forced prostitution

Started by newboerg, December 15, 2016, 06:07:36 AM

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newboerg

What about an option to put a prisoner into a prostitute, so that your ugly people can get some "relief".
I mean you can butcher your prisoners for their organs, so morals should not be a problem here.
Its even canon because i once had a "sex slave" colonist. So there are Sex Slaves in the Rimverse.

Could have a debuff for non psychopaths like butchering humans.

what do you think?

alsoandanswer

doesn't feel like it fits in well

i mean, if you have ugly colonists just make them work the night shift

i don't mind wearing a hat made out of the skin out of my enemies, but have some decency man


"If I quote some smart guy, then therefore I should be smart myself!" -alsoandanswer

ArguedPiano

Some topics hit a little too close to home for some people.

This, is probably one of those topics.

We're playing a Science Fiction GAME afterall. I see no place for rape in Rimworld.
The only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down.

newboerg

You mean its ok to do whatever you like to your prisoners, including amputating their limps just for fun.
But sticking something up their *** is not to GAME-like?

Plymouth

Quote from: ArguedPiano on December 15, 2016, 06:32:22 AM
Some topics hit a little too close to home for some people.

This, is probably one of those topics.

We're playing a Science Fiction GAME afterall. I see no place for rape in Rimworld.

if there is cannibalism, murder, slavery, organ harvesting, why say no to rape?
But in real life, if you aren't a psychopath, chances are you won't be able to have enjoyable sex with a person who doesn't want it. As long as you remember that majority people can't commit rape, as well as can't kill another person, or can't eat another person  without extremely strong motivator, I think it's a pretty solid ground to stand on. Only psychopaths and morally despicable individuals will engage, and only as a spontaneous mechanic over which you have no control, then it would make sense. But to create a sex slave you would need the whole colony of psychopaths, otherwise it might as well be just a slave since, well, people usually do not enjoy raping or being raped so the slave would be left alone.

TL;DR: I only see "forcelovin' slaves" activity as a spontaneous by-product of a psychopath trait.

Goldenpotatoes

Just with majority of these suggestions, take a moment to look at the feature you're currently suggesting, and go: "Would this enhance gameplay enough to be worth adding?"

I can't think of any circumstance where what is essentially rape would actively enhance the game past the shock factor of 'wow they actually put that in the game?'


newboerg

#6
Whats the benefit?
well, the "had sex" Buff is quite strong, and quite implossible to have for "ugly" people.

Offtopic, there is forced prostitution IRL too and NOT only psychopaths use those services.

EDIT:
I know i am riding an edge here, but its something to think about, and it could be imoplementet with low "cost"

Plymouth

Best solution to this problem is: make a mod.

newboerg

No solution at all. because this is a suggetion thread and not a mod thread. And i wanted to make a suggestion to an aspect of the game thats already in the rimverse background but not in the game.

It is of course not good to promote rape culture, but its not good promoting murder either so i think its a viable suggestion to talk about. Maybe an abstract aspect of it could be implemented. fo example aquirable "sex slave" trait. for a person that shares a bed with whomever the player decides.

Plymouth

#9
It is a solution since you will recieve the content you need without highlighting tynan as a person who made game which features rape, during the times when topic of rape is tolerated severely worse than topics of murder, cannibalism, or slavery.

newboerg

i have to disagree, not because of the latter argument which i agree but if you extend your first argument EVERY Suggestion could be put down to "Just make a Mod that does this" and then there would only be suggestions left like "Make Rimworld 3d"-things that cannot be done with mods.

Plymouth


Scythah

There was outrage over the relationship system... I can only imagine the RPS article if this concept was included. Not that I think it wouldn't be feasible or anything, but it's one of those things that would undoubtedly generate bad publicity for not a whole lot of benefit.

A Friend

#13
Would cause more trouble than it's worth.

Quote from: Plymouth on December 15, 2016, 06:43:51 AM
if there is cannibalism, murder, slavery, organ harvesting, why say no to rape?
Quote from: newboerg on December 15, 2016, 06:36:38 AM
You mean its ok to do whatever you like to your prisoners, including amputating their limps just for fun.
But sticking something up their *** is not to GAME-like?

By those logic, there'd be no problem adding in child pornography in incredibly violent games yet you won't even find someone dare to even think of doing it. Just because X is okay in something doesn't mean Y is too. There's a line you gotta draw somewhere. It differs for person to person. Some draw the line with gays and lesbians while others with children. But personally, I don't think rape/forced sex fits Rimworld. Lore and background-wise sure, it's fine but as a game mechanic it'd be uncomfortable for quite a lot of people. Therefore not worth it.

Regarding murder, torture, cannibalism, slavery, organ farms and the like. It's okay here because it creates some really absurd situations that just makes you laugh instead of coming off as disturbing.

Yes, this is the suggestions forum and you're free to suggest things. We're here to find flaws in suggestions and ways to improve it. Sadly, I doubt forced sex is something likely added to the base game in the future.

Edit:
Only things I can see working well from the suggestion is a new trait: Traumatized (Some events will cause pawns to break instantly and cry on the floor or hide in their room for a few hours.)
And different flavor text for wanderers and chased refugees.

"A woman clad in worn clothing hails your colony from afar. She seems withdrawn and in a very rough condition. You notice chain marks on her hands and feet, those usually found in slaves. She offers to join your colony."
"For you, the day Randy graced your colony with a game-ending raid was the most memorable part of your game. But for Cassandra, it was Tuesday"

Squiggly lines you call drawings aka "My Deviantart page"

Plymouth

This line will sooner or later be gone(not talking about rimworld obviously, just globally), much like the lines of death, murder, slavery, organ harvesting and whatnot have gone and allowed humour to flow free. "Sex slavery" and "rape" i1s something inevitable that happens all the time, and while twisted, at some point no doubt it will gain it's own branch of dark humour like the other dark topics did. How soon we will accept the topic is the matter of time on how soon we will be able to make comedy out of it. At the moment it's pretty challenging ,that's why nobody is raising it, but if someone finds a way, it surely will become more accepted.