[1.3.3200] Leader speech causing cooldown issues

[glass zebra]

There are 2 ways to trigger a leader speech and cooldowns: directly from the menu of the pawn or from a gathering spot.
1. If triggered from the pawn: All of the leader abilities go on a 10 days cooldown AND also the throne speech.
2. If triggered from a social spot: None of the leader abilities will go on cooldown BUT the throne speech does. The social spot will then show a 20 days cooldown for a dimishing reduced quality, but it's still usable. The ability on the pawn will just show like unused.
(3.) If you use a throne speech (the royal one): This is of course not a leader speech but has the same triggering as 2.
If you use the leader speech from any of the menus after using it from a social spot, you will get the ritual screen with reduces effect for recent performance.

Screenshots:
- 20 days dimnishing effect after any speech: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1841408985877980983/3FC76E02BB381952A958AD5A8A2390DE032DCD3C/
- 20 days dimnishing effect after using leader ability on pawn AND showing 10 days cooldown too: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1841408985877957977/581FE971FC7E919AE3F6F0861378B26E01132271/
- reduced effect from recent any speech speech: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1841408985877943039/B37EB6C78DE6BE333944E24349B1638C5BA6775B/

I would not expect the leader speech nor the throne speech to have any interaction at all, nor would I expect using the leader speech from the table to have an entirely different cooldown mechanic (20days recent performance reduction vs. 10days hard cooldown) and not locking any the leader abilites.


In addition to this, the dev mode cooldown reset on the pawn's leader skills does not remove the 10 day hard cd on the social spot.

Both DLCs, no mods used.

[Pheanox]

Thanks for the bug report, i've confirmed the case of 1 and 2 for leader speeches in 1.3.3235.  I'm unsure what you mean by the noble speech though.  The way you wrote this makes it sound like you are actively activating a throne speech.  Are you referring to the throne speeches that they can do at random?  Since I'm an internal testing sometimes its hard to keep track of features that were axed and the ones that made it into the game, sorry.

[glass zebra]

Royals get an active ability as of rank Preator to initiate a throne speech which then goes to cooldown for 20 days (cooldown gets lower on higher ranks). Activating that ability seems to trigger the leader speech cooldown and vice versa.
I hope this provides a useful explanation.

[Pheanox]

Yeah I don't know how I missed it, it was literally on the pawn I made a baroness.  This is what I get for testing in the morning.

[glass zebra]

It's fine. Some of these issues I reported were rather confusing in interaction and I tried to write it as clearly as possible but I wrote all of these issues down in several hours of testing and doing screenshots and likely the quality suffered.
Always feel free to ask for clarification.

[Pheanox]

I just tested the throne speech and saw no interaction between it and the leader speech.  It didn't change cool downs or cause the 'recent used ritual' debuff either. I'm testing in the unstable branch 1.3.3235.  Would you mind hopping onto unstable in steam (if you have it) and testing to see if you can verify the same thing?  That one may already be fixed.

[glass zebra]

Sure I can do this, but I can not find it in the steam beta branch. Do I need a code?

[Pheanox]

No, it should be visible to everyone, labeled "Unstable - Public testing".  If you can't find it, that's fine. I can still report the first two points.

[glass zebra]

Yeah I was just looking for the number and not the word.. will test now.

[Pheanox]

Actually I got it now also, I'll be reporting all these bugs.  Thanks for your help though and clarifications.  I'll get these all into the devs.