There's cannibalism but why not rape (as a form of recreation)

Started by Liwet, March 16, 2020, 11:25:04 AM

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Liwet

So someone from a faction I'm at war with crash landed near my base.  She's not worth recruiting and my lone colonist is busy doing other things so I'm just going to let her die.  It would be nice if I could top off my colonist's recreation by raping her in lieu of playing horseshoes again.  It can also be an activity for Wardens to do in colonies that keep multiple prisoners.

I know this is really awful and I wouldn't suggest it if this game was all rainbows and sunshine but, I mean, there's cannibalism, organ harvesting, and slave labor in this game so why not rape?

LWM

It's not like cannibalism is a daily threat to a large part of our population or anything.

Heck, there aren't too many people who have actually had a family member eaten, so that's unlikely to be directly horrifying, whereas the number of ppl in-game rape could actually trigger PTSD?  So many...

It's also REALLY hard to put rape into either a fictional book or a computer game, and handle it in an actually positive way.

Anyway, if you want to go down that horrifying rabbithole, RimJobWorld is for you, and I hope randy drops flaming death on all your colonists.

thethoam


TrashMan

Quote from: LWM on March 16, 2020, 11:30:10 AM
Anyway, if you want to go down that horrifying rabbithole, RimJobWorld is for you, and I hope randy drops flaming death on all your colonists.

Horrifying rabbithole? Standing on a high horse much?

I'm running an excellent 5 start brothel using prisoners from failed raids. I do relesae the mafter some time (too crowded) or even recruit some.
Half the factions on the map are my buddies/allies (trough d***, unity!)
My base is better defended than the Emperors Palace and the starship engine has 5 days left to go.

Randy is on my side.

LWM

Quote from: TrashMan on March 18, 2020, 07:40:28 AM
Quote from: LWM on March 16, 2020, 11:30:10 AM
Anyway, if you want to go down that horrifying rabbithole, RimJobWorld is for you, and I hope randy drops flaming death on all your colonists.

Horrifying rabbithole? Standing on a high horse much?

I think calling state sanctioned rape horrifying doesn't require more than sitting on a low guinea pig.  Or next to, even  8)

Just keep it in game  ;)

RicRider

My theory is let's keep the game fun for the majority of people and you psychopaths can find that mod and use it if you like.
##Coding Scrub##

LWM

Quote from: Gblitzz on March 20, 2020, 03:17:35 AM
I don't think any game would try this. It's going to be like porn or something. I mean even if it's not going to be shown literally, the imagination of the players would wander. That's just me.

One of the earliest (commercially available) games had a 4-bit (2-bit?  certainly not 8-bit) cowboy rape a racist depiction of a native american. People are **s****s.  And they don't often think about what they're actually doing when they write code.  Or maybe they did, not sure which is worse.


TrashMan

Quote from: RicRider on March 21, 2020, 07:36:49 AM
My theory is let's keep the game fun for the majority of people and you psychopaths can find that mod and use it if you like.
Psychopaths?

Murder is OK
Torture is OK
Haresting organs is OK
Creating drug addicts is OK

But we can't have sex..nope, no. Worst thing in the history of forever.

It never ceaes to amaze me just how desperate some people are to try and claim the unexisting moral high ground and huw utterly fu*** up their moral compass and priorites are.

RicRider

Dear TrashMan,

I'm absolutely horrified that you would equate sex with rape. Please seek help immediately!

Signed,

Concerned Moral High Groundist
##Coding Scrub##

LWM

hehehe.

But I would think he was referring to, oh, US TV ratings.

Or, heck, computer game ratings.  Steal cars, run over people, kill innocent bystanders by the dozens (and heck, get bonus points for doing that sort of thing), go for it.  Have a blurred out sex scene in disabled code?  Forced to release an update for that.

RicRider

I'm sure he got triggered by the word psychopath.

But I did not say anything wrong. There's 5% of humanity that doesn't feel any emotions at all when they are doing things the rest of us find horrific.

What he is advocating is not the same as the other things that are already in the game. Organ harvesting, murder, cannibalism... it's all optional. What he is advocating is a mechanic whereby pawns will automatically 'entertain' themselves on prisoners. Even if you made it so only the psychopaths do this, it would be a horrifically bad game design choice and would put an instant 18+ rating on your game and may even have it blacklisted on many sites.

My answer will always be the same - go play Second Life or find that mod.
##Coding Scrub##

LWM

Quote from: RicRider on March 23, 2020, 11:03:15 AM
it's all optional.

Oh dear gods, I hadn't even considered that, but you're right - it's a huge difference.

unfaventia

Created an account literally to add my two cents on this 'idea'. We already have sex in the game, but that's in an entirely different context between two consenting partners/pawns. So yeah, this game isn't already the height of purity with sex, cannabalism, slavery, etc.

But adding in rape for recreation is a whole nother step. And from the personal perspective of a rape survivor I'm honestly uncomfortable and a little horrified, even if it's in the context of a game.

ProfZelonka

Quote from: unfaventia on March 23, 2020, 02:41:32 PM
Created an account literally to add my two cents on this 'idea'. We already have sex in the game, but that's in an entirely different context between two consenting partners/pawns. So yeah, this game isn't already the height of purity with sex, cannabalism, slavery, etc.

But adding in rape for recreation is a whole nother step. And from the personal perspective of a rape survivor I'm honestly uncomfortable and a little horrified, even if it's in the context of a game.
I'm with newbie.

There's no experience that goes with such an addition. But there is already a mod that allows this (and more worse things) if you must have rape in your game.

TrashMan

Quote from: RicRider on March 23, 2020, 09:54:43 AM
Dear TrashMan,

I'm absolutely horrified that you would equate sex with rape. Please seek help immediately!

Signed,

Concerned Moral High Groundist

rape is sex, when you get down to it. A short discomfort without any lasting physical consequences. And mental consequences depend exclusively on your mind.

Also, I was equating rape with murder, torture and other great crimes.