Memory problems and mod related GREED

Started by Madman666, January 03, 2018, 06:14:36 PM

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Madman666

Quote from: 2.71828 on January 08, 2018, 03:55:56 AM
1. Your sound problems aren't a Linux issue in general, but probably an Ubuntu problem. I hear sounds just fine.

2. Your game not recognising the correct 'version and mod ID number' is probably due to the mod author creating his/her mod on Windows and naming his/her 'About.xml' incorrectly, since Windows isn't case sensitive. It should be 'About.xml' instead of 'about.xml', so if that's the problem, just rename your file and tell the mod author about it. Sadly, Steam seems to be retarded in this regard, as well, so if this is the only thing the mod author changes, AFAIK the Steam workshop won't recognise the changes either and the author might have to add an empty text file to the mod, or something.

3. If you want a Linux distribution that's actually fast, don't use Ubuntu.

1. I hear everything fine as well. As I said earlier the problem is with RW not recognizing mp3 sounds from mods on Linux. It does find, add and use sounds in .ogg or .wav just fine, but absolutely refuses doing so with mp3, showing red error instead. Other applications such as mediaplayers decode and use mp3s withuot problems. Maybe its a Unity thing dunno. Converting problem files to .ogg solved it.

2. It was as you said - lower case was the problem. Thanks for the information, I didn't know that, because on windows these differences doesn't seem to affect anything at all. Notified mod's author, so now everything should be displayed fine.

3. I am intrigued. For me Ubuntu 17.1 works quite fast even comparing to Windows 10 which is in turn quite faster than Windows 7, I used to run before the hardware upgrade. You say there are different Linux builds that even faster than that? Can you share them then? I'd like to try them out to see for myself.

Bozobub

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The FASTEST Linux builds don't even have a GUI, and can be mind-numbingly difficult to use for anyone but an expert (who's somewhat of a masochist, to boot).  Don't let it bother you; use whichever "flavor" of Linux you like.  You'll find that each variant has its high priests, who tolerate no blasphemy or mention of other, heathen versions :P ::).

Some articles that may help:
https://www.lifewire.com/choose-best-linux-distro-for-needs-2201172
http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/best-linux-distro-five-we-recommend-1090058
https://www.linux.com/news/learn/sysadmin/best-linux-distributions-2017%20
https://haydenjames.io/best-linux-distro/

A lot of people I know swear by Mint, for beginners (based on Debian/Ubuntu), for what that's worth, although I personally don't care much about versions on modern machines.
Thanks, belgord!

Madman666

Thanks for your time sharing the links, will be quite interesting reading) And yeah, I am in no way neither a pro, nor masochist, so I'll stick with something with user interface other than black terminal you input commands into. With my hardware, I think, I can spare a small percentage to be used by OS anyway. For now Ubuntu seems to be fast, stable and quite user friendly, save for some weird quirks and similarly weird ways to resolve them.

notfood

I haven't checked but I get no mp3 errors ever, I didn't even notice if mp3 couldn't play.

Madman666

Quote from: notfood on January 08, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
I haven't checked but I get no mp3 errors ever, I didn't even notice if mp3 couldn't play.

Hm, thats strange. I get error about sound clip missing in the dev console of RW whenever I try to play with Rimsenal Enhanced Vanilla mod, which adds some charge-based weapons. One of the weapons weirdly enough has a firing sound clip in mp3 (all other weapons have in ogg) and apparently game can't see it, when I play on Linux (works fine on windows).

Other applications play mp3 sounds quite fine on my Ubuntu, by the way. I quite often listen some music in mp3 while playing RW.

Bozobub

Quote from: Madman666 on January 08, 2018, 11:14:35 AM
Thanks for your time sharing the links, will be quite interesting reading) And yeah, I am in no way neither a pro, nor masochist, so I'll stick with something with user interface other than black terminal you input commands into. With my hardware, I think, I can spare a small percentage to be used by OS anyway. For now Ubuntu seems to be fast, stable and quite user friendly, save for some weird quirks and similarly weird ways to resolve them.
In that case, Mint may very well be your go-to distro.  You don't EVER have to use the Terminal (although it is there if you'd like to use it, of course) for example.  But Mint is based on Ubuntu anyway, so I don't think you're missing out terribly.
Thanks, belgord!

Madman666

Quote from: Bozobub on January 08, 2018, 03:28:58 PM
In that case, Mint may very well be your go-to distro.  You don't EVER have to use the Terminal (although it is there if you'd like to use it, of course) for example.  But Mint is based on Ubuntu anyway, so I don't think you're missing out terribly.

Well I don't have a terminal fright and don't immediately go into seizures, when I see a command promt, so I'll probably just sit on Ubuntu for some time (don't fix, whats not broken, I guess), but thanks for the advice. If something breaks or I'll have some time on my hands and curiosity wins me over, I'll check out Mint next, sounds interesting.

lux3y

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Quote from: Madman666 on January 05, 2018, 11:31:37 AM
Quote from: SpaceDorf on January 05, 2018, 09:33:43 AM
As to mod related greed the number of Mods where Rimworld kicks the bucket seems to be around 300-330 mods ..

Also the Number of Folders in the Modfolder has nearly the same effect on the loading time of rimworld as has the Number of activated mods.

Thanks for the info. I won't be anywhere near 300+ anytime soon, so thats a relief. I am actually really surprised how good RW runs on Linux, except for weird inability to detect and load modded mp3 sounds. Things like map generation with 100+ mods happen like 2 times faster, using Reroll Map now is pure bliss. Not to mention that it really doesn't crash which is extremely nice.

Although I do get one more weird bug - Toggling roof visibility shows it in bright purple color instead of usual green for thin roofs and dark green for thick ones. Probably isn't anything relates to OS, I think, just some mods conflicting.


Modded mp3 sounds? Maybe try converting them to .ogg, P-music and the default rimworld music is also in .ogg, i run custom music mod and had to do this for my songs aswell because none of them would play in .mp3, i guess rimworld simply doesnt support it at all so have to just convert them, but now it is working just perfect.
https://www.freac.org - This free audio converter lets u do that, its the one i used aswell. Might solve ur problem there.

Madman666

Quote from: lux3y on January 08, 2018, 05:10:33 PM
Modded mp3 sounds? Maybe try converting them to .ogg, P-music and the default rimworld music is also in .ogg, i run custom music mod and had to do this for my songs aswell because none of them would play in .mp3, i guess rimworld simply doesnt support it at all so have to just convert them, but now it is working just perfect.
https://www.freac.org - This free audio converter lets u do that, its the one i used aswell. Might solve ur problem there.

Thats a bit late as I already done that via Format factory on Windows, but thanks anyway:)

Canute

I just would ask, you are the only one who got trouble with these .mp3 at Rimworld under linux.
Maybe you should name these mods so other linux user could try them out.

Madman666

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Hmm. Today my RW actually managed to die silently twice even on Linux (once on Ubuntu and once on Mint which I decided to try out after reading a bit about). Nothing like errors or any kind crash logs either. I guess its some mod breaking something essential, but now I don't even know where to start searching for a culprit, since there is no crashlog.

Quote from: Canute on January 09, 2018, 03:49:01 AM
I just would ask, you are the only one who got trouble with these .mp3 at Rimworld under linux.
Maybe you should name these mods so other linux user could try them out.

No prob, my modlist's here: https://pastebin.com/KV1mD9i3 with all the titles links and etc. It works perfectly fine on Windows (aside from memory leaks causing crashes of course), so I really don't think its a mod related bug with mp3s. Most likely it has something to do with mp3 codecs, drivers or some other shenanigans, I didn't do or didn't know I need to do on Ubuntu.

Harry_Dicks

Quote from: Madman666 on January 09, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
Hmm. Today my RW actually managed to die silently twice even on Linux (once on Ubuntu and once on Mint which I decided to try out after reading a bit about). Nothing like errors or any kind crash logs either. I guess its some mod breaking something essential, but now I don't even know where to start searching for a culprit, since there is no crashlog.

Quote from: Canute on January 09, 2018, 03:49:01 AM
I just would ask, you are the only one who got trouble with these .mp3 at Rimworld under linux.
Maybe you should name these mods so other linux user could try them out.

No prob, my modlist's here: https://pastebin.com/KV1mD9i3 with all the titles links and etc. It works perfectly fine on Windows (aside from memory leaks causing crashes of course), so I really don't think its a mod related bug with mp3s. Most likely it has something to do with mp3 codecs, drivers or some other shenanigans, I didn't do or didn't know I need to do on Ubuntu.

Good luck! I'm somehow intrigued to keep reading these posts, to see how Linux is coming along for you ::)

Madman666

Quote from: Harry_Dicks on January 09, 2018, 04:57:57 PM
Good luck! I'm somehow intrigued to keep reading these posts, to see how Linux is coming along for you ::)

Thanks)) Linux itself coming quite fine) I like it. I won't be completely switching to it of course, but will keep Mint for RW for sure. I just hope I'll eventually find what the hell is wrong with my modlist that causes crashes even on 64 bit version...)

notfood

Check /tmp/rimworld.log for any weird crashes

Madman666

Quote from: notfood on January 10, 2018, 09:53:11 PM
Check /tmp/rimworld.log for any weird crashes

There is no such file anywhere :( Search didn't find anything either.