Slave labor

Started by mcawesome, December 22, 2016, 08:19:38 AM

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Zombra

Hahaha.  Yeah, sorry I intruded on your Basement of Anger.  I'll gladly leave you to it - right after Tynan puts up the EDGELORDS ONLY sign.  ("You must be this edgy <--------------> to play Rimworld.")  Hold your breath.

Thirite

You're the only one getting upset here. Who the hell brought up adding child porn into the game? You did. Multiple times. It's kind of disturbing. Slavery has nothing to do with child abuse.

Headshotkill

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Quote from: Zombra on December 23, 2016, 02:03:50 PM
Quote from: Headshotkill on December 23, 2016, 07:04:58 AMYou cannot be a good person if there isn't a choice for evil, if you give someone a drug that makes him imcapable of doing evil things that doesn't make him a good person.
There should be a slavery system, so we can CHOOSE, NOT to conduct slavery.

By that logic, there should also be a rape system, a torture system, a domestic abuse system, and a child pornography system in the game, so we can choose not to use them.  I'm sure Tynan would agree that that's development time well spent.

No that's not my logic, that's just plain wrong.
First, rape is probably a magnitude worse than slavery, slavery is a system where someone loses their freedom and has to obey a master.
There are many examples where slave masters were very humane and respecting to their slaves, like in the Roman empire where house slaves and agriculturale slaves lived decent lives. There were also examples of atrocious acts committed against slaves, like in 18th/19th century America, but we must bring in the racism factor for those times...

What I'm saying is, slavery is a system, a hybrid economic/judicial system. It will probably sound weird to you but slavery on it's own is by definition, a neutral system. Meaning it is neither good or evil, it is the way it is executed that decides it's moral value.

Rape is full blown sexuall assault, it is inherently evil and no matter what way you perform it or what method you use it's evil. Do I want this implemented? NO, IN WHAT ******* WAY DO YOU THINK I WOULD WANT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SHAME.

Child pornography, I'm not even sure if you're serious about this, and it makes me think you know little about this game. Tynan has said he doesn't want people giving birth and children in the game as it doesn't fit the timeframe a single game plays in. And again, DO YOU THINK I'M A F*****G PEDOPHILE WTF!

I feel as though you have very little substance in your arguments, just because your feelings are hurt by a warped mentality of a subject you shouldn't force it upon others and at the same time portray other rational people that you don't agree with as the most evil scum on the earth surface.
This post clearly shows you have nothing to defend your claim, it was a copy paste of your first respons to me. Blatantly accusing me of wanting rape and child pornography in this game, that's it, you expect me to get scared of some buzz words?

vampiresoap

Will everyone just ignore the crazy liberal and get back on topic? They see oppression and injustice everywhere they go. Can't even have a small talk nowadays without offending these unthinking SJW's. They are largely irrelevant in any sort of important discussions anyways, so just ignore them.

Lerin

All hope in 1000101.

If living garbage was enough confident to attack my base, now it need stand face to face with consequences: rebuild my base, pay with organs, starve to death, and rest of body will be used to make kibble or fertilizer...

After this i just shut down computer, and back to real life.

Probably in real life i wont enslave any living creature, better... i will pack old cereal, pet foods and i give it to the animal shelter..

Really people if you are not able to see border between game and life, you should not play any game.

skullywag

Theres too much nonsense in this thread already, keep it ontopic and civil or ill start handing out bans. First and final warning.
Skullywag modded to death.
I'd never met an iterator I liked....until Zhentar saved me.
Why Unity5, WHY do you forsake me?

Lerin

So back to the topic, 1000101 will continue his project ?
i ask in his topic, but still not response

Thirite

1000101 already stated he's not going to complete the mod until RimWorld is in a more complete/less constantly changing state. Maintaining a mod of that scope is not easy.

Zombra

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Quote from: Headshotkill on December 23, 2016, 04:23:31 PMNo that's not my logic, that's just plain wrong.

Um ... that's exactly what you said.  Evil options must be in the game so we can choose to be good.  I didn't make up the part where I quoted you.  It was a quote.

Quote from: Headshotkill on December 23, 2016, 04:23:31 PMThere are many examples where slave masters were very humane and respecting to their slaves

You know what, if you want to play that out, just recruit the prisoner and say he's a 2nd class citizen in your colony.  You don't need a whole human property system to enforce this.

Quote from: Headshotkill on December 23, 2016, 04:23:31 PM[Slavery] is neither good or evil, it is the way it is executed that decides it's moral value.

Wow.  Okay, if that's what you really think, then we're not going to change each other's minds on that point here today.  I will draw your attention to your previous post though, where you advocated "evil" in the game so the player could choose not to indulge it.  This is a direct contradiction to what you just said.  If we're going to debate, please pick one point of view and stick to it :)

If your new platform is "Slavery is good!", I'd love to see you really sell it.  I'm sure Tynan will be easily swayed.

Quote from: Headshotkill on December 23, 2016, 04:23:31 PMRape is full blown sexuall assault, it is inherently evil and no matter what way you perform it or what method you use it's evil. Do I want this implemented? NO, IN WHAT ******* WAY DO YOU THINK I WOULD WANT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SHAME.

I'm glad to hear you say that, but the same arguments are being used in this thread and the "forced prostitution" thread.  "We can harvest organs so we should be able to have slaves."  "We can harvest organs so we should be able to rape prisoners."  There are people in this very thread who think slavery and rape should be in the game for the exact same reason.  If you're not one of them, great; but you may be in a minority.

Quote from: Headshotkill on December 23, 2016, 04:23:31 PMChild pornography, I'm not even sure if you're serious about this, and it makes me think you know little about this game. Tynan has said he doesn't want people giving birth and children in the game as it doesn't fit the timeframe a single game plays in. And again, DO YOU THINK I'M A F*****G PEDOPHILE WTF!

Well again, both this and the previous point were brought up because you advocate evil options in the game (so you can not choose them).  I know Tynan isn't going to make a system for children ... but it wouldn't surprise me to hear that someone wants him to specifically so they can perform child abuse.

Quote from: Headshotkill on December 23, 2016, 04:23:31 PMJust because your feelings are hurt by a warped mentality of a subject you shouldn't force it upon others and at the same time portray other rational people that you don't agree with as the most evil scum on the earth surface.

Hey, I just said I would be happy for there to not be slavery in the game and people started asking for my opinions.  Anybody who wants me to shut up can just stop talking to me - I promise not to reply to myself.

It's informative, though, that so many people think to seem that my "slavery is bad" opinion makes me "warped".   :-\

Quote from: Headshotkill on December 23, 2016, 04:23:31 PMThis post clearly shows you have nothing to defend your claim, it was a copy paste of your first respons to me. Blatantly accusing me of wanting rape and child pornography in this game, that's it, you expect me to get scared of some buzz words?

"Scare" you?  That's not my intent at all.  Why is everybody so quick to attack me based on my imagined intent?  I was just following the logic of what you said: that it's a good thing to have evil options so we can not choose them.  Logically, that means that the more (and more evil!) evil options available in the game, the better.  Therefore, you should want rape in the game.  It's called reductio ad absurdum, which means that sticking to your argument will take you to places you didn't want it to go.  Of course you seem to be abandoning that argument now, so ... I've done my job.  Thanks for reading.


Moderator's edit - This user received a temporary ban in relation to the posts they made in this thread for repeated violations of forum rules 1, 3, 5, and 16.

Calahan

Okay, this is getting locked now, at least temporarily, but probably permanently.

Any sort of suggestion or accusation that other players want to see child abuse implemented in the game is, quite frankly, an utterly disgusting way of thinking. So I'm putting a stop to any such train of thought right now before it gets totally out of hand (if it hasn't already).