Solar flare AND lunar Eclipse?

Started by Cassey, April 21, 2015, 12:56:43 PM

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Cassey

Ah... wouldn't the moon be blocking the radiation from the solar flare?  Fine with either happening, but both at the same time?   Perhaps we need partial eclipses where solar panels get a reduced amount of light, but not 100% shutdown.  In fact, even with fulls, that would be the case most of the time unless the moon is a LOT larger than ours or the sun is a lot farther away (which would be unlikely, given the normal temperatures on the planet.)

Thoughts?

EscapeZeppelin

Depends on the size of the moon, the size of the flare, and the size of the planet's magnetic field. Likely the moon is small, the flare huge, the magnetic field large enough that it's spreading well beyond the small shadow cast by the moon. And the energy of the flare will spread along the planet's magnetic fields once it hits.

Yes the moon would shield a bit but still having your electronics fried is reasonable.

milon

Also, it's not Earth, so it's still totally possible.  Could be a binary system, for example.  One sun blocked by a moon, and one going solar flare.

Headshotkill

I remember this exact same thread from over a year ago, in the end everyone just accepted it for what it was.

Kegereneku

If that moon have a magnetic field it could either protect you or actually redirect the flow on you.
At least be happy you aren't living on the moon of a Giant Gas planet or you might be inside it's radiation belt.
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Maybe the moon really is made of green cheese and it doesn't block radiation at all.

Nasikabatrachus

In order to reach the planet, a solar flare (or, I guess, a coronal mass ejection associated with a solar flare) would have to travel to a point in its orbit which is actually ahead of the planet, wouldn't it? In the eart-sun system a CME takes a couple of days to reach earth's orbit. So it's entirely possible that there would be an eclipse and a solar flare/CME event affecting a planet at the same time. If anything, the moon's shielding effect, if any, would be greatest a quarter cycle before or after an eclipse, depending on which way the moon orbits around the planet.

It would actually be nice if there were a way to predict solar flare events. Something to use a telescope for besides Joy that would use the research skill for something ongoing.

ascdren

Quote from: Nasikabatrachus on April 21, 2015, 08:25:14 PM

It would actually be nice if there were a way to predict solar flare events. Something to use a telescope for besides Joy that would use the research skill for something ongoing.

I see many blind researchers in your future

Goo Poni

Quote from: ascdren on April 22, 2015, 03:46:25 AM
Quote from: Nasikabatrachus on April 21, 2015, 08:25:14 PM

It would actually be nice if there were a way to predict solar flare events. Something to use a telescope for besides Joy that would use the research skill for something ongoing.

I see many blind researchers in your future

If I recall correctly, there are special lenses, solar filters, that are used to look at Sol, filtering out the normally blinding light and actually rendering it possible to view all the little details on the raging surface. If such a thing was ever implemented, I'd like to see solar events be things that your colonists can see happening and then allow prediction. "Your colonists have found three moons in the sky above this Rimworld. With further study, your colonists have predicted that two of these moons will cause regular eclipses approximately 3 weeks and 6 days apart, respectively." "A colonist has witnessed a solar flare (+mood buff) and informed the rest of the colony of the impending electronic interference. It is expected to arrive in 'insert-hours-here'." "A colonist has discovered that one of this Rimworld's moons to be the cause of the crop blights. They have estimated that crop blights will occur roughly 'insert-days-here' apart."

Mikhail Reign

Shouldn't we just know when an eclipse is coming? I mean we can predict them thousands of years before they happen, and have been able to for thousands of years. Sure its a new planet, but if my guys can figure out how to make cryopods and geothermal generators, you figure they would be able to do something that the ancient Greeks had down?

Regret

Quote from: Mikhail Reign on April 22, 2015, 10:29:37 AM
Shouldn't we just know when an eclipse is coming? I mean we can predict them thousands of years before they happen, and have been able to for thousands of years. Sure its a new planet, but if my guys can figure out how to make cryopods and geothermal generators, you figure they would be able to do something that the ancient Greeks had down?
I'll take your word for it once you have done the calculations yourself.

Also, just because the ancient greeks were less technologically advanced does not mean they were dumber. I'd wager your average ancient greek voter had a greater chance of calculating eclipses than your average current voter.

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