2016, 12:44:10 AM
Yeah. All in all I think hunting should be a lot safer than battles. It would be a complete act of incompetence and negligence for a hunter to accidentally shoot a colonist. It shouldn't be a common occurrence.

Yeah, point blank vs. incapacitated target needs a bigger aim boost. I've seen a shooter with 12 skill and a good charge rifle miss 4 bursts at point blank against a capybara.

weeeelll, let's just say that dick cheney is a crack shot in comparison to most of the pawns running around in my little camp xD
I mean... don't you have hunters trying to use their sniper rifle at a sleeping animal and missing 10x in a row? not to mention when they run up at point blank range to finish the future fine meal off and miss another 5 shots? :P

How can they miss sleeping/non-moving targets at point blank range, they should really change this. =.=

EDIT: seems that if a thread gets moved while people are replying, it doesn't save non quoted text.

I saw a person with 12 shooting miss a downed Capybara at point blank range with 4 bursts from a good charge rifle. That seems a bit silly.

Silvador

I touched on this in another thread not too long ago.

Quote from: Silvador on April 10, 2016, 04:28:13 AM
Why fix the shooter when we can fix the guy wandering into the fire? Instead of having the guy shooting stop shooting, allow allies to detect the cone of a shooter's aim and recognise that they are firing and act accordingly. They already can flee from threats, so implement that same mechanic.

"Oh, that guy is firing over there. I better not walk in front of him."

And, of course, allow us to manually overwrite this AI with the draft command and pet commands (if added).

RemingtonRyder

I was assaulting a poison ship the other day. One of my pawns is pouring shotgun shells into it, the other one is running interference.

Unfortunately, I run her right into the path of fire and she gets her hand blown off. Ouchies.

thedee05

Someone didn't take hunter safety training. Blaze Orange.

hyperkiller

I either have only 1 hunter or only designate 1 target at a time, or just make them all melee with the best armor / swords if possible

Voeter

Quote from: hyperkiller on April 16, 2016, 11:13:14 PM
I either have only 1 hunter or only designate 1 target at a time, or just make them all melee with the best armor / swords if possible

Melee hunting seems even more risky to me. Simply not done to anything as strong as or stronger than a boar imho and even a silly squirrel can net you a nice (eye) scar that'll permanently debuff your pawn. Having just 1 hunter usually works, but it seems a shame you "have" to, no?

Negocromn

melee hunting is a meme, you'll destroy your armor, waste time and medicine healing up and risk serious injury for nothing

mumblemumble

Melee hunting works for high skill,  high armored people vs tiny animals. A guy with a spear vs a squirrel I'm OK with, but good luck with a deer or boar.

Heck,  i often draft people into hit squads just for safety,  an lmg / m16 to kill bear,  then capture it.

Why to people worry about following their heart? Its lodged in your chest, you won't accidentally leave it behind.

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