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Random raider deaths are pissing me off
« on: December 04, 2018, 07:00:13 PM »

So what exactly causes raiders to die when I beat them up with fists?

Besides the obvious causes of death that would kill anyone of course (metabolism or consciousness to zero, loss of a vital body part, fatal disease, etc).
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Re: Random raider deaths are pissing me off
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 10:02:46 PM »

Game balance.
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I never got how pawns in the game could have such insanely bad reactions to such mundane things.
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Re: Random raider deaths are pissing me off
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2018, 12:49:49 PM »

I was asking what, not why.

I know that it's game balance :P

I'm just asking what exactly triggers it, and at what levels.
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Re: Random raider deaths are pissing me off
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 12:54:41 AM »

I was asking what, not why.

I know that it's game balance :P

I'm just asking what exactly triggers it, and at what levels.

Ah, sorry. A random roll. Something like 2/3 or 3/4ths of all raiders just die, no matter what, when they go down. It's in the code. It does not depend on level or storyteller, at least from what I've seen written in these forums.
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Re: Random raider deaths are pissing me off
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2018, 02:22:54 AM »

I was asking what, not why.

I know that it's game balance :P

I'm just asking what exactly triggers it, and at what levels.

Ah, sorry. A random roll. Something like 2/3 or 3/4ths of all raiders just die, no matter what, when they go down. It's in the code. It does not depend on level or storyteller, at least from what I've seen written in these forums.

Thanks, this is exactly what I wanted to know.  Do you happen to have a citation?
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Re: Random raider deaths are pissing me off
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2018, 03:15:02 AM »

If you would read the description of the mod notfood linked :
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In vanilla RimWorld, human-like pawns that are not part of your colony have a chance to instantly die when downed. Animals have a 50% chance to die when downed.
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Re: Random raider deaths are pissing me off
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2018, 08:24:44 AM »

I was asking what, not why.

I know that it's game balance :P

I'm just asking what exactly triggers it, and at what levels.

Ah, sorry. A random roll. Something like 2/3 or 3/4ths of all raiders just die, no matter what, when they go down. It's in the code. It does not depend on level or storyteller, at least from what I've seen written in these forums.

Thanks, this is exactly what I wanted to know.  Do you happen to have a citation?

Not a direct one, but it was said on this forum as that's basically the only place I get information on the game. It was during the beta when they were changing the values and trying different ones. I don't know for sure if it was Tynan himself who said it but it was an official thing.

Also, IIRC someone found it in the decompiled source code.
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Re: Random raider deaths are pissing me off
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2018, 10:42:32 AM »

Does anyone, perhaps a developer, happen to know the default odds and/or the curves used by the storytellers?
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