Game runs every other day

Started by kuwingto, June 07, 2017, 09:02:58 AM

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kuwingto

#15
There is a process called gameoverlayUI.exe running when I try running rimworld. I don't know what it is.

EDIT: It is a program from valve so I think it does not matters.

kuwingto

Updated List:

What i mean "not work" below means "rimworld cannot run consistently"

I have tried:
1. traditional chinese os + traditional chinese steam + traditional chinese rimworld ==> it is my setup since a15, but not work
2. traditional chinese os + english steam + english  rimworld ==> not work, current setting
3. uninstall + install steam ==> not work
4. uninstall + install rimworld ==> not work
5. unsubscribed all mod ==> not work
6. delete registry ==> not work
7. turn off steam sync ==> not work
8. turn of nvidia share ==> not work
9. restart machine ==> not work
10. uninstall AVG protection ==> not work
11. change back to a17a or a16 ==> not work, I switch back to a17b after the trial
12. All my other games can play in steam. But since this is rimworld forum, I am not writing their names here.
13. End a process root tree vprotection.exe from the process list => not work
14. run steam and rimworld as administrator => not work

milon

Quote from: kuwingto on June 09, 2017, 08:11:48 AM
There is a process called gameoverlayUI.exe running when I try running rimworld. I don't know what it is.

EDIT: It is a program from valve so I think it does not matters.

Correct.  That's the Steam Overlay process which lets you take screenshots etc.  It's fine to leave it running.

kuwingto

I have completely delete vprotection.exe.
I restarted the computer and did not see vprotection.exe in task manager and right after that I ran rimworld. Rimworld got to its start page. I left it there, not clicking anything but watching my process list. Rimworld shut down all of a sudden. I did not notice any new process during the whole period.

Attached is the log.

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kuwingto

Updated List:

What i mean "not work" below means "rimworld cannot run consistently"

I have tried:
1. traditional chinese os + traditional chinese steam + traditional chinese rimworld ==> it is my setup since a15, but not work
2. traditional chinese os + english steam + english  rimworld ==> not work, current setting
3. uninstall + install steam ==> not work
4. uninstall + install rimworld ==> not work
5. unsubscribed all mod ==> not work
6. delete registry ==> not work
7. turn off steam sync ==> not work
8. turn of nvidia share ==> not work
9. restart machine ==> not work
10. uninstall AVG protection ==> not work
11. change back to a17a or a16 ==> not work, I switch back to a17b after the trial
12. All my other games can play in steam. But since this is rimworld forum, I am not writing their names here.
13. End a process root tree vprotection.exe from the process list => not work
14. run steam and rimworld as administrator => not work
15. I deleted all my saves => not work

kuwingto

I finally fix it. This problem should happen in Chinese language using region only. After I uninstall QQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent_QQ
, rimworld runs without terminates. The strange thing is that there is no process from this software in the process list, keeping me from solving this problem.

milon

Thanks for the update!  I'm really glad it works now.  Good job finding the culprit.  That is strange that there was no process running, but it could still shut down RimWorld.  But again, I'm glad it's working now!

nccvoyager

Maybe, with an OS running Chinese language region, QQ modifies the font library in some way that stops RimWorld (or Unity in general) from working properly?
Nothing but guesses from me at this point, admittedly.

..And just a little follow up to my last post; I have found a few programs will "ghost" into a process on first-launch after a system startup for me.
It's weird and quirky, but has no ill effects other than wasting a few seconds of time, and annoying me.

Calahan

That QQ is starting to sound like it acts more like a virus than an app :)

(which wouldn't surprise me as I've had to perform far more O/S reinstalls to deal with arsehole programs that wouldn't p*ss off than I've ever had to perform for actual viruses. If you asked me if I'd rather clean up a computer swamped with viruses, or uninstall say AVG, I'd take the former every time. Although the latter would be quicker since I'd simply reformat the HD straight off and not even waste my time trying to uninstall it, as I'm fairly sure it's impossible since it burrows deeper than any rootkit I've ever come across).

nccvoyager

I have seen similar issues with certain games and Skype in the past as well.
Not sure what causes it exactly.

Yeah, AVG and Norton both.
The reasons supplied by the companies for the anti-virus programs burrowing like that is to prevent viruses from disabling them.
I find RogueKiller useful in uninstalling things like AVG.
Kills the hidden processes so that files can actually be deleted.

Calahan

#25
Yeah, I've heard those excuses before from AVG and Norton, but they sound total BS to me. I've encountered plenty of viruses and such that disable AV's, but no amount of AV burrowing has made any difference in my experience. Since the virus either detects the AV by signature in much the same way the AV detects the virus, or simply by filename (which is ridiculously effective given it's simplicity), and once the AV is detected it gets shutdown / disabled. So yeah, pure BS IMO.

I only discovered RougeKiller about a year or so ago, which is a shame as I've been very impressed with it and I could certainly have benefitted from knowing about it earlier than I did. Been using that along with Malwarebytes for about a year now and between them they seem to detect everything I've encountered in that time. Which hasn't been that much as I don't need to fix as many PC's as I used to as everyone has phones and tablets these days,  and the need for "a friend who can fix computers" has been in decline (which I haven't exactly been complaining about, since I was having to fix about one PC a fortnight at one point, which was more than a bit excessive).

nccvoyager

Yeah, most AV programs fail hard.
My favourite bloatware/malware are any of those "registry cleaner" programs.
"My computer started so much faster!"
"Yeah, well... Half your operating system didn't start, so... Yeah."

Been using RogueKiller coupled with the (now MalwareBytes) AdwCleaner and Junkware Removal Tool for 5 years or so now, myself.
(IIRC, AdwCleaner and JRT used to be coded by unaffiliated coders.)

Anyways, I do believe we have hijacked and bumped this (maybe sort of) solved thread enough now. See you 'round the forums.

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