"8 chan is an extremist group"

[Viperlol]

So has anyone heard the "journalist" who went on to say that "8chan is an extremist group". If so what was your reaction? if you have not seen it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnY17pgYwg
Pic related, my reaction.

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[Noobshock]

In this day and age anything that doesn't roll over and conform to rampant political correctness is more or less automatically labeled "extremist", to the point where most of our parents and grandparents by today's standards would have been considered "extremist" in some way shape or form, which most of us realize is a ridiculous proposition.

If the people pushing this "social justice" crap were really concerned about "misogyny", I'd like to see them tackle the rap/hiphop subculture for starters, or hell, good old porn. Of course they can't/won't do that because they don't want to anger other "protected minority" groups, such as the crazy neo-feminists who claim porn is "empowering" (lol). So they go after the pasty white nerds who by and large struggle to even get laid in the first place and add the evil misogyny accusation on top of their preexisting sexual misery.

Pathetic, tbh. They absolutely deserve all the backlash they're getting (they call it "bullying" when they've been spending huge amounts of time and resources trying to shove political agendas in videogame journalism).

[Justin C]

The internet is full of terrible journalists who write shitty articles. Just don't pay attention to them.

Don't share them just because they're awful. That's what they want.

[Minus]

It's nice to see so many women are joining the male dominated area, of being a huge piece of ****. Most terrible people I see these days spreading hate are women. And they are singlehandedly hurting feminism so badly! I've heard people use "feminist" as an offensive term even!

Such crazy times. But they say that it's the darkest before the dawn or something. Once these crazies are weeded out, equality can finally flurish. This is only a temporary problem.

Oh and thanks lots of sharing this! Shocked I did not find out sooner.

[Coenmcj]

I've had too many friends join the reddit / chan communities and come out as scum. So I can see where the journalist is seriously exaggerating from.

It's nice to see so many women are joining the male dominated area, of being a huge piece of ****. Most terrible people I see these days spreading hate are women. And they are singlehandedly hurting feminism so badly! I've heard people use "feminist" as an offensive term even!

Such crazy times. But they say that it's the darkest before the dawn or something. Once these crazies are weeded out, equality can finally flurish. This is only a temporary problem.

Oh and thanks lots of sharing this! Shocked I did not find out sooner.

In my part of Australia, Feminism is relatable to Fascism. Women in our area use it as an excuse to get an upper edge in any argument or discussion, using their "Plight" as a way to guilt trip people into seeing their way, I respect that those who started feminism wanted equality, but unfortunately the loud voices always drown out those who have good intentions.

[spacemarine658]

thats why I am an egalterinist I believe all should be treated as equal under the law.

[Kagemusha]

Egalitarianism is certainly the better -ism to be pursuing.
Being an egalitarian is, in my opinion, the only real way forward.

Off-topic but that's kinda the point I suppose.

On topic I would agree with Justin C in saying that the internet is full of terrible journalism and sometimes the best tactic is to simply ignore them. Then again having a discussion about their merits or demerits might be more constructive...

I'm at work so I can't watch the video (<_<) but reading some commentary in other places I'd have to say that it's probably typical biased 'journalism' that might actually have a point somewhere but gets lost in name calling.

Internet users and internet groups, particularly niche groups, tend to be very problematic in many ways. Anonymity leads to behaviour that would be utterly unacceptable (or maybe that's my bias that I feel it should be unacceptable) in 'polite society'. Whatever polite society is meant to be.

These behaviours become more problematic when they are conditioning peoples standards of what is and what isn't acceptable. I personally think the decline in compassion, morality, and accountability are a symptom of this type of anonymous behaviour  transferring to the 'real world'.

I'm not expert. Didn't even watch the video. But, people on the internet can be right tossers. And more and more that behaviour is translating to more tossers in the real world. Whether they are linked or not is very questionable. More likely than not it's just the real world tossers getting online rather than the other way around.

[Mathenaut]

"Too extreme for 4chan" is on a banner for 8chan.

That just about spells it out.

[Noobshock]

That's just them using a journalists' line as a joke.

8chan is just 4chan moved to a different place after Gawker lobbying literally bought moot and 4chan mods openly started fighting for the SJW side (or got removed).

Personally I can't help but sympathize with GG no matter how over the top or abusive it might seem to some, because it is a reaction to people trying to inject political agendas in videogames and videogame "journalism" for quite a while now. Way too many "game journalism" sites at this point have turned into pure clickbait crap ranting on about how Patricia Hernandez got raped in GTA5 or something like that. It's downright ridiculous. Gamergate was bound to happen, and those pseudo-journalists were bound to be tar and feathered at some point.

"Gamers" are absolutely right to not want their hobby to become a cesspool of particularly obnoxious political activism.

[Morrigi]

That's just them using a journalists' line as a joke.

8chan is just 4chan moved to a different place after Gawker lobbying literally bought moot and 4chan mods openly started fighting for the SJW side (or got removed).

Personally I can't help but sympathize with GG no matter how over the top or abusive it might seem to some, because it is a reaction to people trying to inject political agendas in videogames and videogame "journalism" for quite a while now. Way too many "game journalism" sites at this point have turned into pure clickbait crap ranting on about how Patricia Hernandez got raped in GTA5 or something like that. It's downright ridiculous. Gamergate was bound to happen, and those pseudo-journalists were bound to be tar and feathered at some point.

"Gamers" are absolutely right to not want their hobby to become a cesspool of particularly obnoxious political activism.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

[Tynan]

Thank you for providing me an opportunity to use this joke, it is one of my favorites

[Nasikabatrachus]

"Feminism is relatable to fascism"
"Feminists aggravate nerds' pre-existing sexual misery [not getting laid] by talking about sexism"
"The backlash is entirely deserved"

Meanwhile, on 8chan, the site with boards for pedophiles because "free speech".

Stuff like this is a good example of why, even though video games are fun to socialize over, it's a terrible thing to actually rally around as some kind of identity. The huge amount of time and resources gamergate has put into pushing their reactionary political agenda onto video game reviewing is astonishing. "The hobby" is now a cesspool of particularly bigoted, obnoxious keyboard wars waged by distinctly unpleasant right wingers, and it's incredibly alienating.

[Evelyn]

If this forum had a proper non-stupid-looking eyeroll emote I assure you I'd respond with that, but for lack of the aforementioned I suppose I'll have to write out a proper reply.

8chan's boards are user-created and anything that breaks laws tends to get deleted. It's the same tired old trope of "Hurr hurr 4chan is all hackers and pedofiles haven't u herd of anonymuz hurr hurr" inanely spouted by people who have absolutely no clue what they're talking about.

No offense.

[RayvenQ]

"Feminism is relatable to fascism"
"Feminists aggravate nerds' pre-existing sexual misery [not getting laid] by talking about sexism"
"The backlash is entirely deserved"

Meanwhile, on 8chan, the site with boards for pedophiles because "free speech".

Stuff like this is a good example of why, even though video games are fun to socialize over, it's a terrible thing to actually rally around as some kind of identity. The huge amount of time and resources gamergate has put into pushing their reactionary political agenda onto video game reviewing is astonishing. "The hobby" is now a cesspool of particularly bigoted, obnoxious keyboard wars waged by distinctly unpleasant right wingers, and it's incredibly alienating.

Sorry to say this, and don't take this as a personal attack, but it sounds like you've been drinking the "Listen and Believe" kool aid. Yes, both sides have a few people who claim that side as their own, who do nothing but harass and antagonise to stir up trouble, but, from a neutral perspective, that happens a lot more on the AGG side than it does the GG, even worse, the figureheads who everyone rally around, not only encourage it but also participate in it. When someone on the AGG side is doxxed, GG'ers tend to call them out on it. When GG'ers get doxxed, AGG'ers either ignore it or worse, dismiss it. Several of the AGG figureheads have used a trans persons suicide, that was not related to GG at all, as "proof" that GG is killing people.

Just for the record, I think that bullying, harassing and doxxing of ANYONE for ANY reason, is unacceptable and I've thrown away friends who have done that several times.

I've been a gamer all my life, yes I identify as a Gamer, Gender, Sexuality, Race, Beliefs, Nationality, none of that matters to me, all that matters to me is your skill at the game, Gaming and being a Gamer has given me access to a broad range of entertainment and an even broader range of friends, but to be called a "misogynistic neckbeard" for supporting GamerGates core ideals (Corruption/Ethics in Videogame Journalism) as a smokescreen to distract from the very real issue of collusion between developers and video game "journalists" (Funny how they label themselves that until they're called on  to use journalism standards of ethics, then they're just "bloggers" and "opinion writers") is absoloutely infuriatating. Especially given my history where not only do i not care about gender, but very many of my gaming friends are female, hell, in the late 2000's I ran with an entirely all girl Mechwarrior Clan and I can honestly say it was the best time I've ever had in gaming.

I support GamerGate's core ideals of Ethics in videogame journalism and development.
I support Women in the making and playing of Videogames. (I also want more diverse main characters, as long as they're well developed and written and not just shoehorned in as a weak and pathetic attemptto be "inclusive")
I'm absoloutely 100% against harassment or bullying in any form towards anyone.

So what am I?

Hell, no matter who you are, no matter your personal beliefs, opinions etc etc, I'll still game with them, as long as nobody brings their politics or agendas into the game, I'll play with anyone.

[Nasikabatrachus]

Sorry to say this, and don't take this as a personal attack, but it sounds like you've been drinking the "Listen and Believe" kool aid.

"Don't take this as a personal attack, but it sounds like you're a cult member" lmao.

Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you think "listen and believe" refers to in the context Sarkeesian presented it, without looking it up or searching for some definition? I literally never heard of it until GamerGate made it The Sum of All Evil. Furthermore, please explain what it has to do with ethics in video games journalism. Just because of this post, I'm going to watch her talk right now so I know what this is even about.