Transgender bathrooms? What's next?

Started by skinicism, August 05, 2016, 11:43:38 PM

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skinicism

Transgender discrimination in pharmacy access rights (rights to have

drugs provided solely by a transgender representative) and some

immigrants being deemed transgender illiterate deviants according to

psychological evaluations?

milon

That may depend on who gets elected this fall in the USA. :P

Kegereneku

Next : "Right" for any store-clerk to refuse to serve gay, less or trans do stuff against their religion ?
LGBT being preemptively considered as multi-recidivist sex-criminal for safety ?
Tax for LGBT people to finance some "increased medical expense" ?
Obligation for couple with Children-care job to conform to Gender-role "Husband and submissive Wife" nuclear-family ?
Requirement for any women whishing to abort to get 10 costly medical check-up and husband authorization ?

Recent news clearly demonstrated that some bigot will actually try to pass laws like that under an obscure forms
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mumblemumble

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My guess would be the legalization of pedophilia, sadly, somewhere down the road will be pushed

Theres already "discussions" about how it is "normal" and how "they are just attracted to something different than you".

This would be horrific if it would happen, mind, and not many will even want to admit this is possible. But, there's already discussions, similar to the ones in the 90s around gays

Also keg, what? Laws, and federal pushes for this are completely going against what you are saying. SC is a minority for its bathroom law against trans, and they get MAD pressure not to do it. Paypal leaving, NBA leaving, tourism, ect (I really should travel there though, for this reason)

Though to be honest, there's evidence supporting most of those actually beneficial...besides the expensive medical check ups, but getting husband consent I think makes PERFECT sense. Its a decision by 2 people to make it (unless rape) so getting rid of it should be too.
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SpaceDorf

So the solution would be to have non-gendered bathrooms.

Or to not give a fuck .. women bathrooms are a question of safety and hygene for women.
And since there are only stalls anyway, who cares. If it looks like a woman he/she/it should go to a womens bathroom.
If he/she/it messes up the place he/she/it is an asshole. This holds true for male and female bathrooms.

And concerning Laws. Anything that gives Religions or Gender Issues a grip in politics is wrong.
In my oppinion both are nothing more than freedom of speech. You are allowed to have them and express them while everybody else is allowed to disagree with you.
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mumblemumble

I do suppose those bathrooms could work, possibly, but more likely in an armed society...armed society is a polite society.
Why to people worry about following their heart? Its lodged in your chest, you won't accidentally leave it behind.

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mumblemumble

I saw that, thank god.... Hope its permanent. way too many issues with it, and really, transition is a CHOICE, unlike race. No amount of wishing I was another race would make me another race =)
Why to people worry about following their heart? Its lodged in your chest, you won't accidentally leave it behind.

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Its bad because reasons, and if you don't know the reasons, you are horrible. You cannot ask what the reasons are or else you doubt it. But the reasons are irrefutable. Logic.

Kegereneku

Pff... the bigot are getting desperate. All they can do is throw spanners in the working of democracy to prevent progress because they know nobody would support their baseless hates & dogma. If we let ultraconservative impose their rules, slavery and skin-color discrimination would still be a things and womens would be second-class citizen (if not property) only good to be "mama role model".

You simply can't pretend to protect freedom and Human right's if you discriminate based on social dogma disconnected from reality.
It's just a shame America can be short-circuited by unelected bureaucrat. Like the global-warming negationism, everything that need to be done will happen to late to save the planet.

Another stupid "What's next ?"
-> religious judge will claim that transgender shouldn't be allowed to wear clothes not made for their birth-gender
or
-> religious judge will claim that transgender shouldn't be allowed to get surgery that make them look something else than their birth-gender

that or some religious fuck will claim that rape can't happen within marriage and that women can't abort at all without her husband approval.
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SpaceDorf

Well someone should remind them of the seperation of state and church. ( thats at least on paper in most democratic countries )

IMHO decissions based on the religion of the deciding party should be instantly dismissed and the party be removed from office.
Or else the opposing party should be allowed to invoke the invisible flying spaghetti monster to support their own claim. ( to bad it is still no official religion .. )

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KillTyrant

Never really understood why it was a big deal to begin with. People who were trans were and already are using what ever rest room they want. This law was meant to prevent discrimination against less than 1% of the total pop.

Kegereneku

Quote from: KillTyrant on August 24, 2016, 09:50:05 PM
Never really understood why it was a big deal to begin with. People who were trans were and already are using what ever rest room they want. This law was meant to prevent discrimination against less than 1% of the total pop.

The big deal is that "Creating a problem where there was none" is what the North-Carolina law-maker try to do.

They knew they would get no support saying "Transgender are to be considered as sex criminal and discriminated against", so they phrased it another way "We (pretend to) want to protect women and will do so in a way that make Transgender life hellish by implying they are hiding sex criminal".
It doesn't matter if it doesn't actually reduce crime, all that matter for them is that they look like the one trying to prevent crime and that Transgender get bashed in the process.

Furthermore,
Even if it's ridiculously impossible to enforce their anti-trans law (scanner in front of every toilet), they know that if they managed to add a law they could pass other discriminatory laws based on "a law that exist, so it must be working".
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KillTyrant

Quote from: Kegereneku on August 25, 2016, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: KillTyrant on August 24, 2016, 09:50:05 PM
Never really understood why it was a big deal to begin with. People who were trans were and already are using what ever rest room they want. This law was meant to prevent discrimination against less than 1% of the total pop.

The big deal is that "Creating a problem where there was none" is what the North-Carolina law-maker try to do.

They knew they would get no support saying "Transgender are to be considered as sex criminal and discriminated against", so they phrased it another way "We (pretend to) want to protect women and will do so in a way that make Transgender life hellish by implying they are hiding sex criminal".
It doesn't matter if it doesn't actually reduce crime, all that matter for them is that they look like the one trying to prevent crime and that Transgender get bashed in the process.

Furthermore,
Even if it's ridiculously impossible to enforce their anti-trans law (scanner in front of every toilet), they know that if they managed to add a law they could pass other discriminatory laws based on "a law that exist, so it must be working".

So you agree with me that its not a big deal. Im not sure if you are arguing with me becauss you misunderstood my point or if you are trying to pick apart my chosen turn of phase. If its the latter than I dont really care for pedantic arguments based on personal interpretation.

keylocke

when i was a kid, i used to fantasize about pamela anderson, like putting her inside a sack and then running away towards the sunset beach.. so if she suddenly teleported in front of me wearing a lifeguard swimsuit bikini, i would've totally banged her 24/7 if she'd let me.

but in a hypocritical society, old folks would've labeled me as a "victim" and if pamela anderson would've allowed me to bang her, they'd call her a pedophile and get her banhammered for life.

what a silly world we live in.

KillTyrant

Quote from: keylocke on August 26, 2016, 02:23:21 AM
when i was a kid, i used to fantasize about pamela anderson, like putting her inside a sack and then running away towards the sunset beach.. so if she suddenly teleported in front of me wearing a lifeguard swimsuit bikini, i would've totally banged her 24/7 if she'd let me.

but in a hypocritical society, old folks would've labeled me as a "victim" and if pamela anderson would've allowed me to bang her, they'd call her a pedophile and get her banhammered for life.

what a silly world we live in.

3 things.

First. Cool Story Bro

Second. Did you still your "dream" from Borat?

Third. How in the heck does that statement even relate to the OP's question?