Solar panel roofs and manual roof construction

JayNic · August 31, 2014, 02:29:36 AM

Hey all. The title is pretty self explanatory. But basically: the ability to specify the construction of solar panels on various roofs. It'll free up ground space as well as making sense (it seems to be the way that solar panels are used today for localized use.

Related to roofs: I personally find the "create no roof region / remove no roof region" system pretty - (to be honest) - pointless. Seems like it makes logical sense to make us build roofs ourselves like we build the rest of a structure. We build walls, floors, but we have to manage some hokey zones for roofs.

ps Loving the progress. Alpha 6 got me back in after passing over a couple alphas. Great work!

mickel · August 31, 2014, 10:04:10 AM

As long as we're building roofs ourselves, let's have different materials. We have wood, log, stone and metal walls, so we could start with those for roofs as well.

Oh, and different thickness of the roofs would be lovely. Something that will stand up to mortar fire, please.

While we're at it, solar panels on the roof was a capital idea. Love it. Maybe skylights to let in some light and air?

AbelGregson · November 04, 2014, 01:36:57 AM

Quote from: JayNic on August 31, 2014, 02:29:36 AM
Hey all. The title is pretty self explanatory. But basically: the ability to specify the construction of solar panels on various roofs. It'll free up ground space as well as making sense (it seems to be the way that solar power system are used today for localized use.

Related to roofs: I personally find the "create no roof region / remove no roof region" system pretty - (to be honest) - pointless. Seems like it makes logical sense to make us build roofs ourselves like we build the rest of a structure. We build walls, floors, but we have to manage some hokey zones for roofs.

ps Loving the progress. Alpha 6 got me back in after passing over a couple alphas. Great work!

Congratulations for awesome work..I hope you can share some pics as it seems there is plenty to learn from you..

BinaryBlackhole · November 06, 2014, 12:28:59 AM

you should have to research light solar panels first.

englert123 · January 29, 2015, 06:24:39 AM

If you are getting to install a solar panel on your roof , then it will be better if it is metal roof because metal roof is better for solar panel installation and a metal roof is the perfect platform for photovoltaic solar collection systems. There�s even a metal roofing innovation called a Solar Sandwich.

inman30 · January 30, 2015, 05:08:03 AM

Not a bad idea.

You should be able to build roofs etc. but against mortar fire? That would have to be pretty thick. Maybe against incendiary but... Anyways only when you dig into mountains. Would your house stand up to a mortar shot? No, it would blow up half of the house.

NoImageAvailable · January 30, 2015, 08:34:28 AM

Quote from: inman30 on January 30, 2015, 05:08:03 AM
Not a bad idea. You should be able to build roofs etc. but against mortar fire? That would have to be pretty thick. Maybe against incendiary but... Anyways only when you dig into mountains. Would your house stand up to a mortar shot? No, it would blow up half of the house.

A mortar would put a decent hole into the roof or maybe knock down a section of wall, but half the house? Certainly not with any modern regular size construction. The actual explosion is only in a relatively small radius, the big killer with military explosives is shrapnel. It is certainly not unfeasible to build some kind of concrete pillbox style structure that could absorb most of the blow.

inman30 · January 30, 2015, 10:43:42 AM

Perhaps, it just depends on how big the house is... But yes shrapnel is dangerous. Germans would shoot trees with explosive rounds strewing stuff everywhere killing people. But yeah i want to see more pillboxes etc in rimworld. (note) Also mainly is just about what type of mortar shell it is.. If it's a 40 mm (grenade launcher) round then yeah it wouldn't do a lot of damage but a 120 he? yeah it would do a bit more then that...

NoImageAvailable · January 30, 2015, 11:03:39 AM

Quote from: inman30 on January 30, 2015, 10:43:42 AM
Perhaps, it just depends on how big the house is... But yes shrapnel is dangerous. Germans would shoot trees with explosive rounds strewing stuff everywhere killing people. But yeah i want to see more pillboxes etc in rimworld. (note) Also mainly is just about what type of mortar shell it is.. If it's a 40 mm (grenade launcher) round then yeah it wouldn't do a lot of damage but a 120 he? yeah it would do a bit more then that...

Here's a video showing mortar strikes in Syria. Note how the first shell directly strikes the building and just how little damage it does to the actual structure. In Rimworld terms that would be maybe one or two sections of wall. People always think artillery causes huge explosions because of Hollywood nonsense and big scary dustclouds, but real artillery explosions aren't that dangerous. The shrapnel they send flying is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca9HXAoV7Zw

GlassDeviant · January 30, 2015, 03:14:55 PM

Quote from: englert123 on January 29, 2015, 06:24:39 AM
If you are getting to install a solar panel on your roof , then it will be better if it is metal roof because metal roof is better for solar panel installation and a metal roof is the perfect platform for photovoltaic solar collection systems. There�s even a metal roofing innovation called a Solar Sandwich.

Actually no, composite shingles are better overall for durability, versatility and price. Steel is costly, noisy (rain on a metal roof is beyond irritating and sound deadening materials raise the cost), will dent if you get bad hailstorms, will warp in areas with extreme temperature shifts, are expensive to replace when damaged because they are done in large sheets. That said, it's all irrelevant for Rimworld so far as all wall materials are treated the same (iirc) so why would roofs be different?

inman30 · January 30, 2015, 06:07:23 PM

Anyways to answer you.. It all depends on how sturdy the house is, the type of shell and what the house is made of. What are those houses made out of in Syria? brick? and I'm watching it and i can see that like. When it hit it just hit the side and it came loose and fell with the mortar and the wall like i said. is i'm assuming some kind of brick broke it's fall and it just sort of exploded on the outside and pushed the rock in. If it was a softer material say wood... Well. Anyways This is completely Irrelevant. The roof should be able to stop mortar shots. Mountains stop them completely and if it's just a metal roof or wood roof it goes through.