(Not) Harnessing the bugs

Started by Grizzlyadamz, April 26, 2016, 09:49:47 PM

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Grizzlyadamz

@too-DAMN-much
Hmm yeah, wiki's saying solid rock walls are 'connected to the outside' & try to equalize heat.
What I take from that though is you need an air-gap to really insulate everything.

@b0rsuk
I'm wary of setting up turrets for a couple reasons- in previous versions they'd increase raid sizes. They'd also cause more collateral damage through bullets/explosions/fires, and they are more likely to be destroyed by the bugs. Not to mention the power cost. Sure a bank of heaters that big scarfs down power, but a single turret is worth 3.5 heaters. A bank of 3 turrets is probably the minimum, which is ~10 heaters of power, and they might need to be on 24/7 if the bugs attack them on-sight (while the heaters would, Ideally, be switched on, reach their target temp, and maintain it for a few hours).
Plus using heat to clean them out without a fuss is just a cool way to do it.

How successful are turret setups anyway? (been away from my PC, so I haven't actually destroyed the hive yet)

b0rsuk

So far I exterminate bugs on sight, I'm just thinking aloud. If bug spawns were more regular, you could just flick a switch when it's about to happen and hope for no solar flare. Incendiary IED is worth trying in buffer zone because it triggers as soon as bugs spawn, and doesn't care how many there are in the blast zone. All burning pawns stop attacking turrets. Burning ground tends to set bugs on fire, too (I cleared a hive with incendiary launcher once). Maybe you could add a few stone deadfall traps ? Bugs would trigger them when running around burning.

Time-based switches would be nice. Pressure plates would be even better.

Grizzlyadamz

Bugs are pretty resilient as far as traps are concerned, I don't think that's a viable method unless you're running in every 24 hours to finish it off & rearm the traps. And actual fire is a no-no; burns up the jelly, the carcasses, the hive.

Vaporisor

Quote from: Grizzlyadamz on April 30, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Bugs are pretty resilient as far as traps are concerned, I don't think that's a viable method unless you're running in every 24 hours to finish it off & rearm the traps. And actual fire is a no-no; burns up the jelly, the carcasses, the hive.

I wonder how it works for the freezing.  I have a map seed that is the most extreme cold I have found and wanting to try.  I have pondered airlock system for it before the bugs.  Now I wonder if I can use it to my advantage.  Freeze farm bugs.  When bugs appear, shut off heat, and flood the area with gold.  Harvest and repeat.
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Grizzlyadamz

Cold destroys the hive before it kills the bugs.
And hives only spawn under mountains & above 17C, so if your bedrooms/growing area etc are the only things that meet those criteria, they'll get hit hard.

Vaporisor

Aww darn if it freezes the hives.  Guess that was thought of before release.  As for rooms and stuff, that is part of the fun ^>^
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koisama

Cold is a nice method if you want to get rid of infestation without too much of a risk. Once the hive is destroyed, bugs become passive and won't respond to your attacks.

Too-DAMN-Much

Quote from: Vaporisor on April 30, 2016, 04:55:43 PM
Aww darn if it freezes the hives.  Guess that was thought of before release.  As for rooms and stuff, that is part of the fun ^>^

tempted to ask how freezing the hive destroys it, bit of a stretch there, but realistically i already know the answer is tynan wants us to work harder than that.
either way, that's a little bit of a shame, there goes my idea of flip-flopping a room back and forth between fridge/freezer mode.

Grizzlyadamz

Quote from: koisama on April 30, 2016, 04:57:16 PM
Cold is a nice method if you want to get rid of infestation without too much of a risk. Once the hive is destroyed, bugs become passive and won't respond to your attacks.
That's actually a bug- I think tynan mentioned it